The reason why Dragon Ball will never be the best manga/anime is because they're too fucking soft...

The reason why Dragon Ball will never be the best manga/anime is because they're too fucking soft, Toriyama doesn't take any risk, everything is always obvious.

For exemple, just put Goten as Black in the Zamasu arc and you have a shit tons of parameters that would make this arc a hundred times better. Instead of that they give us a fucking bodyswap of Goku, damn man. Just grow some balls and do something original and takes some risks.

I honestly thought it was related to the timeline that they still haven't explained back when there were only four.

>expecting a battle shounen to be anywhere close to "best manga/anime"

In his category, at least

Who cares about your opinion? Dragon Ball was one of the most popular manga in the world. It has been concluded by long time and Toriyama is absurdly rich. By now, It does not matter whether it's the best manga ever or shit, becaue It's part of today's culture.

My young faggot, yes it does matter to say it's not the best manga since a lot of people are saying it is, just because it was the one they grew up with

I liked the idea of Future Goten vs Future Trunks, two men who didn't grow up as friends, no past history. It makes Goten relevant too, especially since Goku Black is rocking the long sleeved Gi.

But Ningen hater is fine too.

>DBS is shit because Toriyama didn't make my headcannon canon.

Dude that was just an exemple, it's not that deep bro. I literally said DB was too soft and takes no risk. That goes for DBZ and DB as well

And you, angry faggot, why are you so butthurt? You're just a little ass who writes from his bedroom and tries to give himself a tone while criticizing a manga that, for good or for bad, has made history. I do not think you will change people's opinion with a thread on Sup Forums, and, anyways, You're out of time. Dragon Ball has already made its money.

I'm pretty sure i'm not the butthurted one here.

>Guys, guys, my fanfic is better.

No, it's called autism.

What do you call the fact that Toriyama absolutely can not kill any of his characters or introduce new ones?

+I see you samefagging

>What do you call the fact that Toriyama absolutely can not kill any of his characters
Because DBS is before the End of Z, you know, where everybody's alive

> or introduce new ones?
This is bait?

Black killed alternate Goku and Trunk's universe tho

I'm not talking about DBS only, are you going being retarded on purpose?

When I say he doesn't introduce new characters of course i'm not talking about the ones they are going to face, but new allies, and Super this times, proves it. They are going to save the universe with characters like Tien, Roshi or 17, you can clearly see the lack of creativity

Yes , but be honest, nobody gives a shit, Goku probably died in a shit load of differents timelines already

Dragon Ball ended with the namek saga.
Its really good.
If you are watching super I feel sorry for you.

are you guys*

Dragonball ended when beerus told freeza to blow up planet vegeta.

it wasnt even possible for goten to be born you sperg.

Super is pro at doing retcon, we never heard about chichi in the future timeline, they could totally build up something

mah DBZ infinite