What's his endgame Sup Forums?

So after BASED Putin wins the coming election in March, what will his plan be for 2024? Obviously he can't run again, and "correcting" an amendment or two during his coming term would look rather interesting to say the least.

What do the Russians or Sup Forums think will happen? The annexation of Crimea was a do or die moment for Russia in Putins eyes. He gambled and won but it was very risky. Does Sup Forums think Putin will intentionally start a conflict to remain in power; or will he appoint a successor? Will he finally stop beating around the bush and declare himself Tsar?

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>2024

Non-issue. By then he and Trump will have teamed up to conquer the world and unite it under one flag.

>one flag
red-white-blue
white-blue-red
hmm...

Protect KGB money
>what will his plan be for 2024? Obviously he can't run again
lol

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>clueless rambling coldwarfaggot narrative

yeah if you could just fuck off back to your containment board that would be great

>low tier bait
or
>actually emotional disturbed and mad about facts

3/10

>Obviously he can't run again

He absolutely will run again, he just needs a disguise.

Basically get rid of sanctions and profit.

I'm just saying because the constitution was already changed once by him and this will be his last term. So hopefully that'll be a good disguise.

>President Dimitry Whateverthefuckenov serves until Putin is eligible for reelection again.
>Putin then gets reelected.

he'll retire, he's too old for this shit and the only reason he's still doing it is because he wants to make sure it gets done right and doesn't fully trust anyone else to take over for him.

That's really his biggest issue - ensuring that the next guy in charge in russia isn't a fucking full-retard.

I don't think he will give up the power
or he has a trustworthy successor

Install Trump without killing a single CNNigger or hurting a hair on a single Democrat's head. Then have him removed. Then reinstall him. Then make the Pope kiss my Super Bowl ring.

Fanciful yet interesting, truly the funniest timeline that will be

>So after BASED Putin wins the coming election in March
Wrong! He will be hanged by the revolutionaries.

>He will be hanged by the revolutionaries.
Any proofs that Russia is getting feed up?

No endgame. It`s all about not giving power to anyone and keeping stealing money. When he will die/retire, Russia will turn into the biggest mess the modern world has seen.

fed*

What's the atmosphere over in Russia right now with the election coming up?

It is fed up, all it needs - just a little direction pointer.

Moving peoples` attention from the militaristic show aka easy distractions to the problems inside the country and people responsible for this and you`ll get your day of the slav rope.

He's ex KGB, Im sure he'd be happy to give it to an ally and rule from the shadows

That interview he had with Oliver Stone was interesting, he said "Those who are destined to hang will never drown." I think he knows one day someone is going to get him.

There`s honestly nothing serious. Some controlled opposition candidates with no election campaign whatsoever (Putin doesnt actually has one too, though).

Talking about some interesting stuff, Navalny encourages people to boycott the election. Which makes sense in the way, even though we don`t have a minimal threshold of votes.

Hmm, I've aways been interested about how the Russia people just let Putin do what he wants. But I figure if that's what their happy with, it's their choice

This

But what you Russian folk think he'll do in 2024, I mean obviously you guys should know more then us. What do you guys think will happen? Will he change the constitution again or just leave?

>He gambled and won but it was very risky

How did he win? He alienated Ukraine, one of the closest allies of Russia. That's like making Canada into North Korea. Lol and all the countries that supported the annexation were all 6 literallywhos like Sudan and Venezuela.

Nobody cares lol.

People actually talked about Trump in here because you have a real political system and shit. Although everybody was sure Hills will steal the election.

With Putler everyone is 100% CERTAIN he will steal the election so nibody even cares, nobody votes its llike there arent really any elections, because they are fake

It is easier to obey and endure than confront and bear the possible consequences.

Russia is already the biggest mess the world has ever seen.

He will become prime minister.

>let
What do you mean by let?
We dont have guns and all legal protests get supressed by force, protesters jailed on made up accusations of extremism or rioting.

What do you suggest?
Not vote for him? Well he will vote for himself anyway. There's no real political system and no real oposition to him.

So he can really pull the Tsar move if he wanted too?

