STOP DIVIDE AND CONQUER ON MEN

1980: Jocks vs Nerds
2000: PUA vs Virgins
2010: Alphas vs Betas
2015: MGTOW vs Cucks
2018: Chads vs Soyboys

This is the single most retarded divide and conquer quest ever created, and once we realize how retarded it is, it mutates into a new form with different names.

Undermining any man for not being a real man is a very short sighted plan, and doesn't recognize the fact that any functioning society has always had multiple types of men with different skills.

>Sup Forums will defend this

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as a soyboy myself i think you're retarded. i'm a failure as a human being and as a man and the more men that end up like me the more fucked humanity will end up in the long run. soyboys are useless and even if there was a use for us, there are too many of us, it's unnatural. there's a chemical and sociological war against masculinity that needs to be resisted.

kys soyboy

You are Canadian. That is an entirely different problem.

Well, considering are raised from a very young age to try to be competitive with each other and with the current power structure, there's only a limited amount of room at top...

This won't change.

Of course, you could tear the system down so that all men have a place at the table... But if that's they case why not just keep breaking the wall so that all people have a place? Seem that'd be a waste to stop tearing down the ivory tower halfway.

You know how you can stop being a soyboy? Stop thinking that you're not a manly man because you don't fall into so silly concept that changes between culture/generation.

the elite fear a population of masculine men because they are harder to rule over, real men demand things, they back up their demands with aggresiion and competence. real men are not as submissive to all the bullshit.

thats where soyboys enter the picture. even if a soyboy wants to resist he's a loser and nobody will listen to him. it takes a dominant alpha male with charisma to get shit done.

the more men that end up failed and pathetic losers the fewer real men are left to effectively reists. chemically and psychologically emasculated by the plastics and the endocrine disrupters and the atrazine runoff and the gmos and the constant propaganda from the schools and media, failed incomplete men that are ineffective and basically useless even when well intentioned.

If you look at the most rich and powerful men in the world, including presidents, very few of them are sexually active body builder types.

We just happen to be in a historical moment where getting a lot of pussy gives voice to a segment of men who dedicate their lives to their own bodies, but that doesn't change the fact that the world needs and runs on men who will have between 1 and 5 sexual partners at most over a lifetime.

Is it so hard to just let that be a thing without attacking each other?

as long as you are white and nationalist you should not be judged for being skinny and smart, or buff and dumb. ideally a master race of both buff smart people would be nice but you cant have your cake and eat it. so be nice to each other my brothers.

stop gobbling propaganda from liberal scientism

masculinity has always been a thing, maybe some details change from culture to culture but generally speaking men are men. men are strong, competent, aggresive when they need to be, they get shit done. todays soyboys do not get shit done and couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag let alone support a civilization.

I talked about the hazards of soy to a group of soy boys and they essentially called me an idiot even though it's linked to cancer growth. plus it tastes like shit. liquid aminos are a pretty good replacement though.

>2000: PUA vs Virgins

I didn't start seeing that shit until 2008 or so.

Trans vs. biochad.

t. canadian who thinks history was made by swole 0% body fat alphas.

You've been force fed this notion of "the right way of being a man", and even if it hurts you, you still defend it.

Why can't you just accept yourself for once?

The divide is better than the soyboy acceptance alternative. Look at fat acceptance and tell me you want that as a replacement for the Chad/Soyboy dichotomy.

you're creating a strawman version of a proper man and assuming that i demand a world of "swole 0% body fat alphas"

the world used to be almost exclusively proper men. it wasn't a world of bodybuilders. it was a world of masclunity, which extends beyond the strawman version of masculinty you portray.

because i'm fucking garbage, i'm a dud, i've got a soft round jawline and a beta male face and my hormonal levels are probably low as fuck. i'm not aggresive or dominant or capable of mastering my domain or achieving success through competence. i'm not going to raise a family or accomplish anything. which means, i'm not a real man. because the definintion of a real man is all of the things i'm not.

and it's a good thing real men do still exist in the world or we would basically be completely fucked. because soyboys don't do fuck all, aside from some rare exception,s soyboys are useless and thats not acceptable.

Discussing masculinity and what it is or isn't is effeminate as fuck. Just get on with whatever it is you should be doing and leave this shit to women and faggots.

Chads and Soyboys should be friends. All men need to get our shit together and start acting like women and sticking together looking out for each other.

Do you have a cock and balls? Congratulations, you're a man.

#metoo is done by all kinds of men

>start acting like women and sticking together looking out for each other
Jesus, do you even know any women? They all hate one another and will stab each other in the back any chance they get, they're far worse than men.

i'm a male, not a proper man. fuck off

A fucking leaf riddling the thread with negativity and defatism.
You're worse than a soyboy, you're a fucking illness

so basically you agree, i'm not a proper man. so finally you understand my argument

They are literally the same thing. Even faggots are men. Even you. Don't fall for this "gender" bullshit, genders are for French nouns.

this whole thread is just some liberal bullshit about how everything should be permitted and accepted and that the increased weakness of todays men is totally a-ok and not a threat to civilization at all. such nonsense

>mfw you realise it's never been anything other than Unter vs. Ubermen

Chad v Beta meme is the epitome of this. I love it so much.

