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James Price
Times may seem dark right now, and society morally depraved but fear not - for God in His Almighty Wisdom and Mercy will restore the world to greatness soon.
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Jack Howard
>Prot talking about preaching the whole Word of God when he's using a Bible with missing books.
Justin Wood
Ha ha, you get your fake phony bible out of here with your made up books. Ever read Revelation 22:19? Adding made up books to the Bible is frowned upon heavily.
Gabriel Ross
>Missing books?
The (((dead sea scrolls)))?
Landon Robinson
Catholics will all burn in hell for eternity
Ayden Powell
>Revelation 22:19
That verse specifically talks about removing verses from Revelation, one of the books Luther tried to remove.
The use of the books the Prots removed is affirmed by the Early Church Fathers, such as Origen
Henry Baker
HOW? HOW CAN I DEFEND MY COUNTRY AND TURN THE OTHER CHEEK?
Sebastian Cook
Psalm 8 (KJV)
>1 O Lord, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.
>2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
>3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
>4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
>5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
>6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
>7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
>8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
>9 O Lord our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!
Austin Richardson
This essay is a good response to 'turn the other cheek'.
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Hudson Johnson
Or rather I should say a good explanation
Jason Hughes
Good think prots decided the canon.
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Adam Lewis
Christianity is a lie, born out of a Jewish conspiracy to infiltrate and eventually conquer the Roman Empire via the cult of Mithras.
Juan Miller
Psalm 23 (KJV)
>1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
>2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
>3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
>4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
>5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
>6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
Aaron White
Jesus Christ is the answer
I can't wait to see the new mel Gibson movie
Hudson Walker
Read this essay for a refutation of the Mithraism claim.
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Nicholas Morris
I will - cheers! Check out this one in favour of it:
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Elijah Lopez
Unfortunately my computer won't let me access it - it's blocked as a phishing site. Any other links I can follow?
Andrew Brown
Andrew Young
Ah yes, Jesus. That guy who always sets me up to fail. Lies to my face, then trips me as I'm walking by. Tells me to deny everything in my nature and become some sort of walking-dead non-thing. Come, impale yourself on the spike of piety.
Hudson Butler
>not knowing that "turning the other cheek" was a reference to Lamentations 3:30
Charles Parker
> If not Ill tell you an old story about the Desert Fathers, but it's so shocking that I'm not going to tell it unless you need it.
Can any user tell me this old story about the desert fathers?
Luis James
Interesting - thanks for that. I think the two positions are more complimentary than in conflict.
I don't buy the idea that Christianity is a facsimile of Mithraism - nor that the Roman esoteric
society has any connection with the Persian Mithras of Zoroastrianism. It's more the narrative
that Mithraism in Rome was a secret society infiltrating the centres of secular power culminating
in the adoption of Christianity as the official state religion that I find compelling. As stated in the article
you linked Mithraism has more in common with the Masons - more a secret society than religion.
Hudson Price
How's the weather in TELL Aviv Kyle?
Luke Rogers
Thanks for having an open mind and reading it. I will read your article later when I get time to read the whole thing.
The original website I linked has essays on all the copycat/mythicist claims, if you ever get an urge to read more.
Henry Green
Neither of these offer recourse or pro active measures that don't just lead to bitterness.
Shakespeare's cowards die a 100 times is more apt to feeling of powerlessness.
Nicholas Taylor
REJOICE, GOYIM!!
RABBI YESHUA BLESSES YOU!!!
NOW GIVE AT LEAST 10% OF YOUR INCOME TO THE CHURCH OF YESHUA!!!!
Jacob Hernandez
there's a bunch of stories about the Desert Fathers
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Bumpin for the LORD
Landon Davis
Bumping
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Jackson Murphy
Help guys I'm falling away. I feel like the Jewish arguments make a lot of sense. How can one be of the Davidic line under a virgin birth? Seed (zera) is only passed through the father.
And aren't we on shaky ground when Matthew quotes Isaiah 7:14? The word is alma (young woman), not virgin (betulah). helP!
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Angel Ramirez
I wish I had faith that good will win.
God give me strength and forgive my doubt.
The blackpill is strong today.
Lincoln Morales
Can anyone explain to me why Christians worship human sacrifice?
Jason Barnes
Well that didnt take long lmao
Carter Ross
>The use of the books the Prots removed is affirmed by the Early Church Fathers, such as Origen
"The Council of Hippo in 393, and the third (according to another reckoning the sixth) Council of Carthage in 397, under the influence of Augustine, who attended both, fixed the catholic canon of the Holy Scriptures, including the Apocrypha of the Old Testament. It did not change until Martin Luther changed it 1200 years later. Catholics still read bibles with them 1900 years later.
