Why did fascism fail in Spain?

Why did fascism fail in Spain?

Same reason fascism fails everywhere.
It dosent work.

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>takes all the worlds greatest (((powers))) and 6 years to (fail to) stop it.

t. (You)

It only stopped working in Spain due to Franco dying In his older years. After that the country was (((sold))) out

Bilderberg forced Franco to "put" King Juan Carlos. They have resigned Juan Carlos and put his son. Another shit mason

Still stopped it. Flawed system dosent matter if anyone or everyone could crush you.

>still stopped it

Franco chose the King as his successor, and designed how the constitution would work. None of those who commited crimes against humanity ever "saw justice", and some went on to be ministers in the democracy.

Don't think it can be said "Fascism", or specifically Francoism, lost.

>its a flawed system because it couldn't take on almost all of the world
Granted Imperialism was a mistake, but that doesn't invalidates fascism.

He looks like Theo Hiddema.

real fascism has never been tried

If a resurgency of fascisim happened in America and we took over the entire world it would still eventually fail because it is a flawed and retarded system.

It didn't

The problem is Franco fucked up on who he gave leadership to on his death and fascism was dismantled by the new leader after Franco died. Spain was much better off under fascism than it is now under capitalism

they probably think military-industrial complex=fascism

Franco was never a real fascist, he kept the Falange around for flavor, who were the actual fascists, but kept cucking them when it came to actual policies

>Why did fascism fail in Spain?
It was successful actually

No kidding

Just like how American capitalism definitely isn't collapsing degenerating into globalism and fucking up

>If a resurgency of fascisim happened in America and we took over the entire world it would still eventually fail because it is a flawed and retarded system.
According to Jews who when given the chance effectively modeled their own nation off of NatSoc Germany.

I believe you :)

Good for me we are arguing about fascism and not capitalism then huh?

Jews will be Jews it dosent effect me at all. Convince me then. Why would I give up the power I can acheive in a capitalist society for NatSoc?

Spain is a fucked up country. It's not that fascism failed in Spain, it's that Spanish government has absolutely sucked for hundreds of years now. Their only time of relevance was during the age of exploration and when they had colonies in the Americas and other places around the world. Spain was wealthy and rich because of resources extracted from those colonies.

And I'm not being and SJW here, but that's really how it worked. Whereas the English colonists would settle, Spanish colonists just had mestizo children and helped ship Silver, Gold, and cash crops back to Spain. As a result Spain became extremely rich. This led to Spain's downfall. They just used all of their gold to buy pre-made furniture and other manufactured goods from France and the Netherlands.

Basically they spent like crazy and then they lost all of their colonies by the end of the 1800s. Whereas by 1900 Britain, France, Germany, and other places in Europe had fully industrialized, Spain hadn't even really started. They had no significant manufacturing history outside of art and so their economy was absolutely shit without the colonies propping them up.

This is why Spain succumbed to civil war unlike other European countries. It was so poor that communism (and anarchism I guess) seemed like a really viable and desirable option for a lot of people. Of course Franco won the war, and Spain remained fascist for decades and modernized in that time. Franco basically helped Spain catch up to the rest of Europe as much as they could.

The problem is that there is really only so much Franco could do. Spain will never have the economy that other European nations do unless there are serious changes. And quite frankly the Spanish people are content to limp along. They don't like to work very hard. Can't say I blame them, Spain is beautiful and drinking wine and eating olives is great, you don't need a lot of money to really live nice there.

Cult of Personalities basically. I wouldn't say Fascism is as flawed as say, Communism, but is it certainly flawed when you don't have an excellent way of transfer of power on ruler death. Also, Franco created a cult of personality, and then the ruler dies which kind of ruined it.
With Franco dead, and the more liberal (well, most people were more liberal then Franco) King in power, people could campaign for a liberal democracy (constitutional democracy but meh) and he caved.

I'm saying American capitalism is failing on its own fascism had to be fought by literally all the world powers combined

Franco technically was more technocratic post-1950 or so.

>Jews will be Jews it dosent effect me at all.
>dosent effect me
I guess you wouldn't give up a ZOG traitor government that works in your favour. Juan.

The fascist ideology in the Iberian Peninsula was strongly attached to their leaders (Franco and Salazar) it flourished under their rule but didn't survived without their guidance. The system was not a fail, it just didn't made sense without their main figures, so it died with them.

The transfer of power has been a fucky thing for all ideologies and countries though

Even in America you have had leaders like obongo and hell I guarantee if George Washington saw America today it's not at all like how he wanted it

That is spurious reasoning and requires for propositions to justify the conclusion it is hinting at. For if were to take percentage of population support x political party or views why is it that communism, which was roughly equal in popularity, or the more popular parties did not succeed?

fpbp

It was success.. It failed everywhere else.

It caused a world war?
Sounds pretty shit.

Franco wasn't a Fascist, he was just an authoritarian monarchist and militarist. He destroyed the falangist movement and made it into a mockery.

Not sure, but communism is rising in portugal. Was there in october and saw billboards in every city promising pay for recruitment into the socialist party.

