What are your genuine thoughts on this character?

What are your genuine thoughts on this character?

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He fucking deserves some goddamn peace.

Why not put that pressure point stuff to real use and open a massage parlor?

I respect him for valuing human life while living in such a shithole. I find the tears he sheds to be appropriate and manlier than anything I am capable of.

I also found Roah and Toki to be fucking amazing characters.

I love unbeatable mcs like Kenshiro or Goku. Too bad there's not much of this old classy type. Somehow people think it's boring and dipshits like Deku or Eren are in favor. Pathetic.

OPM was popular so we might have more in future

That the only reason he's not the best character in his anime is because Raoh and arguably Toki were there. Kenshiro is awesome. But Raoh is beyond awesome.

My favourite JoJo.

Just watch some generic LN adaptation, full of Mary Sue MCs.

He's a nice middle finger to edgelords and teenage moral relativists everywhere.

his uncle was cooler

That was basically what Toki was going to do until World War 3 fucked things up.

Pussy

He was great. Suffered a lot but he used to experiences to become a better person rather than bitch and moan about it. The only thing I didn't like about Fist of the North Star was that he was destined to be the successor when it rightfully should have been Toki (or Raoh). And as good a character he is, in the story a lot of the other characters are more appealing. I liked Toki, Raoh, Shuu, Souther, Fuudo and Juuza more than him.

Fist of the North Star is still the best manga ever made.

>He's a nice middle finger to edgelords and teenage moral relativists everywhere.
Fucking how? Toki had far superior morals to Kenshiro, and Raoh accomplished far more than Kenshiro.

If anything the manga shows how goodness isn't accomplished by one man, but by society, and what truly matters is that people chose to do the right thing at the right moment.

>Goku
>unbeatable

Jesus christ

I still don't understand why the fuck the author had to write that shitty part 2 which retconned Raoh's origins and fucking introduced black magic

I don't remember it in detail anymore. How was it? Did Yuria chose him because he was destined by the stars, so her choice was destined as well? Or did he become the destined once because it all depended on Yuria's free will?
Could she have chosen either Raoh or Toki if she felt inclined to, or was her choice also subjected to destiny?

I think he's an irreplicable relic of a forever bygone era in which a man could be so perfect and stereotypically badass is such an egregious fashion, not at all played for comedy or in a parodic manner but played straight without a hint of irony and yet despite that still managing to be so fucking cool it hurts just trying to describe it.

He has little in the way of depth or complexity as far as the core of his character is concerned, but that only serves to make him more awesome in the aforementioned regard. He's simple and straightforward, what the urban youth these days refer to a "real-ass nigga" who wears it all on his sleeve not out of arrogance but because he's that genuine. It shows the most in how compassionate and caring yet brutal and merciless he can be, how he isn't even the slightest bit ashamed to show his rage when angered and his tears when heartbroken.

He is the quintessential distilled essence of man in a series full of men who exemplify some of the most iconic aspects of sheer undeniable masculinity and that's what I think makes him such a great main character.

I stood up and applauded. Nicely put, user.

He is fucking great.

>scum criminals
>Kenshiro:I struck the secret point known as "you are fucked". Your testicles will implode in 3 seconds and you will die by blood loss in 10.

Much better than:

>scum criminals
>Faggot hero: killing is bad! Yes, he rape babies, poisoned an entire school and eat other people face. But if I kill him, I will be like him.

Not that hard to understand, like with a lot of popular series the author is pressed by the publisher to continue.

HNK thread? Nice. Seeing that I have all you here, let me ask you all a question. Who is your favorite HNK character?

Mine is Rei. I use him in every HNK game he is in too.

Role model.

I like Shin. I think his motivations are very reasonable he still deserved the ass-kicking for trying to cuck Kenshiro and I like the fact that his Nanto Koshu Ken style isn't very gimmicky.

I love Juuza

>Did Yuria chose him because he was destined by the stars
Essentially this. For me, Fist of the North Star really hammered home the fact that a man can never escape his fate. I don't think there's a single person who doesn't agree that Toki should have been the true successor, he has essentially every quality Kenshiro has and was considered a much better fighter, but it wasn't meant to be so it wouldn't ever happen. I respect Raoh for being bold enough to try and conquer the heavens and make his own fate.

Shuu. He was based throughout the whol length of his life and his death kills me the most.
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Why was all the voice acting in Fist of the North Star so perfect.

Raoh.

Specifically, dying Raoh.

Because he doesn't care about what teenagers like that obsess over. You're a good person? He helps you. You trample on others? You get mercilessly punished for it. No middle-school wannabe-philosoper "m-muh moral relativism" drivel, no "if you kill him you'll be just like him" bullshit. He is Good, but assertive and proactive, and neither weak nor soft.

