Why can't I just take the money I am paying into Social Security and just give it directly to my Grandparents?

Why can't I just take the money I am paying into Social Security and just give it directly to my Grandparents?

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Why can't you give the money you spend on anal lube to your grandparents, you fucking ancap degenerate?

The same people ask why they can't just save it up for themselves. There are two answers: Because shut up. And because, after they declare retirement, they'll keep receiving payments until they die. Unlike, say, a 401(k) or IRA, or any other retirement plan, retirement from social security is paid until death, regardless of how much that person contributed.

Because government can enforce charity. They have guns

TIRED SHILL THREAD AND POLTARDS ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUMP IT.

FUCKING STOP!!!

Beacuse the (((Rosenfelds))) brainwashed your ancestors using Jewish Tricks.

because then low-iq people would starve, and the zog would be unable to further destroy american families

low-effort baitpost. sega

>anyone who is against SS is an ancap
>retirement from social security is paid until death, regardless of how much that person contributed.
Why would people stop getting payments from their decendents
if anything they would get more as their family grew

>oy vey
SS needs phased out. We can pay out the shmendricks who got forced into it while at the same time freeing the younger generations from its shackles.

Why not? Shekels, of course!

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it's a good topic, fuck yourself

because I have no grandparents. You wouldn't want me to be freeloading would you?

How would you be freeloading?

exactly this.

Because the government needs social security to buy boomer votes. And they'll Waco your ass to pay for it.

> Why would people stop getting payments from their decendents
> if anything they would get more as their family grew
That's a nice idea if you have family that will organize a pay structure like that. Quite telling how that idea was never considered possible, even in the closer-to-homogeneous culture of the day.

Also IIRC, SS collects interest. The more people pay into it, the bigger it gets, and exponentially over time. That is, if there was enough there for the interest to cover the rate of withdraw..

>Quite telling how that idea was never considered possible,
that is how it worked for 1000s of years before SS

If only SS had bought insurance in those 9/11 towers we could all be living high on the hog right now.

> that is how it worked for 1000s of years before SS
It won't work wherever cash is king (here). You can't go back to the farm in 1930s USA and stay there. Certainly not today either.

This is especially problematic for families whose breadwinners needed to take physically demanding high-risk jobs, and could become disabled because of it. This leads us to the other purpose of SS: Disability pay. Advanced age == disability. I think we can agree there, for the most part.

you can buy disability insurance if you want

Dangerous jobs pay more. They get covered by the higher pay.

>disability pay
Disability pay is life support. It's a bigger cashsink than sending money to Africa. It's something the family should deal with; society should not be forced to pay for them.

There are limits to how much the typical plan will pay out. I'm not an expert in the area, though. I'm just posting information about Social Security for those curious. I will say the current level of expenditure we are seeing is irresponsible, and that too many of the wrong people are receiving benefits for no reason. It will get worse as the previous generation retires.

Ok well then go to your church/family if you get disabled

The kind of work I'm talking about causes permanent disability. Everything from irreversible brain damage to loss of limbs. You can't go back to the same work after that, and you're SOL if you don't have a support network. That is the kind of person who should be receiving SSDI. These kinds of jobs don't actually pay as well as they should, in my opinion.

What I find infuriating is that, despite the extensive research done into the financial background of every applicant, there are still many who qualify where they should not. Applicants who wish to receive SSDI cannot have millions in assets and expect to be accepted. Yet, this still happens.

because your grandparents probably aren't ghetto niggers.

You can actually from your secret bank account in the Federal Reserve.

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Because you didn't choose the family Lottery that you were born into faggot

Your family and your taxes will pay for mine. Get over it

Because liberals do not raise their children. Their grandchildren would never give them a dime because, even providing that they know who they are, they were never in their life. How is a nigger going to give money to his dad when he doesn't know who he is?

Social Security is welfare for people that were shit parents. They either allowed their children to grow up to be failures that can't take care of their parents as adults. Or they were such assholes that their kids don't want anything to do with them.

really activates the ol' almonds

curse the tyranny of admiralty law!

Why aren't you taking care of your own parents?

How much is that?
120$ ? No way
120 Baht? Sure why not. Better wrap up tho

>because your grandparents probably aren't ghetto niggers
That's a good point. I'm honestly troubled by how to dispense of their assets when they're gone. It's all such a waste. If only it weren't in a hellhole state where taxes and laws make me want to never go back.

