What is it about a six episode ova from seventeen years ago that has people in a frenzy? There's not a lot of merchandise for it, Gainax never went back to it, it's too short to have ongoing conversations about it, Adult Swim never says when they're rerunning it, but people never really stopped talking about it,putting it in their top 10s,etc.
What's its secret? More importantly, can they even get lightning to strike thrice?
>What is it about a six episode ova from seventeen years ago that has people in a frenzy?
Felt relatable
Brayden Parker
Nostalgia, that's all there is to it.
Wyatt Lee
Millennials think random and retarded = good
Christian Butler
Good animation, good artstyle, good music. Think about it as a big music video.
Parker Anderson
WOAH STAND BACK
MR EDGY IS ON THE LOOSE
William Richardson
It was on Adult Swim at a time where a lot of westerners were just getting into anime, so it was one of the first ones anyone over here saw, and was certainly one of the most memorable even if it was because you ended up watching the same 6 episodes multiple times.
From my understanding, FLCL wasn't super popular in Japan which is why they're only now coming back to the series as studios are starting to pander to the western audiences a bit more.
Dominic Hughes
Based on the mood of the trailer and the Q&A i can at least say the people who are putting this together understand what made FLCL so good.
If they manage to take their time and actually expand on what made it good , but this time explore female adolescence it could be just as good. As insane as it sounds.
The only thing we can say for sure is the animation wont be comparable. They will try , but you simply cant replace pencil with digital.
Easton Anderson
Western exposure. It was their first anime and they were impressed.
Wyatt Murphy
It's essential toonamicore along with Cowboy Bebop and GITS:SAC.
Caleb Perez
It's genuinely impressive. The animation (especially compared to what Western audiences had seen) is very good.
Adam Murphy
>They will try , but you simply cant replace pencil with digital.
Proof of how pretentious and stupid this wanna be sakuga fags are.
Carson Butler
Nostalgia and being obscure enough that it can be analyzed to death without ever being wrong.
Christian Bennett
I think I will enjoy this cartoon.
Matthew Flores
I actually have no problem with millennials and this this is accurate, at least for a good portion of the people who grew up in the 00s. Invader Zim and FLCL did have a following filled with people who loved randum. *holds up spork*
Dominic Parker
>but you simply cant replace pencil with digital
Except a major part of the reason FLCL was produced in the first place was to test out Gainax's new DIGITAL equipment
Nolan Kelly
in like a handful of scenes like the 3d matrix shit. The most impressive scenes were all done with pencils.
Digital cannot compete with traditional animation unless you go full 3d. The way people learn to do traditional animation is a superior way of learning how movement works. Thats why shit in the 90s that was produced at half the fucking budget looks better than shit today. Japs dont animate anymore. Instead of drawing on paper they fuck around in photoshop learning all this dumb software shit instead of HOW TO DRAW and HOW MOVEMENT WORKS.
Christian Anderson
no nigga FLCL was all digitally animated, cel animation doesn't look like that you fucking retard. even the non 3D parts were all drawn digitally on computers. fucking idiot.
Ryan Fisher
My nigga, simmer down. Take a swig of vodka. Smoke a good cigar. Eat an apple.
Everything is irie mon.
Cameron Jenkins
>Millennials I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and bet that you're a millennial yourself. You fags always like to complain about yourself, just like how SJWs like to bitch about white people despite most their ilk being white and unappreciative of their culture that is getting destroyed.
Cameron Lopez
digital can still imply hand drawn, senpai. We're not making cell-by-cell drawings anymore.
You start with traditional medium for fundementals and when production time starts, you switch to wacom and tablet stuff because that's industry standard now. It's not about wanting to stay completely traditional because that's fucking stupid, regardless of how good it looks. It's not that cost efficient anymore.
Look at this scene and tell me this isn't digital.
Noah Allen
No, the 2D animation was drawn in pencil. It's the composite/colouring work that was done digitally.
>you switch to wacom and tablet stuff because that's industry standard now. In Japan, that's still not industry standard. The majority of animators work in pencil to this day.
Liam Brown
Kind of odd that they would stay at it then, mostly considering there's a lot of their main stream anime over there - at least the harem shit which is all I see with occasional action - doesn't look that good at all.