So? That's still Kenshiro's own personal morality compass. If you want to talk shit about moral relativism, Kenshiro is a very bad example, because Toki's personal morality was FAR FAR FAR superior to Kenshiro's.

Toki was a legend in his own way, but Kenshiro was more proactive and merciless in his enforcement of justice. There's no moral relativism involved.

I suspect Toki was only not proactive because he actively dying all the time to be fair.

Could be that, could be his more gentle nature. I'm not blaming him for anything, of course, he's an amazing person. Just saying that they're different.

I honestly don't expect what people wanted out of Kenshiro.

He lives in a post-apocalyptic world where motorcycle gangs run amok killing and raping people trying to survive, and a bunch of warlords with martial artist powers are trying to take over the world. There's hardly any food, there's hardly any water, and fuck if anyone even remembers what electricity is anymore. Letting these gangs run wild could spell the end for humanity.

This is a world where literally "Only the Strong Survive"

Hell, he met up with his "best friend", and was answered by having his tendons severed, and being stabbed in the chest seven times, having his girlfriend stolen from him and left to die in the desert. All because he didn't really want to beat up his friend back then.

He's doing the best he can under these circumstances.
I'm more annoyed by the fact that Yuria ends up being the fucking center of the universe than anything. She goes from just Kenshiro's girlfriend to super secretly being in everyone else's backstories and showing so much strength and resilience to that it touched so many souls with how pure she is!

Jesus Christ, even Raoh "The King of Fists" ends up falling in love with her! Go home with that!

Mamiya is best girl.

Kenshiro's the kind of character you admire, but would never want to be.

Raoh did Rei dirty.
I guess you can't live if you're Kenshiro's age and his friend.

While I didn't like the post-Raoh follow-up much to start with, it grew on me, and there were parts I genuinely liked, such as the story-arc with the king and his 3 dickhead sons

damn, Souther really looks like he's enjoying himself there

I want to transfer him into Berserk's world.

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I liked his uncle more

Toki was too compassionate for his own good, he would never have grown into the kind of fighter Kenshiro did, cancer or no cancer. He slaughtered nameless mooks withthe best of them, but when push came to shove, Kenshiro had the resolve to put hiw older brother down and Toki didn't.

Best JoJo

Fuck off, if Toki hadn't gotten the radiation sickness, none of the shit would have happened, Toki would just have given all the villains peace of mind by killing them out of love.

Goddamn, what part of Toki being better than everyone in every way did you not understand?

How do I watch this? Manga or Anime?

Kenshiro got his shit kicked in pretty often though. He would eventually come out on top, of course, but not without some losses.

He took some of the pre-established good old shounen tropes and changed the media in his own way
He and Joe, even as different as they are, they show what a Shounen MC should aspire to be being lawfull or chaotic good with their humble origin and being some sort of delinquent with a heart of gold

Toki was the original ninja jesus we all love and admire

Feel bad for the poor bastard.

Was a very nice guy, somewhat of a pacifist who never enjoyed killing and just wanted to love Yuria for as long as she could, but it was his goddamn fate to slaughter thugs and unite the wasteland inorder to restore peace. So he did it was a stone face and a stone heart.

Occasionally withholding those emotions would bring him to tears.

Atleast he got Yuria for a few years after the whole Roah thing before she died to the radiation or poison shit she got.

Both are pretty good on their own but I prefer manga, no filler and straight to the point

Kenshiro is just as unbeatable as Luffy (the protagonist of what is currently the most popular ongoing series by a huge margin), the only difference is he's got a brain so really nothing's changed that much

Kenshiro may as well be branded in his own world.

I don't know if I agree with that, Toki knew that he would have to fight Raoh one day. I would say it's his sickness which caused him to lose rather than a lack of resolve.

Manga first, then watch the anime and skip the billions of filler eps. The anime has an oustanding OST and voice acting.

I don't know about pretty often, he lost clean to Shin and Souther, sort of fought Raoh to a draw twice before the very last fight but apart from those he beat everyone resoundingly.

>Why are you making a grave for someone you hate?
>Because he loved the same woman I do
The feels.

He lost to Shin and Shu in flashbacks. Souther was pretty much his only legit defeat, and it was still because of the mirrored heart confusion than Souther being stronger.

He got solidly whupped by Kaioh the first time they fought.

>inb4 HnK2 doesn't count

How much sorrow can one man hold? I thought it was super dumb how Raoh learned Muso Tensei just like that, when Kenshiro had to be practically dying inside yet still holding it together.

What did you guys think of HnK2 in comparison to the first?

How would you feel about Kenshiro if he gained joy out of torturing mooks and opponents that do not deserve respect? I guess Kenshiro can already be seen as having a torturous streak, but I see it more as karmic justice.

Nothing else changes. He still cares for the weak, protects the innocent, longs for peace, can see the good in villains driven by (wrong) conviction.
Kenshiro now just causes mooks to slowly die in intense pain because he likes it.