Because Communism leeches parasitically off of the Liberal government which everyone is fed up with whereas Fascism works in stark contrast to it.

It inevitably gave way to democracy because there was no fascist superpower to support it. If Germany held up then spain would have stayed fascist

Yes that is an additional proposition which distinguishes the data which is not present in the current argument its basically saying 13% of Germans voted Nazi and LOOK WHERE THAT GOT THEM and saying 13% or whatever number of Americans sympathise with that and that because it happened in Germany with those numbers it will happen in America.

This. Fuck Franco for letting Jose Antonio die in a republican prison.

Yes, the socialist party is big in Portugal. The communist party seems to be dying but they have the left bloc that is more extreme and is or was gaining popularity.

No Jews caused a world war in order to eradicate it

Poortugal was never fascist though that was Spain

Considering the growth of the far-right, how any serious opposition we're facing can't stem said growth and how similar much of the western world is to pre-NatSoc Germany I'd say it's all but guaranteed at this point.
The only thing the left could realistically do at this point is push for a faster demographic shift but all that does is sway more people to our side.

>franco
>fascism

None of them was "fascist" they had their own distinct identities but both were very influenced by the fascism of Mussolini.

nice analysis, appreciated

Maybe, maybe not. If it were to ever happen I'd think that the United States and by extension the world, whose relative peacefulness between the world powers relies on America's militarist, political and economic might it can wield over other nations, would have to go through a catastrophe similar to those of the 20th century and it is whether or not civilisation will survive that.

It is also that NatSoc and Communism in a way also presuppose one another and tend to arise in similar chaotic conditions, a Communism that is unbounded from its masters could be a serious threat but perhaps by having it in the institutions and the game of identity politics has taken their teeth.

>doesn't effect me
It's already affecting you, idiot; can't even use the right words to express yourself.

Are you a capitalist? Lol

he just gave it away in the 70's, just like Chile fascism is short solution to how fucked up your country is either by Jews, commies or degeneracy.

>Fail

He restored the monarchy and the king turned out to be a cuck. Don't trust the monarchy dice roll.

Franco wasnt fascist, he crushed the few fascist elements that were supporting him

Humans innately want to be free after millennias of serfdom.

fpbp

What do you mean? Franco lived till the 70’s?

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How can anything non-imperialistic not be crushed?

Because Franco let Jose Antonio be killed by left wing parasites back in 1936, he backstabbed the carlists and once he consolidated his power he smashed the fascist elements

If you ask people in Spain, they say it didn't fail, it just changed its name.

Wrong. The just have billboards. No real supporters. They came last in the latest election. More people are disregarding communism because it just sucks.

Because the Spanish are incompetent. The fascists grew old, died, and were replaced by a generation of corruption, greed, and sheer incompetence demonstrated best in the children’s tale of Marijuana Rajoy and the Thousand and One Sobres.

Dad died

Assuming you mean Francism, it was successful in every respect.
It died because of the leadership hole left after him.

How is rule for 36 years failure? He wasn't really personally a fascist as he was very supportive of the catholic church, but he included the falangists in his coalition of nationalist parties

franco was not a real fascist, a real fascist understands his country history and wants to protect his traditions, he did not

Fascists hardly care about culture, they wanted to destroy the church and create a republic. They were no better than the leftist republicans.

communism is dying here. Most of the communist party members are old and when that generation is gone it will become irrelevant. Socialist party is in government atm, but they are like the british labor party, not like commies. Still suck, but not that much.
The problem is that the Left Block, a SJW nigger loving, refugee accepting, pro-abortion, anti-portuguese, anti-euro, pro universal basic income is on the rise. Why people vote for that shit is beyond me.

>they wanted to destroy the church and create a republic
well then franco wasn't a fascist then, just an ally of them when it was convenient just like when he was an ally of liberal capitalist republics

>The problem is that the Left Block, a SJW nigger loving, refugee accepting, pro-abortion, anti-portuguese, anti-euro, pro universal basic income is on the rise. Why people vote for that shit is beyond me.
because that's what women want

Franco wasn't fascist. He was a cuckservative catholic.

Yes, people often call him one which is incorrect. He did also have a nato partnership with the U.S in the 50s if I'm correct.

>Why did fascism fail in Spain?

wew lad

You would be surprised. I would say that it is around 50/50. I would blame the education system (which for the most part is ran by women) who turns everyone into a guilt ridden pussy but I really don't know

>anyone or everyone
Kind of a big difference.

>Destroy fascist systems in a war or by """supporting""" a controlled opposition
>Fascism dozen't work goyz xDDD
fuck off mutt

The leader of Spainish fascism was executed by the Republicans in the initial stages of the war. It was actually one of the big reasons why the war started in the first place.

So there is the Falange faction that is now leaderless, and Franco comes along and allies with them to fuck off the Marxists.

But Franco never fully embraces Fascism. He is a conservative catholic, not a revolutionary.


Franco names the reinstituted monarch as his successor. His successor subsequently reverses everything that Franco achieved.

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To be fair Portugal was one of the last Western countries to be destroyed.

It took the CIA staging a coup to destroy your Empire.