FLCL still has that aesthetic, but there's still things I saw in that trailer that looked like the original stuffs style.
Caleb Watson
To add to your point if you're 35 to 11 you are a millennial. Don't believe me; look it up.
Isaiah Lopez
flcl is shit. somebody has to say it
Angel Green
I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN The pillows brainwashed me into liking it
Oliver Gray
lol no it was all done traditionally. scanned and then colored with a computer
Ryan Nelson
nah ur dumb
Josiah Russell
>What is it about a six episode ova from seventeen years ago that has people in a frenzy? Watch it and you would know. It's one of the greatest thing ever done.
Gabriel Turner
As do I. Unlike others I first saw FLCL when I was 19 after buying the Synch Point DVDs.
I remember arguing with a sub fag when it was first licensed, who swore up and down that no English VA could possibly do Haruko's voice.
Then Kari Wahlgren fucking nailed it!
Jaxon Wright
And then there's the retards like you that think anything they don't understand is just random.
Christopher Ortiz
It's purely nostalgia faggotry because of murricans who watched that shit on Toonami or Adult Swim, or whatever dumb block they had. It's cancerous like Gurren Lagaan and not particularly special.
Landon Wright
Because it's like fucking magical realism. Stuff goes from mundane to magical in a moment and it's fucking beautiful youtube.com/watch?v=5pbyagcLj8g
Jace Cooper
Kill yourself
Kayden Lee
FLCL is a million times better than TTGL
Caleb Diaz
>Kind of odd that they would stay at it then, mostly considering there's a lot of their main stream anime over there - at least the harem shit which is all I see with occasional action - doesn't look that good at all. I'm not sure what you mean. Pencil-drawn animation holds majority in anime because changing their infrastructure towards an entirely digital production line would be costly and because inertia is a powerful thing. It has nothing to do with aesthetic because, after cleanup is done, nobody can tell the difference. I think people don't realise that the difference between "cel animation" and "digital animation" has nothing to do with the animation drawings and everything to do with the post-production process applied to the drawings.
Aaron Scott
No ? I'm not a cancerous, meme spewing cunt like Americans are.
Josiah Hill
Kys
Joshua Hernandez
It's real easy. Just find a really tall building and jump off.
Dylan Cruz
>Not being ''''free'''' kek, enjoy your vanilla schools with no shootings
Ethan Perry
die in hole mother fucker and eat shit from you dead mother ! mother bitch.
Aaron White
>he lives in chinklebenonstrailia
Isaac Lopez
I'm not American and I didn't watch it as a kid yet I still see that it is a masterpiece.
Maybe your taste is just inferior.
Chase Sanders
I occurs to me that people who hated FLCL, unlike us decent folk, are more likely to post in this thread.
Aaron Green
>FLCL >Millennial I mean if you were under 15 when it came out sure
Joshua Bailey
>What is it about a six episode ova from seventeen years ago that has people in a frenzy?
>OP didn't read the manga >Or the DVD inserts >Or understand the subtext >OP thinks FLCL was just "lol randumb penguin of DOOM!" humor.
The great part about FLCL's coming of age story was that you could make as much, or as little of it as you wished. Just depended on how much you payed attention to the subtext of the characters.
I am going to bet OP doesn't even know what being "Fooly Cooly" means.
Robert Watson
>one of the first ones anyone over here saw, and was certainly one of the most memorable even if it was because you ended up watching the same 6 episodes multiple times This. Getting anime back then involved going to a friend's place and spending 30 min burning all six .Avi files onto a CD, or going to a lan party and leeching shit.
When you got an anime series you reached the shit out of it because it was usually the only show you had that you haven't already watched 30x.
Also the honest, fight scenes, soundtrack and symbolism in it it's good
Cooper Collins
3d and cg look like ass though.
David Ward
Only if done wrong.
Kevin Rodriguez
How the fuck could you watch all the way through FLCL and come to the conclusion that it was just random bullshit? Did it move to fast for you?
Jacob Watson
>Getting anime back then involved going to a friend's place and spending 30 min burning all six .Avi files onto a CD
Or for people my age, having a friend spent an entire night copying a VHS tape with hardsubs that was 17th gen.
