Have you taken the Moggpill?

Have you taken the Moggpill?

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Of course, kuppo

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I'd love to see him as PM. He's how we Americans imagine the British.

Could use a moustache, maybe just a little one in the middle?

Completely

Potest Solum Unum Mogg

based. for the love of god i cant remember who he was debating(?) but he totally btfo'd that glasses chewing, smiling like he knows something bitch ass commie

I ate a crate of moggpills for breakfast.

yes, have you?

yes, would be his catamite. (((/ournewword/)))

Of course.

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Europe Needs mog as well

Moggpill? Can someone give me a quick rundown?

Jacob Rees-Mogg is a Tory MP that has for years been regarded as a bit of a joke, nicknamed the 'Right Honourable Member of Parliament for the 19th Century" for his conservative values including a belief that abortion and same-sex marriage is wrong. He has always been one of the strongest champions of Brexit and is basically a walking talking parody, affecting an over the top posh RP accent and driving a car like something out of Wacky Races. The problem for the centrist wing of the Tory party is that two weeks ago he became chair of the European Research Group, a powerful collective of Brexiteer MPs. Since then, he has used his immunity to being sacked (he is an MP, not part of the government) to tear into Philip Hammond, humiliate David Davis and cause Anna Soubry and Justine Greening to threaten resignation. In less than a week after an Antifa group tried to shut a free speech debate down with him in he has gone from being a joke to being considered a serious contender for party leadership. He is now increasingly being seen, with his frankness and strong principles, as an antidote to Corbyn. His rise is meteoric by Tory standards seeing as how he has never even held a cabinet position, and his appearance on the scene is terrifying left-wing Tories. He is now 4-1 odds on favourite for being the next leader of the Tory party, and by virtue of the next general election not being until 2022, being Prime Minister of the UK.

TL;DR: He's /ourguy/, or at least as close as possible to it, within the Tory party.

No, I don't take soyboys larping as lords seriously.

He's not a conservative, he's a thatcherite.
Real conservatives DO NOT support muh free markets like some mantra, liberals and libertarians do. Conservatism is about taking a common sense and practical approach to politics, not an ideological one.

love this video, love the mogg

You're conflating social and political ideology. He's a social conservative, and a market liberal. I don't agree with him that free trade is the answer for everything, seeing as how it has fucked the white working class, but oh well.

You sound like Anna Soubry, who described him as "not a real conservative" the other day. The irony is just astounding.

>Conservatism is about taking a common sense and practical approach to politics

Compromise and Blairism have failed, and Mogg seems aware of that. Corbyn's success stems from a perception of him sticking to principles and ideological purity. The Tories have to do what all successful political parties have done since time memorial - react in kind. They have burned too many bridges with the centre ground to keep fucking about with floating voters at the expense of alienating their own members.

Can't bog the Mogg.

Yes. Hopefully he’ll be PM in 2022. He’s not in the Tory cabinet so he won’t have any dirt on him after/during the inevitable shitshow of brexit, so I think PM Mogg is a reasonable possibility.

>Blairism have failed
Mogg is Blair economically.
Blairism is an extension of Thatcher, that's why Thatcher called Blair her greatest achievement.
>You're conflating social and political ideology. He's a social conservative, and a market liberal.
Both things are hostile to each other, even contradictory. You can't be a social conservative and be a market liberal. Economics shapes the social/moral foundation of society. An economic system that allows you to buy or sell virtually anything will lead to degeneracy, as men will naturally gravitate towards degeneracy because its profitable to do.
It's like saying you're an ethnonationalist, and then inviting blacks to your country to work and expecting your country to remain ethnonationalist.

Checked.

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Here's Owen Jones and Mogg.

Checked.

>Mogg is Blair economically

True to an extent, but then Blair was a Eurocuck who wanted foreign mass-migration, letting his ideological leftism damage any real advantages of global free trade. You don't need to have free movement of people to have free trade.

>Both things are hostile to each other, even contradictory. You can't be a social conservative and be a market liberal.

I agree only to an extent, but as I said they are distinct. The idea that economics completely dominates society sounds like Marxist and Hegelian nonsense to me. I believe economic systems derive from politics and culture, not the other way round.

>It's like saying you're an ethnonationalist, and then inviting blacks to your country to work

False equivalence.

This.
Conservatives are unrelatable to the average plebeian pushing 40-to-60 hours a week, because most Conservatives try to appease everybody but end up pleasing nobody, and hardly any of them have any outspoken convictions. Mogg and Daniel Hannan are the only Conservatives I know who are resoundingly in favour of leaving the EU. However, those two individuals make up but a fraction of the party.

