Why haven't you learned to draw your own waifu yet?

Why haven't you learned to draw your own waifu yet?

Nigga where are the guidelines?

Not everyone is born with talent

I can't draw a straight line with a ruler.

I first ruin other girls, and when I get good I'll draw her.

>Not everyone is born with talent
Nobody is born with talent
You fucking make it into your nature by doing it every day.

Dont make fucking excuses because you dont want to practice for 10 minutes every day.

I'm 28 years old

Is it too late to learn how to draw?

Its never too late.
You should ask yourself, are you willing to do it every day?

Yes, actually.

The absolute latest for getting good is 13. After that you might as well not even bother unless you've got some love of the art thing going on because you will never produce anything of actual value.

Don't let that dissuade you from trying, but keep your expectations low because only people with truly innate talent manage to get good even after starting at the age of 15.

Because I can't find proper lineart or tutorial to draw my specific waifu

>true innate talent

toppest of keks

i think it's time you grew out of Disney movies

I think its time you stopped procrastinating and started imitating your peers because you're not getting anywhere giving up all the time.

>everyone can do it if they work hard!

>just believe in yourself XD
Reddit is that way

>he fell for the talent meme
Having talent is like having a sports car while everyone else has a beat up honda civic. You will get good faster if you have talent, but either way you won't get anywhere if you don't practice.

>truly innate talent
t. lazy fat cunt.

I've wondered that myself, though I'm not nearly as old as you. Is drawing ability even something that can be taught? It seems that some people are just born good at drawing like how some people are just born with the capacity to succeed at math. I've always been more of a math and science person but I'd love to learn how to draw anime qts if at all possible.

I can draw good as long as it takes forever, but what frustrates me is getting the perfect pose right. I have spent months sketching all kinds of rough poses and proportions for a single character, and when I finally choose one and start on the good draft, I see the imperfections in the overall scheme and restart all over, kinda like the webm here . My belief in progressing as an artist is to come up with some "unique" posture that isn't a blatant ripoff and works well with the artists's drawing style, coloring, and overall imagined expectations. It definitely can make people feel like giving up on drawing better, but practice is practice and mine starts with being able to create good poses on a whim.

>Doesn't understand human muscle memory
>Doesn't understand chunking
>Doesn't understand learning and discipline and imitation
>Likely reads TVTropes for cliches to laugh at with smug anime girls
It's like you never tried to create a habit of anything

I want to learn how to draw but only for the sake of making my own manga. What are some resources I can look to for this kind of specific education in paneling and information on the manga industry?

>drawing your own waifu
That's like marrying your own daughter, it's just not right.

/thread

You have clearly never worked with truly stupid people.

Most mangakas are self-taught on drawing techniques or adapt slowly to develop their preferred drawing style. There's no real education on this sort of career except for internship/assistant work under more professional artists, since that's the best way to pressure you into meeting expected deadlines on time and fulfilling everything that is expected for a target audience in mind.

T. Lazyfag who can't spend effort practicing so instead bitches about how they don't have the talent

This.
As someone who draws porn, I could never get hard off of my own drawings

It's never too late to learn how to draw. But you will need consistent effort and practice to get good at it. Starting early is good because it ingrains a habit at an age where shit doesn't really matter and you carry it through busy times in your life. But you can still get good just like how you can get fit. You just need to get over the 'simple' task of constant and consistent practice.

If you want to start, it's best not to take too much criticism during the early parts, because you need to enjoy the process and everyone starts off terrible. Most people are shitty as kids, but you need to make mistakes before you can improve and beating yourself for being a noob is discouraging and counter intuitive.

Literally ACTUAL MANGA.
You're not going to learn to do anything right unless you fucking imitate whats actually considered RIGHT

Fucking copy, Fucking imitate, Fucking absorb.

Just keep doing that and you'll start grasping techniques and ideas on how to improve.

Learn fucking anatomy from life
Learn techniques from artists
Discipline yourself and work on your shit.

Maybe not but it's literally logical.
Youre fucking born retarded
You learn by imitating shit around you.

The more your exercise your learning, the more you'll learn faster.

Stupid people literally didn't bother learning because their environments didnt encourage it.

You can do it, it'll just take a lot more effort than somebody who has an intuitive understanding of this stuff. While some people might just be able to "know" what would look good, you'll have to keep building yourself a mental bank through practice until you can commonly bring up themes that you know will work out for whatever you have in mind.

Manga are comics made by japanese, sold in japan.

you're not japanese and your stuff won't be sold in japan.

>anyone can do it if they work hard!

So user, where's the result of all your hard work?

>tfw too old to start learning how to draw

Screencapping this. When I get serialized I'll post this on Sup Forums and make fun of you. It might take a while so please stay alive for the next three years at the very least.

