Economy crashes every 6 - 9 years

>economy crashes every 6 - 9 years
>this is the fault of whoever is president

never understood this

it only crashes under republicans actually

Jews

PEE PEE POO POO
STOCK MARKET DOWN BECAUSE OF THE JEW

POO POO PEE PEE
DEMOCRATS CRASH THE ECONOMY

This, when will conservashits learn?

No, they started fucking with the dow right after the memo came out.
Everything is a fucking jewish trick

Oh surprise surprise it's a fucking leaf.

Even if that's completely wrong, it should be widely understood.

>let's not adress the argument
>let's just post flag drivel

>tptb doesn't get their stooge into office
>crash the economy with no survivors

Yeah it actually crashes right before republican are going to be re-elected, or right after Democrats lose elections.

Just a ((((((((((coincidence)))))))))) goy.

It's always the Republicans' fault because the Democrats control the media

This is a highly intellectual post

>interest rates rising
>wages rising (sign of inflation)
>overvalued stocks
>pull back on QE
>investors might want to seek out an alternative to stocks if interest rates rise

The economy is still doing great. Almost at natural unemployment and companies are making record profits.

This and only this

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Don't worry
I'm sure all the data the fine folks at Sup Forums have access to will be used appropriately to make a counter argument. They'd never just post lazy, regurgitated insults and nothing else.

what does the y axis represent?

millions of private sector jobs per year

bump

>zfacts
>not the FRED
Ask how I know this is phony

fact check it

Those changes don't look as dramatic at the actual source, user.

This is a slide thread fagot

Here's another perspective of the same data set for further reference

now separate it by president

Idk bro Carter was slipping and then there were massive job gains towards the end of Reagan's first term and into his second. There were dramatic drop offs towards the end of Clinton and Bush's presidencies (the latter of which we all know the reason for).
Point being that Presidents don't wield a magic wand and can make changes to the economy how they please. Don't ignore the many other factors that go into increases in employment; makes you just as retarded as the rest of the faggots on here who think that Democrats can't manage the economy or that Jews run the world.

Carter was slipping? He created 10 million jobs in 4 years. One of the best job creation record. You're a legitimate retard who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Go learn what profit means u retarded 10 year old autist.

Economies movements are like the movements of big ships. Slow. To say that any apparent economic collapse is due solely to something that happened over the past 12 months is idiotic. Collapses come from decisions made years or decades ago.

It doesn’t just do this randomly, there are reasons. Last time it was due to vast amounts of shitty debt, fraudulently sold as top grade investments. Now, as soon as dickhead took office they immediately started rolling back all the protections put in place to try and prevent the next crash. Why do you think the stock market has been riding high the last year? All the investment banks, and hedge funds know that the game is back on, and there’s no sheriff in town to hold them accountable for their fuckery. This time it’s most likely a correction because legally not too much has changed yet, except the sharks all know the agencies watching over them are being gutted, but Wall st. hasn’t had enough time yet to really get to ripping us all off again.

OH FUUUUUUCKKKK THE STOCK MARKET IS OPENING IN JUST MINUTES
>JUST MINUTES
>JUST
>J U S T

Which is Exactly why giving Trump credit for the economy over the last year is idiotic.

1 minute.

Do you even know how jobs are created you fucking illiterate? Shitloads of jobs are created and destroyed every single day. But what am I to know? I'm only a third year econ major.

I completely agree... but you gotta understand the stock market does not equal the economy. See pic of Venezuela stock market. Trump talked about how the markets were in bubbles during campaign. Once he got in office he started playing cheerleader. But I believe he knows what is going on and has a plan.

ur fucking retarded

Lol it's happened around the world, and everyone blame trump.

I very aware that the stock market is not the economy. I wasn’t implying that it was. As a matter of fact I’ve used the same argument myself many times. Usually fruitlessly. My other longer comment does give Trump credit for the stock market over the last year, based in two things. One, Wall st. knows the cats are away, and they have little to fear from regulatory agencies, and second the anticipation of large dividends from the tax cuts. (Which IMO proves where the money from these cuts is really going, but that’s a separate issue.)

Ahahahahaha
Wow great point, you were chock full of arguments and answers when debating everyone else here and have resorted to insults when talking to someone who has a tad more than the layman's knowledge.
Congrats on being a pseud

>Carter was slipping

Carter created 10 million jobs actually. One of the best job creation records >REWLJ%#Terkgdljgl3q5jl;dfgj

>Business makes $100,000 in revenue annually
>But spends $200,000 a year annually
>Wow guys, business is booming. We'll be retiring at 40!
You're making the exact same argument.

this is what i say you're a fucking retard

u don't even understand the economic data i am giving you

NET JOB CREATION YOU FUCKING MORON

stop it already you're embarrassing yourself

what school do u go to? i want to report you. they shouldn't hand out diplomas to retards

why* i say

This is literally the first time you've mentioned net, right after I told you how wrong you are.
Have a look at the annual change in the amount of jobs in my second graph. Can you honestly say that Democrat presidents outperformed Republican presidents in the past 80 years? The two most dramatic changes are in the late 70s going into the early 80s and in the financial crisis of 07/08.
But no wait you'd prefer to look at your oversimplified graph with the pretty colours that says blue guys are good and red guys are bad.

