Military

>Reposting cause I put it up at like 2:30 last night while everyone was asleep. Actually looking for advice

Hey fags,

I'm a third year college student up in Toronto but I'm from Vermont. I don't like school, I came for business but it turns out I don't like it and can't see myself pursuing anything of meaning there. That being said, I've always been drawn to the military, I even wrote an essay in high school about how I was gonna join the Rangers after I graduated college.

Anyway, with there finally being an actual patriotic president in the WH and WW3 seemingly imminent, as well as my shit GPA, the military is looking like more of an option.

>Is anyone enlisted here? I'd rather be enlisted than an officer. Shooting bad guys.
>I've always wanted to go into the Rangers/SF. Any other suggestions?
>I'd also probably like to switch out of the service and join either police or FBI/CIA/NSA even though I don't really trust the CIA. Point is, I feel like this is my calling.

I'm fairly smart (33 ACT's) but I don't try here in college. I'm not gonna enlist until after I graduate cause I promised my parents. Any suggestions/tips/stories are much appreciated.

enlisting with a college degree is stupid
enlisting while being smart and having a college degree is even more stupid, you will hate your life and resent everyone around you because the military is full of literally the bottom of the barrel of society
I don't even advise being an officer, there's lots of downsides to that as well but I'm less experienced in that department because I wasn't one
but if you want to try to commission as an officer in the rangers I'm sure it can be a rewarding experience, being at least partially in command will offset how fucking stupid everyone around you is
just make sure you think everything through before committing years of your life to uncle sam, I wish I had

also being enlisted doesn't give you any more of a chance to enter combat so if that's your rationale it's flawed

You’d start at a higher pay grade. A lot of people do it. Honestly it’s been great for me so far. If you want to see action guaranteed, the only way to do that is either 1) go special forces or 2) enlist with the National Guard with a combat MOS and put yourself on the “seeking deployment” list. But the NG is very hard to get a spot in full time, so there’s that. There are a lot of guys in the Guard who spend more time in Afghanistan than USA, though, even now.

I enlisted with a degree in biology. I have 4 days left til my ETS date but I'm home already on terminal leave. I served for 3 years 19 weeks as infantry and was stationed with the 101st. Ask me anything

Why did you choose not to commission?

I'll start with these.
>>Is anyone enlisted here? I'd rather be enlisted than an officer. Shooting bad guys.
Both officers and enlisted shoot bad guys in the infantry. If you go officer route you'll do their basic training, some additional training and get to choose your 10 top picks for what you want to do but ultimately based on your skill set (leadership abilities, physical strength, etc) they will put you where they deem best fit. However almost all officers (male for now) get what is called "time on the line" meaning they lead a platoon of enlisted infantry. This is because as a 2LT and 1LT you need to get platoon leader time in order to advance in the ranks. I did not choose this route because at the time when I enlisted it was a minimum 5 year active and 3 year reserved commitment. I'm glad I went enlisted for other reason outside of the shorter commitment time.
>>I've always wanted to go into the Rangers/SF. Any other suggestions?
If you go officer you will almost always get a 100% chance after your basic training to do ranger school. My suggestion is if you are serious about it get physically fit. Ranger school and SF are more cardio than lifting big.
>>I'd also probably like to switch out of the service and join either police or FBI/CIA/NSA even though I don't really trust the CIA. Point is, I feel like this is my calling.
Transitioning to become an officer is easier than any 3 letter organization. Hopefully you get a deployment under your belt and you see combat because it gives you a higher chance to do the cool guy in the black suit job. Regardless, they give rank a lot of regard meaning enlisted side you at least have to become an e-5. Officer side it's whatever because you lead enlisted regardless of what you do (see what I said about time on the line).

When I signed the dotted line I didn't want to do the time commitment the officer side required. After getting in I'm glad I did enlisted instead of officer.

If I were Canadian I would enlist in the British military so I could get citizenship after 3 years.
America Commonwealth nation when?

that makes sense, officers in my rate were 8 year commitment vs 6 year for enlisted so that was less of an issue

Your rate? Infantry contracts should all be 3 years and some change.

I was in the navy, we call them rates and a lot of the more technical ones have 6 year commitments

>the military is full of literally the bottom of the barrel of society

You must not have been back in the world long, because the military on average selects from the 70th percentile, and rejects people with more than minor medical or legal problems.

Those bottom of the barrel people you're talking about are our best and brightest. You'd encounter worse in any given Home Depot

the problem exacerbates itself the higher you go up the ranks, the people who stay in are usually irresponsible lower class shitheads who can't function outside of the military
I now realize that my own background may have shaped this perception though, I come from a relatively wealthy majority white area
I met a lot of nig nogs in the service, but the rich white kids may have been even worse because they're the most likely to snitch on you for even minor transgressions because the military has a culture of rewarding buddyfucking

If you feel like killing a lot of shitskins, I'd probably do it. You hardly make anything though.