>implying
I discovered my talent when I was 11. Was kind of more into architecture during my teens so I didn't draw that much anime. Recently started practicing again and learning anatomy now. Both techniques and actually biology to understand muscle movements.

There are some talented people, and the untalented will never be able to catch up with them when they are both serious and both try their best.

However drawing your own waifu is definitely not a difficult task. Anyone can draw their own waifu if they have the time and body parts to devote to it.

Are these good for someone who has only drew an anime once when they were twelve?

That boku is not kawaii.

I guess I draw a bunch of cute vore pics and get commissions here and there.

Working on it. I'm just too depressed to keep up with daily practice, but maybe I'll make it one day.

I'd like to be able to create something of her that's worth sharing.

>Why haven't you learned to draw your own waifu yet?

Because this is about the limit of my drawing ability.

You seem pretty smug. Got any drawings you can drop?

I'm working on it. I'm thoroughly miserable by the end of each session but I'm still doing it so I'm either stupid or I'm going to get there eventually.

Anybody can trace and copy like a retard. good luck 'practicing' your creativity.

>Anybody can trace and copy like a retard
Yes, any they'll be making more fucking progress with their inner muscle memory than you, dipshit.

Not everybody in life can be modeled by your behaviourist ideals. Look at any professional or student group and within a matter of days you'll be able to separate people who can understand their given subject intuitively in less than an hour while others take easily twice or thrice the amount of time to become familiar with the exact same shit. Some people are simply slower than others, even when they try their hardest.

No, but please wait for me. I'll definitely prove you wrong.

What do you do once you can draw your own waifu?

Draw her sucking a million black cocks.

>AWWW YES
>FUCK YEAHHHH
>YESSSS- WAIT WHAT WHY

Wack it to her.

This

I already can.

Nothing because you'll still be a lazy fuck that's addicted to Sup Forums and video games.

Draw her in all the cute outfits and poses I can think of.

Maybe draw myself holding hands with her.

>Anybody can trace and copy like a retard.
Then what the fuck is your excuse to not practice you fucking moron?

I struggle with escapism enough as it is user. I should look for hobbies that at least involve being outside.

To quote Kirie-san from Barakamon Vol 13:

"There are artists who do all of this themselves. But those who can motivate others to help them out will go very far indeed."

If you want to draw for recognition and acceptance from others, be willing to make the leap first and learn from both errors and critiques.

>Some people are simply slower than others, even when they try their hardest.
It doesnt matter how hard you try. It matters how smart you go about learning.

Someone who's trying to learn composition and foreshortening and all the intricate detail are going to learn something completely different than the guy who learns by practicing drawing women in different poses.

Yeah, some people are going to be slower but if they can learn to talk and pick up a pencil and write like their peers, they can learn how to fucking draw.

You seem to constantly forget that you learnt how to use a computer because of your environment.

But I am doing it now.

Because I don't want to get ntr through the internet.

But I did

Get bored and quit drawing.
This happened to me after 4 months of non-stop practice.

why the fuck would I need to draw when I have plenty of readily available material to whack it to retardo?

I don't know if you guys are really pessimistic or if you just try to justify your own unwillingness to put in the large amount of time required to be proficient at drawing by acting as though it's an inherently unattainable goal unless you have "talent".

Because I guess it's easier to pretend that it's impossible instead of just admitting that you're a quitter.

Unless you are going to draw the pictures yourself, I don't see how you learning to draw enables the ntr.

Fucking hell.

>Get bored and quit drawing
This happened because you have no goals and desire.

I will someday

Wow, this genuinely made me feel bad.

I will show you the dark secret of figure drawing.
You somehow have to "see" the lines in the figure to make the frame. Some people make boxes, some people make sticks, but to me this is what I see in order to make an accurate frame of a person. I think I was taught this in drawing class but I don't think they actually taught it to us because we just had to do it, honestly don't think any art book has such guidelines I can see now. Figure drawing classes themselves just have you try and spot the curves of the figure and not fill in the details like actual nipples on tits. You either dedicate your life to art or not, as a hard lesson to all. Art University is also a waste of money.

If muscle memory was not even more of a meme then it is then there would be a lot more illustrators than 3D modelers by now.

I drew a person before and somehow years later at some airport I saw a person that looked just like the character I drew.

that's hot

>Moe character
>Suggestive outfit/pose
Ace taste my friend

I haven't drawn in over a year. I need to dust off my tablet some time.

And when did I fucking ask you to tell me the story of your life Jose? If you're just that useless then just say so.

Thanks for that, I'll give it a try.

>Look at any professional or student group and within a matter of days you'll be able to separate people who can understand their given subject intuitively in less than an hour while others take easily twice or thrice the amount of time to become familiar with the exact same shit.

Those exist but they are not as plenty as you think. Try read some biographies, you will see a pattern.

>Nobel price physic
>Started doing math around 8-10
>Sucessful mangaka
>Drew shit since 12.

