This show is one of the biggest disappointments I've ever sat through. It was so good for an entire 44 episodes. When Gaelio says he's about to defeat McGillis while he's rising into space and the awesomeness of that moment. Such good aesthetics and even though many characters lacked development, I still enjoyed their design. The frames and suits you see are also so good. Giving off their primitiveness, but also emitting power. The sleek design of the more powerful ones and actually seeing them broken down. But those sinal fucking episodes man. I was enjoying the ride so much and was gonna put it as my favorite one, but then they just ruined it. It's now a situation of everything about the show is awesome, except the story and characters. The dialogue turned to shit, the pacing turned to shit, it all just turned to shit.
All I feel is disappointment.
Liam Davis
I honestly hope there's a sequel to redeem this show if possible. I'm kind of glad I waited to watch this show. I didn't have to wait week by week just to have the dagger get pushed inch by inch.
Hudson Perez
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes
William Nelson
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes
Owen Collins
It was good though The last episodes just leaves such a shit taste it's hard to remember it being good. I finished watching it 3 hours ago, so I still remember that delicious taste before it was tainted.
Isaac Martinez
>It was good though It wasn't. The first season had a huge stretch of episodes where nothing happened followed by an anticlimactic ending, the second season is even worse where shit doesn't actually starts happening until the last half. Out of IBO's 50 episodes I would say only 7 episodes were good while the rest ranged from subpar to outright bad it doesn't help that the animation was shit throughout. The fact that it took you this long to realize there was something wrong with the writing makes you a complete fucking idiot.
Logan Davis
And I could say that you're a retard for thinking it's bad in general. But the fact of the matter is that it was an awesome show that didn't need action in your face all the time to be enjoyable. The politics of the show WAS interesting and the pacing of the show felt proper. The first season ended well. They had a mission and they saw it through, despite all the odds against them because that was their only option to make something out of themselves and try to lead into full lives. It's the premise of the show. Plenty of shit went down during their escort mission and the battles were great. Like I said the only time it gets really bad is when they fuck up all their pacing near the ending of S2. Everything before that had plenty of things keeping you interested and asking "what happens next?" It's a good ride until the end.
Jonathan Russell
>And I could say that you're a retard for thinking it's bad in genera It is and given your LACK of retort I don't think you can prove otherwise. >But the fact of the matter is that it was an awesome show that didn't need action in your face all the time to be enjoyable. If only it did because it would distract me over how boring and unengaging the plot and characters are. >The politics of the show WAS interesting This probably has the most least interesting politics in any Gundam show and hat's saying a lot given how other Gundam series handled polotics
>and the pacing of the show felt proper. No it was just bad. Even people who like this shit would say you're full of it.
> The first season ended well. Not really, it felt like a really extended filler episode where they stretched it out to the point where you lost interest and they even faked you out expecting character death in those most hilarious way which all the more makes it pointless when all those same characters end up dying in the second season thus invalidating the existence of the first. > the battles were great. I'll never get tired of posting this webm because it shuts up everyone who still defends this show.
>Like I said the only time it gets really bad is when they fuck up all their pacing near the ending of S2. Everything before that had plenty of things keeping you interested and asking "what happens next?" It's a good ride until the end. Nope and you're forever be wrong for believing this. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean its not a stupid one.
Nolan Rogers
>The villains won in the end. fuck this shit show
Julian Hernandez
Tekkadan is the villian...Oh, and Macky too.
Gabriel Rodriguez
And as a bonus: after the vilains won they went and did what the good guys wanted to do in the first place: make Mars independant and outlaw human debris.
Isaiah Lewis
Actually, everyone won in the end, they just all died.
Yeah this is just a whole lot of shit opinion being thrown at me. You're not even typing real arguments.
Also, I don't get what's wrong with the webm.
