What are your thoughts on fan service in anime? Personally I think excessive Moe and fan service is cancer of the anime industry. When I see fan service in anime/manga that try to have some sort of story or over arching plot, I see it as nothing more than the writer having little faith in their story being good and so they rely on soft core porn to keep otakus and horny teenagers hooked and buying perverted merchandise. It is also one of the reason's why anime gets so much shit from non-anime viewers and the media.
At the same time however I have no issue with anime or manga whose ALL about fan service such as prison school for example. It's a genre on its own. Some people love it and others don't, that's fine. When the fan service feels forced especially in dramatic scenarios is where it comes off as cringey for me like pic related anime, Heavy Object. Female character sits in an ejector seat which goes haywire and starts to strangle her to near death. perfect time to for fan service. Anyway what are your thoughts?
Angel Jones
Go back to whichever shithole you came from.
Luke Campbell
tl;dr
Landon Bell
Service has always existed and I don't mind it as long as the show is good or it's top tier. Heavy object was shit
Liam Gray
I didn't go past the second episode. it was really bad
Kayden Smith
You stated your opinion, but I don't feel like you made any point that could be strong enough for comment.
Elijah Howard
I'm a fan. I'm getting service.
Levi Foster
I really just want to know what /ayy general opinion on it. Whether any of you like it, love it, hate it, want more, want less? etc
Mason Campbell
I hate all this "Well, either do nothing, or go hentai". Such a simplistic mindset, I end up wondering how you people even survive with such boring views.
I like the middle ground, kinda like watching a Euro movie where you know the cute actress might get naked, but you never know when, thus delivering both the lewd and the thrill.
For a more relatable example to people of today, the difference is like finding a video with a small lewd on youtube vs going to redtube.
Michael Lopez
I didn't even finish the first episode. >Girl is being killed by defective harness >Better look at her boobs instead of saving her
Joseph Johnson
It's shit. It makes anime shit.
>fanservice More like manchildservice. I'm a fan and I don't feel serviced at all.
Julian Long
The idea that it's some kind of admission of little faith in their story being good is absurd because it assumes that no writer every wants to include fanservice (or rather, sexual titillation) out of a personal desire to include it in their work. Which is fucking ridiculous. Of course plenty of artists, writers and designers want to titillate in their work.
The concept of including sexual elements and having a story or plot are not and should never be treated as mutually exclusive, be it with them working together, or just there because they're something the creators enjoyed.
Brody Cruz
You missed on Metal Gear: the anime, the first episodes turned me off too.
Luke Green
If it's not obnoxious, it's fine. If it's a selling point of the show, like HOTD, Seikon no Qwaser or something along those lines, it's fine. It's awesome when it makes sense in the context of the story.
But shit like this is unwatchable. I liked the way you put it OP, padding the product by sexualizing random or distasteful situations is also what puts me off and I wish there was less of it.
This medium is capable of so much more when handled by the proper people.
Lucas Jenkins
>Female character sits in an ejector seat which goes haywire and starts to strangle her to near death. There wasn't supposed to be tension there. HO is a comedy
William Evans
You're right the show is a joke
Owen Watson
>moe is bad Lurk for 2 years before posting.
Andrew Gutierrez
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Hudson Kelly
I am with on the all-or-nothing aspect, i also thing its a bit reductionist.
The best 'fan service' is those that's comes logically and serves another purpose then to show the viewer some bare skin, and fits the established tone of the show. A good example where the last aspect was done very wrong in my opinion is the OVA for S1 of 'Yama no Susume': 3 minutes shorts of cute girls doing cute climbing (cute in the asexual puppy kind of way, about as non-attractive as you can get) and then the second half of the OVA is just slow panning shots of them showering. The context in the show was logical enough, but it was such a departure from the established tone of the show.
Angel Rivera
I personally think you should fuck off.
Carson Price
Oh please, I have more chins than that
Jayden Wright
Just like almost anything else. In moderation it's a nice treat.
Jeremiah Carter
It's great
John Robinson
Yes this was completely unnecessary and deeming to males. Makes anime look bad desu
Ethan Reed
*demeaning
Elijah Thompson
why is anno so perfect?
Landon Wright
Well it's the first episode so it's saying it's a show that's gonna have sexy scenes just because. It's not like you've watched 3 episodes and WHAM fan service in your face.