Brexit is a perfect example of this ‘identity crisis’; instead of this process being undertaken by a Conservative who voted Leave (or one that’s completely neutral on the issue—which is perhaps impossible), the process has been co-opted by Remain voters since the vote. No progress has been made and the Leave voters—who won—are feeling demoralised because of it (or at least I am), all the while being blamed for it. 2019 may be a ‘hard date’, but I’m not holding my breath. I know just how slimy our politicians are. Conservatives have mishandled this situation horribly; their reputation is irreparable unless they elect somebody like Mogg/Hannan who aren’t afraid to state and stand by their convictions.

If the Conservative Party don’t put up a leader who’s relatable, then they’ll lose my support. Once we leave the EU, the Conservative Party can go fade into obscurity for all I care.

I thought Britain was the other country that called fiscal conservatism and fiscal libertarianism the same thing.

>An economic system that allows you to buy or sell virtually anything
Can you explain how this is a fiscal issue and not a social one?

I'm surprised I've never heard of this guy, anybody wanna tell me about some other based British politicians to check out?

You have to remember that the press are lying to us about the talks being a shambles. Technically Britain could wait until the EU desperately needed refinancing by London banks and then strike a deal

You're conflating the conservative party with conservatism. The conservative party is not conservative. My issue is that Mogg is also not a conservative, despite pretending to be one. He's a liberal from the 19th century, not a conservative.
> You don't need to have free movement of people to have free trade.
I'm not sure why you're making the entire issue about free trade, that's not entirely what I have an issue with. Mogg, like the other Thatcherites, are ideological capitalists and want to privatise everything by principle, mostly because it's good for themselves and their mates. I have no problem with capitalism, as long as it's used correctly. There several cases in this country wherein it's not properly used, such as with the railways.
>I agree only to an extent, but as I said they are distinct.
Just because something is marxist doesn't mean it's wrong. Use your brain instead of thinking with your emotions.
It's no coincidence that the traditional world we want has disappeared with the rise of capitalism. Point to one traditional hyper capitalist society. One doesn't exist. Capitalism, through its drive for ever growing profits forces men to chase profit at the expense of everything else (if you don't, someone else will and they'll out compete you). Considerations of morality or traditionalism are afterthoughts, if that. It does absolutely nothing for the bottom line. In fact, it hinders it. Keeping women at home lowers profits by decreasing the supply of labour and productivity. Not bringing in cheap foreign labour lowers profits by keeping wages higher and decreasing consumers.
No capitalist in his right mind will put abstract ideals like 'nation' or 'traditionalism' over profit and to keep himself in business. You are awfully bluepilled.
You can't have both. Do you want more money or a traditional society?

>It's no coincidence that the traditional world we want has disappeared with the rise of capitalism.
Capitalism has completely disappeared in the modern world. Are you kidding me dude? You really think for the past hundred years or so governments around the world have gotten MORE capitalist?

True, very true.

mogg really is our guy, I want to see him lead the UK. If he wins can the UK make Australia a colony again? Our politicians are scum fucks, pls help us

The UK needs an NRx candidate to save them from the fucking corbynites

Fuck off with your stupid shit.

If I were Australian I would be begging for this to happen regardless of if this guy wins or not.

wew boy, my body is ready for him. Im feeling the moggmentum

Stay out of this yank, you don't have a clue.
You're a libertarian moron that thinks his little baby capitalism in the 19th century could stay exactly the same. No shit, capitalism was different when it existed primarily at a local or national level.
What we have now is the direct and logical outgrowth of that system. Plenty of people, both from the left and right, including many Christians, predicted this would happen because of capitalism. But keep living in your dream world hoping to bring back a transitional system. You're like a guy trying wanting to fit a square into a triangle hole.

All Glory to the Mogg.

THE UK WILL RISE AGAIN, FROM THE ASHES A PHOENIX WILL BE BORN. FOR QUEEN AND COUNTRY

I heard Mogg got attacked on the Nigel show what happened?

When have I voiced support for any economic policy? Every government in the world has been adding more regulations, to imply that they are practicing capitalism all of a sudden just because they are importing shitskins for "economic purposes" is straight up retarded.

This.

We're fucked, the best hope that you have is that Christianity is true or something else that is transcendent to help you rise above this decadent world.

Great man

I love that he is just unapologetically who he is.

I love that he's upfront about his beliefs and doesn't bend to any bullshit criticism. I actually trust him because I believe he wants to make England great again and restore it to its former beauty and power.

English Renaissance when?

NOW

It's time for a CANZUK alliance. Restore the anglo-sphere. Who are the best mogg equivalents in each of these countries today?

>“Basically I want people to be able to get on with their lives without the government bossing them about. I’m all in favour of nannies but not the nanny state.” -MOGG

I seriously hope he becomes a contender in the 2022 election

Seems reasonable enough.

