1. Anyone who reveals details of the existence of the floor on the outside loses both their data and memory of the place
2. once you become a ranker you can't go back in or update your data
3. after you complete it you can't update data and take any items or goods from the Virtual floor
So you can go in there to become stronger but you can't farm items there. Also, when the fuck did Rak get there? When did he even split from the group?
Based Rak cleared the hell accidently train well before Bam and anyone else in their crew.
Joseph Baker
So do we know how Gustang feels about Zahard? Presumably he fucking hates him if he's doing all this floor of death shit, so he could have been talking about Zahard rather than V when he said "your father is a faggot".
Parker Fisher
>inb4 Rak is actually dead and what remains in the hidden virtual floor is just his data everyone will bet that young zahard will look like a mirror image of wangnan
Michael Moore
>Also, when the fuck did Rak get there? When did he even split from the group? At the Name Hunt Station, Karaka attacked Yuri while Bam and friends were returning to the Hell Train. Rak became separated from them during that battle.
Jeremiah Murphy
he said he was unfriendly towards everyone so I'd say they only tolerate each other.
He said that he acted unfriendly towards everyone while on their journey.
Also, did they just come from outside the tower, or even another tower and everything was pre-built? He said "climb the tower and change THIS tower". Maybe it's just a translation error but it means a lot.
Nicholas Young
that's kinda bullshit imo.
Of all the places to land he landed right into the enterance of the train
Aaron Gomez
So I use to follow this, and stopped like 2 years ago. Started binging it since a few days ago, and just caught up to where I was. Always fun seeing references to things that pop up later. Like Yuri mentioning Urek's tree-trunk legs, all the way back in chapter 2.
Carter King
So is there a difference between shinsu and magic in this world? Or is magic just really complicated shinsu?
Juan Reyes
Rak seemed very dead after Yuri cast an attack spell that spread across the whole horizon, along with two other useless characters. Then you see the other two are alive thanks to other useless characters saving them for no reason, and they specifically mention they can't find Rak, making him even more dead. It doesn't help that ToG regularly kills or forgets loads of characters entirely, only for them to suddenly return 20 chapters later like they weren't gone at all.
Nathan Roberts
Not anime or manga, fuck off.
Alexander Reyes
Ahem.
Sebastian Diaz
>2012 You think your old rules apply here?
Camden Gutierrez
Ahem.
Mason Johnson
>Gook shit
Jack Lopez
Rak is a boring character, why do everyone like him so much? Never cared about him, and honestly nothing changed to me when he was absent. What's even his goal? Being stronk?
Carter Price
Not anime or manga. Go back to Sup Forums, /trash/, or beg for another board on /qa/. Honestly, you'd probably succeed; these new shitty boards added since Hiro grabbed the wheel were certainly created on shakier ground.
>So you can go in there to become stronger but you can't farm items there.
I thought you can, except that you can't farm items after you completed the hell train. So basically its a one time bonus floor/round
Samuel Nelson
Rak's circumstances are bull shit, but anyone who thought he even had a chance of being dead is retarded.
Bentley Russell
>so he could have been talking about Zahard rather than V when he said "your father is a faggot".
This is my pet theory right now. Basically, I reckon Jahard went all Griffin on Arlene, and Bam is the result. Wangnan being the Prince is so obvious I feel it can't possibly be the twist. Bam being the Prince is more like it.
Robert Roberts
Heh, I didn't think about it like that, but you're right, it really is like a bonus prize level in a game.
John Rogers
>Wangnan being the Prince is so obvious I feel it can't possibly be the twist. Wait, it is supposed to be a twist? I swear him being Zahard's son was already revealed long ago? Am I imagining things?
Tyler Hughes
It's never been confirmed, as I recall, but at this point I think every single reader of the series thinks Wangnan is his son.
Unless SIU has totally bungled the whole Prince arc, which seems set up to be a big reveal, I think there has to actually be another surprise lurking somewhere. And it can't be Karaka because it's also totally obvious that he's also Jahard's son.
Colton Cruz
What does FUG stand for?
Luis Myers
I don't think we know. I've seen people lately speculating that the G stands for "Grace".
Nathaniel Gutierrez
It's all but straight out said. He's definitely considered a prince, his ring with Zahard's symbol, his immortality.
Connor Taylor
I always though it was Fuck U God, but it might have been too subtle a message
Gabriel Russell
>his immortality.
That's kind of interesting, actually, because the immortality of the 10 family heads is clearly not passed down to their descendants. So Jahad, I guess, has some kind of super immortality.
Christian Gomez
I wonder how he ended up with that ring. I suppose it was his since his childhood, but have he ever questioned its origins?
Eli Gonzalez
...
