Devs Feb 4 >Sy Gov:US claims on CW always coincide with efforts to to bring peace in Sy.US partners on the ground are terrorists who commit crimes to justify US interference >SE Idlib:HTS start offensive on SAA positions >Idlib:RUAF kill 85+ jihadists. SAA halts Idlib op to focus on NE Hama >NE Hama:SAA liberates Umm Kharizatan,Samiriyah,Judaydah >E Ghouta:HTS claim it repelled SAA attack on Irbin >Afrin:TFSA captured Kharouz town, Kharouz mountain & Haj Bilal town. YPG claims it repelled TFSA attack in Blikah&Shakwarzi villages >Downed Su-25 pilot died fighting militants, blew himself up with a grenade to avoid being captured >Human Rights Watch:Turkish border guards shoot, fleeing Syrian asylum seekers. Turkey denied >E Syria:IS-held Al-Bahra village enter 1 month of clashes with SDF. IS claims USAF killed 38 civis Saturday >FSA arrested the commander of one of their brigades in the Daraa for participating in Sochi peace talks >Erdogan: Turkish offensive in Afrin “nearly complete” Yemen >Houthi snipers kill 7 Saudi Army soldiers along the Yemeni-Saudi border >Saudi AF conducts 12 airstrikes targeting Houthis convoys in N prov of Saada(Feb3), destroyed 25 Houthi positions in NW prov of Hajjah
FamiliaNewsReports from previous >FOUR INDIAN SOLIDERS AND ONE PAKISTANI CIVILIAN KILLED BY SHELLINGS IN KASHMIR
>IRAN'S PRESIDENTIAL GUARD WOUNDS AND CAPTURES MAN ARMED WITH LARGE BLADE, TRYING TO ENTER COMPOUND
>ARMENIA VIOLATES CEASEFIRE ONCE AGAIN
>INCUMBENT PRESIDENT DEFEATS COMMUNIST IN CYPRIOT ELECTION
>TWO SOLDIERS AND FOUR CIVILIANS KILLED BY LOCAL AL-QAEDA AFFILIATE IN SEPERATE ATTACKS IN MALI
>MALDIVES CRISIS CONTINUES AS GOVERNMENT DEFIES SUPREME COURT
>BREAKING: GEORGIAN EX-PRESIDENT SAAKASHVILI, TURNED UKRANIAN GOVERNOR & OPPOSITION LEADER COULD FACE EXTRADITION TO GEORGIA AFTER LOSING UKRAINIAN COURT APPEAL >AZERBAIJANI CALLS SNAP ELECTION IN APRIL TO QUELL OPPOSITION
G'night lads. Enjoy the gains. More reports soon. I'll make a place to keep the FNRs tomorrow for those who asked. When Ebin comes on, if someone could post all his shitmaps and ask if he's done the Donbass one, that'd be much appreciated.
Lucas Gutierrez
death to Israel
John Garcia
if someone could ask him to post*
Jaxon Rogers
G'night familia.
Colton Russell
these death to america posts always remind me of that old Letterman sketch.
They played some video of Bin Laden giving a speech on a microphone. At the end Bin Laden always put the mic down and picks it back up to say one more thing.
Of course the sketch was always him talking about something ridiculous like baseball or something. Then at the end he always picks the mic back up and says "Oh, and death to America".
Mason Sullivan
Night.
Asher Green
>Then at the end he always picks the mic back up and says "Oh, and death to America" Wew. Is it on jewtube?
Lincoln Miller
sleep tight pal
Gavin Cruz
thank you vlad
Jonathan Allen
thank you Vlad, thank you Assad!
Hudson Murphy
>Tabqa dam Damn, I didnt think about that yet. Well im not an expert, just trying to estimate from what ive heard like you. Cant imagine him to plow right down to that dam though as neither the local population nor his neighboors would want him to put up a border there. Looking at the situation in Israel, a state that would also like to annex neighbooring hostile territory very much, I dont think the turks will take big swipes of land outside of what the desperate FSA manages to defend, but rather try to nibble at it over time and do what the israelis call "cutting the grass" in the meantime-holding enemy territory for a short while just to bomb it to shit, kill some of the youth in arms and then retreat again until the next greater conflict justifies permanent annexation of another piece of land again.
reee am again to slow and get with the bread.
Hudson Campbell
sounds like classic Memri
Charles Thomas
Nah I have looked for it for years and can't find it. Seems they have been taken down.
I can find only one audio clip which I'll link. On the video, he puts the mic down after wishing luck to "the little lady" then picks it back up because he forgot to say death to america
if what we say is right Syria will basically be a turkish puppet if they expand so much Turkey gets the tabqa dam and the kurd territories, maybe in exchange for free Israeli movement on Syrian area Maybe they're trying to establish Syria as a buffer zone between Turkey-Israel-Saudi axis against Iran?
Luke Lee
Why would Turkey side with Israel and Saudia Arabia?
Michael Myers
Link?