Yes. Imperial Federation when?

RESTORE THE EMPRE

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>mfw my dream is finally coming true

When we're out of the EU and we get the Mogg, then we will get the new Empire.

We must bring all the countries of the commonwealth and the former empire together once more. The EU is becoming neo-prussia, the western and Mediterranean European countries are turning on the central European powers who have the power in the EU, I honestly believe we will see a repeat of world war one and a restoration of the empire will ensure they're defeated once again.

This LARPING is fucking cringy. Off yourselves.

Fuck off Mohamed

Fuck off, Jeremy.

I bet he gets lots of "land conservation" subsidies.

I agree this is the right definition of conservatism in all eu countries. Europe has a big political history and shouldn't be compared to american flawed political compass.

Which party or politician supports the traditional conservatism in UK?
And what's the role of toryism in british right wing?

I saw him on my youtube recommended for the first time yesyerday, and now this thread, coincidence?

Mogg 2022.

Who gave u the right to speak, ovendodger?

Jacob Rees-Mogg is what someone thinks of when they hear the word British. He must be elected as Prime Minister.

Just like how Trump is the quintessential American.

Mogg now.
Mogg tomorrow.
Mogg forever.

Of course

No right needed Muhammed, continue to suck some Rapefugee cock faggot.

>Hopefully he’ll be PM in 2022
Hopefully he'll be PM by Christmas

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you probably haven't even read the conservative manifesto, and certainly don't understand conservatism if you think it shouldn't support the free market. The basis is simply to reform what is no longer practicable and conserve the good principles of the country. The free market is a principle Britain had maintained for centuries, a true conservative would support it.

toryism is essentially big business and farmers going into politics and prioritizing economics over social issues. It has a long history though and was actually quite radical during the Napoleonic period and with later governments under Disraeli. Ideology is never the basis of tory reform though, essentially reason and self interest are.

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>you probably haven't even read the conservative manifesto, and certainly don't understand conservatism if you think it shouldn't support the free market. The basis is simply to reform what is no longer practicable and conserve the good principles of the country. The free market is a principle Britain had maintained for centuries, a true conservative would support it.
Why would I waste my time reading the conservative manifesto of a party that isn't conservative?

Stop making up words and go read a basic history of conservative philosophy. You can start with Roger Scruton's "How to be a conservative", until then sit your fat arse down and don't talk about things you don't understand.

I'm gonna go and do that.

Mogg must become PM.

>Mogg, like the other Thatcherites, are ideological capitalists and want to privatise everything by principle

I don't think you know much about either Thatcher or Mogg. Thatcher was never as obsessed with privatisation as modern socialist commentators like to crow. She explicitly ruled out privatisation of stuff like the railway network. Major and Blair were more autistic about the policy than Thatcher herself ever was.

>the rest of your post

Oh, so you actually are Marxist. I'll keep my response simple then. Capitalism is ok. Capitalism with some degree of regulation to constrain its excesses is very good, and a man like Mogg who is willing to put nation and social fabric ahead of pure capitalism is a good thing to boot.

>You can't have both. Do you want more money or a traditional society?

They are not mutually exclusive. GDP growth is not everything, as the UK is quickly finding out.

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Quintessentially British.

improved

final one. screw it. im user

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Mogg, more like zog. His votes on foreign policy haven't been good.

But then he'd look like Hitler

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I am from the future. On Aprill 25th Mogg will become PM.

It's actually

>faggot

>But then he'd look like Hitler

One of the first pictures that pops up when you google his name in the UK is pic related. The Mirror's caption is

>Tory Jacob Rees-Mogg snapped from an unfortunate angle as he faced down anti-austerity protesters

No not taking a faggot pill

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itll be for king and country when the queen dies in the summer this year. god rest her soul

Screencapped for posterity.

I'm betting May 27th, after a bruising leadership contest.

>But then he'd look like Hitler

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Redpilled views my albino friend.

Conservative means defending the established. So under neoliberalism, that means defending neoliberalism and the elite that benefits from it. Of course you are correct to say youc an't have nationalism and traditional values in neoliberalism, and woe the dumb who think Tories represent those values.

The truth is only a relaxed competitive environment with more social safety nets and community can exact a return to the traditional values and healthy nationalism. Time and lack of desperate consumerism and survivalism would refocus people on what matters: family, culture. This, however, the establishment, is working hard to try to obscure.

a caricature?

Corbyn's a caricature of a Marxist. The mainstream right needs its own.

the mainstream right also needs Corbyn it just doesn't know it.

Erm Corbyn ain't marxist.

>Corbyn ain't marxist.

The man that called Marx a 'great economist', called for the rehabilitation of Trotsky and wants to take property in state ownership isn't a Marxist?