Why does Sup Forums espouse the most depressing and twisted ideology imaginable?
You guys realise that EVERY time its been tried it results in death and destruction? Or are you just being ironic edgelords?
The 20th century was a shitshow because of communism and fascism. Liberal democratic capitalism has proved itself superior and IS here to stay.
That wasn't real Fascism, real Fascism hasn't been tried yet.
>nazism represents all fascism
>implying that this post won't make people more nationalistic
It's like they don't even realize their cognitive dissonance.
>"You want to keep your country white and safe? You're literally a nazi and we'll kill your wives and daughters again"
This is why people laugh at liberal white women who don't understand the world.
The enlightment is what destroyed our society. The Fascists and Communists tried to ascend humanity after the enlightment destroyed the spirituality in the west. Communists tried to do it with egalitarianism and fascists with hierarchy. Fascists were closer to the truth and that's why I will support a fascist movement before liberalism or communism. Spirituality and traditionalism are the only real answers however.
>Show people evidence of the war crimes that were hidden from them their entire lives
>This will definitely demoralize them
Yeah, Germany won the olympics.
>dead jews are bad
>nazism
You may as well say commism. Also
>I only like the fascism that serves corporate interests and doesn't serve the people
Lmao cuck
This.
Dear God, I'm starting to be sure people ( Anglos) will never learn that Fascism and Nazism are different ideologies.
Anyone got a plan to bully this skank?
Nothing even happened
fpbp
>>I only like the fascism that serves corporate interests and doesn't serve the people
I never said that?
>h-heh you better not become nationalist again else we kill even more innocent people
Great strategy there friendo, tell me how that works out for ya.
Actually your post pertains to the modern left.
You didn't need to
>that jew nose on the corpse
>espouse
jump off a bridge or something
honestly hitler would be the first to admit that mistakes were made, next time we'll do it right
>Communists tried to do it with egalitarianism and fascists with hierarchy.
Wrong. Both were the direct result of a spread of the belief in Evolution. Marx and Hitler believed in "evolving" mankind, and quoted Darwin.
those are from commuist gulags tho
Maybe, it's time for death and destruction? You obviously don't count the rapes and murders and grooming and explosions as death and destruction. Only when "non-brown" people do it.?
Nazism was a variant of Fascism. Mussolini started copying Hitler's tactics in the 30s showing they are similar.
this
who the fuck is we?
what do you think he'd do different brit bro?
Nothing you said contradicts what I say. If God dies with the enlightment, then there will be no moral code as to which we should adhere to. Forced evolution out of suffering was the most honorable thing we could have done given the circumstance. Liberalists just want to keep suffering without any solutions. Liberalism is worst the communism and fascism. God is the only true answer however.
As an individualist I distinguish between the actions of the odd rapist or terrorist from that of a nation state.
Liberal democratic capitalism Is gay!, show them why Sup Forums!
>God is the only true answer however.
God may be the answer - but religion is not. Religion has been bending over for science for decades. Evolution is just another religion.
>falangism integralism, national syndicalism, eco-fascism, italian fascism, rexism, ustashe, iron guard, sinarqists..
Don't bother. OP is underage.
Liberal capitalism is evil.
This is a difficult perspective to have. How should we act if we don't have a religion or political system to point to? I'm genuinely curious.
So when the muzzie cult leaders publicly proclaim that this is a planned invasion you accept that? When they state their goal is to outbreed non-muzzies and steal their daughters you see that as an attack right?
But every fascist ideologue from the 1940s was also anti semitic and racist.
and the nationalist (ethno state) cant of the modern fascists is equally genocidal in tone and final destination
given opportunity and circumstance all versions of fascism are directed towards genocide.
>Evolution is just another religion.
no it isn't.
Stand up for your own personal integrity. Show something that religion and politics don't have - a moral backbone.
>How should we act if we don't have a religion or political system to point to?
morally.
Morality does not require divine command or the threat of afterlife punishment.
if you do not know what is immoral unless your pastor tells you, then you are simply not a very good person or rational one.
>mussolini was a racist and anti-semite
boy the muslims really are posting here
Stop showing pics of the Allied fire-bombing of Dresden and trying to claim they're dead Jews.
At least she's still smiling.
Its almost like you have no idea what Fascism is and you're just a gay troll or something.
Mosley would be so pained to see what you've become.
You have to love the Liberal double think and blatant hatred towards whites.
>Don't oppress and make fun of Muslisms or you'll radicalize them
>FUCK YOU Y-PIPO, YOU HAVE NO CULTURE, YOU DESERVE TO BE REPLACED REEEE
Also interesting to note that Sup Forums hates Islam yet as a religion Islam is very Fascismesque.
