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Seemed to have went well. Really good attendance, and a youngish bird said "she wanted to make Ireland great again". Couple of lads openly sporting Trump hats in the interviews as well.
Kayden Collins
don't know shit about Ireland. people are pretty based tho i have fond memories of drinking nights with the Irish. quick with a joke even quicker starting a fist fight...i was glad they were on my side.
My heart is swelling with pride for my people right now. This surprised me. Theres hope lads.
Nigel is a good speaker too, good on him.
Xavier Cook
although i do not agree with this EU faggot shill i do admire the courage to do something like that alone
Jace Hill
Although Farage is a good speaker, I don't think that he should associate himself too much with 'Irexit' or else the opposition will frame it as choosing Britain or Europe rather that Europe or ourselves
Julian Lewis
I agree. And the 'Irexit' label needs to go too. Can we not think of a better name?
He was needed to spark the fire though.
Julian Bell
BUMP
Logan Long
Éirexit would be much better
Mason Nelson
>the butthurt on the bbc comments over the last sec Ireland win
Tastes good. Made the Weekend, Sexton.
Nicholas Cruz
agreed. but it's too late now. it's already been branded Irexit
Dylan Rodriguez
Nice. Whatever you think of Britain Nige is great at sticking it to the EU.
Carson Fisher
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Chase Roberts
1916 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN
Andrew Butler
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Noah Wilson
The event was slightly farcical, and we should all be wary of Nigel's imperialistic leanings. He doesn't understand Ireland.
Dominic Gutierrez
around anglos never relax
John Clark
Mosley was favourable towards us, was he not?
Jaxson Young
Today we had an "Eirext" meeting, which was only attended by 400 Brits and West Brits. This talk was protested by the only relevant anti-EU Tendency in Ireland (the Far-Left), yet among the nobodies there was one relevant individual - James Charity, Cllr of Galway County Council. Let's looks at his future election chances.
Pic related, this is how he fared last time. 3rd place, not bad. However, FG only won two seats. It is likely that they will run three candidates next time and will win three. It is also likely that FF will retain all three seats. The single SF Councillor went independent, so it is obvious that SF will run at least one new candidate (if not two), and will win a seat.
Out of the seven seats, three of them are independents. Since the last Election, the polls have consistently shown that Independents will lose out big time next year. As it is likely that FF and SF will experience one gain each, it means that two of these three independents will lost a seat. Gabriel is obviously the first one gone, whilst Jim received more FPVs than James. 2014 was also James' first election, whilst Jim topped Oranmore in 2009. For this reason, I think James Charity will lose his seat.
The electorate of this LEA had 12,803 voters. The town of Athenry has 3,950 residents and the town of Oranmore has 4,990. This suggests that there are a huge amount of rural voters.
Nigel Farage attempted to claim that for those outside of Dublin, support for leaving the EU is high. In rural Ireland, support for the EU is higher. Farmers just love those CAP subsidies. This is backed by statistics.
rte.ie/news/2017/0509/873610-eu_poll/ >A new poll suggests that 88% of Irish people think Ireland should remain in the European Union [conducted by RedC]
Election results suggest that this should be even higher in rural farming communities, so Charity's seat is currently very unstable.
Camden Ramirez
he was, but you still have to watch your back around them
Angel Williams
>The electorate of this LEA had 12,803 voters. The town of Athenry has 3,950 residents and the town of Oranmore has 4,990. This suggests that there are a huge amount of rural voters.
I suppose the main point, and success was allowing for a group of people, certainly anti-status quo to gather. I can't think of too many times that's happened in Ireland recently.
I'd also say many Irish are pro-EU, but would be very open to changing the ruling mechanisms. Whether, one accepts that or not, that makes them Eurosceptics. The two failed referendum demonstrates this. People love the idea of the EU, but are skeptical of it's motivations.
Kevin Martinez
Oh aye, the anarchists in antifa are famous for their love for the EU. Pic related, the protesting Irish Far-Left who are anti-EU but are simultaneously anti-Farage.