Alexander Gray
>NO U: The post Yeah I'll take this as a concession
Joseph Gonzalez
>Gets BTFO >N-n-n-n-no U Kek
>Also, I don't get what's wrong with the webm. It helps to open your eyes user
Jacob Morgan
>NO U >concession I'll take this as, you have autism. Also, stop samefagging
Thomas Ross
They might have been the atagonists but they were definitely not the villains
Nicholas Nguyen
Nah, more than one person thinks you're a fucking idiot user. Just because we like making fun of you for having shit taste doesn't mean you need to cry about it.
Jace Wright
>6 posters, >easily identifiable posting format. >time between post k samefag
David Jenkins
>Using illegal WMD >Manipulating the media to hide this fact >Was the cause of everything bad that happened in the show >New post series interview states that Rustal would have been sentenced for his crimes if the media blowout was ever discovered
Nope they were definitely the villains, I mean the show didn't actually try to hide that
Henry Long
>everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag Yeah...good luck with that
Ryder Flores
No, just samefags are samefags, that's all there is too it.
Xavier Walker
Why was the staff obsessed with a bad ending? I remember reading they would have preferred if no tekkadan members survived. It's like they wanted to surpass "kill em' all Tomino" with named character deaths.
James Allen
I loved following Tekkadan and it was painful to see the staff undo everything they did in the last moment. Fuck Nagai.
Cameron Baker
>Why was the staff obsessed with a bad ending? Nagai wanted to be edgy and all Okada cared about was that her husbando made it out alive.
>It's like they wanted to surpass "kill em' all Tomino" with named character deaths. Too bad they failed spectacularly
Jaxon Rivera
I want a Yoko Taro written Gundam, it would the Turn A of the 21st century.
Caleb Perez
This is partly how I felt too. When it came to the named members dying, at first I was okay with that, but when Orga died I had to question who's gonna be left. Then when they took away Akihiro and Mika, I felt so lost on the show. Characters they introduced S2 characters that died, which was okay because I believed it was safe to assume they were wood for the fire. I didn't bother getting really attached to them, but when so many ended up dying and then they also decided to keep going with that 'fuel for the fire' mindset it felt terrible. Many of the characters should live and the mains should die or the mains live and many other characters die is how it should be. IBOs just didn't get the memo.
Matthew Smith
>I loved following Tekkadan You loved following full poorly developed characters?
Colton Anderson
>full >poorly developed
Brandon Allen
But everyone achieved their goals. Space rats secured a future for their family. Macky proved that might makes right by getting outmighted. Space whores got free from their pimp daddy.
If anything s1 ending was bullshit with Tekkadan getting away scot-free after so much destruction they caused on Earth.
Dylan Wood
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes. You're an absolute moron that didn't understand the way the show was going. The fucking said how it was going to go down in episode 26. If you're going to be mad at something be mad at yourself for being too stupid to see how this show was going to end. IBO is a good story that pissed people off because they expected things to go differently when in reality it had been set up to end this way from the beginning. Feel bad.
Adam Bailey
But the problem wasn't that it was going to end poorly. The problem is how poorly done it was. I expected Mika to die the entire time, but honestly the way it all panned out was shit. Everyone saw a tragedy coming, but no one thought they could shit the bed so bad. How hard could it be to give the few characters you put time into a cool or meaningful death. The pimp had arguable the best death in the show, which is sad, but it was mid season too, so you waited for the better ones to come along, which they didn't.
Matthew Lewis
>IBO is a good story
David Taylor
Yes that's exactly what I said but since you only know greentext as a response I expected no less. No its a shitty story that most people dropped halfway into the first season that only pissed off retards who stayed for whatever reason.
Asher Long
So that mean you haven't watched the whole thing? You're shitposting.
Mason Smith
don't post non-Sup Forums pictures on Sup Forums go back to your shitholes
Nathaniel Long
I'll post whatever the fuck I want. You got a problem, bitch?
Brayden Long
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes
Daniel Collins
It makes sense. Do you really expect a group of stupid child soldiers to end up being the rulers of the universe? Don't get it twisted I am and forever will be a Tekkadan supported but if they would have won it would have been the biggest asspull in gundam history.
