Fate

Is it even possible to win the Holy Grail War with Assassin?

Would pic related (i.e. an Assassin who learned every single technique every Assassin ever knew) be good enough to match up against Saber or Archer?

its completely possible, but no one ever uses assassin as an assassin

Just kill the Master. But considering most Holy Grail War participants are stuck up mages who want to flaunt their Servants in a flashy way, nobody goes for the obvious use for it.

It's very much possible if you use it right. Just look at Zouken in HF, he killed both Cu and Altria :^)

She can win against Archer but will get fucked by Saber since her "fighting" stats are pretty bad (as per Assassin class)

She can only win the war if she kills all the masters fast. Even then, once she does so, she better run her ass to the grail before Gil comes to kick her shit in.

How about King Hassan himself?

The problem is that every mage who uses assassin is mega ass retard. Only zouken used assassin effectively and even then he shafted him on the sidelines for his keikaku.

It's very possible to win using Assassin. You just have to use him/her AS AN ASSASSIN. Nobody every fucking does that. Just kill the master.

It's only possible to win if you have plot armor.

Not ordinarily summonable.

>an Assassin who learned every single technique every Assassin ever knew
This is broken as shit.

Most strange fake assassins are broken as shit. The entire war is about servants that can't be summoned by normal means and are OP as fuck.

*strange fake servants not assassins
There's only two assassins that appeared so far

Now that Apocrypha comes out you'll find out for yourself.

>The only right choice
Assassin class Mysterious Heroine X

"""Mysterious"""

This assassin dual wields the sword of promised victory, sure its not a saber .

Kirisugu could have won the grail with assassin

Wait, you actually saw through the masquerade? Are you a frickin' genius?

By not being retarded

>Presence Concealment meant Assassin was able to visit Shiro in HF to drop Zouken's message when Saber was in the next fucking room over and realized nothing

Just kill the masters when they sleep

Or use Assassin's infiltration tech and wait until some masters are in the middle of fighting and while they are occupied you break into their safe houses and trap/poison EVERYTHING

All you have to worry about is getting rid of Caster early before they turtle and get scrying up. And hope someone outright kills Archer for you or have a really good plan to keep hidden while you run out the Independent Action timer

But no, every fucking mage to summon Assassin is all "Yup lets make you fight one of the three knight classes, that will work FANTASTIC this time"

Assassin is the most tricky class in Fate since it's supposed to go after Masters, but usually it's Heroic Spirit will be pretty close by as well. If the match-up is good they can beat a Servant one on one like in HF, but that's not really their role.

Also you have to keep in mind that the HGW is not designed to be a fair fight. It's created in order to allow one of the big three families to complete the ritual. Assassin IS designed to be shit.

Only if he summoned his own Assassin heroic spirit, because his noble phantasm is plainly [teleports behind you - "nothing personnel kid" and proceeds to shoot magical gun in your back]

He was already doing the assassinating.

What he needed was a good Caster like Medea, he would've won in five minutes.

>Himitsucalibur (Secret Calibur)

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