Trump btfo

You can’t refute this.

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>Trump: NHS is broken
>Corbyn: NHS is broken but we want to keep it

somehow this is contradictory

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lol no the NHS is shit

Trump implies the people were marching against NHS. They were actually marching to keep it.

even Con jeremy cunt said no islamobong would trade their healthcare for the American system

burger btfo

No it was Drs demanding more money actually.

and yet they were still matching because it's fucking broken, thus proving Trumps point

Healthcare is NOT a human right.

nice contribution leaf

>I have the right to the services of another human being at no cost!
>Also, the doctor shortage in the UK has nothing to do with this!
>There is no problem with importing "doctors" who went to "medical school" in India!
Get your shit together.

>(((human right)))

american education

Charlie Gard disagrees.
Fuck outta here, faggot.
KYS

Trump: the people were marching because their dystem of universal healthcare is shit
Corbyn: no they were actually marching to keep it

U get it?

faggot

>healthcare is a human right

exactly, so why would you trust the government with total control over it? that's like saying all food and water should be owned by the state. can the government stop trying to insinuate in the middle of things?

not an argument

>mfw you pay a VAT for incredibly shitty healthcare and it's still unsustainable

>People were marching to keep the NHS which is failing
>We love the NHS
How is that a refutation? If your system needs a shit ton of money to work, then why should it be kept?

trumps point being that NHS sucks and we shouldn't do it

Socialists lie; people die.

i'd be surprised if the citizens of a country other than the US were marching for less government.

how should healthcare be a human right? now id agree that healthcare should be a right TO ACTIVELY WORKING PEOPLE. however fuck you if you think the world owes you anything just for existing faggot.

Healthcare is not a human right. It requires that you impose yourself on other people by forcefully appropriating their resources against their will. You can't have a right to other people's shit because that necessarily impinges on prior rights.

Corbyn is a fucking scumbag, I despise him more than any British politician of my lifetime.

HOL UP
YOU BE SAYIN
>EATS BURGER
SO YOU BE SAYING
>INVENTS MEDICAL DEVICES DUE TO PROFIT MOTIVE
HOL UP HOL UP
>DRAGS THE REST OF THE WORLDS STANDARS OF LIVING UP VIA CAPITALISM

Are you fucking retarded? People are marching to keep it not to break it down

Why do all of these faggots think that health care is a human right? How retarded are these people?

>The NHS has been judged the best, safest and most affordable healthcare system
>The UK stands out as a top performer
>The US was again judged to be the worst system, despite investing far more money than the other countries.

However
>NHS came 10th on healthcare outcomes, a category that measures how successful treatment

Surely this is the most important category and it's near the bottom

The NHS is terrible. It might be a decent idea in a nation that put it's own people before outsiders but it doesn't work here.

The concept of a human right is asinine. Also, it's hilarious people in the UK are marching to keep a broken and failed system, and Trump's right that we shouldn't make the same mistake.

>Healthcare is a human right
it's your health, so take care of it. I don't ask my neighbor to work out for me or my boss to make me dinner, why should I expect them to take care of what is purely my business?

why the Democrat flag, though? why do you think identifying with a political party is a good idea? is it because you're a fucking idiot? a fish out of water, hanging out on Sup Forums for some god forsaken reason so you can shill about how "healthcare is a human right"

neck yourself

>Switzerland #1 in all metrics
your chat is shit and you should feel bad.

>Highest male lifespan on PLANET EARTH
Switzerland
>2nd Highest female lifespan on PLANET EARTH
Switzerland
>Least obese people in the western world
Switzerland
>Most attractive people in the entire world
Switzerland

Get raped and died Pakistan

Socialism btfo capitalism #1!

Because societies (white) are built by people caring about each other in times of need. something you (a chink) could never understand.

Labours btfo. Tories ftw.

Why are you so triggered about people not dying?

>Healthy lives
>Switzerland #3
>Despite Switzerland having the longest lifespan in the west and the entire world for males
Good graph you retard.

Where is Venezuela on that list

It's important that you have this conversation IRL with as many people as possible, even if it makes the dinner party uncomfortable. Get to work

I am a healthcare admin...the least worst option is single payer while providers remain privately owned and operated.

Our system and theirs are fucked for different reasons.

Healthcare is a service performed by humans, by calling it a right you are insinuating you have a right to others labor. Unless you believe slavery is morally correct you have no forthright argument that could support healthcare as a right.

healthcare is not a right but a privilege. You should work to have healthcare

first rule of rescue is ensuring your own safety before trying to rescue someone else

less resources for me than. now kill yourself.

Their argument is that a healthy population benefits everybody. But one could also argue that it's a waste of funds stealing from the healthy and those who keep good care of themselves, just to give it to the defective or people who don't care about their health. Why should someone, who runs every day and watches what they eat, get taxed to pay for some obese person's insulin and blood pressure medication (while they still chug a 2 liter of soda a day)? The only responses you ever receive are emotionally driven.

This.

What does this have to do with working together as a community for the good of folk you retard. Unless you're putting out a fire the entire time your neighbor has a treatable cancer shut the fuck up and lend a hand.

trump isn't wrong, the NHS has problems. people misuse it all the time and lengthen the waiting times

> Trump implies the people were marching against NHS
No, he implied they were marching "because their system is going broke and not working" - can you read?