Also director Nagai was just a weirdo who's self insert was Ein from S1 of IBO. In radio interviews and magazine interviews he said everyone on Tekkadans side was pure evil and they deserved to be judged and punished for being horrible pieces of shit. He never comments on all the dirty shit Gjallarhorn did as well and the fact that the world is shit due to gjallarhorns failing. It's obvious he and the rest of the writing team had a falling out and he's taking it out in interviews. He also said Gaelio wasn't interested in committing to Julieta even tho Mari okada said that they did end up together but that's beside the point.
Austin Bailey
>Do you really expect a group of stupid child soldiers to end up being the rulers of the universe? First, it was only about Mars. Second, Kudelia was supposed to take over. They wanted to fuck off and live their lives in peace, they never intended to actually rule over Mars. There's a reason why Kudelia was completely written off in S2. How otherwise would Tekkadan get into such deep shit if Kudelia offered help when they needed it after fedora died? Literally the only reason why everything went to shit for them was because they threw their lot in with McGillis. And McGillis, which is also confirmed recent interview info, was deliberately dumbed down and made into an idiot to facilitate his losing to team Rustal/Gaelio while taking Tekkadan with him. Even though bringing Tekkadan down was their initial intention they literally had no idea how to do it 40 episodes into the freaking show so they ad hoc made everyone into suicidal retards marching into their deaths. Only Okada openly admits they shit the bed. She was the only one who wanted a happy end for Tekk so she doesn't feel obligated to defend Nagai's retardation.
Caleb Jackson
We can agree that Nagai is indeed retarded.
Jeremiah Clark
Shino was the real tragedy there. Poor Yamagi.
Brandon Sanchez
Orga's death was the most satisfying moment of the second season.
He's the one that started all of this. If it wasn't for him, Tekkadan would be the DHL of space. Everyone would be living comfy, rich lives. But no, he had to make a deal with a clearly delusional man to become the king of mars. As a result, everyone he cared about was either killed or forced into hiding.
Jackson Diaz
t. Nagai
Robert Anderson
>Orga's death was the most satisfying moment of the second season
Go to bed Bizarro.
Caleb Peterson
Orga's death became a meme in Japan so Nagai, albeit ironically, got what he wanted.
Sebastian Garcia
I like the fidget spinner one
Daniel Gonzalez
>In radio interviews and magazine interviews he said everyone on Tekkadans side was pure evil and they deserved to be judged and punished for being horrible pieces of shit. I think Nagai is just having some sort of dissociation from the finished product so when he's referring to Tekkadan in the interviews what he's actually referring to is the Tekkadan that lives in his head, not the actual Tekkadan seen in the show. The guy is just really far up his own ass when it comes to his "vision" and still can't deal with the fact that the show which aired on TV differs from it so vastly. Mostly due to him giving Okada free range in writing the script and never bothering to check if it matches his "vision.".
Michael Jones
The ending was the only good thing from this shitshow.
Christian Roberts
>Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.
Nathan Moore
Deinsleifs were a mistake.
Dominic Sullivan
I think it would've been more acceptable if they gave the audience knowledge of their existence and how important it is to not use one. Having them appear out of nowhere, then immediately putting them into a negative light was a bad decision. It should've been 'Terribly powerful weapon, desperate enough to use such weapon. use of weapon causes conflict, weapon becomes the bane' instead we got 'Find weapon, use it, everyone's bane'. So shitty.
Cameron Butler
*Gaelio and McGillis were the only good thing from this shitshow.
Andrew Green
*Shino and Yamagi were the only good thing in this shitshow. Fixed that for you my fujo friend. Gealio and Macky were just the regular fujoshit forage of the standard, hilariously overdramatic fare.
Austin Wright
Ein did nothing wrong
Ethan Allen
Post it.
Benjamin Ortiz
I never liked Shino and Yamagi. Too boring for me. Sorry friend but I'll take the typical ambiguously gay rivalry/friendship/revenge plot, and GaliEin too, over this particular brand of bland canon homo any day.
Nolan Brooks
No one did anything. Except the fuckers that made the MAs and caused the universe to turn to shit.