Or Importing Raws, and reading printed out scripts some dude on a BBS message board/IRC chat had translated along with the scenes.
Ethan Robinson
I'm most baffled by how the pillows being the soundtrack is such a selling point for the new season. Don't get me wrong, FLCL's OST is one of the best ever made, but I've listened to every single album they've put out and they haven't put out a truly great album since My Foot in 2006. They've almost never been anywhere close to how great they were for the music that was chosen to be in FLCL. And now people are flipping their shit over "new material" when nothing great has come out of the band in a decade? I don't get it.
Brandon Williams
>Reached Meant to say watched,
William Thomas
I first watched FLCL in 2010. It was no where the first anime I had watched, and it is the only Anime that I watched then that i still hold in high regards today.
Cameron Davis
Depends where you live. Internet wasn't affordable until CD burners were out where I'm from
Justin Brown
>Finding vhs anime that wasnt Akira or Sin City Literally impossible
Evan Cook
DUDE I'M MOVING AND TALKING SO FAST, DID YOU KNOW THIS SCENE IS A METAPHOR FOR SEX!
wow, totally wasn't just random nonsense user, thanks for opening my eyes.
Leo Powell
They got popular overseas because of FLCL, I know at least 2 groups of people who went to cons cosplaying as The Pillows when the anime was still recent
Xavier Lopez
FLCL is a story about puberty, and the people who are most affected by FLCL's story are people who were experiencing puberty when they frist saw it, and everything you need to make sense out of it's story is within the show itself it's not just random garbage drop this meme and start paying attention
John Young
Kek This retard thinks those metaphores were only about sex.
Ryder Collins
That part I get, but did these people completely ignore 17 years of their new music and think that they're still be what they were in 1999?
Liam Robinson
Sounds like I struck a nerve. It's okay to rewatch it if you missed something, user.
Hunter White
The Pillow's newest album 'Nook in the Brain' is actually pretty great.
Luis Parker
I'll need you to define "great" after Moondust and Stroll and Roll had a combined half a good song between them.
Daniel Garcia
Agreed It wasn't until my third watch that i realized that chick from naota's school liked him.
Owen Bailey
>he didn't understand any of the subtext
Luke Thompson
I've gone back and listened to a lot of their older stuff. Living Field is probably one of my favorites aside from the obvious of Happy Bivouac and Runner's High. I also like a lot of the stuff on Kool Spice,
Also gave Stroll and Roll a shot recently which I believe was one of their newest albums, and while it was alright, I kinda felt like it was missing something. Maybe I'm just biased.
Carson Davis
full 3d is even worse, senpai.
Jason Ortiz
Great as in 7 of the 10 tracks on the album are ones I'd happily listen to regularly. For a band with ~20 fucking albums the fact that they're putting anything out worth listening to is pretty decent.
Basically the newest album gave me hope that the new FLCL tracks will be good. That hope was compounded by the riff at the end of the trailer, which sounded promising.
Christian Jones
American Babby's first anime. Literally ONLY north America cares about this shit, I assure you. The elevens do not care.
Jose Hughes
My stance is that ever since My Foot, and with a surprise exception in Trial which I enjoyed, everything they've put out has had maybe 1 good song. One good song a year, and they're expected to make a whole new soundtrack for this show? I'll admit I haven't heard Nook in the Brain yet though, I'll try and track it down.
Oliver Howard
We've always known Japan has bad taste.
Hunter Barnes
I'm with you, most of their discography is miss after miss, but Nook in the Brain did surprise me. Hang a Vulture is a great track.
Jason Ross
I'm actually kinda hoping they might pull tracks from some of their older albums as well, because I tend to agree they were in a slump for a bit.
Aiden Howard
Whatever user, enjoy your sequel full of western pandering, just like LWA.
Jacob Murphy
Watching the anime right now. Looks pretty funny so far.
Camden Cook
I liked LWA just fine.