How does affect your opinion of him?

Greetings from /tg/, I am totally not going to use this for a character or anything.

I'm no moralfag but he was a pretty cool guy. Would follow him/10

Manga because it's just really well done and has more gore, Anime for the OST and overall 80's goodness.

That would make him chaotic good, just do it, those kinds are just really fun to play.

3edgy5me
"I cut myself and bashed my puppy's head in because my mom died" Kaioh is all the edgy HnK needs.

I'm an edgy faggot myself so my opinion on it wouldn't be considered valid by most, but I don't see any major problem.

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underrated kek

The only amazing thing that came out of it was the anime adaptation's opening. Otherwise it is at the same time better than many Shounen can even aspire to be, but utter shit compared to the first part.

>How would you feel about Kenshiro if he gained joy out of torturing mooks and opponents that do not deserve respect?

He doesnt need to do that kinda of shit. An opponent who does not deserve respect is simply forgotten without any tear shed, just like jagi. And that's enough.

PAAPL ICE KIMO WO

Agree

Kenshiro is a real good character, he's brutal but a good person, overpowered but still cool, tragic but straightforward, theres no "i won't kill you because killing is bad" no he's an eye for an eye person, if you kill someone who doesn't deserve to die, you're fucking dead, he'll hunt you down and will make you die in a brutal and painful way, he helps the weak because he's a good person, he's just awesome and a good example of a well written overpowered character, no arrogance or ignorance to his power, he knows exactly what he is and he keeps on traveling around because there are still baddies to kill and people to save

Great character but Raoh and Toki are even better.
Raoh > Toki > Ken > Rei > Power Gap > the rest as you see fit

Kenshiro was the third strongest in the series.

>Raoh
HnK2 makes it explicitly clear that Raoh's bloodline was the true destined one and only got cucked because of Ryuo's mother was a cowardly cunt.

>I respect Raoh for being bold enough to try and conquer the heavens and make his own fate.
He technically, in terms of pure facts, did.
He was actually better fighter than Kenshiro, knew more techniques and once he unlocked Musou Tensei, he was just flat out superior to Kenshiro.
He only lost because he gave his energy to Yuria and was fighting in drastically weakened state, and even then Kenshiro didn't kill him and Raoh could've stayed alive if he so wanted.

Go back to Toki's childhood where he wrecks that poacher and has to be stopped by Ryuken from obliterating the guy.
And then again after his village gets hacked he goes into pure fucking rage as well.
Toki is perfectly capable of dealing merciless justice, he just has different moral compass than Kenshiro that's arguably better because Toki deals lesser punishment for lesser crimes and more severe for appropriately severe ones.
Kenshiro kills even thieves that didn't kil anyone.

>Mamiya is best girl.
Man of taste.
Mamiya is the hotter redhead of the two also.

See

>I would say it's his sickness which caused him to lose rather than a lack of resolve.
Raoh pretty much says that if Toki wasn't sick and was fighting at the peak of his Soft Fist Style, he'd most likely wreck him.

He's a good man. I wish I could have grown up to be like him.

In the post apocalypse I'd just be one of those civilians that gets buried in the ground up to their neck and driven over by a thresher while a punk laughs about it

It felt like the series went from shounen-seinen to shounen-shounen if you know what I mean.

That movie butchered the story so fucking hard but damn it was pretty, had 10/10 soundtrack and the ending hits all the fucking feels where you think Kenshiro finally finds a green land and then it turns out it was all just a phantom and Ken is still dying inside.

Ora

Guts is a cool guy eh kills apostles and doesnt afraid of anything.

Retarded shitposter

Kenshiro saving innocents is his goal

Guts doesn't give a shit

They're nothing alike

He has a broader range of emotions than I expected.
MCs in shonen are usually outshined by the comprimaries, here is the same.
But unlike many other MCs, Kenshiro holds well because his interaction with the comprimaries holds well still these days.

The inner point of FOTNS is not if Julia will be saved or if the human race will survive, and not even if good will ultimately prevail. It's all about how Kenshiro and the main comprimaries interact, how they grow, how they settle their issues.

Unlike many shonen MCs, Kenshiro DOES NOT try to change his enemies. If they want he'll be glad to help, but it's not there for that. Fotns is more about destiny and acceptance, like points out

>hnk thread in the midst of all this anime expo shit

Got that Fight was fucking emotionally intense. That exact frame right there and Roah breaking down crying right after. That shit is great.

Any scans of the master editions? I want to read the manga since the anime is old and outdated

He is the standard to which all others shall be measured and all found wanting.

Kenshiro's tragedy is a symbol of the human condition. He is a good man trying to find his place in an unjust world. He is one of the most pure representations of masculinity in any medium.