Jace Perez
ANY fanservice is cancer, unless it's poking fun at fanservice or otherwise extremely lighthearted. Pointless boob jiggles, half naked character, etc are all cancerous, but fanservice like that is specifically designed to service the kinds of fans Sup Forums has, so I don't know what kind of replies you expect to get honestly.
Aiden Cook
Oh, hello Re:ddit! Can you go back please we are full of summerfags.
Samuel Gonzalez
>I have no issue with anime or manga whose ALL about fan service such as prison school for example. It's a genre on its own.
While you don't, I do. A story whose sole purpose is titillation with no substance behind it is basically porn without the best parts. There needs to be a cohesive story and scenario that makes it believable and can connect to the audience.
John White
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Wyatt Gonzalez
Nice pasta.
Hudson Reed
>It is also one of the reason's why anime gets so much shit from non-anime viewers and the media.
What? Most normie shit like GoT has like 500 times the fanservice of a typical anime
Gabriel Clark
>These guys are against my opinion, fucking redditors
Juan Long
Fanservice is only good if it is a result of the sexual desire of the characters themselves.
So naturally, most fanservice in anime is shit because most of it happens in inappropriate situations and have characters react in ridiculous ways.
Gabriel White
Yeah but the thing about game of thrones is that the characters don't scream KYAAAAH, react retardedly to sexual situations and the females don't look like underage girls
Grayson Thompson
While I agree, that's what sells in the short run and that's what otaku buy.
Charles Price
It's nice when it blends in with the rest of the show naturally or is at least something interesting. I'd rather have none at all if it's just going to be yet another generic fanservice section with next to no animation and some poorly thought out lines.
Matthew Hall
/sa
Also most studios and authors depend on their IP to survive. Think it as them selling merchandise rather than stories.
Kayden James
Indifferent. I've never really seen people complain about fanservice unless you are some extreme normalfag.
Matthew Turner
If their IP was actually good, the forced fanservice wouldn't even be necessary.
Evan Fisher
>It is also one of the reason's why anime gets so much shit from non-anime viewers and the media. who cares?
Parker Cruz
Gotta maintain that public image. I mean look at what the general populace thinks of furries
Lucas Bennett
Only faggots hate fanservice. Now go back to whichever shithole you came from faggot.
Juan Lewis
Furries made that reputation themselves by being obnoxious as fuck self-proclaimed martyrs, there's little to do with the actual obsession of fucking a "girl" with a certain percentage of wild instincts.
We NEED anime to be ignored by normalfaggots. I don't want shitters like OP in my media. If you don't like something that is defining inside a media, why don't you stop caring about said thing given that it's not made for you? Why should shit bow to your personal egocentrical desires, you self-sufficient piece of shit? You're no-one and nothing.
Zachary Carter
I'm fine with most fanservice, but this scene was STUPID.
For reference, I'm fairly sure this is Heavy Object Episode 1. She was getting crushed/suffocated by the belts because of a malfunction during maintenance and MC couldn't pull at the belts because his thought process went, "oh no, I might touch her breasts?!"
FUCK OFF. She's in danger and in quite a lot of pain. Come on, Kamachi.
Justin Morales
Just about any fanservice is fine, the only ones I actually dislike is in a serious or horrific scene. Like in High School of the Dead showing panty shots while girls are being eaten alive, that's just disgusting. Or that one scene in Euphoria where a girls being electrocuted to death and they show a panty shot of her pissing and shitting herself.
Grayson Rivera
This so much. That's why it's called "pandering to the lowest common denominator", especially with the Euphoria scene.
Adrian Butler
I wish I got pandered to, but my fetish is way too specific.
Camden Ortiz
H-how specific?
Nathaniel Nguyen
I'd agree with that. Enjoyed HOTD, but they could have been more precise with their fanservice (the devouring panty shots could have been left out)
Hagure Yuusha a few seasons back also did the piss thing. It's just too much.
Nathaniel Kelly
You're not wrong, but sex sells.
Adrian Brown
>Anyway what are your thoughts?
I think you should stay on Reddit.
Aiden Miller
>It is also one of the reason's why anime gets so much shit from non-anime viewers and the media.
