The Cancer of American politics

I'm gonna do something unusual on this board and use the fallout of the Nunes memo to actually discuss politics for a moment.
I want to draw your attention to this cunt circled in pic related.

She is claiming that spying on people shouldn't matter if you have nothing to hide, a position once shared by Neocons during the Iraq war against anyone who criticized the NSA spying on American citizens.
I bring this up because this shows that this person doesn't care about the actual poolitical policy behind what she's saying.
She, like many others in this country simply treat their political affiliation like cheering for a goddamn sports team.
It's not left-wing brain washing like many here claim but the result of casual apathetic interest in politics and it is not exclusive to left wingers.

This is the Cancer that plagues American politics and the Cancer that plagues Democracy in general.

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>listening to a woman's opinion

I agree OP but effortposting on Sup Forums is a fool's game and your post is far beyond the optimal length to maximize (you)s

The true cancer of American politics.

Eh, I don't care if this thread dies quickly.
This is just something that's been on my mind and I've been noticing alot especially in the fallout of the Memo being released

I hate the "argument" of
>I don't have anything to hide!
What's next, allowing the government and private corporations to instal listening devices in our homes? Oh... Wait...

stfu faggot
>half the voting population thinks whatever celebrities tell them too
this is the part where reason and truth cease to matter, end stage democracy

>this is cancer
You answered youself

americans are largely too stupid to understand politics. let's be honest man, we're fucking slaves now. schools don't even teach reality-based math anymore. whores dancing on the jewbox grab most peoples attention. our food is all poison. we're done.

Q predicted this

FPBP

>not exclusive to left wingers
LOL that you don’t know that neocons aren’t, every single one of them, cryptomarxist trotskyite infiltrators.

Nah we're one economic crash away from rebirth

>This is the Cancer that plagues American politics and the Cancer that plagues Democracy in general.
You're taking this too seriously OP. This fight's not going to be won by focusing on individuals. You have to send a message to a people: the citizens of the U.S. We've delegated our thinking to MSM for so long that if they say that Trump is corrupt, we will believe them. It will take time to remove the poison from the veins of the public. It will take 8 years.
>She, like many others in this country simply treat their political affiliation like cheering for a goddamn sports team.
Yes. This is because we enjoyed unprecedented prosperity since WW2. There is no longer any incentive for people to actually think about public policy. It is now indeed a matter of who's side is winning rather than implementing the best policy. It's not her fault per se, but instead this is what happens when nations become prosperous - there is no longer any incentive for the citizenry to actually care.

We on Sup Forums are the outcasts, we're not the norm.

i don't disagree. but under the current paradigm, we're just a bunch of zombies.

>neoconservatives
>not radical marxists
oh brother.

>She, like many others in this country simply treat their political affiliation like cheering for a goddamn sports team.

We get it dude, it's a one party system working to preserve unelected officials in the deep state and Jewish corporate interests. The goddamn Bushes came out in the previous election to shill for Hill, but that didn't give anyone pause because people are retarded.

Democracy is a meme the sooner it dies that better.

Guess who predicted this. Dont know? ok. ill tell ya. it was Q. Q predicted this

Wasn't talking about the Neocons themselves. Was more talking about the "conservatives" who bend over backwards sucking Neocon dick.

Speaking of Neocon dick, the left is now praising McCain as a hero for wanting War with Russia and claiming the "terrible fascist memo" is a threat to democracy.

>You're taking this too seriously OP. This fight's not going to be won by focusing on individuals. You have to send a message to a people: the citizens of the U.S. We've delegated our thinking to MSM for so long that if they say that Trump is corrupt, we will believe them. It will take time to remove the poison from the veins of the public. It will take 8 years.
The fight is lost user. America will be a Chinese tributary state in 30 years.

this, if taxes dry up the gibs dry up. then then chimpout commences. it won't be violence or disease or anything similar that will bring about the great war. it will be the same cause as every other war, money. it's true that the average american right now is a slave. they love their comfy life and everything in their brain is straight from pop culture. they are devoid of any awareness of history or real culture and lack any motivation. but the crash will start it. we're in a huge bubble right now and it has to end eventually. the petro dollar is going to collapse.

