What's the most influential shoujo of all time?

What's the most influential shoujo of all time?

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Alice in Wonderland.

I'm referring to Japan's anime/manga industry.

Has there ever been worse character designs?

What else are we talking about? It is the most influential to anime/manga.

Cutie Honey

>not loving classic shoujo character design
You are a true loser.

That's shonen you retard.

>but muh demography.

Who're you quoting?

Shoujo aesthetics are honestly so fucked

>implying
Shoujo art is the absolute best. I love how over the top and detailed everything is.

Princess Knight, Dezaki and then Ikuhara ontop of that both built everything from that point.

Unironically this

Ace wo Nerae was really influential or Sports Shoujo, and influenced and was parodied widely, but Princess Knight was kinda the progenitor of it all

You're thinking of Magical Girls

Honourable mention, Alice in Wonderland has probably had the most influence on shoujo out of all western literature

I'm amazed at how almost anything manga related can be traced back to Tezuka.

Though influenced extremely heavily by Princess Knight, I feel like Lady Oscar was kind of the catalyst point that turned Tezuka's original vision into a more "Modern" style Shoujo aesthetic. The story elements are very similar, with Sapphire being a little bit more eccentric than Oscar, but I feel like everything down to the over complicated love polygon thing going on has been emulated in almost every mainstream shoujo since.

>influential or Sports Shoujo

I watched Gunbuster two hours ago, it's a homage to this, right?

He's by far the most important pioneer of story manga.

>homage
It's a pretty blatant repackaging, yes.

>Ace wo Nerae!
>Top wo Nerae!
Wow user, I think you may be on to something.

>18:37:00
>18:37:00
hivemind post time

>Gunbuster
>The Cutie Honey movie
>Idolized Ikuhara
>Married a mangaka who made something heavily inspired by Meg the Witch.
Hideki Anno really loves Shoujo content, huh?

I think he likes mecha and monster movies more though.

Inuyasha

Your pic, Heart of Thomas, Itazura na Kiss, HYD. I'd tentatively say Princess Knight, too, but I know very little about shoujo manga around that time or earlier, so I can't actually back that up.

Oh, and Mahoutsukai Sally, I'm retarded.

It's this, this is the most influential.

>Dezaki and then Ikuhara ontop of that both built everything from that point.
What sort of anime-centric viewpoint is this? Are we pretending the 24-gumi don't exist, or what?

I don't know shit about manga to be honest with you. Never had much of an interest in it. So it is hardly surprising that someone who does might see my viewpoint as anime centric.

the characters just need to toughen up

shit, meant "for", not "or", meaning that it greatly influenced sports-related shoujo manga and anime that followed it

Here are some of them.

Everything Ikeda drew.

Chikako Urano essentially ushered in the shoujo era.

THIS
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But I didn't expect to be more than the name.
Oota is such Munataka rip-off, hilarious.

Sailor Moon/Sakura CardCaptor

>Munataka rip-off
Munakata isn't that original himself, either. Besides the whole terminal illness storyline.

Poe Clan completely changed the way shoujo manga was published but Heart of Thomas has some of the most iconic drawings, like this.

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The Most Holy Shoujo Maria

yeppo

Vive la france

Why was MA such a bitch?

>About to post Chihayafuru
>It's Josei

Anyway, Lovely Complex,KareKano, Love so Life and Nana

>influential

Only Nana.

this. saying it's VnB or AnW is like saying ashita no joe was more influential than evangelion. pretty much "k" the post.

Classic shoujo art is pretty atrocious my man.

Nah, you're just a pleb.

Rose of Versailles

It's good but too new to be Influential.

Me

Inuyasha is a shonen

Isn't that obvious?

If I think about what traits of shoujo ended up spreading most into other areas of the industry I think yuri and mahou shoujo. For yuri Oniisama e, Marimite. For mahou shoujo Ribon no Kishi, Sailor Moon.
It's sad not much is being pumped out for female audiences in either genre anymore. The 00s were a great time for modern mahou shoujo targeted at the older children audience like Shugo Chara, Tokyo Mew Mew, Sugar Sugar Rune, etc. That trend just vanished into thin air.

Holy shit where the FUCK can I find this in the original japanese?

If you were thinking of Magical Girls then it would be Mahou Shoujo Sally, not Cutie Honey.

I might be wrong, but I've always considered Versailles no Bara more like a josei than a shoujo. Even if you put it into shoujo it is clearly meant for the bigger girls.

Is this a self-made list? Could some of the ones that aren't well-known be explained? (I tried Hot Road and it was alright, stopped after a few chapters.)

Versailles ran in a shoujo magazine so it's shoujo. Magazine demographic really means jack shit. Even among magazines for a certain demographic you'll have ones that target older or younger age groups. There are shoujo magazines out there that explicitly target adult women; it all comes down to the image an individual magazine wants to promote.

>Shugo Chara, Tokyo Mew Mew, Sugar Sugar Rune
>all Nakayoshi manga
>closest spiritual successor Kigurumi Guardians still on hiatus
Anyway, idols happened.

>Kigurumi Guardians
I was literally thinking of that as I wrote the post. Hoshino Lily was so close to saving us.

Well, that was kinda my point. It's marketed as shoujo, but I think a woman in the late teens would appreciate it much more than a prepubescent one.

Show had some good music desu
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I liked 90s Shojo aesthetics like Kodomo no Omocha and Itazura na Kiss

If you want over the top detail you read Seinen manga

I'm mostly talking about this shit

Yeah I don't like that ugly as fuck 70s art-style.

on my hard drive ;-)

Sailor Moon?

Wrong.

SM took elements from almost all the Shoujos mentioned in the thread.

Glass no Kamen.

I love the roughness in the first anime.
>it worked for Joe
>what do you mean it's for girls