Because Russias geography is fucked, after the Soviet Block fell all their access to warm water ports where taken away. Putin took a lease out on the fresh water port in Crimea, but Ukraine was becoming more and more pro west so with the fear that they will revoke the lease he decided to take it. All of Russias ports before hand are in NATO countries areas. So having direct access to the Mediterranean is important for war and exporting, importing goods,

You should look more into it.

Seems likely

Well I would just figure that there would be some sort of resistance, even in the military

Putin will remain active in one capacity or another long after 2024. Putin's endgame in the long term is to pass on leadership to a new generation of Russia’s leaders, and make sure that this works. Right now he is busy identifying people, most of them in their 40s and even 30s, who might form that group. Some have already been appointed to senior positions as ministers, governors, or other high officials. All will be tried and tested and given tasks to fulfil. Putin himself would then become a president mentor like they have in Singapore, a pater patriae with no official post in the government.

Nothing radical, but people become more awaken each day, as it seems.

>even in the military
The russian army is totally cucked so expecting some anti-putin resistance from them is ridiculous.

>So he can really pull the Tsar move if he wanted too?

That would justify hostile actions from the west if he officially became a Tsar. You would have a formal reason to treat us like NK wich would result in our economy getting down to NK levels.

Non-formally he already is a Tsar and in 6 years he will probably get so rich and so old he can happily retire in a palace on Mars

This. Russians don't yet understand it, but Putin saved the country from a much worse fate.

To kill Bond.

>that flag
>that post

based putin in your stupid or shill mind, some people never learn.

Seems like Russian folk are going to have to commit to serious integrity to be given the ability to choose how their lives are ruin. If they want it, are there any secret meet ups that people attend or can you not say that?

I hope he succeeds, at least as long as he is headed in the right direction
Russia owes to him that it did not collapse and is still haflway competitive

run*

>Well I would just figure that there would be some sort of resistance, even in the military

Political resistance is supressed.
Military like in any dictatorship are a super privileged class of society, officers and army are super rich and permityed to be super corrupt and live above the law.
So they will never bite the hand that feeds them so generously, military are super happy with Putin.

True, he wouldn't risk that type of pressure

Listen here, tovarysch mayor, nothing to see in this thread, go write new cases about people having swastikas in vkontakte.

Hmm sad situation, but I can't help but believe that to be true

Idk what your talking about lol

But being serious though, yes, Im pretty sure such meeting occurs, but its a very dangerous kind of activity as you can go straight to the extremist watch list.

The next problem is that opposition is not united. Nationalists, liberals, democrats, commies, the thing the dont seem to see that Putin is an enemy to each one of those groups.

People dont give a shit because yourvouce doesnt matter in a non-democracy.

However social networks are a minefield we have enforcrd anti hate speech and anti extremism laws.
So you better not be an extremist or post your views on facebook.

As for literal speech nobody gives a shit.
I got shitfaced in a bar, shouted /pol shit about 9/11, Jews, Soros, Replacement of population in Europe and tgat WE HAVE TO START KILLING PEOPLE, GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT WND SHIT

Well it was a shitshow and nobody cared.

The fun part I yelled that at the closest bar to the kremlin where 50% peiple were officials and deputies, they gave me quite some stares lol.
But if I pisted that ib Vkontakte I would be in prison, thats criminsl speech.

There is no endgame. Putin is opportunistic thug, who cares only about enriching his friends and staying in power. Crimea and Novorussia/lugansk happened only because he was afraid of western influence stirring trouble here.
Everything you consider as based is just lies, propaganda actions to appear strong in the eyes of conservative population.

I figure a lot of people in Russia tend to want Communism back, is that true? I wouldn't be surprised seeing that Russia is the shining example of a socialist country standing up to capitalist powers for so many decades

>all the typos
fucking phone keyboard, this is embarassing

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watch this , but those protest not really a threat

Lol yeah hate speech in Russia I figured isn't just limited to saying mean things about others but Putin as well I guess

Yeah I read up about what happen, all your ports are in NATO controlled seas and Putin was nervous about Ukraine pulling the lease.

haha, very funny.