Those who consider themselves "Nationalists", yet support British Imperialists like Farage are pathetic wholesale.
Nicholas Phillips
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a brit or west Brit
Sad!
Hudson Smith
Which one are you in pic?
Hudson Jones
Funny how all the (very few) socialists felt the need to stand outside trying to desperately display the anti-EU movement as theirs whilst all the Nationalists were inside. How many was there standing out there with a hump on em in the cold? Three? Five? HHAHAHHA!
Brayden Rodriguez
>I suppose the main point, and success was allowing for a group of people, certainly anti-status quo to gather. I can't think of too many times that's happened in Ireland recently.
These were not the people who attended this meeting, they are his local constituents on the other side of the country who will likely dislike the fact that he spoke at this event.
His chances in the next election are not good. Independents started becoming a big deal once the 2008 Crash happened, due to dissatisfaction with the prominent parties.
This continued for many years, however in recent years this has died down and FF, FG and SF have all experienced increases in votes, largely to the detriment of independents. Links related.
Well he is a very minor politician. The reality is that this conference was actually set up by ex-members of the "Republican Movement", and ended up being a gathering of like minded individuals of the right, it would appear.
One county councillor is meaningless. This is about shifting the conversation, and the meta-politics. A girl openly said in the clip "I want to make Ireland great again". That is unusual.
Combine this with the fore-coming abortion referendum, and we've got a real Kulturkampf being formed.
Caleb Fisher
>whilst all the Nationalists were inside
Only 400 people were inside. A huge volume of them were from Britain, many speakers like John Waters were West Brits. What sort of Irish Nationalists aligns themselves with Farage, who was against the Good Friday Agreement?
>A man from Sussex, now living in Ireland, says immigration is why he wants #Irexit. “Are you not an immigrant?” >“I don’t regard Ireland as a foreign country.”
You call yourself an Irish Nationalist whilst holding hands with such individuals? As I said - pathetic.
>"By no means suggesting they’re a majority or even close but there are an interesting number of English ex-pats in the crowd. "
Colton Sanders
>The reality is that this conference was actually set up by ex-members of the "Republican Movement"
Let's see some sources, feen. It is the Republicans who protested this sham of an event.
>and ended up being a gathering of like minded individuals of the right, it would appear Republicans historically do not tolerate the Right-Wing, let alone accommodate it.
>One county councillor is meaningless He is by far the most relevant individual who attended this event, and it is likely he will lose his seat over it.
Gabriel Jackson
>I don’t regard Ireland as a foreign country Well that cunt can fuck off that said that, if that is true at all. >A huge volume of them were from Britain I'd say it would attract some brits, of course, with Farage there and all. But how do you know it was "A huge volume" of them? Proof?
>What sort of Irish Nationalists aligns themselves with Farage, who was against the Good Friday Agreement? Do you even understand politics? Irish Nationalists who are Anti-EU for nationalist reasons. That's who. Why would they not align with him on this? >Oh look, Nigel the Imperialist is also for 'Irexit'! Well that does it! EU ALL THE WAY!
Noah Diaz
The organizer of the conference is Anthony Coughlan:
"He returned to Ireland and took up a job lecturing in Trinity College 1961. He became involved in the Wolfe Tone Society when it was set up in 1964 becoming acting as its secretary as well Dublin Housing Action Committees, both of which were heavily populated by members of the Republican Movement most of which evolved into Sinn Fein the Workers Party. The Wolfe Tone Society(WTS) campaigned for civil rights in Northern Ireland and supported the NICRA. Contributed articles to the United Irishman and Tuairsc the paper of the Wolfe Tone Society."
>Republicans historically do not tolerate the Right-Wing, let alone accommodate it.
You are suffering from a very narrow understanding of Irish Republicanism, it would seem. The Blueshirts were Irish republicans. The modern day Irish Republicans, who dominate the name are from the North. They are leftists for the obvious reason that the property in Northern Ireland is dominated by colonists.
>He is by far the most relevant individual who attended this event, and it is likely he will lose his seat over it.