Eli White
STOP RANKERCREEP LET THE GOD DAMN REGULARS SHINE
Aaron Cooper
He seems to be aware of its significance, and seemed to know what Rachel meant when she called him a Prince. Also, Karaka's whole issue with Bam is that he believes one day Bam will come after him, which makes sense if he knows that A) he's Jahad's son, and B) Bam is prophesied to be the killer of Jahad. So I'm thinking they are both aware of their origins.
Ian Evans
It's not like all the heads have the same immortality. Hell, one of them literally shortened the lives of all his descendants just for immortality. And Jahad's power can be passed down through blood as proven with Ank.
He's plenty aware.
Hunter Butler
How are Ten Families supposed to rule over all tower when they can't even enter Regular territories?
Hunter Diaz
>one of them literally shortened the lives of all his descendants just for immortality.
It seems logical to think this is the family that adopted Androssi, right? Since it was stated it was a great family with no rankers except the head.
Isaiah Baker
how mad would you be if baam turned to be jahad all along
Brody Anderson
Their authority seems to be purely theoretical in much of the tower.
Kayden Myers
They can't keep breaking the rules like that though. And said rules are also enforced by the guardians. Who aren't pushovers by any means. Usually, when a ranker is in a regular area, they are examiners or their illegally with the guardian not giving a fuck.
Chase Ortiz
>When did he even split from the group? He went MIA in the clash between Karaka and Yuri, couldnt escape the huge power clash and was thought dead. Of course for plot reasons he is still around, he's a popular character. I love the turtle but he jobbed hard last time, hope he got a buff on his journey.
Gabriel Diaz
According to the wiki, the G=Grace is the only thing SIU has confirmed on his blog.
Sebastian Bell
Are the guardians the true final bosses?
Wyatt Gomez
Oh, it's confirmed? I didn't know that.
Chase Smith
>gookshit
Aaron Smith
To become a ranker and to lose access to all those cool regular areas. What a shitty and unfair rule.
Jackson Wright
>he jobbed hard last time, It wasn't even his fault that time. dumbass swordsman pretty much gave an Aria an ignition weapon. I mean, he might have won that fight otherwise.
Liam Fisher
>So Jahad, I guess, has some kind of super immortality. Thats a given but seems Wangnan is a special case. Jahad has thousand of bastards everywhere and as far as I know they are not immortal, Wangnan has given immortality, the guy is really important for whatever reason. >true final boss >guardians >not Baam's mom I bet the bitch keikaku'd every single thing.
Jonathan Reed
Why is Xiaxia such a qt?
Xavier Long
Well, for whatever reason the tower wants to be climbed by worthy candidates, and having rankers fuck with their shit isn't conducive to that.
I don't think the guardians are all that important. Phantaminum and Enryuu are the only people who could feasibly hurt one and one is an Axis and one is an agent of God. It wouldn't make much sense for the rest of the cast to be able to fight them. Aside from Headon and the two inside Baam I don't see the guardians having much of a role aside from giving out the occasional test or tidbit of plot information. They're probably just an inherent part of the tower - even floor 43's guardian started "growing back" before it got crammed into Joe.
Jack Jackson
They have lots of henchmen who will fuck your shit up for the sake of currying favor I guess?
Joseph Evans
>true final boss it would be the axis wouldn't it? or maybe even something outside the tower depending on how far SIU wants to take this
Mason Russell
So what are the chances at an anime? Noblesse got an OVA, and it seems a few other Webtoons have some animated ads (though they seem to be ads for the webtoons themselves)
Did the Noblesse OVA flop too hard for them to consider adapting any other works?
Lincoln Hernandez
I like ToG very much but i feel that in the floor of death the story is getting convoluted.
What i mean by that is this: too many things happening at the same time, every event intertwine with another and not enough screen time is given to develop in an undertandable manner what is really happening. Also too many sub plots and characters stay idle for dozens of chapters till they have some form of conclusion.
I hope that SIU is trully a genius and dont leave some major plot holes with the narrative getting so complicated.
Nathan Lee
So this chapter confirms that blonde guy is the direct son of Zahard?
Landon Clark
So, is he ever going to reference the statues that looked like Rak first floor? So far it's the only mystery of that character
Noah Rogers
>Small Rak >gets wrecked by white fuckboy >suddenly he unleashed his big form and punches him in the face >hype >he loses offpanel The way he jobbed against him was the worst.
Elijah Kelly
So is Rak going to be like the weird eyes guy? Like he already was on the virtual floor but he lose his memories?
Anthony Jones
>gookshit MODS
Ian Flores
Why the fuck does he confirm these types of things on his blog? And why doesn't the Wiki link to the blog?
Isaiah Morris
Baam is going to meet the 13 warriors so we'll know for sure who the real jerk was, but after this chapter i really think that V is still alive and is the head of the FUG and that's why Gustang hates him.
