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sage
>we made mor stuf so comernismg werk

Well of course the USSR had higher production levels, not even Capitalism can compete with slave labor lmao.

What does the graph show? Percentage increase?

man starving slaves works every time.

Is that line graph supposed to look like a large nosed man rubbing his hands together?

>You don't have to include poor and starving people in your statistics if they're dead!

What do ancaps think of North Korea? They are the only country where weed is considered a plant like any other instead of a drug.

youtube.com/watch?v=933jsB5ChlA

Watch the whole video. Do they seem like slaves to you?

That shows a % increase. So lets say the US made 1,000,000 things and dropped to 50% of their previous production, as the graph shows. That would be 500,000 things.

If Russia produced 100 things and then increased the production by 240% of their previous production, as is shown here, that would mean they produced 240 things.

We have no basis for comparison based on the info given. This looks like a graph designed to fool morons. If you think this help prove your case, OP, I'm guessing you're one of those morons.

why would you want to be saved from fascism?

Really? nobody's going to point out that this is a graph of the great depression? which would be a blip if they expanded the graph?

Just watched the video and Jesus Christ, even I'm ignorant to just how bad the USSR was! They were right poor weren't they, I thought my country was bad!

shill responding to keep his own thread alive immediately. You are saged, and I've reported you to the local authorities. What are you sliding, though? Nothing is happening except...

Fascism is elites having total power over society. Why would you want that?

Im the only one seeing the merchant meme here?

Sounds like the words of man who knew his options throughout his whole life were to sing Stalin praise, or die in gulag.

why wouldn't I
the elites are better than disgusting poor slime of society

-rk. How did it fare in 1990?

all fucking commies must fucking hang

Both can be right.

The efficiency of the state run economy most likely did save Russia in WW2 but was total shit for peacetime/consumer goods and a growing economy.

The discussion then becomes what's more important, keeping the high command from being purged or the extra industrial power thanks to stalins brutal efficiency.

>Uruguay
>Spain
>Canada

Is the graph a merchant?

Elites are already running society, and I'm not impressed. Most people aren't impressed either. Regular working class white people will run society much better than Jewish Illuminati banksters

USSR stopped being socialist in the late '50s.

"Many Soviet managers would fit into any corporate hierarchy in the United States and do exceptionally well".

(M.I. Goldman: "More Heat in the Soviet Hothouse", in: "Harvard Business Review", Volume 49, No. 4; July/August 1971; p. 15).


"The Russians have again turned to the non-Communist world; they are creating a network of business schools".

(M.I. Goldman: ibid.; p. 15).

oneparty.co.uk/html/book/ussrchap7.html

Not helping your argument.

Is that picture a merchant?

Yes it is.

Hitler: let's crush the untermenschen
Himmler: we can probably get it done in a few months
Goering: ha they don't stand a cha-

Where's is food production?

Do you realize that production is just a part of the problem? What about the resource allocation problem?

Are you conscious you can make the same statement for nazism?
Hear those persons who lived under Hitler and how it was their saviour and historian are lying.

Stalin was revered as the father of the people, yet, it didn't stop him from commiting atrocity on his own people. Even soviet agreed on that.
Industrializing and winning ww2 don't mean he was the good guy all along. Terrible people did this too.

Hmm wonder what happened after 1934. It's almost like someone skewed the data to support a certain narrative.
>also industrial production does not equal prosperity

>god, our economy doesn't work by itself we need to trade with other people. Let's teach some people how to do so.
Equal
>we definitely lost the socialist way which include working with vapitalist economy as a transition
In communist mind. That's how they cope with the fact that USSR tried but didn't manage to implement communism (foreign pressure were a thing but it's to be expected)
This is the same people that are insisting that china didn't lost its socialist way.

thats communism you are talking about, facism is backed by the people and voted for by the people

Class is a social construct.

>What do ancaps think of North Korea? They are the only country where weed is considered a plant like any other instead of a drug.


Marijuana id the opium of the masses. You need a lot to keep the slaves tamed

Social constructs are a social construct

There’s no such thing as class, brainlet.

Elites will always rule. Hearchies will always naturally occur. People arent inherantly equal, some are born to work others are born to lead.

There are a handful of financial monopoly capitalists who control the fates of entire countries. Are you claiming they don't exist?

If class exists you should surely be able to define it besides something so obscure as a handful of financial monopoly capitalists. Try better.

Do you think these people are "born to lead"?

People who own the means of production (factories, mines, oil rigs, most importantly - financial institutions such as banks, hedge funds, etc) are different from people who have to sell their labor to survive. Do you disagree?

I don’t know what their function is but humans independently developed their own monetary system based on mathematics and computer science. If you dislike international banking, don’t use it.

Qualitatively they’re no different besides a belief in that they’re different. That’s why it’s a social construct.

Yes, but im a facist. I tgink the government needs a higher role in companies.

Im an advocate of stakeholder capitalism not stockholder. If you are a communist that believes in culture and communities you are fine in my book. But if you want to abolish homogenuity then i want you hung.

No different from your belief that an orange is different from an apple.

>People who believe in false commie dichotomy aren't people do you agree?

A white man and a black man are different, yes. A white man that runs a business and his white worker are not different.

Why workers don't associate and buy means of production? If property management is so easy why communism isn't a success? Why aren't you a billionaire? Why buy and sell is bad if a billionaire does it but not if a worker?

amen brother

Yeah but due to failure to distribute those goods it collapsed under its own weight. Are you retarded?

People had good lives in Nazi Germany too. Whats your point?

Even if it was well distributed people cannot eat truck engines and sheet steel.