Almost all talent people start shit at very young and never stop doing it.

Well, that's absolutely correct.

Looks like you're using that girl to summon Satan or something.

Actually thats fucking wrong you retard, you're looking at the gesture.

Simplifying it down into shapes is just the process of constructing it.

Figure drawing is to get you to understand the rhythm of the body and how to capture the gesture/flow of movement/arc of motion/line of action.

Creating art out of boxes will only make your art stiff, the idea is to make it warp and dynamic, exagerrated from actual life, so you can capture the energetic motion and fluidity of life itself.

Dark secret? Don't make me fucking laugh, this is childs play compared to dynamics and understanding actual motion.

Cause I can't draw for shit

Though I have been trying to get better recently by drawing at least one thing per day (which so far has been a mix of copying two artists I enjoy and what ever real life objects I can find laying around the house) as well as ever 2-3 days to some exercises with a tennis ball to try and improve finger strength/dexterity (born with week motor skills something called ataxia)
Don't think I will be able to ever draw great but I'll be satisfied if I can at least draw something and say
>"well its not complete shit"

Find the reason why you wanted to draw.
What is it you wanted from it? To create stories? A world? An idea?

Is there a lack of something you desire?

Many disgusting fetishes I love are really scarce, so that is something that fuels my desire to create and the passion to make it look good influences me to imitate and assimilate techniques into my own work.

I want to learn how to draw my waifu but I don't know where to start. I don't even think I have the time to practice.

If I want to learn how to start drawing well, should I start practicing with paper and pencil or on a digital tablet and Photoshop? Probably just on physical paper to begin with right?

Already own a pretty sizeable tablet for some other applications.

I should get around to reading that book

You should, it's very helpful when it comes to getting a grasp on capturing life.

>Many disgusting fetishes I love are really scarce
I know that feel. I could never understand how someone could draw something everyone else has drawn a million times already (kantai collection)

>Sucessful mangaka
>Drew shit since 12.
More like

>Successful mangaka
>Quit their office job or college because it was too stressful, then threw themselves into drawing doujins or making storyboards and scripts for a year or two while being jobless until they got published

I can into Inkscape, does that count?

I see no reason why you can't do both but concentrate on the medium you want to focus going forward.

What a fuckin asshole, I'd rape his mom

Highly recommend pencil and paper first. You need to build on your traditional skills before you can get the flow behind the tablet.

Of course, there's the warning that if you get too attached to traditional without starting on the tablet soon, you'll probably feel less inclined to.

You practice on anything you can.

Find out what you want to do and work towards it?

Want to draw faux-anime? Practice drawing anime and use digital art.

Faux manga? Study manga

Realism? Study photography and real people

Cartoons? Study cartoons

Imitate. Assimilate

And then when you have even the smallest grasp of it. Innovate.

it's unironically true.

Actually its fucking wrong.

You need to work SMART not HARD
If you work hard, you'll get burnt out.

You just need to be aware of what youre learning and aspiring for self-improvement and knowing what areas to improve upon.

Otherwise you're just burning yourself dry for no reason.

I really want to learn how to draw, where do I start to learn the proper way Sup Forums?

Because I can only imitate.
Even when creating applications, I had to literally Google search UIs before I could start making one.

You start by finding out what youre interested in.

Then you fucking learn how to construct it.

For example

"I want to learn how to draw anime"
too bold
"I want to learn how to draw cute anime girls"
Alright, thats good enough

You learn how to draw cute shit
Learn how to draw anime style by finding styles you like then practicing them and their quirks
Then learn how to draw cute anime girls by getting lots of cute anime girls then drawing them, finding out what makes them tick and work.

If you want to be more accurate, Study life, study how actual girls look and how their bodies contort and bend and move realistically.

Find different artists you love, imitate their styles.
Do what makes you happy and interests you, otherwise you'll drop it like a bomb.

Youre not going to learn shit if youre not interested in it.

There's no proper way. Practice makes perfect. Just throw yourself at it while studying artbooks or copying the artstyle you like. Once you can imitate something well enough, try to throw your own spin on it. Nobody but geniuses just starts off perfect. And you're gonna feel like shit for it too, but you have to just throw yourself at it again and again as you get better at drawing each specific line.

>work SMART
I've always hated when people say this. Working smart is in most jobs synonymous for doing doing things in the laziest fashion possible. If you really want to get something done first you judge your commitment. If you really want to succeed then you smartly find the fundamentals of doing it. Work hard at reaching an acceptable level in the basics and move from there. There is no working smart or working hard without the other when it comes to this kind of thing. You do both if you want to do something right.

I tried to get back into drawing a year or two ago, but holy shit tablets are impossible. Can't coordinate hand with screen or get lines anywhere near looking decent. I had powerleveled a bit with paper beforehand to get decent again, but I just can't do digital.