If you watch porn, play vidya, don't lift and aren't 100% dedicated to restoring the white race you DO NOT DESERVE TO LIVE

fucking semantics, piss off. everyone knows what i mean by "a real man" unless they have their heads up their asses trying to pretend there's no such thing as masculinity.

some men are less masculine then others. too many men these days aren't masculine enought. period

Are traps "men"?

>Brazzilian shitskin
>Talking shit

Except that's happening because you're dragging down this thread. You could be the biggest chad in the world, type the same stuff, and we'd still think you're a cunt irl.

Yes, the dick makes it better

No, you blithering idiot, I don't "basically agree". I'm calling you out on spreading hopelessness to other men before they even try to get out of deep shit
You are just doing a disservice, and this isn't a soyboy trait, it's actually closer related to sociopaths

>you DO NOT DESERVE TO LIVE
Try me, bitch. Violate the NAP. I dare you.

don't twist his poor liberal mind into a pretzel, he can't handle the cognitive dissonence without retreating to his safe space for a sot latte

The thing that really makes you soyboy is the fact that you recognize current yourself as a failure, but STILL can't make any decisions to improve yourself and your life.

Look up "man" in the dictionary, it says "adult male". Anything else you want to add to the definition so you can convince yourself you aren't a man is your business.

Soy boys vote Dem. They are enemies of the state and need to be put down

>the dick makes it better
Faggot

It's a meme you dip. Fucking newfags, I swear.

masculinity noun [ U ] uk /ˌmæs.kjəˈlJn.ə.ti/ us /ˌmæs.kjəˈlJn.ə.t̬i/

the characteristics that are traditionally thought to be typical of or suitable for men:

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so you recognize that i am a soyboy. yes, i am too pathetic and weak to even improve myself and my life. if i was less pathetic and less weak then i wold be more masculine and less of a soyboy

Pretty circular. You didn't say you weren't masculine, you said you weren't a man.
>noun: an adult male human being
Also from the Cambridge English Dictionary

>don't twist his poor liberal mind into a pretzel, he can't handle the cognitive dissonence without retreating to his safe space for a soy latte.

>i'm fucking garbage, i'm a dud, i've got a soft round jawline and a beta male face and my hormonal levels are probably low as fuck. i'm not aggresive or dominant or capable of mastering my domain or achieving success through competence.

What are soyboys good for exactly? Sounds like egalitarian cuck talk.

liberal professors working for the establishment in subversive state run indoctrination facilities known as schools are trying to teach that there's no such thing as masculinity.

the world is becoming increasingly less masculine as a result of malevolent social engineering and we're not supposed to notice or care.

SEMANTICS I DONT CARE

>the dick makes it better
You don't know what traps are, do you?

>newfag
That was meme response to meme.
Retard.

Why don't you make like a canadian and leaf, you faggot?

what is your point?
i'm not allowed to insult other people if i've already insulted myself?

>"Retard"
This is 2018.
BumboCockopolis.

YES.

Now you are just a bad troll. Pic related.

Here, I found it

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i'm right. bitch about it all you like i don't care

masculinuity is real and its a basic ideal that modern soyboys don't live up to

>i'm right
no, you are a leaf

>he thinks masculinity isn't real and that modern soyboys are totally acceptable as proper men

yeah no. leaf or not, i'm right and you're wrong

The cast aways of the Prussian education system need to take up arms and kill. We're already preconditioned to handle sadism.

Still much MUCH richer and whiter then you.
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Yep. This meme deserves to die. What are we fighting each other for? To see who can cram the most into women? Whether it's money or cock?

It's not our fault that we're fighting each other. Men didn't use to have this alpha/beta divide. Go back just a hundred years and it doesn't exist anymore. You were a Chad because you hunted and you were a Soyboy beta because you brought back that bacon for your wife who you love. The male role got split in half and that is not our fault and that is not easy to fix.

We need to focus on creating a world where alpha and beta are the same exact thing. Were being a strong man means also being a man who has love in his life. Who provides for his family.

All Chad does is act like a nigger. Is acting like a nigger going to save the White family?

Go to the gym. Get fit. Yes. But don't forget, that's only half the equation.

We need a return of the Warrior Poet.

ITS BEYBLADEEEEE

It's a psychological issue, not a physical one. You can still be 5'2 and alpha minded or a 6'4 beta.

Why you keep on trolling? It's not like anybody really falls for your trap...

>Stop thinking that you're not a manly man because you don't fall into so silly concept that changes between culture/generation.

You do realize that masculinity has been largely similar for all history of humanity, yes?

>bravery
>strength
>efficiency
>honor

From Japan to the Inca Empire. Idiot.

bringing back bacon to feed your family is masculine.

being masculine has nothing to do with how many chicks you can fuck, but being unable to fuck chicks isn't very masculine because what women are attracted to is masculinity, so if you can't fuck chicks, it's probably because you're not very masculine.