I've tried. I was actually winning some people around before this fucking disgusting cunt warped the political discourse. I voted to leave the EU obviously, and I'm still as sure as I was two years ago that it's absolutely the right thing to do, but the sooner this shit is over the better. There's no way Corbyn would be taken so seriously if it wasn't for Brexit.

*breaks leg*

Do you have autism? What do you think he is implying in that tweet?

pathetic reading comprehension. kys

people argue about how universal healthcare is good. of course it's good. problem is there is no fucking way to pay for it on a long enough timeline.

>pay VAT for shitty healthcare
>import nurses and doctors
>still can't pay them enough to staff hospitals competently

Democrats are all from inner cities. Meaning not only do they live in the highest crime and most welfare driven areas but also they have the worst schools.

Therefore it is safe to conclude that most democrats can barely read and if they can read its at a 5th grade level which is all they needed to graduate from a democrat high school.

That list is bullshit and you know it, the States has the most advance healthcare available and the only reason it isn't number one is that it is a for profit system.

US healthcare is fucking great if you exclude brokefags, fatfags, and illegalfags. Which I do. I pray one day soon the system will too.

>human rights

>Trump: NHS is broken, we shouldn't adopt it, look at them match
>UK: NHS is broken but we want to fix it

neither disagree on Trump's original premise: NHS is broken

>20 happiest countries chart

This has little to do with the health systems operated by countries

Firearms are an actual human right for american citizens, so where is my government-issued gun, ammo, and training, faggot?

>Why do all of these faggots think that health care is a human right?
It's a human right, like your guns. Separate issue is who and why should pay for it. Both sides are wrong on this one

sure the US is technically leading the world in medical innovations and giving people wider access to treatments and medical technology that aren't available in other developed parts of the world, but muh free shit

This is one of the reasons our health care system is in trouble though. A NHS is not compatible with open borders

Dip shit. Read the words typed out as well. All the pieces fit together. No wonder you faggots don't have an empire anymore. You can't even read your (1) language.

You have a right to acquire firearms, you don't have a right to have other people plundered to pay for it.

brokefag here. I get $4,500 worth of shots every 2 weeks. Thanks.

>A NHS is not compatible with open borders
100% agreed.

>other peoples productivity is your right
What did he mean by this?

>owning guns is a right, so govt must step in to force manufacturers and vendors to make them

when the above greentext occurs, then your argument will make sense. not before.

>every argument that gets to Sup Forums is destroyed

How come Sup Forumsacks are more intelligent than people in the government?

nice

>when the above greentext occurs, then your argument will make sense. not before.
If they refuse for some reason, then yes, people should go protest and government should do something.

Same with food production. But practically it's impossible, because free market

so it is broken?

It's not a human right, it cannot be a human right because it contradicts prior rights. People should pay for it themselves or find someone who will voluntarily pay for it for them.

Can you literally not fucking read ?

>Healthcare is a human right
I really hate how lefties twist and contort this statement to suit their political needs

That's what I'm saying. Right = they can't deny you if service was paid for

It looked at lots of things to make a comparison. One of the categories including equity and value. As you point out these have negative results for the US.
However these weren't the only judgements. It looked at lots of areas. The US has a poor infant mortality record for some reason and greater obesity.
Like I point out anyway the uk came near the bottom for outcomes (it does bad on cancer survivor rates) which is one of the most important.

There are loads of ways to judge each system and they probably all have some biases. This ranking system is from a US based organisation.

If you take profit and money out of consideration, if you have money, you are probably good whatever country you live in

Take out the human right thing and he would be falling on his sword. All this stuff works when it's a homogeneous society and it keeps out immigrants. Now that there is immigrants they will automatically lose money because they do not work or contribute to the system. Corbyn is a communist that does not understand basic economics and would bankrupt Britain all to make everything "equal".

>>Healthcare is a human right
The right to defend yourself is also a human right, so federal taxes should purchase guns and tanks for citizens.

oh wow socialism with open borders failing? say it aint so!

is the healthcare in the US privatized or public?

Also, how would you provide healthcare to 300+ million people?

Healthcare isnt a human right because it means ultimately taking from some to cover others.

Wow that was easy to refute.

>healthcare is a human right

farming sickness until you bankrupt yourselves.

protip: human rights aren't real, 46 chromosomes doesn't balance the bank book

That is not what is meant by right.

>protests doesnt equal
>upheaval
Thats not the sal alinskys power play silly.

it's heavily regulated private with massive government funding

same way you would with a population of 1 million

leave it alone

A publicly funded healthcare option is a reasonable thing to pragmatically argue for or against. But calling Human Right is retarded.

Well it isn't true in the first place. Positive rights are for children.

Enlighten me then please

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Sure, and in the US you have the right to buy both guns and health care.

Dont be fucking stupid.
Allowances arent constitutional.

>Allowances arent constitutional.
That doesn't matter, if healthcare, or defense of your health at the expense of others, is a human right.

Self defense, at the expense of others, is also a human right.

PAY FOR MY GUNS

The poster is Jeremy Corbyn. The man could tweet the sunrise and a rational human would be skeptical if we still had it.

>my own stupidity
>has nothing to do with my health
Even if a gun was free to you. You are obviously too stupid to have one.
Allowance denied.

This is the man who refuses to condem Castro or maduro or any other leftist cunt yet wanted to extradite Pinochet he needs his own special Jeremy the cunt copter

too late
pay for my health care and my guns so I can kill nazi's like you.

No and fuck your mother.