>black people
>assets

'85 box chevys on Forgiato rims are pretty much just worth scrap metal values

because it's a fucking scam and ponzi where (((politicians))) can tap into the money supply and use it for their (((military freedom campaigns))) or for their (((personal))) use.

It's really not your money, but you have to pay because you are a fucking goy. Know your place goyim.

We should stop sending aid to Africa as well. It only causes more warlords and breed problem behavior.

WOW HOW THE HECK DID OLD PPL SURVIVE BEFORE THE GLORIOUS BENEVOLENT STATE SWOOPED IN AND STARTED ROBBING YOUNG PEOPLE AT GUNPOINT FOR THE EARNINGS AND GIVING THE MONEY TO OLD PEOPLE

WOW

SERIOUSLY MAKES ME THINK user WOW THANKS WOW

OLD PEOPLE MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE DYING AND STUFF HAHA

why does the govt force me to pay into this ponzie scheme? Am I not smart enough to invest myself? If youre not you deserve to die young, fucking morons. End social security now.

Because you stupid wage cucks will do it for me

Thanks for paying your taxes

>itt butthurt boomers defend an inherent communist program

:gas:

because some ppl dont know how to save and u need to subsidize their recklessness, wat r u a bigot?

Some people aspire to more than living in Section 8. You have nothing to be proud of.

Yeah crypto kikes who want to be consumer materialists

That's a very small percentage of people. The average person doesn't want to live in Section 8 or on autism bucks either. There is nothing to brag about being financially dependent on the grace of other people.

Top leaf

No one was talking about Section 8 or welfare only Social Security.

The only reason people want to give just to their families is because they subscribe to the family Lottery mentality they didn't choose who their family is but they will benefit from it 100% and allow nobody else to benefit, which is literal kike shit.

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No, people give to their families because their families raised them. Other people did not. Again, if you require Social Security you were either a bad parent (otherwise your children would help you) or a failure.

Parents and grandparents give to their children, who did not raise them you fucking kike. People will work their entire lives to hand over their business to their son who could be sub standard IQ virgin neet , why? Family Lottery conditioning.

I know that you want all money to stay in your family because you are a materialist crypto Jew but we live in a forced society now and do you have an obligation to others you greedy consumer crypto kike.

>not forking money over to gibsmedats
>literal kike shit
Yeah okay buddy

> WOW HOW THE HECK DID OLD PPL SURVIVE BEFORE THE GLORIOUS BENEVOLENT STATE SWOOPED IN...
They generally didn't, especially if their children abandoned them or died.*
I'm not a proponent of the current system as it is, but there is no simple way to undo what has happened. The individual has been hoisted upon the highest pedestal in society, above all prior obligations to any group. On one hand, this has freed us from our limitations as members of small in-groups**, it has on another transferred all related burdens to absolutely everyone.

*The average life span of a human being was about 30 years for the first few millennia of civilization. We still bear that evolutionary mark as where growth and development stops - you are biologically "over the hill" at about age 25, and your body expected to die around age 30. About 15 years after, around 45, the female body stops working.

**The average social capacity of a human being - that is, relationships from 'friend' to 'love interest' - is about 120.

Because the welfare elite scum have to take their big bite out first.

Socialism is Jewish but your capitalist, other side of the Hebrew coin isn't.

Lmao

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Parents raise their children. Those children, out of gratitude and love give back to their parents when they are old. I'm not sure why you would think they should give to someone else who has never helped them before.

>People will work their entire lives to hand over their business to their son who could be sub standard IQ virgin neet , why?
Because they like their son more than you. You have never done anything for them. Never given them joy or any form of happiness. Their son has, otherwise they wouldn't give anything to him. You are simply a leech, you want from others without giving anything in return.

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Fuck off commie. Stop trying to redistribute yourself other people's wealth.

>calls other people materists
>demands people give him shekels

The fact that parents give to children who ignore them for decades in their old age prove how full of shit you are. It has nothing to do with any of that simply the conditioning that at the end of your life you give everything that you have to your offspring.

You being a crypto Jew on a Mongolian fingerpainting forum of course you want to enable that you will be the sole beneficiary of your parent's inheritance. Your future probably looks extremely bleak without that so thats reason why most people also push the family Lottery.

Not gonna happen if I can get my hands on it, kike.