People just see what is going on with the west part of the world, all this faggotry, and thinks: "Ay, mama, it was better when we had Lenin, pravda, suka?"

plus, honestly, Russia now is the state of no ideology.
Media feeds us up about greatness of atheistic USSR, might of the Holy Empire, and current democratic Russian Federation.

Nice kikeboom meme. Get that from your aunt?

But you guys are taught about Marxism-Leninsim in school?

Some nostalgic elderly people with baby duckling syndrome.
They think good about communism for two reasons
>there was much less chaos and uncertainty, instead you were certainly getting fucked.
>it was in USSR when their dick got hard for the last time, old farts are always nostalgic what do you think?

We dont have that western kind of young commies only some nostagic old people who were traumatized by chaos and disaster of the collapse and living in the 90s

No one gives a fuck, really. Putin will get his 70 percents of votes, communist-one will get like 15, Zhir will get 10 and whatever-new-faces-there-are will get the remains. Then there will be load of videos on youtube with election frauds, 105% of votes in muslim republics, some meetings of liberals, then nothing and in the autumn some big thievery action.

No..?
Just a fast surface look at the history lessons, I believe.

Why would we be taught about it?

lmao

I just figure because you guys where the USSR and all I mean Communism is a HUGE part of your history
>70 percent of votes
top kek you can't find a politician in American anywhere close to that popular
I see, well like you said for them it was a better time

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> What do the Russians or Sup Forums think will happen?
stagnation

they might pull out some "reformer" from deeper gov whom will try to push some changes though

it's likely to happen

No one really cares about this lefty shit these days and this is good.

If he was how you painted him, he would've sold your country to us a while ago.

The vast majority of russian flags on Sup Forums are ultraliberal teenagers from 2ch, sort of Russian reddit. None of them have any living memory or interest in social, economic and political cataclysm the country went through in 1990s. They're easily gullible and subverted to malign influence. The figures they flock to, like Navalny and Sobchak, use exactly the same rhetorics and buzzwords Yeltsin used before usurping power in 1996. As an example, Yeltsin promised 18-27 years olds to abolish army conscription service, and so that group of electorate pool alone secured him landslide victory in the election. Now, when Putin had effectively reduced the portion of conscripts in the army to 1/3, this would no longer be an effective argument. So Navalny promises to legalize cannabis, increase wages and hand out free benefits to anyone who would vote for him. This is the primary target of populists, the young, uneducated and the stupid.

Fortunately, they're but a fraction of statistical error margin even within their own demographic, and figures like Navalny are seen as clowns and pariahs rather than serious candidates. This leads his supporters to be excessively vocal on social media to manufacture the semblance of "resistance" to the "regime". As for Sup Forums, the imageboards always attract disenfranchised minorities who tend to adopt the most anti-social ideologies.

What are these "changes"?

>others but Putin as well I guess
its the only reason they exist.
And that is the real reason western commies want the hate speech laws to.
You can easily supress oposition, nobody really cares about tranny feeling.

Relax Ivan. Nobody gives a shit about phone poasting.

Would you rather have an incompetent corrupt oligarchy in power? Yeltsin 2.0? Seems to me, that Siloviki are at least better at command and control. Our Britbong oligarchs are fucking idiots. Somebody has to steal right? Why not those who are better at it?

that is not that profitable and straight up portraits him as a traitor

> ultraliberal teenagers
> muh 1990s
> free stuff
one day, foreigners are going to recognize these mantras the same way my countrymen do

cut your dick please

just regular economical and social liberalisation, as it's fairly enough for Russia to get a kind of boost

most heavily corrupt politicians might be locked, too

>it was a better time
Honestly NO not better.
During USSR people had to illegally smuggle shit like western movies, music and chewing gum.
The society was orderly and stable but so fucking authotitarian and poor so fuck it.

It had STABILITY in being awful, the 90s were a complete disaster but now its OKish, better than before.

If USSR still existed the internet would be entirely banned.

Leave the thread, tovarish mayor

look , vatan pretend to be smart by writing wall of text. Пepeдёpни нa Пyтинa, вcпoмни кaк былo хyёвo в 90х и дaльшe нacлaждaйcя cтpaнoй 3 миpa, в кoтopyю Poccия пpeвpaщaeтcя.