Again, it depends on what you see this event as. Obviously, Nigel Farage was the biggest "figure" but he's not Irish. Coughlan is too old. The success is that it was on RTE, and will be in the press all weekend. Any discussion of the topics is a success, given the usual criticism in the media.
Nicholas Baker
>Councillor Charity Additionally, my understanding is he hopes to run for the European Parliament as part of the EFDD.
Henry Jenkins
Pump for justice.
Aaron Wilson
Irish Times desperately trying to name and shame members or the audience:
All journalists are liars, and will attempt to hurt you.
Nicholas Russell
>But how do you know it was "A huge volume" of them? Proof?
There are obviously not even official stats about how many people were there. Expecting an accurate breakdown of the Nationality of those in attendance is infantile. The info I have provided is all the info available. This event does not come with a Census.
>Irish Nationalists who are Anti-EU for nationalist reasons. As I've already said, the only prominent anti-EU individuals in 32 County Irish politics are those on the Far-Left. PBP campaigned for Brexit.
>Why would they not align with him on this? You align with him because you are West Brits.
>evolved into Sinn Fein the Workers Party
Many of those individuals turned into revisionists in the early 90s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_Party_of_Ireland#The_1992_split >In early 1992, following a failed attempt to change the organisation's constitution, six of the party's seven TDs, its MEP, numerous councillors and a significant minority of its membership broke off to form Democratic Left, a party which later merged with the Labour Party in 1999.
Many of the individuals who were prominent in the Worker's Party went on to be in charge of Labour's coalition with FG in 2011. Former membership of WP does not mean much in the current context.
>my understanding is he hopes to run for the European Parliament
If true, that is laughable. He doesn't stand a chance.
>Former membership of WP does not mean much in the current context.
The current context for you seems to be Eirigi and Sinn Fein, so. People from Republican Sinn Fein, Na Fianna Eireann, etc. are also anti-EU, and Republican.
Ryder Morgan
Stop responding to this communist neckbeard
Gavin Price
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon_Gilmore > towards the end of his term of office, he joined the UCG Republican Club which was affiliated to Official Sinn Féin; that party was subsequently renamed Sinn Féin – The Workers' Party, and later still became the Workers' Party. In recent years he has been accused of being evasive on the subject and of trying to play down that he had joined the Official Republican Movement; he has stated that the party "was in the process of becoming the Workers' Party at that time, I can't recall exactly the dates". >Gilmore was elected to Dún Laoghaire Borough Council, and also to Dublin County Council, on 22 June 1985. He was first elected to Dáil Éireann at the 1989 general election as a member of the Workers' Party for the constituency of Dún Laoghaire >After the collapse of the Soviet Union, he was linked with Proinsias De Rossa in attempting to jettison some of the Workers' Party's Marxist aspect and to move the party towards an acceptance of free-market economics. >The following day at an Ard Chomhairle meeting, Gilmore resigned from the Workers' Party and joined with Proinsias De Rossa and five other Workers' Party TDs to create a new political party, Democratic Left [...] In the 'Rainbow Coalition', between 1994 and 1997, Gilmore served as Minister of State at the Department of the Marine
Would you describe Eamon fucking Gilmore as a Far-Left Republican in this day and age? No.
Why should I accept some no-name called "Anthony Coughlan" as a Big Name, just because he belonged to the same party? The way the man acted 40 years ago has little relevance to how he acts now, just like Gilmore.
Yes, the real Left today is S-PBP and SF.
Ian Edwards
>There are obviously not even official stats about how many people were there. Expecting an accurate breakdown of the Nationality of those in attendance is infantile. No, claiming such things without any stats is infantile. You'd swear there was a breakdown on all the nationalities that attended judging by your rambling.
>As I've already said, the only prominent anti-EU individuals in 32 County Irish politics are those on the Far-Left. PBP campaigned for Brexit And now that's changed from here on.
>You align with him because you are West Brits. Really? And there i was thinking it was just the common ground we had with Anti-EU ideas.
Kid, stop embarrassing yourself.