Trump shouldn't have taken credit for the rise then

you can't have it both ways tovarish

like i said

>u don't even understand the economic data i am giving you

it's not what i call it fuckhead. it's what it is.

fuck off and go study the data

stop wasting my time with your mental retardation

He's like a quarterback. Win or lose he will get the credit or fault no matter how much of a impact he had on the results.

>Can you honestly say that Democrat presidents outperformed Republican presidents in the past 80 years

yes

Wow more namecalling and crappy infographics. This will be my last response as I've already wasted too much of my time talking down to dumb cunts like you.

Stop looking at a small amount of warped data figures and pretty pictures and listen to what I'm trying to tell you. Is there any mention of government spending, unemployment and labour participation rates and a number of other economic factors that come into creating jobs?

Germany in the 1930s created heaps of jobs, sounds great except for that government spending and inflation were out of control.
Don't construe this as me saying "hurr durr obama is a nazi communist" like I know you'd love to; I'm not even saying that Republican is better than Democrat. Just stop being a retarded cunt who drools at whatever dumb shit that agrees with them and look at the entire picture ffs.

Also Carter created those jobs over his entire presidency not annually you fucking liar.

>Sup Forums constantly goes back to MUH STOCK MARKET SO HIGH WOWWW whenever trying to think of something Trump has actually done
>somehow high stocks is because of Trumps work
>when it crashes they scream that he isn't responsible for the stock market

I said 10 million over 4 years. Holy shit you're honestly the biggest retard on Sup Forums

English is not your first language is it.

No way you're in uni. You're mentally handicapped.

the zen of right wing politics

before any of you delicate rittle frowas get offended, bear in mind that Sup Forums embraces propaganda and claims there is nothing wrong with propaganda. reality has a way of correcting this mindset

Oh shit you're right sorry, I misread. It's 2AM here and got shit on my mind apart from a retarded fight on Sup Forums. My point about the rest of it still stands tho, cherrypicked infographics are dumb and you know it.

Econ is such a meme please get a finance degree so you don't get laughed out of the building every time you open your mouth.

The majority of people are just dumb when it come to economics.

First time you've admitted error and apologized. You should have been doing this non stop.

yw 4 the education

Shut up bitch :^)

Well I'm a dual major and hoping to get a career in IR (which I'm much better at than econ) and sorta just using economics to help bolster that. You reckon that finance would help me better? I could switch over now without too much setback desu

suicide is your best option

i hate retards

It was a mean joke, just that Econ got removed from the business school at my uni. I did finance though, it's just very technical, gives you a good understanding though

wow that's rude. having an existential crisis here at 20 to 3 and that ain't helping.

you mean there's a 4-8 year delay

Lmao. I transferred into a double degree from a standard commerce because I wanted to do IR. Was hoping to do econ and finance in commerce but don't think I can do that in my double. Should probs chase that up a bit more desu

lol no

there isn't

ok sorry dont kys just smarten up

What degree do you hold/study anyway man?
Genuinely interested in what you have to say after being somewhat humbled ;)

I have a Masters in btfo rwr

I'll just presume you're an autist still in high school then

Boom and bust are natural consequences of capitalism.

wrong on both counts

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they don't have to be and it's the job of public policy to smoothe the cycle

>Democrats crash the economy
>Elect Republican to fix economy

plz tell me then

Lmao indeed, they moved Econ to the liberal arts college. Do your thing man, I like finance though. Modeling is fun

Republicans are elected when the economy is strong. Like Trump in 2016 and Bush in 2000.

>Stock market drops (still above records)
>Economy crashed
Everything still seems fine to me. Wall St. just cashed in a bit.

>What is a central bank
>What are interest rates
>What are price controls
>What is a business cycle
Really makes you think

Yes they do.

Then trump shouldn't pretend its his personal accomplishment when it does well. You can't take credit for the highs and ignore the lows.

Wouldn't that just be an effect of population growth?

no they don't

also, retarded children these days think there is a 2008-style crash every 8 years

>Just a (((cohencidence)))

It's literally the perfect diversion for normies.

>Muh stawks!
>Those ebil republicans!!!!

Coincidence? I think not.

Day of rake

When will retarded leftists realise that it fails every time labour get into power in Britain

Then why don't you kill yourself? You're the biggest retard on pol. You ant name a single nigger country you'd want to live in yet want more niggers in the west. Not only that but you can't even explain why successful people should be forced to give money to losers like you

Sperglord is sperging

There are no signs the US economy is crashing.

US and EU PMI indexes are close to 60 points.
Anything above 50 shows economic expansion.
China is languishing at ~51 by comparison.
The US PMI index has been at a number close to 60 only a handful of times in recent history, like back in 2003 or when Reagan's economy was in full swing.

Don't confuse a correction with a long-term crisis, all the signs are flashing green and the "West" is firing on all cylinders.

Alright there guy, from my perspective, the trends outlined in show that by the time democrats leave office they've put the economy on a downward trend for the incoming administration.

I'll bet you're the kind of faggot who thinks that all the new jobs coming in under Trump are residuals from the Obama-era. Even if you don't, that kind of cognitive dissonance directly challenges your assertion.

You can only have it one way. If you're going to blame Trump for fucking up the economy, then you can blame him for creating new jobs.

Fuck off and stop leaf-posting.