I made no demands just that you kikes can't keep everything in your pocket for yourself

>grandpa slaved away
>left me some inheritance
>Muh wealth, I worked hard for this

were already doing that

you are demanding people give up their money to pay for degenerates

>people should not be able to decide where their money goes
Fuck off commie. You don't have a right to other people's stuff.

Lying kike

Even if they ignore their parents for decades, they still gave more to their parents in the early years of their life than anyone else. People usually love their children. It is a very strong bond. I understand that you clearly fucked up somewhere, and your parents either will give you nothing or have nothing to give you, but that is not something to be angry at others about. It's certainly not reason to try to steal from them as you are promoting. Instead, you should become successful yourself so you aren't dependent upon taking from others when you're old.

And as a side note, you do not need cryptocurrency to be successful, unless you think nobody prior to a couple years ago was successful. Maybe you should stop living on welfare and get a proper career.

>Muh free market
>I can do whatever I want cause capitalism
>totally not a crypto kike shilling for the other side of the Hebrew coin

OK why do we need SS?

Are you retarded man?

because civilization means subsidizing genelets and shitskins with your earnings only the government can handle money for the good of us all!

No, unlike you I'm a functioning member of society. The world would be a better place if everyone was like me. It would collapse and everyone would starve to death if everyone was a leech like you.

What are you talking about, you greedy nigger? You don't get to have money that isn't yours.

You clearly are, you think I was mentioning cryptocurrency.

Lmfao

BTW my parents give me a trust fund as a child, paid for my schooling, I'm fine. The difference between you and I is that I can admit that I benefited from a family Lottery system which I had absolutely no effect in the choices, where as you are just a kike shill

>It would collapse and everyone would starve to death
only the degenerates

>my money

Fuck off jew

Whos money is it?

>You clearly are, you think I was mentioning cryptocurrency.
You've said "crypto kike" numerous times.

>BTW my parents give me a trust fund as a child, paid for my schooling, I'm fine.
Explains why you don't know of any other way to become a success than to be given things.

Greatest Ponzi scheme ever. And it forces you to be a wage cuck. Its a form of slavery.

What is wrong with giving money to your children?

It means you are a subliminal jew. Literal doubt digit IQ.

>you

Building the corporation is a job. Running the corporation is a job. The capitalist is being paid for the surplus value he provides to society.

Fuck off commie, you don't get to take other people's money

Shuu Shuu jew boy

Be gone

You misunderstood this post

>Why can't I subvert the only legal ponzi scheme in the USA?
Ask FDR.

Worse than a ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes, unlike SS, are voluntary. Boomers deserve mass graves.

Not much, but there's a reason why trust fund babies have a stereotype. When you are given to for your whole life you become more entitled and less reliant upon yourself. Hence why the other user thinks it's okay to take from others.

>Why can't I just take the money I am paying into Social Security and just give it directly to my Grandparents?

Bad goyim

You are insane

social security is satanic as all hell. you can opt out on the grounds that the number is the mark of the beast.

>why trust fund babies have a stereotype
No that because Jews hate nepotism for everybody but themselves

You don't have to sign up for SS. You're dumber than a boomer.

Even worse are state run pensions, which are going away. That means that you are paying their pension but there is literally no chance of you getting a similar benefit.

So because you don't understand the difficulty and work it takes to start a business you just assume it's unfair they get paid for their efforts.

And you want to steal from people. You're no better than a nigger.

>Why can't I just take the money I am paying into Social Security and just give it directly to my Grandparents?

because most of your money goes to "disabled" people in the ghetto or trailer parks

Absolutely nothing. The commie is crying about the family lottery in the same way niggers cry about the genetic lottery. He thinks this fact of life should be rectified with gibs.

American capitalism is nepotism in and of itself.

Trades are impossible to get into because they're all family-owned businesses who hire the best person for the job (their son Bubba! Lol!!)

Lord Emperor Trump did not need 80 year old political advisors or Generals in his cabinet know his sons and daughter were the best person for the job!!! Lol!!!

Basically in any academic or financial business is it all comes down to who you know not to what you know.

You want to act as if this is simply a Jewish thing the majority of white Americans promote extreme forms of nepotism

>You don't have to sign up for SS
Oh cool. Where do I check the box to opt out of paying these fat old fucks?

>Trades are impossible to get into because they're all family-owned businesses who hire the best person for the job
> the majority of white Americans promote extreme forms of nepotism
I wish
Start your own business

Lying kike