My point is that there are no conservatives who support neoconservative anything/anyone. That is the old shibboleth, user. Learn it, live it.
One more thing: I would tell you the new shibboleth, but you don’t even know the old one.

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. You american nazi pedophiles have lots to fear.
DAY OF IMPEACHMENT
>intelligent lefty meme related

>you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide
I thought leftists hated Nazis...

Quit giving a shit about lemming politics then
It’s all fucking stupid and annoying

I voted for Trump but you should do us all a favor OP and kys.

>The fight is lost user.
The fight always goes on. I'm not saying this in a romantic fashion, but simply as a fact of evolution. When there is chaos, then those who naturally band together, and punish people for straying from the ideal survive and the decadent die out. When there is prosperity, then those who break the rules the most and become degenerate reap the highest rewards.

The fight between good vs evil is nothing but the fight between those who are evolutionarily designed to be disciplined and those who are evolutionarily designed to be impulsive and emotional.

It is no coincidence that all myths speak about the fight between the light and the dark. It is the game of life, it is the game of evolution, and the cycle will repeat no matter what we do.
>America will be a Chinese tributary state in 30 years.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion Mr. Snek. But it's easy to predict this won't happen.

Cuck mentality, feminism, liberalism.. it's all the same. These idiots would willingly give up every freedom they have to have drumph btfo'd.

>You may post ITT only if your health minister is under 140kg

NOT SO FAT BELGIUM AND QUEBEC

Yea, it's sad. I think most people have one or two pet issues, and pick the party that aligns with them on those. The rest is just trusting the authorities of the party on everything else.

I was talking to an older guy today. He's a good man, older Italian with gut-level love for our country.

I was trying to discuss the memo with him, and it didn't seem to register with him that much. He just said, "yea, they probably were spying" but didn't seem that upset.

What upset him was the Dems at the SOTU. He had a ton of disgust for the way they handled themselves there, and I agreed.

He's not dumb either, knows a ton about stocks and finance. I think a lot of people are just busy. The memo shit is such a rabbit hole that people tune out.

It just solidified why a guy I liked like Ron Paul wouldn't win. Virtue alone isn't enough. Marketing is so important.

You do realise you just replied to a thread instead of posting your own

>Cancer that plagues Democracy
It is the intention of democracy.
>oh no how did this kike system get subverted and lead to doom?!

You know we can see IDs right?

Every FISA Amendments Act Reauthorization Act had mainly Republicans voting for it and Democrats voting against it. Reap what you sow, GOP.

>illegally spying
>illegal
>illegal aliens

What part about illegal do they not get? It is not ok to spy on innocent people. The constitution makes this clear.

People need to abandon this sheep mentality that it's the governments job to protect them. This country was meant to be ruled by ranchers tending their flock until harvest.

can I get a qrd on (you) harvesting?

Was just thinking about this earlier. Liberals have essentially become the neocons now (neoliberal?). Over the last two days I think they’ve finally morphed into the last stage. I used to be a liberal, but after 2008 the cracks started to show. The Democratic Party that used to stand up to Bush essentially became it.

People hate to think and things are too complex for them to understand

They became Neocons over night. This is like goddamned September 12, 2001 all over again. Except this time, instead of being a child wondering why all of the adults suddenly lost their minds, I'm an adult wondering what the hell is wrong with half the people around me. They're shoving their fucking heads in the sand...

Get it?

CIA nigger right there. These fucking shills are going to destroy our country. Rigged elections, unelected Deep State control. Population too stupid to stand up for their rights. Makes me fucking sick.

My ex used to say this same shit as her all the time and then when she was cornered she'd say:
"I just assumed all my stuff is spied on already. You're the idiot if you thought otherwise"
>implying she's not the idiot admitting to self censoring herself and never questioning it

>be a democracy
>be surprised when the lowest common denominator act like indignant sports fans
See this is why the Enlightenment was a mistake

I can't understand people who think like this. Like, I can't understand their thought process at all. It's like they just go, "My side? WHATEVER GOES I DON'T GIVE A FUCK LOL."

If Page was such an idiot why did Trump have him on his team?

I'm really hoping the establishment in both parties gets purged by more radical elements (socialists, nationalists) so we can finally throw down and end this charade. I'm sick to death of the uniparty and the lemmings that follow them

i guess... but where do i stand to catch them tho?