I feel like he does what he thinks is best for Russia in trying to fight off western encroachment. But at the same time is pretty fucking tin horn and the Russian people can do way better.

It was more about putting pressure through civilian resistance support, like feeding opposition and somewhat coordinating, not fleet or other military things, he can be maneuvered to the position when he will have no choice but use extreme force and that will give west a reason to permaban people and arrest things, something that just will not do, his group just love living in Nice and London.
No.
We actually do. But they are very fringe minority.

Don't forget the IC and soros voting machines. I like the difficulty setting on high. It's how we roll, comrade. Reset is for girls and faggots.

Yeltsin was THE WORST, but siloviki arent so sweet either.

I am personslly share libertarian views but the authoritarians would never allow politics to even slowly creep in the direction of individual liberty.

>I just figure because you guys where the USSR and all I mean Communism is a HUGE part of your history

But marxism per se is a hostile and, I'd say, to some degree dangerous ideology for the current political regime. Dont be confused by the fact that putin's propaganda actively exploits the nostalgia for the soviet times.

>Russia in trying to fight off western encroachment
The world doesn't spin around the fucking West, the only relevant shit about this damn country was a safe way to get the soviet shadow economy legalized and preserve the federation from the collapse.

Both objectives were achieved and now it's matter of time for these orcs to realize legal transitions are required for this shithole to catch up the world average tempo of economical growth without constant expansion of the public sector.

Sure thing, lets teach poor as fuck people how being capitalist is bad and that their parents just fucking murdered them all to build workers paradise. When you are crooked oligarch with fascist leanings.

I'm just saying for like those older people they see it as a better time, it was really a us against them mentality I figure. Real nationalistic, even though you where communist.
I see
most of what I know is from this
youtu.be/v3C_5bsdQWg
True, Putin seems nostalgic about old Russia. But I would be too if I was Russian because it's who you where
Well Putin says it like it is sometimes, if there was no Putin then Russia would become a vessel instead of a sovereign state

Need I to remind you that Putin was a bandit in 90-s, stealing stuff, underling to Sobchak, respects Gaidar and is supported by Chubais. Appointed to be president by the Yeltsin no less. I guess not, so fuck off, shill.

>I mean Communism is a HUGE part of your history

And the best part.
its like saying "Holy inquisition is a huge part of Catholic history"
If Russian empire didn't fall we would be the most prosperous nation on earth just because we own the most shit on this planet.
It is because of communism we're poor and plagued by corruption.

>If Russian empire didn't fall we would be the most prosperous nation on earth just because we own the most shit on this planet.

But we do have exactly that. Just mixed with actual bandits, cartel-tier ones, ironning people, group rapings, that sort of bandits.

He'll probably pick an actual successor to take over in 2024, will try to arrange a peaceful transition of power, and take the role of an advisor. Otherwise, if it's a Medvedev situation, he'll be too old in 2030, and that doesn't bode well for him.

kek

I see, well interesting history either way in my honest opinion

Well you see every other rich nation in Europe are doing just fine right now. Ours is bigger and there's more valuable stuff in here but our economy is so fucked up we manage to be poor while having almost everything in our hands.

Like most of the world's titanium and gas.

>Well you see every other rich nation in Europe are doing just fine right now.
Indeed, they're doing fine due to being rich. Otherwise, they wouldnt be doing fine.

But the question here - what makes you think that the Russian Empire would've been able to become as rich as the West? No premises for it at all (except for dreams of russian nationalists).

we need this

Well most of Europe is dependent on Russia fuels, so I don't see why you guys aren't rich

kek

>I don't see why you guys aren't rich
Because we sell raw materials rather than goods made out of them.
and after that we buy the finished products back.

Imagine
>be a lumberjack
>sell 10$ worth of wood
>the carpenter makes 1000$ worth of wooden furniture out of it
>spend 8 out of those 10$ to buy some funtiture for yourself from the carpenter
>the carpenter is rich and you are poor

This is how it works.