Carson Nguyen
Please don't make me hope user. I've been let down for so many years that hope hurts me more. ;_;
Brayden Russell
And you enjoy the shows that pass your purity test, user
Julian Scott
It gets emotional by the end. And the soundtrack is killer
John Barnes
Most people who like it watched it when they were retarded 13 year olds with shit taste.
Julian Anderson
Hey man, maybe my taste won't line up with yours and you'll think it sucks, I'm just saying I was pleasantly surprised.
Zachary Thompson
Maybe, but what you're saying is kind of in tune with the wikipedia blurb about the album. >Yamanaka commented that the album would showcase an alternative rock sound different from that of the band's past few albums. Would you call that bit accurate?
Jaxon Gomez
>tfw this shit happened to me when i was little with a girl from my class
I will non ironically BEAT THE SHIT out of anybody who insults this show
Logan Reyes
For me, who saw it for the first time as an adult with a childhood faded in memory, it was very nostalgic but I think what made it special was the entire series was like getting turned on but never getting any resolution, it was so delightful in its reminder of what teenage sexuality was like
Also, the music choices were good...I have no interest in a sequel though
Jaxon Sanders
Oh god I completely understand your concern. And while it sounds somewhat shill-ish, I do have faith that the AS guys know what made it all good. And hoenstly the new song they had in the trailer sounded pretty good. A lot of their newer stuff like you said sounded lacking. And I think that's because the bassist left at some point? I could be wrong about that though. My hopes is they there is an established 'sound' that FLCL carries that's very bass heavy or focused since a lot of their early 2K songs were like that in my opinion.
If you want a solitary experiance, just watch it all in one go and stay off Sup Forums and don't look up anything else about it. Form your own opinion and watch it again if you feel you missed something. That's honestly the best way to do it.
Austin Williams
>I'm most baffled by how the pillows being the soundtrack is such a selling point for the new season. Because the only reason anyone is interested in this project is nostalgia. Most of these people don't listen to the Pillows outside of FLCL, they just want this to be the same as what they watched as a kid, no thought put into whether that means making something devoid of artistic integrity.
Dominic Taylor
Yeah, that sounds pretty accurate with the exception of the very last song which has this weird over-dub thing going on.
Jackson Brooks
This was something I recently learned and it blew my mind, I never really realized what generation we were complaining about (but one of the downsides of living a secluded life is you don't actually belong to a particular generation so you lose that perspective, plus I'm not American)
Parker Sanchez
Did you give into your carnal desires and practice abstinence?
Charles Taylor
>There's not a lot of merchandise for it, Gainax never went back to it, it's too short to have ongoing conversations about it, Adult Swim never says when they're rerunning it, but people never really stopped talking about it,putting it in their top 10s,etc.
That's the point. Westaboos put hipster shit on pedestals just like everyone else. Every group of people has a "hidden gem" sort of thing that validates their being in an in group.
Robert Jenkins
I think it's less about nostalgia and more that FLCL is inseparable from The Pillows. At a certain point it's impossible to talk about one without mentioning the other; so in that regard it makes sense that they're coming back.
I think it would've been cool if the I.G guys had scouted/licensed another relatively unknown indie band, though. FLCL introduced tons of foreigners to new music, and this is an opportunity to do it again.
Noah Harris
Everything I love about anime and everything I think anime is about is present in those 6 episodes. For me, there's just nothing that tops that. I hate to sound like an autist, but there it is.
Camden Anderson
I agree
Jaxson Sanders
>His video rental store didn't have ancient copies of Ranma 1/2 and Tenchi Universe
Lmao pleb 13 year old me laughs at you
Adam Martin
I said it earlier, but I wouldn't say it's the greatest god damn thing since sliced bread, but I agree that it's got pretty much everything I love about anime in it.
Luke Wood
You meant to write 21.
Millenials are everyone old enough to remember being alive in 2000.
>got into Yes because Chris Squire uses a Rickenbacker like Hanako >Roundabout was the first song I ever learned how to play all the way through >lol user u liek Jojo?
Aiden Hughes
I really don't get that first episode, but I'm very interested now. Honestly, I picked FLCL to watch because I don't know what else to watch. Will probably watch other Gainax shit like Nadia.
Ryan Price
Really? I realized that after my first watch. It wasnt rocket science.