Jesus and the Apostles read the Koine Greek Septuagint (LXX) - which include the deuterocanonical books.
Catholic Bible - The Septuagint - Deutercanonicals
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Parker Brown
yes, good question. The Talmud has ruled that any messianic candidate cannot die on his messianic mission.
Christians, why Jesus and not Bar Kochba?
Michael James
>Bar Kochba
died here
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on his "messianic mission"
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"Cochba [bar Kochba] ... tortured and killed the Christians who refused to aid him against the Roman army." - p. 42, Greek Apologists of the Second Century, Robert M. Grant, The Westminster Press, 1988.
"Another Christian apologist, Justin [Martyr], tells how ... Bar Kochba, the leader of the insurrection, ordered Christians alone to be executed if they would not deny and curse Jesus the Messiah." - Ibid.
"After the war the Jerusalem church, once Jewish, consisted only of Gentiles" - Ibid.
If anyone can be accused of turning Christianity into a Gentile religion, it is not Paul, nor the church leaders in Asia Minor, but rather Bar Kochba.
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Ethan Adams
im thinking about converting from catholic to southern baptist. Any anons on here have any arguments as to which denom is better? My beliefs are as follows
>bible is the number one source of authority
>pope and priests are not infallible, but are good and can offer guidance as long as their preachings align with the bible
>I believe we are saved through faith in God alone, not by actions on earth
>i do not believe in infant baptism, people should be baptized when they are adults and through their own free will, they must make the chose to follow God by themselves
so yeah im pretty much believe in all the prot/baptist teachings but im still kind of iffy, I dont like the fact that technically kikes and Mudslimes will also go to heaven because they believe in God
Robert Foster
>Help guys I'm falling away. I feel like the Jewish arguments make a lot of sense. How can one be of the Davidic line under a virgin birth? Seed (zera) is only passed through the father.
Is this some Talmudic thing? I've never heard anything about that. See Genesis 3:15 where God says the seed of a woman will trample the serpent's head. Women don't have seeds unless it were a virgin birth
Benjamin Ortiz
>And aren't we on shaky ground when Matthew quotes Isaiah 7:14? The word is alma (young woman), not virgin (betulah). helP!
The word Virgin is used in the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the OT, and it was the Septuagint that was used at the time of Christ and a few centuries before the Incarnation, and it's the one quoted by Christ and the Apostles, showing that it is correct while the (((Hebrew version))) isn't. Read up on the traditions about St. Simeon.
And even if this one about a virgin birth were wrong, there are others about it (see above) and there are still countless other prophesies about Christ that were fulfilled, just look at Isaiah 53 or Psalm 22 you would think they were written after Christ, but they were written centuries before.
Connor Moore
Yea. I wasn't arguing that Bar Kochba was the messiah. He was executed.
Jesus was crucified. What's the differentiating factor that makes Christians believe in Jesus? Wouldn't the Jews be *incentivized* to accept Jesus if he was the messiah?
- the temple would be rebuilt
- there would be world peace
etc
I do concede that Daniel 9 is troubling from the Jewish perspective (Messiah - cut off). Still researching.
Noah Cook
look into Orthodoxy
Luis Nguyen
may I be a servant of Jesus' peace.
Luis Anderson
It's based on Halakha. Normal Jewish law.
Scriptural basis from the Tanakh: Numbers 1:18
18 And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls.
"father's houses"
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Brandon Stewart
>>bible is the number one source of authority
Goto 1 Timothy 3:15
5 if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.
It is the CHURCH and not the BIBLE that is the pillar and bulwark of the truth for a Christian.
The ONE true and apostalic CHURCH founded by Jesus and who's authority was given to Peter.
John Bennett
Isaiah 53 definitely looks like Jesus. I was struck by the passage.
And ya, your point on the Septuagint is a good one. Jewish scholars also translated the word as 'virgin', centuries before Yeshua was born.
Thanks for your comment. I'll think about this.
Grayson Robinson
so? He was still legally from the house of David under Joseph, and biologically under Mary. And even so Mary's father's house was the house of David.
Juan Rodriguez
Well the Jews in the Bar Kochba rebellion were Edomites.
Herod the King of the Jews was and Edomite.
The Entire House of Herod was Edomite (Idumaean in Greek)
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Jesus was a Hebrew
Caleb Rogers
hey I can post graphs too kill yourself christkike
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Cooper Murphy
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Brandon Rivera
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>the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah
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>For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah
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>He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
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>He came to his own people, and even they rejected him.
His own people aka Jews.
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>You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Samaritans aka Gentiles.
JESUS WAS A JEW.