Nah that's Canada. America will look a lot like Brazil

>The Democratic Party that used to stand up to Bush essentially became it.
Like with the Republicans, the Democrats are seeing growing backlash against the establishment kikes and (((progressives))) are going to replace them. This will really ramp up the identity politics

Page isn’t an idiot.

It's not hard to see where the political alliances have shifted.

>Obama Democrats = Globalist Socialist
>Bush Neocons = Globalist Crony-Capitalist
>Trump Paleocons = Nationalist Capitalist

only california will

It's surreal how leftists are all pro-state surveillance and patriot act now that the le EVIL DRUMPFT was spied on using that same apparatus. Also seeing all these leftists sucking the dick of Bush era neocons cock on twatter.

The last time this happened, 5,000 people died in an unprecedented terrorist attack that every American had a front row seat to. Two towers literally fell out of the sky. We all saw them turn into dust. This time it's a piece of paper. A piece of paper is making people lose their minds.

>The true cancer of American politics.
Women's opinions on politics are just the tumors generated by the disease that is Judaism.

You missed the point. It's not just women saying this. Look how easily people take their so called convictions and flip them if it means their team wins. I remember when it was characteristic of the left to be skeptical of the mammoth unaccountable police state, it was to the point of absurdity that lefties would bitch about the FBI. Now because some asshole on TV, paid to spout some bullshit opinion told them that the IC is some benevolent force that can't be questioned, they fall right in line. The left doesn't have convictions, the left believes in winning by any means necessary. Think of how advantageous it is to have an army of lemmings willing to take up any fashionable crusade. This is pop culture politics.

Why do you think Obama never arrested/condemned Bush? Why do you think Obama and Bush had the same policies? Its because they followed the same rubric. Whether you love him or hate him, Trump has broken that rubric. Which means that we might actually have different positions to vote for in the future.

>the left believes in winning by any means necessary

My mother is a dyed in the wool Democrat. She even worked for a Dem Senator back in the 90's.

During the 2016 election, my father complained to her about Hillary rigging the Democratic Primary. Guess what she said?

>If that's what it takes to put a woman in the White House...

That's cell phones. I guess it can't hurt to have redundancy though.

Yes and why is that, it is only women and soyboys who have been clapping and repeating whatever the funnyman on tv says for the past 20 years

Nobody seemed to notice that Donald Trump's best day with the press was the days he sent 48 cruise missiles into Syria.

I've said it since Snowden, when people said the same stupid lines. I don't hide anything in my ass, and I'm not for random cavity searches.

>This is the Cancer that plagues American politics and the Cancer that plagues Democracy in general.

being an uninformed, loud idiot is not confined to america, democracy, or politics

Soul crushing

Hillary desreved to win fuck trump he's a cuck, just like all of you. You can try to debate me but I already know you'll be scratching those pea brains of yours trying to counter my persuasive arguments so all you'll end up doing is calling me a cuck or a shill or whatever propaganda word you can come up with. I'm pretty a God among men and I'm more intellectual and sensitive than all of you, I get precognitive dreams, have had them since I was a boy, I'm gifted. I love Democrats because they believe in democracy which means freedom. Trump is an evil dictator who forgot to go to politic school and now he's trying to act like Mr macho and trying to police the world. He's an asshole and I hope he slips on a banana peel and breaks his nuts. America needs Hillary for 2020 because for God's sake it's the present day and we need change! We still treat women like it's the fifties and it needs to change I condemn all Trump voters to hell because they were brainwashed rural retards from holler squaller Arkansas living in their Mama's basement cleaning outhouses. I could totally take on Trump in a debate, he's a fucking moron and I'm a legit smart mother fucker with an act for the ladies. C'mon, debate me ya bastards! I'll show ya what I'm made of you fucking lunatics. Take your best shote because I'll just keep co!ing back up because I'm the widoe maker and I got a will of steel you sons of bitches wish you had.

One of the worst parts of democracy.
Read Democracy: The God That Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

>I have nothing to hide
>The FBUI is keeping us safe
From what exactly? Someone doesn't know how raciest the FBI head was and how they unconstitutionally imprisoned people who were black when they were expressing their rights.

Yeah anytime leftists are supporting the FBI and etc. you know its bullshit. This is old news user. The right wing is the security and order side not the left.

