Having a land value tax to fund social safety nets while in a relatively free market seems to make the most sense for a...

Having a land value tax to fund social safety nets while in a relatively free market seems to make the most sense for a political ideology. What's wrong with this?

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It's communism, redfag.

It's not communism you traitor.

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Come on, liberals hate that. The boomer champaign socialists in California voted to keep their land tax low. See prop 13

Nothing wrong with it. Best plan ever devised. Progress and poverty is a masterpiece.
There would have to be revolution first.

Shit I forgot to get rid of the flag. I was false flagging. I'm not a communist. Henry George was a right winger and Milton Friedman liked it for all you libertarians out there.

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Prop 13 is a property tax which is different from a single land tax

This is why I make pro-communism threads. It's the only way to get 360 replies in an hour.

>social safety nets

??????????????????????????????????? but what are neighbours, friends and family? they could simply be charitable without compulsion or obligation.

>admitting to being a (you) slut

You can't name a free market society without social safety nets that has been successful. It's essential for the economy but also morally essential.

shh

> buy land
> pay the government to live on it

Get fucked.

wat

You really are proving that these idiots will fall for any b8 as long as you post a pic of a vaguely pretty grill and say something contentious...

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Land Value Tax is the best tax system. Pair it with a simple basic income and you have the most efficient system possible.

I would love to have that system.

The problem is most people aren't rational actors. Minorities are racist and only vote for their own kind. They will vote to give themselves more gibs. Even amongst whites a large subset are short-term thinkers and would fight over tinkering with the system. You'd have constant arguments about raising or lowering the tax. Then some smartass would make some compromised position that introduces some "special tax" like a sin tax or inheritance tax.

TL;DR: humans are the problem.

I recognise the fine lasses

Property tax is evil = you don't own it, you're a renter with an oversized deposit.

It really needs to marketed more. The only reason I heard of it is because I was looking for obscure ideologies. For an ideology with so many famous names who love it you would think there would be more than 600 people on the subreddit.

can you post some more. i'm in the mood for obscure lasses

>grill

No. This is a christian family board.

Social safety nets disproportionately support certain races.

Your idea = land owners pay for everything. How about fuck you.

Fellow georgist not sure why that flag though

Kneck yourself Kike.

You like Batty bois.
>quelle surprise!

ok :(

It's not serious

You realize it's the most efficient and fair tax around. Unless your a leftie who wants 90% taxes this is the best form of taxes. Milton Friedman said so.

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i dont get it

>It really needs to marketed more.
Jews locked up all communications. Back when Henry George was popular their were unions, elks lodges, and civic societies you could travel around to and drum up support.
The internet should allow for something similar, but everyone is a retard and gave all the power to a handful of social media companies instead of using email, IRC, and forums.
Again, the problem is normal humans being fucking retards.

Get what

What is land ownership?
It's the right to tell other people to not come on part of the Earth. If you don't want me to come on "your" land you'll have to pay me, or pay for soldiers. Either way, you're paying.

You guys memed Trump into president. I'm sure Georgists could get more then 600 people on the subreddit. The best way I think would be to market it to both sides. Milton Friedman and Paul Krugman are both supporters of the LTV for example. Build some infographs, start a youtube channel. Start debating on websites.

the frog

>fair
You don't know the meaning of the word.

What's more fair than the Land Value Tax and you can't answer "no taxes"

says a dipshit who has never heard of fences and guns.

Have fun with your local warlord.

That is the answer.

says a dipshit who has never heard of fences and guns.

>land value tax

no that's retarded because it's not a liquid asset. people who own the land on which their homes are built do not accumulate money as it increases in value. they would have to sell the land to pay the tax.

it's the same reason inheritance taxes on assets like farms or property are retarded. in order to pay the tax, you have to sell the asset.

Taxation is theft

who will build the roads?

How much those fences and guns going to cost? Got a large posse?
Here's a suggestion. How about you team up with millions of other land owners and built a fence around all of your collective property. You can all chip in to buy guns and fences. It would probably be cheaper. Also, you could have a big insurance risk pool. You could call this idea... a country.

>take money from successful, hard working people for gibs
Yes clearly the most sense.

says the dipshit who thinks roads came into existence only after the federal government.

WHO
WILL
BUILD
THE
ROADS

not an argument

>own land
>until the state decides you don't
Nice try, pinko.

niggers arent satified with a "social safety net" they ALWAYS WANT MORE. MORE JORDANS MORE BENZ MORE BLUNTS MORE ROLEX MORE HHAIR WEAVES MORE GUCCI MORE MORE MORE GIBS GIBS GIBS IT WILL NEVER END.

Milton Friedman

While can't fathom the existence, when that's how things used to be and myself and others have no problem living that way.

meant to reply to you

what safety net??? If you live in any Westen democracy there is a thing called social security, it’s not a career choice it’s their so people don’t starve when they lose their jobs.

the world is flat?
pinochets buddy?
yeah hes got some interesting ideas.
anyone know where the commies from the other thread you were false flagging in went?