Hunter Jackson
Oh wait, nvm, just saw
Christian Price
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Adam Gray
Weird times make weird allies, everybody of them would gain from getting Iran out of the game, right? I mean Israel and Arabia would surely pop up champagne if Iran gets cucked. As far as we know Turks offered help in exchange of closing an eye towards their ambition against kurds Besides Turkey in this moment has diplomatic issues both with Russia and with Europe, considering the immense asset that's the tigris euphrates basin it would only be natural for them to keep an eye on the south, I guess
Jose Martinez
Eternal reminder to ignore Turkish and Ukrainian proxies that are trying to change opinions and modify behaviours.
Ayden Russell
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Cooper Turner
Yet America supported coup attempts against Erdogan.
I think Turkey has to balance EU ties with Russia. It can afford to sever US ties.
Ayden Russell
>First-ever visual confirmation, #Russia's An-72 are now aiding #Iran's C-130 to resupply #Fuah and #Kefraya from the air.
>Coup Not only that, the US is actively fucking over Turkey with the kurds.
Parker Brooks
>Yet America supported coup attempts against Erdogan. I've heard this from a lot of people. Makes sense considering Gulen being an important CIA asset, but is there any solid evidence of this besides just a hunch of yours? The USA having desire to supplant Erdocuck could be a great thing for Turkey's fading democracy if he's replaced with a Gulenist/Kemalist.
Jeremiah Adams
There you go. US pushing Turkey straight into Russian arms.
Turkey's ties with the Brotherhood and Sunnis is what prevents them from doing deals with Iran and Assad but the Kurd issue is what will really focus their mind. They cannot do this without Syria and Iran.
Cooper Russell
>unironically shilling for (((democracy)) boomer pls
Jose Wilson
Gulenists are mostly purged and Kemalists were a dying breed before the purges from what I remember.
Jose Gutierrez
Well Gulen is key and it is no surprise HIS acolytes led the deep state factional rebellion and he was BASED in the US.
Any turk Anons want to enlighten us?
Erdogan may be a knobhead, but at least he won't sell Turkey out to the US>
Kayden Jones
My guess it's that he's aiming at an alliance of pure convenience, probably not even an official thing. Justk now this: today Erdogan is in Italy to speak with the pope (first time in 50 years a turkish president does this) and then with our PM for possible acceptance in Europe. Coincidentially he also said to have claims on FSA held lands. The feeling is that he knows he has many things he can do and is trying to recon the territory in all direction to eventually pick the best thing to do >They cannot do this without Syria and Iran. What do you mean?
Brandon Perez
Kurds are a pawn in a greater game. They're the only way to weaken and balkanize Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria simultaneously. They'll be at the forefront of Jihadism by the time ISIS is non-existent.
Gabriel White
What is the reaction in Russia?
Leo Baker
>save democracy with coup, something that destroys democracy to begin with i know americans arent brightest people on earth but god damn man.
Anthony Green
What is the difference betweeen Gulenists Kemalists and Erdoganites?
Logan Adams
Anyone else here PISSED about the situation in idlib ? Tigers could have taken so much landmass but they were stopped because of background politics.
Isaac Moore
BASED Roberto Baggio user
Agreed about Erdogan keeping options open across the table.
>What do you mean? He can't deal with the his Kurd issues without Iraq, Syria and Iran's help.
Nathan Jones
>the wretched monster of the world JewSA slowly stretches its scaly arms out yet again, its claws grasping at another foreign country, as it mutters about "democracy"
Matthew Wilson
>wants the most secular Muslim country to become a sultanate in your lifetime Are you on crack? A lot of gulenists have sought and were granted asylum in Greece. Another coup happening anytime soon is really unlikely.
Nolan Johnson
explain please, not aware of anything like that
Noah Jackson
Very true. They deserve and should have had their own state. They didn't get it. This is being manipulated and will be used by the US and other powers as a pawn.
Eli Evans
I'm guessing current government's acceptance.
Blake Martin
go away libtard this isn't leftypol
Hunter Evans
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Caleb Rivera
Really pissed considering HTS dominates the area, it makes no sense.
Luke Bennett
But ideologically how are they different?
Blake Bell
that's a ah AHAHAAHAHAHA spicy meme
Blake Howard
bunch of idiots stuck with 50 to 100 year old ideals, all of them.
logic should dictate one's actions, not some supposedly ideals of an old guy.
Charles Morris
Of course they are. They are no less than an army in the middle of the hottest place on earth r/n and easy as fuck to buy with promises of land, which they're (literally) dying for History suggests that by keeping on exploiting them like this kurds might be the al-qaeda of the future >Roberto Baggio fucking BASED indeed
Adam Scott
check ivan sidorenko's twitter
Matthew White
Erdogan is sunni ottoman dream, isn't he. Kemalists would go for a more inward focused secular Turkey and Gulenists would be more liberal option? I only got the surface of those though, so better ask a Turk.
Josiah Peterson
Yes Turk user. Can you redpill us on Turk summary of these groups and anything else we non-Turks should be aware of? Please.
Brody Walker
okay. you should stop posting right now.
why are you all so eager about writing about stuff without having 0 (zero, null) information about it apriori.
wow man, this is definetaly the age of the average joe.
Jaxon Morris
Background politics are integral to end war scenarios. If the foreign backing towards the rebellion is to be stamped out there need to be some concessions unfortunately.