Fucking leaf. Go suck justin's cock and get ass raped by your growing muzzie population.

Literal cuck.

>falling for an obvious troll post
>posting with a commie meme flag
>inclusive communist hating muslims and using gay slurs

Neck yourself faggot. Communists are and will forever be, absolute human scum.

>here see my wife nude Mr FBI fapper

It's not something you can walk away from and be the same. I don't talk to my mother about politics anymore. My father still can't make sense of it.

Don't insult the FBI, they're hard-working people trying to keep your country safe.

Well if you have nothing to hide... Then why worry about if McCabe's testimony is gonna come out? Why worry about the Nunes memo at all? Surely if the FBI and Clinton have nothing to hide...

0/8 not g8 b8 m8

I swear to God if I see Trump one more time I'm gonna scream and puke my guys out. Fucking scumbag.

It's because of demoralization and ideological subversion since the 1960s. Video related. (everyone on pol should already know this vid. If not, watch it now faggot. )

youtu.be/y3qkf3bajd4?t=4132

Watashi desu kawaii (^^) the cancer of America is the Republican party. Just like how the cancer of Canada is our Republican party.

Yawn Republican propaganda

Trump sucks

We got a bot bois.

Required reading about women voting.

The "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" crowd don't understand the long game. It's about power control. Yes I don't really care personally if the FBI wants to take a look at my reddit upboats but if they can do it unchecked on every single american then that kind of power is too much for some schmucks in the fbi. The Dark Knights allusion to this was spot on.

Leftists are the most retarded in existence.

>the intelligence apparatus in the US had been lying to us since the the Kennedy assassination
>the FBI killed Americans, blackmailed presidents ans shut down dissident movements
>If you have nothing to hide...

I would unironically fuck those wojak Hillary's

Go figure. The winds of shit blew are blowing.

Knock knock.
(faggot leaf): Who's there?
Fuck off.

This, but unironically

There's a reason why only White men who owned land and paid taxes could vote initially.

There is nothing wrong here,no conspiracy no nothing. Let everyone live in peace ok?

Only dummies pay taxes, just keep the money all for yourself. Taxes don't do shit anyway.

Yeah its pretty fucking retarded and most people get extremely buttmad if you can prove that they've done this.

Not everyone is susceptible to this though. Other than the fact that I'm a little more open about racial biases these days I haven't changed a lot since the Bush years. I came of age in the early 2000s and the values I held then are the ones I still hold now, its just that the far right currently believes most of what I believe now instead of the left. It may change again someday, but it'd have to be a hell of a paradigm shift to make me ever trust those anti white fucks ever again.

It's frustrating as hell, but there were enough that "Bernouts voting for Trump" was a large enough phenomenon that it entered the election discourse.

This.

>point this out to every lefty I know
>"well if George W Bush is even against Trump, you KNOW he's bad!"

People will tell themselves anything to support their own narrative

I agree with you OP.

Some people are too stupid or ill intentioned and that's why democracy is a failure. That picture made me remember when I was talking to a friend about why guns do infinitely more good than harm and why we should take our gun rights back, when his stupid girlfriend (of course) just got up and said "What? Are you insane? Guns are not toys!"
I calmly replied "That's exactly why I want one, why would I want a toy to protect my life?"

This is the mental level of some people OP. "You can't have a gun because it's not a toy, you can't have privacy because you should have nothing to hide."
Democracy gives these kind of people power over you.

It was noticed. I forgot though. Thanks for the reminder.

Though he didn't really get a lot of love when the MOAB got dropped or ISIS lost their territory.

My personal opinion is that it's a tradeoff that many citizens aren't aware of. Also, the majority of citizens are too stupid to process the concept of juggling security at the expense of liberty and privacy.

I'm middle-of-the-road about the whole ordeal. On one hand, it's huge overreach by the government to collect this information and you have to put a lot of trust into the State to use it judiciously and not flagrantly. On the other, the security it provides is tantamount to the experience of the "American Dream". To enjoy the pleasures of freedom, one must be free to live. If I have to worry about what I say, not because of censure by the government but because a group of hajiniggers are going to drive a busload of explosives into the building I work at because I said something that upsets them.

I have no strong feelings one way or the other. Either side has merit.