Hunter Gomez
>Engineering a fake rebellion on one of the sides and then using it as a excuse to massacre the rebellion and civilians alike >not villians
Lincoln Bailey
>villains it's been months and people still fail to understand a show as unsubtle as IBO
this board is hopeless
Thomas Brown
explain it then fuker
Tyler Powell
Shino/Yamagi was neither bland nor boring. It was a natural and wholesome relationship of two guys who casually wanted to be together, brillaint in its simplicity. And in these qualities a completely refreshing and unique experience. But like I said, you keep on consuming your commoner pasture.
Jaxon Evans
Sorry, I feed on suffering. Simple pleasures are just not my thing.
Logan Wilson
So is IBO good or not? I keep hearing 'its shit' and 'its good'.
Colton Rodriguez
ibo has a lot of problems but it's not bad it also depends on what you expect and if you pay attention
Jace King
It's shit but worth watching for best boy.
Eli Morris
It's boring
Evan Gutierrez
Good right until you reach the last 6-7 episodes where it devolves into shit.
Bentley Butler
>staff goes and admitts his presence made the show worse Gaeliofags are a laughing stock.
Nolan Rogers
Kind of like the new Samurai Jack season? Alright.
Jordan Nelson
The creators couldn't decide which should be the desired result. In the very beginning I hoped that they're gonna make TV series about struggle for independence, fight against social organization that has allowed the existence of child mercenaries. Maybe they would add a conflict between beliefs and pragmatism. Something like Code Geass or maybe even Dougram. In the end I've got boring show with lots of undeveloped characters, idiotic story, empty episodes that contribute nothing neither for the story, nor for character development. I couldn't make myself finish the second season.
Xavier Williams
Shit. Better rewatch Geass or something ancient like Votoms
Asher Young
See It is a fact that the antagonist side was shown doing unsavory things like killing civilians and using outlaws WMD then framing on it on the protagonist. While the orphans and char were shown to be fighting for good causes like the liberation of mars and children from colonial enslavement.
Justin Hill
I enjoyed this show, the one thing I can majorly say is that most mobile suits were underused. Ryusei-Gay, Muh Bael, Vidar etc.
Michael Thomas
Do you like shipfaggotery and edge? You'll probably like it. It has chink-tier animation at times. Sad attempt at politics. Pacing of an amateur writer. Characters that only exist so you can feel sorry for.
So if the writing and visuals are shit, why watch it?
Dominic Martin
Remember to report this shitty Sup Forums fag, he likes samefagging in these threads and his images don't belong on this board.
Carson Taylor
>conflict between beliefs and pragmatism. Something like Code Geass or maybe even Dougram.
What the fuck are you even on about?
With IBO, Nagai was obviously trying to subvert/deconstruct Gundam. Most major theme being how adults are right, kids are wrong.
He failed badly at it though.
Xavier Roberts
"I can't live without fighting"
I love IBO
Colton Perry
>What the fuck are you even on about? The very first episodes, when they were building the world for the story. There was massive political protest, images of social issues such as drug addiction and poverty among teen children, etc. So I expected that the story would be about struggle between those who are suffering and those who benefit from the system in general. >With IBO, Nagai was obviously trying to subvert/deconstruct Gundam What for?
Kevin Johnson
Shino/Yamagi is largely suffering though. The kind eligible to be taken seriously unlike the laughably grotesque melodrama gali ended up in on both sides. Great stuff from every angle.
Zachary Hughes
IBO was sex
Asher Barnes
>What for?
Gunota are obsessed with trying to create the best Gundam ever and outdo Tomino.
Ethan Reed
>yfw they still haven't made a garm rodi kit
Colton Brooks
The biggest mistake of IBO was trying to jutify Gjallhorn. The second mistake was reducing Kudelia's role in Season 2 because of the fans hating her. If she had a bigger role, things would have probably played out better for Tekkedan.
Writers went out of the way to show that Gjallhorn was corrupt and responsible for the world being a mess.
I would have had less of a problem with the ending if the writers had shown throughout the season that Rustal wanted reform. The man spends the whole season being corrupt and then the writers expect fans to believe he was secretly a reformer?