Also aside from the hair of their parents i know we don't have many clues but V and Viole looks too similar to not be releted and i think the big reveal is going to be Rechel being the daughter of Zahard and Rechel (someone is going to find the horns behind her head)
Bentley Evans
I hate that so much, he said a lot of stuff about the 10 families on his blog too
Anthony Mitchell
>13 warriors
the 13 warriors copies, actually some of them could have been good at the time only to change later
John Lopez
Well part 2 started up with "prince of Zahard" so probably. Weird how useless he seems to be, and uses bombs.
Jeremiah Kelly
What do you guys think Gustang will do with young Zahard's data?
No, Gustang revealed the existence of the virtual floor, so his data and memories is gone.
>And why doesn't the Wiki link to the blog? it does most of the time
Christian Carter
someone didn't take storytelling101
Julian White
There is still the guardian's god insied the train and he never saw him, so maybe we will get something before the end of the train arc?
Evan Brooks
At this point there is probably more info about lore in the blog rather than in manhwa proper.
Isaac Ross
>No, Gustang revealed the existence of the virtual floor, so his data and memories is gone.
He also stated that since he is one of the 10 families chief some of the rules don't effect him, for that reason he can talk to Baam of the plane without losing the memory of it
Nolan Edwards
Also he doesn't want Zahard's data but something the original Zahard gave to his copy
Matthew Lee
What? You should be able to fallow a story on one media only
Owen Butler
Its lazy writing, IMO. He's doesn't know how to incorporate it into Baam's journey so he has to detail it in his blog.
Juan Rodriguez
I miss the old days of ToG, it just doesn't feel the same reading it. Korean webcomics like this have the tendency to get a bit stale after you read them long enough. I dropped ToG for a few months precisely because I lost interest in it. Too bad, I hope Rak's return brings some life back into the series.
Kayden Miller
It's more world building than lazy writing. that guy has so much written down about the universe, a lot of it's just nice trivia that might not ever be important in Baam's story but will in another's..
Nathan Morales
There are a lot of characters who should know about this stuff, he really should just pick one and made him/her talk about this stuff
Jordan Lee
I'm so glad we can discuss manhwa on Sup Forums now.
Nathan Nelson
Fack off gook
Ian Perez
We've always been able to it was just one dedicated spammer ruining them.
Oliver Hill
I am happy that things have been picking up over the last couple months of chapters. Although I am disappointed in the 'strong character appears and makes MC take a test' cliche but we'll see how it goes.
Dominic Reyes
Is young Gustang gonna be in the Hidden Floor? He said your data disappears when you talk about it, maybe it's a regulars only rule though
Mason Mitchell
It's a regular and ranker rule but he said some of the rules doesn't work on him but still he can't visit the plane again
Lucas Foster
He said that only things that appear in the manwha are canon, all the lore elements he writes in his blog might be retconned at any moment. I also think he should put more world-building in the manwha proper but he probably doesn't want to put himself in a corner by writing a piece of lore on a whim and regretting it letter.
James Fisher
>letter. later.
Robert Wilson
>Sup Forums - Anime & Manga
Camden Anderson
Probably just the guardian on the true top of the tower? Baam already got two guardians souls in him
Joseph Moore
Yet some of the major informations have been told already
Like i wanted to know what the thirteenth weapon was, but he already said what it is
Jonathan Hill
I wouldn't say ToG has become stale. On the contrary I think the author is trying too many things and bringing too many new concepts and characters. The big story in ToG used to be very hazy and mysterious, but up to the Workshop Battle it managed to keep the reader interested by making him care about the relatively small cast and the immediate dangers they faced. By losing more and more focus on the past characters and introducing a lot of reveals and plot elements it became ironically less exciting. It's like ToG started as a relatively standard battle shonen but then ditched most of the characters to become a story about semi-god cuckolding. Maybe it will become interesting again when the stakes are clear and the characters start to openly defy FUG, Zahard and his goons. But for now the story still isn't clear enough for me to care about it yet, while the regulars have become so unimportant relatively to Baam and the Rankers I can't care about them anymore.
Kayden Baker
Every chapter where Cassano was in sucked for me. I hope Hatsu insta-kill him soon
Colton Hall
I wouldn't call that in particular a major information. Every relevant Month that appeared in the webtoon has been named. We also learned how many there were, who made them and what was their purpose. Giving the name of every single one is typically the kind of thing that brings nothing to the story and is better left in the blog notes.
Christopher Fisher
I get the impression that the axis are not going to be involved in this story. Could be wrong of course.
Blake Kelly
I feel the opposite.
Xavier Allen
I don't trust Headon any further than I can throw him.
Jonathan Martinez
I stopped reading just during the fight with Kaiser, thinking about catching up.
Should I go back to it now, wait or just give up?
Logan Perez
The main plot/backstory of the series finally started advancing since then, so you may want to give it a try
Jace Watson
Yeah, seems so from threads ive seen on Sup Forums But how good is it really?
David Bell
The revelations on Baam and his backstory have been pretty intense as hie origins were recently revealed and his parents.