Trump managing to get utterly BTFO by sandal-wearing Corbyn

>Trump managing to get utterly BTFO by sandal-wearing Corbyn

[chortling]

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But how is he wrong? They're marching because it has no fucking money

it has no money because of all the leeches

So? He could manage to get BTFO by a five year, this isn't news.

>healthcare is a human right

[Citation needed]

They're both right though. They are marching because they 'love the nhs' and the nhs is collapsing. But the nhs is collapsing because no matter how much money we through at it (roughly a fifth of the budget) the level of service it provides is untenable at our current wealth.

Trump is obviously trying to frame it as "Brits are marching because universal healthcare as a concept is broken", when we both know in reality people marched yesterday because the NHS is a fucking brilliant idea that has been sorely underfunded in recent years, leeches or not.

>Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
>lol you thought Life meant health? naw I meant that you get to be born, after that you can fucking die in a fire after that for all we care

>health care, a human right
>no right to free speech, personal responsibility, representation, due process, etc, etc.

what is wrong with bongs? i can't tell who i hate more, the labour party or the tories. both are good at raising blood pressure.

>the level of service it provides is untenable at our current wealth

Might have something to do with the 250k+ net migration we have a year laddie. Giving a quarter of a million more people a year healthcare is quite a fucking lot of money.

but you have to have
>money
>technology
>highly trained and educated people

to have "free" healthcare. that is essentially saying you don't have liberty, since the government has to take large amounts of your money, your patents, your ideas, and your professionals, and hold them hostage for some nebulous concept of 'fairness.'

Health is not the same as healthcare. To have a right to 'care' requires trampling the rights of someone else

>We should give health Care to everyone because then we will run out of money for the life,liberty pursuit of happiness!

You do know how retarded you sound right?

Pretty much. If you die in a fire it's your fault for not having working smoke alarms or for being associated with the type of shitbags that would commit arson.

This is like if Stephen Harper got BTFO by Bernie Sanders.

>life means the government provides you with free healthcare
That explains why the founders nationalized healthcare right after the Constitution was written.

>that is essentially saying you don't have liberty
That's fucking stupid!

But propping up the longevity of consumers and the creation of jihadists is a human right not a factor to be considered.

Ultimately though, you guys spend more in taxes than basically everyone per person on healthcare, and then on top of that your personal insurance premium, which might not even cover all of your bills should you get sick.

It's a lot of money for a service that is middling-to-bad compared to other developed nations, all because of some weird absolutism about not helping people in a supposedly Christian nation.

Our government already spends more per capita on healthcare than any other country and it only covers 1/3rd of our citizens. I don't see how expanding government coverage would bring cost down.

>Want to see a GP
>Call up to make an appointment
>Next appointment is next week
>Show up for appointment
>90% of the people in the waiting room aren't British

Oh gee I wonder why the system is over burdened and under funded?!?!
Thank god for all the immigrants working for the NHS.
Otherwise the NHS wouldn't be able to cope with all the immigrants it has to service.
I sure do love seeing 20% of my wages disappear every fucking month to pay tax and national insurance so that I can pay for the upkeep of a parasitic foreign underclass who will replace us within a century.

A lot of our healthcare costs are self-inflicted. Smoking, obesity, drug overdoses and a whole host of other problems resulting from choices made by individuals that put a lot of strain on the healthcare system wouldn't magically disappear if we had a single payer model.

a 'right' that costs a lot of money to maintain. I agree that it is important to have access at a reasonable price. But it is not the same kind of right as say speech or guns, which don't really cost anything to uphold. It's a false equivalence they always make

>Leftists always lie
We know op

>It's a lot of money for a service that is middling-to-bad compared to other developed nations
bullshit

>because the NHS is a fucking brilliant idea

lol fuck off making the hardworking pay for scroungers and paki's healthcare is a brilliant idea yeah?

You pay for it anyway since they're not allowed to throw idiots back into the street even when they've done it to themselves.

You basically end up paying more so you can feel like you aren't paying for idiots, except in the end you pay for them anyway and it ends up costing more due to the fact that they aren't forced to help them until said morons are deathly ill and require more expensive care.

Our system is shit too and falling apart. Speak with anyone that works in the system and they will tell you it is 10x worse off than the media will admit. It's still cheaper to give morons some level of preventative care than wait for them to almost die and then try to put the pieces back together.