The problem is you're ignorant and can't see it. We built roads before there was a fed dept. funded by the jew irs and central bank scam created in 1914.

You are Nazi obviously you aren't going to like him but you can't get more Anti-socialist taxes are bad than Milton Friedman.

You can't make an argument for it in the ancap society. What stops google from buying all the roads and putting tolls everywhere?

I dont dislike him.
in a real politik sense we can at least implement his ideas, and they work.
itd be morally dishonest to say i dislike him.

Normal retard people are convinced by a strong identity. That identity has to seem like it's going to win. Either some rich and powerful person or group promotes the identity and gathers a bunch of followers, or it's a populist wave. Populist waves don't last unless a small group of people forms a lasting powerbase and wealth.
Basically humans are tribal and most are the dumb base of the pyramid the elites sit on top of.

In order to meme something like this into existence there would need to be something populist and memetic about it. Some feedback loop that causes it to grow in power. Then you'd have to survive the onslaught of power brokers slamming down on you. You'd have every power group attacking, since none of them want to lose their base. Even the higher IQ people would need a really good reason to jump from the Trump Train, or White Nationalist prepping, or the Transhumanist futurism. All to install a system that is more fair, and will benifit everyone in the long run. Benefit even your enemies. A movement that will take blood, sweat, and tears. Most would rather start a race-war, or race towards AI immortality.

>and they work.
No they don't. The Nazis are more successful than free market libertarians. They have existed.

That you can't see it is impressive. US built roads before there was the fed had a department to do it that you can't fathom roads can be built without, yet there it is, yet with pointing this out you still respond wut?

Why you avoiding the google argument.
> US built roads
Yeah but we aren't an-cap.

well obviously I have alternatives I prefer. Just see the flag, but milton helps kill commies good. I'm not gonna badmouth him.

i like the commies. they arent that bad.

ah close enough for me. thanks.
so the bad part of communism is the fact that it doesnt work, and kills everyone who trys it.
also kneck yourself commie fuck

There should be no government safety nets. Get out commie.

Not thinking Communists are baby killers doesn't mean I am one. Anyways communism hasn't existed.

Somalia is the only example of the free market without social safety nets but I'm sure you have some more successful countries to point out.

>google
By not having them for sale. wow. As for toll roads, they direct paying for them down to the people who use them.

>an-cap
I haven't argued an-cap.

really? Was it not real communism?
ugh try to work on integrity my man.
be honest with yourself.

GET OUT YOU COMMIE FUCK

So roads aren't for sale? Doesn't sound like a free market to me.

>As for toll roads, they direct paying for them down to the people who use them.
Paying $20 every 4 streets is good?

Somalia is full of niggers, and domestic charity doesn't exist there because they're niggers who can't into wealth.

Communism is stateless by defintion.

Henry George was a right winger who hated communists.

I know but it's the only example of the free market without social safety nets.

Somebody already debunked that on that last thread go fuck your self and go straight back to leftypol you ain't changing anyone minds and we also finally found out your twatter, we know your an obsessive cunt who simply cannot admit that you are wrong due to your giant ass fucking ego.

land is already taxed when it's sold

I don't know who you are talking about. That's not me. I've already made 4 communist threads today and everyone pointing towards the new thread. So it's not me.

I made sure to specify government safety net. Charity is a private safety net and I have nothing against it because you're not taking money from me. I don't need to name a successful country without safety nets because I already covered my bases in my first post.

(Only example) Which again are filled with niggers and are known for destruction not inventing.

>welfare capitalism
we have a free thinker here

uh huh so you need every single person on earth to agree with your politics and consent to them. and thats never gonna fucking happen. so you gotta take a state over and force the people in it to collectivise. and when they rebel you have to put them down or your start is stillborn. So now your a police state in one country. see? It is real communism because thats how life meets engel's fantasy. the political reality married to marx economics.
COMMUNISM DOES NOT WORK

Ya I was on that last fucking thread and then there was an answer already which you specifically ignored.

Okay. So show me some free market countries with charity safety nets.

Communism hasn't exist. Free Market has one example and it's failure.

Which is worse?

Like an-cap, I haven't argued free market in talking about roads being built.

yep found him. going to bed my ass

Thanks for conceding on what communism is.

>this kills the Land Value Tax

You meant the last communist thread right? I've posted a tranny for every single thread I've made. That's how you know I'm posting. Post your question again if it is.

He doesn't even know what land value tax is. He's wrong on what he thinks it is.

It doesn't exist in the modern world because we're nice enough to not kill leftists en masse. Pre-industrial US is a past example.

Can you give me some examples on what decade so we can go over them?

Tax income, not wealth, you shekelgrubber

Yeah but then you have to tax 90%.