>here to stay
until the average IQ of society plummets below the level needed to maintain it and it becomes a corrupt farce ran by selfish, materialistic coons incapable of abstract thought and basic planning skills
we're doomed without something to weed out the weak so long as we seek to create a life where the weak can flourish
What if I'm not a good person? What if I was born a monster? What if I was born with a need for over indulgance and immoral instincts? What then?
>ideology
It was a charasmatic movement, moron.
No it was an ideology. Charisma was used to destroy democracy, but the fascism had and has specific goals.
You terror bombed our cities and burned millions of defenseless women and children alive? Wow, nice job you piece of human garbage.
>You guys realise that EVERY time its been tried it results in death and destruction?
Jews and communists are people.
Arent*
>obviously......
It always makes it worse in the for the nations that try it out. Civic nats will btfo white ethno nats every time. Pic related
>What if I'm not a good person?
If you can't learn to trust yourself - who you gonna trust?
Tribalism has worked far longer
should we return to that instead of Democracy ?
One could argue that fascism has been the norm throughout history and we don't see thousands of holocausts do we? We barely see one.
I'd also gladly kill x amount of people to secure my own
Keep it in his country.
Women in politics was a mistake. They can't handle serious decisions, they see the world through the lenses of pink glasses.
Well, I think that National Socialism is some type of Tribalism.
Why should anyone listen to one of the biggest collection of traitors in the history of the world that were one of the main reasons it failed in the first place because of you treason.
Not to mention you cunts are done anyway a decade or two from now and muslims will start going from neigberhood to neigberhood slaughtering the people that let them in just like it happened in Lebanon not too long ago.
Have fun experiencing your own treason by the people you helped you goddamn worthless nation wrecking pathetic cowards.
The one that tells me that I wasn't born perfect, but could be redeemed in the afterlife if I accept to live by certain tenants.
underrated
>you
I had no part in it. Though by that logic you started it with the blitz
>The one that tells me that I wasn't born perfect, but could be redeemed in the afterlife if I accept to live by certain tenants.
Why did he make you imperfect? That would make him imperfect.
All countries and Empires historically have been fascist.
Give me a quick rundown on fascism.
>post war germany represent Fascism
how stupid can you get muhammad, National Socialism rebuilt Germany from a debt-ridden, highly unemployed, hugely inflated currencied, modern Greece level shithole into one of the most industrialized nations on the Planet in the 1930s
Because the Nazis did atrocities during the war does not discredit them for their highly successful economy
The user is making the case for God as the ultimate authority and source of objective morality.
Secular humanism is a false paradigm as it never emerged in a vacuum, the entire developed world has been touched by Christianity for better or worse. To say that we don't need religion is little more than an untested theory.
Its abundantly clear that we as humans have spiritual needs, and that left to our own devices we don't fulfill them. More than spirituality alone we need to have a baseline for righteousness and moral standards which make undesirable behaviors a social taboo.
There is no force but God which achieves this. As far as our group behavior is concerned there no God without a structured religion. No tribal people ever worshiped a God totally singularly and detached from the rest of their society. Belief and worship are shared experience.
>See what we did last time you stood up.
^^^ truth, when the allies fought the axis, they were fighting for the future European caliphate,
they were fighting for the jewworld order that we see today.
Not all Anglos Spagettibro. Some of us have half a fucking clue whats going on.
No, they were fighting for ZOG
and ZOG won
The problem with democratic systems is that you can't rely on the majority to have the knowledge, intelligence, or mindset to make logical decisions. The odds are still bad with any form of autocracy, just not as terrible as the former, you just have no contingency if your leadership is either incompetent, malevolent, or both.
I value the experience of individuals, however that doesn't mean to imply I trust the collective judgement of millions of them. But I also don't think highly of societies that glorify war/conquest, all destruction is a net loss, nothing is gained in the end.
It was directed at the twitter whore and her gloating over the mass murder of civillians.
Economically, regardless of how its implemented, the premise is that corporations and industry are run for the good of the people and the state.
There is private property, private ownership, everyone has the right to earn as much profit as they desire, but companies can't exploit the people or go against a general welfare.
When it comes to the philosophy and worldview things go much deeper and touch on the esoteric. Fascism asks what the nature of man is and holds a philosophical truth as the highest standard.
If you don't glorify war/conquest it leads inevitably to decay, stagnation and degeneracy.
Where do you think you are OP? This isnt reddit.
Sup Forums works like this:
>be social outcast/cant score/low achievements
>be mad at life
>"fuck this gay earth!"
>go on Sup Forums and help in the destruction of mankind
For the same reason that a triangle we draw will never be perfect, but when we think of what a triangle is, it is. You begin to understand that nothing in this life will ever be perfect, but in another world it will. I choose to believe that I will go there after I die.
fpbp
That was real fascism, but the enemy won.
Yes, you were just an innocent bystander, a victim of circumstance.
>objective morality
You are speaking of belief, I am speaking of fact that can be known, and don't require belief. The Truth is: there is no objective morality that everyone can agree on, because humans can only view reality from a subjective viewpoint. As long as we have contending ideologies of "objective" good, we will have war.