>bongs stripping all their fundamental rights away
>B-but at least we have free health care!!
what's the point of living if it's in a socialist nanny state that decides what you can and can't say in order to protect a group of people that aren't even from your own country. Hospitals ans clinics must smell awful from all those Pakis.

>open borders
>healthcare for everyone
yeah, that sounds stable

aye lad

>healthcare is a right
>but free speech is not
>bin that knife lad
>wheres your tv licence?

It will NEVER be sufficiently funded because the departments are incentivsed to fail, because the more they fail, the more money they can say they need in order to not fail. It's a black hole, and we treat the fucking thing like with a religious reverence.

If we can go back to being an ethnostate I'm all for fixing the problems.
But for as long as it's provides services to increasing numbers of 3rd world parasites who do nothing but multiply, and for as long as it is increasingly staffed and managed by 3rd world workers, it will continue to be a disproportionate burden on and a destructive force against the native British population.
The NHS needs to fucking go until the foreigners are gone.

>Corbyn
He thinks he's big stuff because he had sex with a black woman decades ago. Disgusting oil driller.

Having Open Borders and Free Healtcare and College is suicidal, we should know we have both and if you don't go to a private clinic or a private university the first thing you will see in both is shit ton of foreigners that come to study or get healtcare and then leave without having to pay for anything. Fucking leaches.

I can agree to this. That is why a lot of people are dying is due to addiction problems and but realizing how bad it fucks their health in the long term. Especially when you have everyone dying due to Opiods, Smoking, alcohol consumption, eating terribly(think fast food, Soda, candy etc). It's kind of ironic because these people always feel entitled to have the best healthcare and we have to pay more for their bad habits. Especially when they go to the hospital and wonder what caused their issues like cancer,. Diabetes, heart problems etc.

That is the huge issue. Welfare, etc should only be for a homogeneous society and an ethnostate. Anytime you have more numbers pouring in that is more money you are giving to a person that does not work at all.

>half a dozen charts of healthcare costs to make it look like way more info than it is
As far as access to care and treatment outcomes the US ranks at the top. In europe when certain complications from pregnancy arise they just recommend abortion, and after that if the baby does in birth they don't count it. Here we actually do everything possible to try and save them.

Trump isn't wrong though if it's being destroyed.

Is that after ACA?

No. It's got more to do with our aging & increasingly obese population. Migration doesn't help of course but it's hardly a driving factor.. the majority of the drs and nurses are immigrants to be fair.

I hope Corbyn is elected so Brits are forced to do something about their failing nation.
Corbyn would red pill everyone on how insane the left is.

>healthcare is a human right
i cant imagine being this stupid

ACA wasn't put in to full effect until 2014.

This, but unironically.

You have brown people going to hospital for colds tho because they refuse to pay for a doctor.

Its the same in NZ. Free healthcare but you would be mad to want to use it in a "diverse" nation because the browns hog all the resources for themselves.

Earn a decent living and pay for health insurance, or wait for a year because Abdul and Tyrone keep bringing their kids to hospital everytime they have a sniffle.

BTW the reason they get so sick is they cant handle the cold like we do. Asthma, skin conditions, colds all winter long, while the average white person is healthy.

Yeah, he's just making a rhetorical point and the Politically Correct zealots eat it up without a second thought.

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>28:26
NHS is fucked, lads.

This. Whenever I need an operation, I fly to Britain. It's cheaper to fly there, stay in a nice hotel, and get the medical treatment than it is to get the treatment done here with insurance. I've had a vasectomy and three of my wife's sons circumcised on Britain's dime. You guys are a bunch of cucks.

Only medically required circumcision is done on the NHS. Genital mutilation for any other reason is never paid for by the NHS. Therefore I call bullshit.

My wife's rabbi wrote a letter of recommendation. Apparently he was in the army with the doctor who performed the surgery. They handled all the paperwork.

Passed in 2010 and delayed four years? It really was a shitty bill Dems passed on their own.

Jewish and Muslim cultural needs are not covered by the NHS, Rabbi or Immam's requests are irrelevant. A doctor must refer, then a consultant or a doctor in their team can confirm medical requirement and administer treatment. Circumcision is not a first solution, steroid creams and other options are always explored first so as to avoid what is mutilation.