Ayden Brown
>Why do people care about berating an increasingly irrelevant religion anyway?
Because they're not irrelevant. They actively fund and even run many of the boats coming from Africa to Europe.
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Charles Young
Christianity is the cuck of religions
Wyatt Morris
en.wikipedia.org
>Konrad Hermann Joseph Adenauer was a German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963.
>He was the first leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), a Christian Democratic party that under his leadership became, and has since usually been the most influential party in the country.
>He displayed a strong dedication to a broad vision of market-based liberal democracy and anti-communism.
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>West Germany joined NATO in 1955
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>is the President of Germany, serving since March 2012. A former Lutheran pastor, he came to prominence as an anti-communist civil rights activist in East Germany
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>the daughter of Horst Kasner, a Lutheran pastor and a native of Berlin, and his wife Herlind, born in 1928 in Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland)
>is a German politician who is currently Chancellor of Germany. She is also the leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
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>From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement
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>first trade union in a Warsaw Pact country that was not controlled by a communist party.
>anti-Soviet social movement ranging from people associated with the Catholic Church
>CIA covert support
>In Sollicitudo rei socialis, a major document of Catholic Social Teaching, Pope John Paul II identifies the concept of solidarity with the poor and marginalized as a constitutive element of the Gospel and human participation in the common good.
More like, there never been more churches, while Christian Democrats didn't even exist in Socialism. Pro-refugee faggots are all Christian.
Aaron Ward
>The Jews thought (and think) that they are God's chosen people, but when Jesus came and said: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus", the Jews claimed He couldn't be their Messiah, so they convinced Pontio to crucify Him. Is exactly because Jesus was for all humanity and not only for the Jews that (((they))) killed Him, and since that moment, every nation in the entire globe see Jews as a negative influence to any country they appear in. And with good reason, every Catholic / Christian nation up until Vatican II and some decades before, had prohibition or persecution of Jews.
You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
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Mary's line is traditionally disregarded as seed propagates from the father.
The final problem I see is this: Joseph isn't even a pretender to the throne! He's from Jeconiah, and we know that his line cannot produce the messiah (Jeremiah 22:30 - "Record this man as if childless, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his offspring will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule anymore in Judah").
Am I just getting tricked?
Jason Wilson
Amen and amen.
Josiah Walker
Have any of you asked God to reveal himself?
I've asked him if he's Allah, the Jewish God, or the Christian one.
Silence.... why? No dreams, signs, or anything.
Is the request faulty, perhaps (`perverse generation asks for a sign`)?
Bentley Davis
>until everything is accomplished.
Jacob Lewis
>(shortly after describing the apocalypse and “the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory”)
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
>Mark 13:30
When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
>Matthew 10:23
Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.
>Luke 9:27
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,
>Ephesians 6:5
Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what is yours, do not demand it back.
>Luke 6:30
Never pay back evil for evil to anyone Respect what is right in the sight of all men.
>Romans 12:17
But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.
>Luke 6:35
Nathan Brown
1 Thessalonians 5:15
See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people.
1 John 4:20 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
1 John 2:9 - He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Matthew 6:15 - But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Luke 6:27 - But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you
Colossians 3:13 - Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also [do] ye.
Romans 12:17
Never pay back evil for evil to anyone Respect what is right in the sight of all men.
Luke 6:35
"But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men."
Luke 6:29
"Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either."
Oliver Lee
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If the Apostles made it all up I think they would have not used Jeconiah seeing how well they know the Bible, so there's some reasoning behind it.
Jacob Williams
Matthew 5:39
"But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also
Proverbs 17:5
He who mocks the poor taunts his Maker; He who rejoices at calamity will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 25:21
If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink;
King James Bible
If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again.
1 Corinthians 6:7
The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you are thoroughly defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated?
Matthew 5:40
if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well;
Samuel Turner
Imminent end of the world:
1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
Matthew 16:27-28
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.
Matthew 24:34
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
Matthew 10:23
When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Adrian Morris
Cut off family members who try to stop you:
Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple."
Matt. 10:35-37
“For I have come to turn a man against his father a daughter against her mother a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law---a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”
Matthew 19:29
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
Ethan James
Do not apply critical thought to doctrine:
Proverbs 3:5
“Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding”
2 Corinthians 5:7
“For we live by faith, not by sight.”
Proverbs 14:12
“There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death.”
Proverbs 28:26
“Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe.”
Dominic Kelly
When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. (Leviticus 19:9-10)
Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
Tyler Ross
Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, also called Complete Land of Israel or Entire Land of Israel (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than “Greater Israel”, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew.