You honestly need to think about your career.

If you're smart, finish school, get a decent entry job, start your own LLC, and pull triggers on niggers on the block with a Glock.

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That's really it, you just encountered an accurate/slightly upward biased cross section of our society, with a healthy dose of black POGs.

The fucked up thing is they all chose the military because it's a structured environment that gives them a chance to be part of society in a meaningful way. Those useless motorpool jerkoffs are actually some of the best blacks you'll ever meet.

As for being an officer, OP is really just choosing between serving among a bunch of dipshits or babysitting a bunch of dipshits for a healthy pay increase.

>If you feel like killing a lot of shitskins

There are virtually no combat deployments these days. OP is more likely to sit in Lithuania staring at Ivan through binoculars than get sent to a FOB in Afghanistan.

And you get paid fine as long as you don't blow it all on a two year old Mustang and booze.

I ended up hating officers a lot more than the enlisted. The lower enlisted are just pure idiots only motivated by smoke breaks and pussy. It's not a shocker they fuck everything up. The officers are honestly trying and still fucking everything up.

I did the same thing. 3 year active infantry contract with a degree. So glad I wasn't stuck in there any longer.

Veteran with 18 years here
5 active duty (Airborne)
3 National Guard
10 Reserves

If you want to do "shoot people in the face" stuff, get RANGER in your contract!
SF does a lot of cool guy stuff, but they also do a lot of shit that sucks, like sit in an OP for months in the freezing cold just to see how often some fuckwad came into town (I had to support them doing just that).
Now with Rangers you are going to have a high degree of discipline with a lot of "oh man this shit sucks for no reason"

Now if you are smart and you are strong get into a SEAL contract with the Navy OR go Airforce Special operations. Their Para-Rescue guys are fucking bad ass (not to mention the failure rate for the school is 97%), the Combat Controllers and TACP guys are always with the SF and Rangers when they are doing killing shit missions....and basically while we all talk shit about the Airforce, we will immediately start kissing the PJ, CCT's and TACP guys asses because they can either bring down hell and fire or get your ass out of there when shit hits the fan.

Air Force SF is good but the wait time for a contract is 18+ months these days. They should be rolled into the Army and Marines anyway, the Air Force is a waste of manpower.

So just to recap

>I can go to Ranger school whether I enlist or go officer (get paid more as an officer) (better odds of getting into ranger school as an officer?)
>I'll see combat either way
>Better chance of 3-letter agencies after going officer route unless I put a lot of years into enlisted

I haven't looked a ton into the teams, although it seems like exactly what I'm talking about. And as mentioned, I'm not trying to be sitting in some shithole base in some random country waiting for my contest to end. I'm trying to be one of the guys that are called up to take out some shitskin at 0300

Dude, with all my years in, I am trying to jump ship on the Army for an AFSOC contract. The quality of life is just so much better so its worth the wait.

Also I think the wait for AFSOC is less so long as you meet the physical requirements.

I'd agree with this. Every Ranger guy I met/knew was on point while they were in the Army. SF was all over the place from old men with both knees replaced & bitch tittied guys who only operated radios to a 115lb dude who carried an 81mm mortar tube while dragging a loaded skedco up a mountain. I met 4 TACPs, 2 of whom were some major cry asses and the other 2 were bro-tier chads who would wind down from missions by running 10 6-minute miles.

As prior service you might get discretion, but I've been shopping around with the different branches and the Air Force tells every kid off the street that they can do cool navy seal shit. I took the ASVAB through them, and of the six people in my pool, four of them all wanted to do TACP/CCT. I know they'll all wash out and end up in data entry or maintenance, but getting that many inevitable failures in the pipeline fills it up fast.

you have reached to the lowest common
denominator are you happy with that.
literally nothing stops you for being a piece of shit.

what the fuck are you talking about

>fighting Israel’s wars

Stupid tools are attracted to the military. you sound like one of them.its perfect for you.

My recruiter says they just graduated their first ever 100% TACP class....but that was because it started at 150% lol

But yeah basically this is my second attempt. To get to the AF I have to get released from my contract, that takes MONTHS, then the AF has to check me out and evaluate me which takes more MONTHS....but at 18 years of service I am used to waiting so my frame of reference with time is not a good metric.
The first time around my release expired before the AF got around to seeing if they wanted me. This time around supposedly I am closer once I get me release again.
a lot of SF dudes believe their own hype, the ones that dont are the ones you want around. The few TACP guys I have met were good, the PJs are where I am trying to get.
faggot
look at his flag...thats what he is talking about
>a good way to stay sharp till we have one of our own