>God is dead
>there is only suffering
>we need to fix our suffering
>let's forcefully evolve humans
>we will do this efficiently by taking control of every aspect of society
>create wars and breed the strongest
>do this until a human is born that will no longer suffer and humanity can live in peace
uh huh
>Liberal democratic capitalism has proved itself superior and IS here to stay.
kek. "liberal democratic capitalism" led to fascism you stupid retard. It is an unsustainable ideology that has been imposed with violence and warfare the world over--and in the end it leads ineluctably to either socialism or fascism, of one sort or another. Pick a side and stop being such a cowardly faggot for once in your pathetic Bong-life.
Agreed. If only my American "conservatives" could understand this and stop larping as "traditionalists" when their views are almost all liberal.
Wrong. Nazism was socialism and "people power" with some traditionalism stamped on it (and moralistic moaning about degeneracy). Nazism placed the Volk as its central point; Fascism the central formative influence of the State; this is why Nazism ended up being far more demonic than Italian Fascism: it empowered the subterranean impulses of the masses.
You glow in the dark proxyfag
When you accept that God exists, believe you have the word of God, then that is the unquestionable objective standard for your society.
It doesn't matter if people individually agree on everything, it doesn't matter of other foreign peoples have differing values. This is the baseline standard that your society is based on.
Your statements don't address the premise. If you want to go down this rabbit hole then everything is subjective because nothing in our perception can be validated with perfect empiricism.
>laughs off the concept of divine commands, of transcendce in general
>makes religious appeal for "muh morality" aprioristically, without any basis for this aside from his own personal tastes and sentiments
This is retarded. Morality is nothing if it is not anchored in an appeal to something higher than mere life and biology.
Beat me to it
>perfect empiricism
Objectivity is the rabbit hole. Anyone can postulate their own subjective brand of "objectivity".
No shit retard. That's because it is a religion and culture that is direct competition with our own.
Islam does however provide the most robust opposition in the world to the cult of Americanist liberalism and democracy, so they're obviously doing something right. But naturally, i'd rather we resist without having first to be conquered by an alien ideology. Fgts like you just make the eventual takeover of Islam inevitable, Christ, you even begin to make it desirable with all your "I hate Islam because it mean to fags and wimmin" utter faggotry.
ok it seems that all the shills today are British so just ignore them
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>anchored in an appeal to something higher than mere life and biology.
Darwin randomly selected "survival" as the only value.
>closing borders
>enforce laws
>secure infrastructure
>>depressing and twisted
>The problem with democratic systems is that you can't rely on the majority to have the knowledge, intelligence, or mindset to make logical decisions. The odds are still bad with any form of autocracy, just not as terrible as the former, you just have no contingency if your leadership is either incompetent, malevolent, or both.
The fact is democracy doesn't acknowledge the reality of the mass of human beings: they are for the most part interchangeable cogs who go with the general flow of their milieu; they lack form of their own, and are thus moulded easily by others; the reality is that if the State does not mould the masses in a particular direction, then the corporate world will do so, resulting in what we have today, where people have actually been convinced that buying the same things over and over is proof of prosperity and riches (while things like property increase in value exponentially, and are sold off to foreigners).
Democracy is cancer to a people. It makes them ripe for being taken over by external forces that care not a single whit for the people or the national interest in general.
Which basically could do an 180 degree term simply because of a drastic change in environmental circumstances. Doesn't sound much like morality to me, but these "I don't need God (numen or deus) to be moral" people are basically drenched in their own sanctimonious egotism and living in complete delusion as a result.
how exactly was your nigger spazio vitale any different?
>muh 1 gorillion
ayyy lmao
>Doesn't sound much like morality to me
Evolution created the moral vacuum that Hitler and Marx marched into.
>Liberal democratic capitalism has proved itself superior and IS here to stay.
Liberal democratic capitalism has proven itself to be the most disastrous invention of the European mind, inflicted upon itself. Never before in the history of mankind, has any group of people willingly ceded their homelands to hordes of foreigners, to the point where people of european heritage will become minorities in their own ancestral homelands within the next 150 years, if not sooner. This development is unsustainable and it WILL kill liberal democratic capitalism, either due to Europeans waking up and discarding this suicidal set of ideas, or due to our lands being overwhelmed by foreigners who care nothing about liberalism, democracy or capitalism.
Either way, your ideals are doomed. The only way to save European peoples is trough some form of ethnonational fascism.
The Egyptians used to allow Nubians to conquer them whenever there was instability in the kingdom.
Everybody knows that italian fascism was not racist or anti-semetic. He even had jews in the upper echelons of the fascist government. Giovanni Gentiles ideology on fascism was not a racialist one.
lol anglo scum stay out of the way this time and noone will get hurt