"No one in Israel should ever be poor. The Lord your God is giving you this land, and he has promised to make you very successful, if you obey his laws and teachings that I’m giving you today."
"You will lend money to many nations, but you won’t have to borrow. You will rule many nations, but they won’t rule you."
The bible is quite pro jew. (((Yahweh))) promises the jews GREATER ISRAEL FFS
Ian Clark
Turn the other cheek is mistranslated/misinterpreted meme: This is not true whatsoever. There are MANY (too many to list) verses in the Bible that are anti-European and anti-Aryan.
>When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
>Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)
Landon Collins
Christianity was made by brown people, for brown people. The only people who believe that Jesus was in anyway European are fringe religious nuts, all historians know that there were no Europeans any where near where Jesus was supposedly born or when the bible was written (by brown people)
You can't call yourself a white nationalist if you want to throw away your pagan heritage in favour of a middle eastern religion made by brown people
Also there is no proof Jesus even existed, so why gives those Christian scum the benefit of the doubt?
There's a reason why Jews consider Pagan symbols to be hate symbols, and all white nationalist groups glorify pagan symbols.
In the Jew dominated media, such as in movies, Christians are always portrayed as the ideal, normal, good, American goys.
I know Christcucks are too stupid to read between the lines that Hitler was obviously a Pagan, but to deny that he was heavily fascinated with Paganism and Pagan symbols and had a great respect for it, would be absurd
If you really want to rebel against the kikes, and make a true stand for Europe, then worship the Gods of your ancestors
Also:
Reminder that REAL Christians do not believe in evolution, dinosaurs or that the earth is older than 6 thousand years old. Also, 2 of each of every species of animal that exists today was somehow put on a boat and repopulated the Earth with all the animals we see today. If you don't believe this you aren't a real Christian and you need to stop calling yourself one. Thanks
>b-b-b-b-but muh cherry picking
Yeah, you're a fucking joke
Camden Phillips
What are "traditional Christian" family values?
Like goat fucker Abraham trying to kill his own son? Or Jesus encouraging European women to become degenerate nuns and stop making white babies?
Christianity is a Jewish sect which is now the forerunner of multiculturalism and race mixing.
Pro-White Pagan family values
Multi racial Christian v̶a̶l̶u̶e̶s̶ faggy morals
PICK ONE.
What exactly are "Traditional Christian family values?" Varg explains:
Angel Flores
have you talked to a priest about any of your issues?
Elijah Reed
I've chatted with some Rabbis. Didn't have a good time. Perhaps I should reach out to a priest. Feels a bit uncomfortable, as I was raised protestant..
Carson Gonzalez
Jesus created this universe. Or at least this planet. At first he was a child. He liked explosions. Then he started paying more attention to the particles created by the explosions. And he started creating life on those particles. At first he created life for entertainment. Funny looking creatures that did stupid shit. Then he wiped those creatures out and made viscious creatures and watched them fight. Then he wiped those out and made humans. But they werent good humans. They were corrupted because he still hadnt created them with a real purpose. They were no different from the dinosaurs. They were a mixture of the funny creatures. And the explosions. And the viscious dinosaurs. And his father saw what he had made. And his father put him with the creation. And the creation killed him. And he experienced the evil he had created. So he wiped them out. And created us. Who still do all the silly shit. Who still cause explosions. Who are still just as viscous as the donosaurs. But we are aware of him because of the father. And we try to do right by him now. And its saved us from dying like everything else. But we are still not perfect. Jesus still has some growing to do. We are his entertainment. His companionship. His beloved creation. His lifes work. He creates for the father. And we live for the creator. We shame him by reverting to the old ways. We get him in trouble with his father when we do bad. Because we are a reflection of him.
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Blake Cook
Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization
Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven
When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...
... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical
Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!
Jayden Evans
Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"
Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"
But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.
Ryder Hughes
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!
That is not going to fly.
Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".
John Martin
Christianity can't cure a disease it caused
Pagan Romans were fundamentally free of the chains of jewish power, so much that they almost exterminated them all in their own homeland after the rebellion of Bar Kocheba
It would be Christian Europe that would fall under permanent jewish influence, with the jewish-controlled churches banning europeans from financing and loaning, giving them as a monopoly to jews
By the modern era, Christians were so throughly judaized, that they started to actively wish for the restoration of Israel so that the end of the world would finally come around and their civilization would die!
And why would it be otherwise?
A religion which such obsession with death, with promise is the end of the world, is fundamentally a time-bomb in the basement of a civilization
Do you really believe that the early christians that embraced their martyrhood to the lions said to themselves "I am dying to this lion so that the white race can survive, fuck jews!" or any such anachronistic reinterpretation that you have decided to give to their death cult?