Sebastian Richardson
Eamon Gilmore certainly has a lot to answer for, he may have been a sell out, but he certainly was a republicna. His "personal advisor" who's name escapes me was involved in numerous bank robberies.
>Why should I accept some no-name called "Anthony Coughlan" as a Big Name, just because he belonged to the same party? The way the man acted 40 years ago has little relevance to how he acts now, just like Gilmore.
I imagine you wouldn't accept anything as you are simply trying to derail the thread. Your logic is they aren't "nationalist enough". All whilst posting James Connolly, a Scottish born Internationalist.
Tyler Carter
Your own posting history shows that you replied to me, angry that I called you a West Brit
Christopher Cruz
Funny thing is, no one gives a shit here like they do in other countries so its safe enough even if they name and shame.
Hudson Stewart
It's a great hit job. The implication being it was just these lads, young, with implied "nothing to do". They also didn't interview any of the female guests(other than the speaker), as they did on RTE.
Easton Thomas
>t. Brits out blacks in
Owen Reed
>And now that's changed from here on.
Except for the fact that you are not prominent. You never will be either.
>Rabbitte became involved in electoral politics for the first time in 1985 when he was elected to Dublin County Council. At the 1989 general election he was elected to Dáil Éireann as a Workers' Party TD for Dublin South-West. He retained his seat at every election until 2016, first as a Workers' Party, then Democratic Left and finally a Labour Party TD.[3] >After the retirement as Party President of the Workers' Party by Tomás Mac Giolla in 1988, Rabbitte was seen as one of those who wanted to move the party away from its hard left position and alignment with the Soviet Union and international communist and workers' parties. He and some others who had come from the USI via the trade union movement were seen as wanting to bring the party more to the centre.[4] This led Rabbitte, Eamon Gilmore and others to earn the nickname "The Student Princes". In 1992 Rabbitte played a prominent role with Proinsias De Rossa in an attempt to jettison some of its more hard left positions. This eventually split the party.[5] >In 1994 a new Rainbow Coalition government of Fine Gael, the Labour Party and Democratic Left came to power. Rabbitte was a member of the junior ministerial team, serving as Minister of State to the Government, as well as Minister for State at the Department of Enterprise and Employment with responsibility for Commerce, Science and Technology >In October 2002 Rabbitte succeeded Ruairi Quinn as the new leader of the Labour Party. [...] Under Rabbitte the Labour Party agreed to enter a pre-election pact with Fine Gael >Rabbitte was appointed Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources after the 2011 general election.
Do you not see a pattern emerging here? Membership of the Worker's Party does not mean much in the current context.
Evan Hughes
> Except for the fact that you are not prominent. You never will be either. Oh we will :) And MUCH more prominent than commie fags too! You fuckers hardly even exist. You're angry because anti-EU support will no longer be perceived as just some insignificant pathetic commie fringe group because it will be overwhelmingly a nationalist movement from here on out.
Cry more faggot HAHAHAHAHAHA
Isaiah Brooks
Great conference today, felt strange to see such a strong gathering of Irish nationalists, numbers you wouldn't have seen since blueshirt rallies, really felt like we were apart of history today. Standing ovations and wild cheering for waters and others calling out the media, mass migration, saying Europeans no longer felt at home at Europe to rapturous applause was great. One even brought up George Soros at questioning. So many young people as well, great to see.
Andrew Smith
National Party will never win any seats because they have no potential base support, all of the major tendencies in Irish society are already represented in the Dáil and in Stormont. You wont see any new ones emerging.
The reason they wont win any seats is because Dublin never experienced an Industrial Revolution. When you look at FN in France, their highest support was in the North-East of the country. a post-industrial area of economic degradation. Look at the gains the Tories and UKIP made over Labour, largely in post-industrial urban areas. Look at Donald Trump winning the Rust Belt.
Ireland does not have an equivalent to these areas, the closest we have is actually the Loyalist working class of Belfast (and they'd obviously never vote for any nationalist party).
The best chance the party has is in the mid-sized towns of the Midlands which experienced industrial investment in the 50s and 60s, however these towns are too small to gain much support in and are largely already involved in the continuation of Civil War politics (a unique situation in Europe).