Logan Garcia
Enlighten us >Also, your lot banned the printing press thereby retarding Islamic development for centuries so technically you are responsible for the age of the average joe.
Wyatt Davis
proper kemalism = civic nationalism + some pragmatizm + social democracy
gulenism = sunni version of iran
erdomeme = gulenism with different name + pragmatism
Gabriel Baker
This is a new cult
Justin Perez
Didn't realize shilling for Islamists was acceptable nowadays on Sup Forums. Kys, erdoshill.
Benjamin Hill
Please elaborate then, this is the gist of what I've gathered from the Turkish anons. Hence I hoped for an actual Turk to clarify, point out misconceptions and generally fix the shallow understanding of how it goes.
Angel Kelly
>Soviet rustbucket SU-25 shot down by a Soviet manpad operated by salafist monkeys >Soviet rustbucket SU-24 shot down by cockroach operated monkey model F-16
Why is Russia so pathetic? The US air force has 0 air casualties.
Oliver Smith
>0 air casualties meme
Aaron Scott
So many blackpills are getting dropped recently.
Connor Smith
This is one of the best-drawn mangos out there, makes me want to pay for the physical copies if I had the money
Leo Howard
>gulenism = sunni version of iran Then I was absolutely wrong. Guess I read too much into Gulen's religion coexistence and ecumeny ideas. Are those a thing of the past or just never happened?
Landon Scott
It was most definitely the Saudis who supported Gulen, since Qatar and Turkey are against the Saudis in their own little proxy war
Ryder Hall
you dont even know what is "age of average joe" is.
it is, common people, because of having access to a medium of spreading his ideas and thoughts to masses (such as internet), writing whatever the dumbfuck idea he has and shares it with people, WITHOUT doing an apriori search on the matter he is writing.
/sg/ posters literally has no difference than idiot twitter / tumblr people in general. everyone here is a political genius, general, soldier, tactician etc. at the same time.
>coexistence and ecumeny ideas what is taqiyya right?
>oh boy we are just into coexistence we definetely arent trying to infiltrate your juridical system, your army and your police force, its just peaceful sunni sufism senpai come on. also dont mind that i live in a CIA protected mansion in USA because why would USA protect a peaceful coexistence supporter imam with CIA right?
yeah, totally nothing is fishy here.
Logan Turner
Was ataturk a jew?
Nolan Wright
>/sg/ posters literally has no difference than idiot twitter / tumblr people in general. everyone here is a political genius, general, soldier, tactician
I will nuke the ignorance out of you >Well said tbf Turk user
gulenism literally wants sunni theocracy in turkey, with gulen at its head, no one else. its just another scientology with much more ambitious plans.
he and erdomeme were best buddies until 2012, when they started to slowly fight. maybe gulen wanted more power, maybe erdomeme finally realized giving all military, police and juridical system to gulen was a fucking stupid idea. who knows.
Connor Brooks
Kurds are the worst type of gypsies. Syria takes in Kurds after they're BTFO by Turks and a few decades later they're pointing their iron sights at Syrian Arabs. They claim land that they, as nomads, aren't entitled to in the slightest. Well, instead of bloviating you should actually try to make cogent points else you're nothing but a shill.
Ayden Sanchez
Mexicans love Dragon Ball and other fighting anime. I dunno why, maybe it has to do with a warrior culture or something. American blacks are also really into Dragon Ball.
Isaac Rivera
In Syria dumbfuck. If I want to show a list of Soviet rustbuckets getting BTFO in modern history it'll be a long list.
Henry Russell
>Iran-backed militias in Al-Khader are heavily bombing Turkish troops in al-Eis, SE Aleppo. Turkey is firing back with surface-to-surface MRL rockets.
Robert Murphy
>Iran-backed milita shells the new outpost of TSK in Idlib, TSK retaliates
Albanian-Turkish, according to most non-Turkish historians. He wasn't a kike.
Ian Hernandez
i answered your question now you resort to this pathetic evasion
Parker Campbell
>No arguments >hehe you cockhole haha I'm so smart
Oтличнaя шyткa пидopaшкa
Levi Cruz
>8 Long range missiles from the Syrian Turkish border on the government's positions in the Shoudeleh area south of Aleppo.
Mason Walker
(You)DEN RAUS!!
Colton Turner
That's what I also believe. The post I linked was written by an anglo fascist, and his source "How Odd of God" gives no source for their claim either.
Brody Lee
iranians and turks exchanging
Grayson Rogers
That's Iran negotiating with Turkey, just let it be.
Noah Rivera
i thought this was a mutt meme at first
Juan Bennett
You're a fucking brainlet when the context is in Syria only, retard. This is after all /sg/ and not /balkan/ idiot. Now fucking show me a USAF aircraft getting shot down in Syria. You can't. The Russians on the other hand are getting shot down by T*rks and monkeys.
Landon Hall
Thank you BASED Hakan Sukur user Any good books on this?
Justin Brown
its time to aid fair people of afrin and then liberate them and crush ottoman dreams
Connor Torres
Why were Kemalists so willing to fight a Gulenist inspired coup if their goals and interests didn't align at all?