Hitler disagrees. From his 1945 Testament (source is extremely pro-Nazi btw).

archive.org/stream/TheTestamentOfAdolfHitler/TOAH_djvu.txt

>Our obvious course should have been to liberate the working classes and to help the workers of France to implement their own revolution. We should have brushed aside, rudely and without pity, the fossilized bourgeoisie, as devoid of soul as it is denuded of patriotism. Just look at the sort of friends our geniuses of the Wilhelmstrasse have found for us in France- petty, calculating little profiteers, who hastened to make love to us as soon as they thought that we were occupying their country in order to safeguard their bank balances — but who were quite resolved to betray us at the first possible opportunity, provided always that no danger to themselves was involved!

Goebbels, also in 1945, complained about how the rotten aristocratic Junker class contributed to Germany's defeat. I can't find the quote ATM, I'll try to find it soon.

In 1945 Hitler was batshit crazy.

You don't sound like a very good Nazi, insulting your Fuhrer like that.

Yes facist agree with communists on a lot of economical stuff. But they belief in the natural order of heiarchies.

Your commie state cant be achieved. People will naturally rise above others. Unless you have someone preventing that. In that case its not really communism.

Owners of means of production sell their labor when they let you to work in facilities they have to purchase by themselves. Or do you want them letting you work for free in their labour earned machines. Wouldn't that be slavery? Since the capitalist has to labour for organize production for free and the "(((worker)))" steps in and takes it?

We’re not herd followers like you. We use reason to arrive at conclusions, not appeals to authority.

Which is why it was so successful that even today it....oh?...collapsed after making left footed shoes and other shit people didn't want....GTFO commie.

>what is slave labor
Stalin literally used his on women and children as cannon fodder you have to be autistic to love him

Man I'm a fascist too and Hitler was a very poor military strategist

That graph looks like a jew.

(((sure he was)))

After reading this thread I've decided that communists aren't technically people, if you're poor lad, it's because you deserve to be. In fact one could say, you're lucky to be alive tbqh.

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lol, he's a georgian.
georgia was a top shithole tier country and stalin pumped resources like crazy back to his native georgia. shithole tier countries of countries of course benefitted from USSR. no question about it.


there was no unemployment, but you had to wipe your arse with a newspaper. if that sounds fine with you, you don't need a job now either!

This. Hierarchies are naturally forming biological products. Denying basic biological reality creates a dysfunctional world. That’s why social class hierarchies, which are fundamentally social constructs, will always fail.

>smoke weed
>munchies set in
>씨발
>starve

You fags do know there was that guy on Reddit who did an ama and said it was all shit, at which point delusional fags like you said "aktchually". You're desperate to believe in this utopia because you have nothing to offer

-rk

>Equally distributed poverty

You've literally just described socialism. Name a socialist country where those at the top of the party don't live lives of luxury compared to the rest of the population

Also what have the crusades got to do with anything? And you know you didn't actually debunk anything in the top image right? How retarded are you? Are you denying that the crusades weren't a response to centuries of violent Islamic expansion? Or are you just another leftwing retard with no principles who believes in the oppressor/oppressed narrative, with Muslims being the oppressed

Many people who live in luxury suffered immensely to achieve that.

What does that graph show? Kill count?

Yes. What monopolists are there and how are they preventing competitors, other than by lobbying leftwing politicians

Name ONE real world instance much communism has worked in the real world(not on paper).

Pro tip: you can't, won't, and never will.sorry about your luck.

In capitalist countries sure, but that's only because success is tied to hard work, as you have to fend for yourself rather than relying on others

Russia was an economic powerhouse outcompeting the west before the western backed Bolsheviks toppled the Czar allowing the plunder of resources and slave labor from Russia by the west up until the 50's, identical to what China did to Cambodia through Pol Pot. These were puppet regimes led by wealthy jews (Engels, Trotzky, Marx) that killed millions of "their own people." If you think g.d.p has anything to do with people starving or quality of life, you're a retard.

>pro north korean president elected in south korea
>40% of south koreans would fight for the north in case of north-south war
>only 15% would back the japanese and american imperialists

Came here to post this

That city is a proof of resource concentration and inequality

>Man I'm a fascist too and Hitler was a very poor military strategist
I'm sure you would have done a lot better.

Yes. I'm a good at strategy since I was a kid

Lmfao. Wtf does your 'statistic'(which I find hard to believe. Doubt you can provide sauce) prove? NOTHING. Communism has NEVER, and will NEVER work. Simple fact. It only works in extremely liberal farries heads. Sorry to point out the fact it will only actually ever work/exist in your head, and that your a faggot ferry.

There are arguments for communism being effective at times and even lasting.
Hell, communism outlasted some capitalist countries.
That's not the argument against it.
What we do argue is that it is absolutely evil and kills millions of people, every fucking time.

Kek

>Byzantium is begging for help

And that why the crusades happened in the first place to free Asia Minor from the Turks, a holy roman emperor died fighting in Asia Minor after the siege of iconium

>thirty year war

Was more of a geopolitical conflict rather than a religious one. German princes and France(catholic country) fighting against Austria and Spain to decentralize the Holy Roman Empire and weaken Spain's political power.

>rather than retake Iberia

Which is what Charlemagne actually did but only succeeded with taking Barcelona because of basques attacking the French army before they could take Zaragoza

>when it was really mongols.

The Abbasid collapse happened way before the mongols

That's not class-hierarchy, that's Jews and "Gentiles" :^)

>No Unemployment

Even if you dont want to

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Now post food production

and (((socialism))) has killed whites, just like (((Christianity))) killed European pagans. Marxism denies races, borders, traditions/culture and the concept of nations.

This

now show me the chart for wages.

In five years, the USSR made 140 more than everyone else. Of course, they still needed lend-lease during WWII.