Their best chance of gaining a Council seat is in counties like Tipperary, Westmeath and Roscommon, However, the meagre post-industrial working class in these areas already vote left-wing. In Athlone and Mullingar, Labour is very popular. In Clonmel, they support Seamus Healy and the Workers and Unemployed Action Group. In Ballinasloe, a Sinn Féin candidate topped the poll in 2014. Furthermore, look at the failure of Renua. The population in the Republic just don't want something further to the right of Fine Gael.
This is why I would be very surprised if "the national party" win anything in the 2019 Local Elections..
Aaron Morgan
Yes, the Irish Left and especially Sinn Féin supports high immigration. This is why Befast City Council (run by SF) accepted the smallest amount of Syrian refugees of any large settlement in the UK.
Noah Brown
What are you posting this stupid dribble for?
The world and politics do not work the way your socialist paradigm would like it to work. That's why socialism fails time and time again.
Was not even talking about the NP. unrelated.
They still accepted them. If they did not support it T H E N T H E Y W O U L D N O T H A D A C C E P T E D A N Y A T A L L
Ethan Williams
socialism = shitholes i cant resist your endless trickery stop feeding us with shit i know who ye are
(((( )))
Brayden Mitchell
communist butchers = shit
leftyboy btfo
Hunter Davis
fight me cianigger
Chase Bell
The salt
Bentley Campbell
most people like trump
media = manipulative
the sun newspapers trumps pornstars articles is an example of leftist butthurt
Christian Williams
the leftist is full of shit
Lincoln King
Even my letsallholdhads cuck friend loves Trump
Ryder Walker
yup i get into a cucked class drop trumpbombs libs get btfo for 10 mins
Gabriel Russell
My response depends on what you actually want, which you do not specify. If you want a right-wing anti-EU party, this has no future. If you want a Referendum to leave the EU, this will never pass
rte.ie/news/2017/0509/873610-eu_poll/ >A new poll suggests that 88% of Irish people think Ireland should remain in the European Union [conducted by RedC]
324 Syrian Refugees in Belfast will absolutely destroy the city. The Metropolitan area has 671,559. The 62,056 suburban population of Newtownabbey is not even included in these statistics. What were they thinking?
Justin Fisher
>324 Syrian Refugees That's just refugees. An indicator of their stance on foreigners as a whole. Also it's well known how they shill for multi-culturalism\racialism. Yet another indicator.
Isaiah Mitchell
Keep in mind that this is a liberal disposition, endorsed by Neoliberal Centrists.Those on the Left reject such analysis. We are much happier calling you West Brits.
The individuals who participate in such discourse are removing the class aspect of the concept of Intersectionality. They are mostly women who grew up in wealthy households who support the Status Quo (much like the original Suffragettes).
They sit on their hands and point fingers at the perceived enemy (le white men, regardless of economic background). They convince themselves about "Upward Social Mobility", which effectively becomes a gender/ethnic-based game of Musical Chairs. Pic related.
We wholeheartedly reject placing blame on an individual's gender or ethnicity. We instead hope to advance the system as it began.
Nathaniel Sanchez
This is the guy who tried talking smack about antifa earlier in the thread, now he has nothing so he impotently posts this. Laughable.
Jaxson Watson
I'm sorry I didn't hang around outside, I would have liked to meet you and had an honest discussion. This insularity does no good.
Sebastian Nelson
I'm sure you were very warm and comfortable inside being 16 years old and wearing your MAGA hat.
I was not outside, I only found out about that group when I saw the pictures. They are not associated with any party, as far as I know. Such an honest discussion should be as rewarding as my instincts tell me it will.
Thomas Robinson
>Stalin >concern for hungry people Kek
Christopher Green
edgy soyboy leftist gets salty about antifa
lol.
Anthony Kelly
>Defending Antifa How cringey.
>Lol come on guyz lets go throw stuff at fascists and knock some wheelie bins over! We will soon have our utopia then lol!