Trump is talking to the American people - just like when he retweeted Britain First. His tweets are almost always directed specifically at the American people, it just so happens the rest of the world can read them. It might seem like an affront to Corbyn, but he's not talking to the UK, so why does everyone feel the need to chime in?

kys, but unironically

I don't know the details, friend. My rabbi and his friend handled all of that. All I know is that it was free for me. I don't want to argue over such things. I just want to thank you for paying your taxes.

We'll see how great the NHS is when Britain is

>Circumcision is not a first solution, steroid creams and other options are always explored first so as to avoid what is mutilation.

what the actual fuck... my forskin was hacked off because of phimosis, i wasn't offered cream or any sort of say in the matter. fuck the nhs. cunts.

This.
Thank you for smoking ice cream argument

It all depends on how convincing your rabbi is. Some are better than others.

How does Germany pull it off?

And I call bullshit. A circumcision in a us hospital is typically $250, return flights for your wife and child would exceed that, and that's before you even consider parking at the airport, transfers to and from the airport, and other associated costs.

If universal healthcare was something the founders wanted and advocated for, why was it not implemented at Americas founding??

>A circumcision in a us hospital is typically $250
You must tell me the name of this hospital. My wife is going to have another son soon and I'd love to save a few shekels.

If you're younger than 25 I'm very surprised. Official NHS advice: nhs.uk/conditions/phimosis/

Better import more sandniggers, that will fix it. Plus, you'll have a new supply of doctors and engineers.

>i personally would be very keen on paying extra money in taxes to preserve that

*thunderous applause*

>So brave of you to volunteer other people's money. Thank you diane

gentlecircumcision.com/newborn-circumcision/ up to 4 weeks = US$ 250

>performed by gentiles
no thanks.

they got us mate

This logic reminds me of the stuff Americans here say about our education system. That it's brilliant and wonderful but we just need to pour more and more money into it (even though our cost per student is the highest in the world with terrible results).

Literally untrue

it got done when i was 17 ffs

>healthcare is a human right
>DRUMPF BTFO

Sure guy. God bless!

>forcing doctors and nurses to treat people is a human right
Sounds lovely.

>Huh, guns are a right? That means the government is required to give me a gun!

Are you 12

No one owes you shit you fucking stain. Support yourself or die.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL

There is nothing Christian about forced wealth redistribution.

Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 2 Corinthians 9:7

You fucking limeys may be okay with having your money stolen at gunpoint, but we sure as shit aren't.

Trump ran on universal healthcare for christ sake.

>Everybody will be covered, the government is going to pay for it.

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>healthcare is a human right

why do they keep trotting out this demonstrably false cliche? has it convinced anyone yet?

>even on Sup Forums there are brits who believe the NHS isn't a steaming pile of shit

Just invade us already, I'll accept being a 51st state at this point if it'll free us from these socialism mutts. Deluded poorfags are going to die waiting for their cheetos biopsies just as long as they don't have to pay or actually work for a non-shit job to make paying not a problem.

Rights don't exist, retard

>Healthcare is a human right
Giving the citizenry free shit is just asking for it to be exploited.

Even with all the sand niggers?

health care isn't a human right.

they are protesting the NHS because it is strained from all the fucking migrants that swamped into the country.

who kept pushing for migration? LABOR

corbyn is a marxist cunt.

>its your human right to make the government babysit you

This

The NHS is not a healthcare system, it is a cult.

lol Trump was right. People were marching because the NHS is failing.

>Brits are marching because universal healthcare as a concept is broken
they are.

so you're saying "taking other people's shit" is now a human right?

Our schools only under perform in diverse cities. Even the little backwoods schools with 200 students do well as long as they're white.

>waiting 6 days to see the doctor
Unless dealing with the VA, I don't see how this is a real thing. Walk in clinics are all over the place, and they're usually really good. My regular physician takes walk in clients. Not to mention the emergency room is always open. Also, the satisfactory poll is subjective because people are inundated with the media bitching about healthcare. As for costs, the United States pretty much has to subsidize the innovative treatments for the rest of the world because of price caps. The rest of the world needs to start paying up, or be denied new drugs and treatments.