>Were being a strong man means also being a man who has love in his life. Who provides for his family.
thats always been the definition of masculinity

you think "masculine" means some raging asshole who doesnt love anyone and doesnt even provide for his family?

your entire opinion is not valid because you dont even know what masculinity is.

There's different sorts of strength and having too much machismo is is a single of weakness.

The average "chad" isn't any more effective than a "soyboy". He's just capable of faking it and putting on a more confident front and maybe gets laid more... That's all.

"Real men" are calm, collected, and only aggressive when there's no other choice - and not all aggression is has to be physical. But that's how adults function, no matter what they have under their breeches.

You're not emasculated by fluoride in the drinking water, shit in your food, or anything like that either... You're "emasculated" by your lack of confidence and your envy of "real men". Break that cycle and you can improve you life.

>believing that masculinity is real and important and that soyboys don't meet the requirements of proper masculinity is "trolling"
ok buddy

you don't know what its like to be a soyboy. you don't know how it feels. i know i exist and i know i'm not a proper man. i don't need you to tell me i'm just as good as anyone other man when i know i'm not

Those traits are respected in all humans though. Men are just "expected" to be those things... But those traits also appear in women and are respected.

When skinny fags call me soyboy because I am short, I laugh.

OP is a soyboy cuck beta virgin nerd

>Those traits are respected in all humans though.

Source needed/irrelevant

>Men are just "expected" to be those things

Which is exactly my point

> But those traits also appear in women and are respected.

Source needed/irrelevant

Again, it's your lack of confidence. I know because I used to be there. I was a shelter, home-schooled kid that spent the majority of his time reading and when I finally went to the real world I was a fucking mess... But I worked on myself. I found confidence, I involved myself in subcultures that I could grow in, and I ended up being a functioning adult despite having some neurotic traits... But in the modern world, I don't know anyone whose not some sort of crazy.

You can grow. You can become a better person. You don't need to hold on to all this self-hate.

Rush launch, rush launch....so much better than those pokemon fags.

>>source needed
History? I mean, there's a reason why people like Joan of Arc are still talked about today, why Hua Mulan captures people's fascinations, why cultures around the world have goddesses of war... I mean, those traits are things people idealize in all humanity.

right, but none of that has any relevance towards disproving any of my arguments.

>muh confidence
>muh fake it till you make it
i would have to erase my entire personality to become who you think i should be. i'm not going to do that, i'm not even interested in being a proper man. i just recognize that proper men exist and that the establishment elite would rather masculinity was squashed. and that modern soyboys like myself suck and are not acceptable. we should be bullied and children should be taught that ending up like this means ending up as a failure of a man.

i am a soyboy. you don't have to agree, i don't care. the soy runs so deep that theres only so much that can be done to "fix it" and i'll never be a proper man. please dont even respond i do not want to hear it

We'll, if you don't want to be a real man, you won't be. If you want to be, you can become one.

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i could become a parody of a real man sure, an actor. not everyone can just be whatever and whoever.

Men compete. That's what makes us great. Performance is everything.

have a (you), sometimes it's funny to feed crumbles to trolls

True, for instance, women can't be men. I see your point.

Homie.

Most "real men" fake that shit, too. You just don't know it.

Are you seriously arguing that generally people had a positive opinion of brave and strong women in real life? Are you retarded? It was(is) the most disgusting combo for any man of the Middle Ages, just to bring an example.

Joan of Arc is remembered because she is a historical figure with elements of mysticism around her, I don't even know who Hua Mumu is.

And it's still irrelevant to my point

STOP ARGUING HAND OF CUNTS

The most lopsided standoff of all? Idiot Trumpcunts vs Americans. In that contest, liberal America woyld eat the losers alive in under 4 seconds. Republicans will always be inferior and WEAK.

stf

Boys are born, men are made.

>skinny
>clean clothes
>dissheveled appearance
>smoking
wow so masculine
cool gun though, if he even knows how to use it

There’s a reason for it. Canada’s public education system is nothing but pure indoctrination. Our Conservative party would be Democrats if we had American politics. The Overton window is pulled so far left in Canada it hurts, the only province that puts up a fight is Alberta.

but i agree with you, just saying

so what you're saying is that canada isn't masculine enough and that i'm right

>there's only a limited amount of room at top...
Yeah but that's because it's artificially made that way. NWO has been around since the tower of babel.

congratulations OP, you can see through all the bullshit. Unity is the only thing (((they))) fear.

unitiy is one thing, pretending there isn't a war on masclunity is another

>Undermining any man for not being a real man is a very short sighted plan, and doesn't recognize the fact that any functioning society has always had multiple types of men with different skills.
Fuck off soyboy, we know what you are.

Soy = beta =cucks = MGTOW

Alphas/Nerds/Chads/Jocks/PUA are all cool with each other. Well, Jocks need a beating now and then but they like it