Christopher Price
Look into your heart my boi you know it to be true
Josiah Martinez
What even is the anime studio's though process when making scenes like that? Do they think the average anime fan will actually enjoy seeing ecchi while a girl is being brutalized?
Thomas Kelly
Otakus are weird
Luis Smith
Honestly, nothing surprises me anymore after knowing there are people who get off to guro, vore and scat
Andrew Richardson
I like it. The angry comments by normalfaggots like you and the other retards you mention in your post are just a bonus.
Josiah Nguyen
You fail hard on your second sentence, you piece of shit. Fuck off back to redit
Idiotic scum like you don't deserve a show like Heavy Object.
Mason Young
No user, you're the lowest common denominator, and no amount of shitposting and struggling will ever change this fact.
Oliver Myers
Normalfags feeling disgusted by the things I like is a not a bad thing at all.
Gavin Mitchell
The show was hot garbage user and you know it.
Owen Hall
op is a woman
Hudson Jenkins
People who dislike how fan-service is used in shows don't have to be normalfags you know. They can also be people who like fan-service, but got sick shows that disregards it's plot because of it and just put it in inappropriate places that don't fit the show.
The more you are into fan-service shit the more the flaws of shows that used it and try to be taken seriously yet do it in such a comically bad way stands out more.
Evan James
There is nothing wrong with enjoy a fanservice filled show. Even Anno is a well known Strike Witchesfag a show about flying, pantsless lesbians.
Juan Perez
t. normalfag
Brayden Cooper
Preach nibba
Alexander White
>you didn't actually like the show >you hated it >it was hot garbage >why? Because I say so, and only I matter Kill yourself, you retard. People are allowed to like what you dislike
Andrew Reed
You're welcome.
Jason Martinez
there's literally fanservice in all forms of media, it isn't just "nasty pantyshot ewww"
Carter Sanders
You're right, you're allowed to like trash
Elijah Bailey
pretty shit
people should get some taste
Brayden Gray
I don't see fan-service as evil. The way it's implemented is the big issue and always will be. You assume people are only talking about panyshot shit when that isn't even the case.
Jaxon Clark
>fanservice = lewd scenes
Jose Scott
>muh refined taste Kill yourself, normalfag
Jacob Perry
Fanservice is so childish. I only watch mature anime for mature people such as myself.
Benjamin Parker
Like what?
Parker Lopez
Can't be more childish that children's card game advertisements with shitty animation
Jayden Garcia
You are talking about an industry that targets kids, teenagers and manchildren. If you want something more "sophisticated" you need to move to a different hobby.
But it you let a few cameltoes and nipples distract you then you might not be as sophisticated as you think you are.
Jackson Evans
Woman(male)
Sebastian Wilson
I draw the line at headpats.
Dylan Ramirez
It works as long as it doesn't disrupt the tone of the show.
Take the classic "girl is in danger, guy tackles girl to safety, guy lands in girl's chest" move. If that's done as a conclusion to a battle, like a final explosion, then it works. The tension in the scene is over and the fanservice acts as a nice little way to get the audience to relax again. If the scene is during the final battle and the big bad is slowly coming closer to deal the killing blow, then it disrupts the flow and tonality of the scene.
Fanservice is fine as long as it's not out of place thematically.
Angel Watson
Not him, but I do yearn for more high brow anime. >industry that targets kids, teenagers and manchildren. Exactly, the golden age is over. Art factories are operational.
Brody Wright
There was no golden age though. Even old beloved shows such as Yatterman and Doraemon featured naked lolis, sex jokes and ecchi. In fact if you compare it with today's shows you are going to realize how softcore are things now.
Thomas Rogers
Why don't you just fuck off if you don't like it? Your types never actually support the industry anyway.
Chase Phillips
>all these 12 year olds telling OP to fuck off while having absolutely no arguments whatsoever
kek
I don't mind it most of the time but I agree that it can demerit a series if used excessively. For example, I couldn't get past episode 3 of Kill la Kill because fan service in that felt so tacky and retarded.
Samuel Nguyen
>being offended by Kill la Kill You can fuck off too.
Daniel Stewart
NEWSFLASH: People have different opinions on the way they perceive fanservice.
Adrian Fisher
easy there buzzword-kun, you've really got to learn when to pull out the big guns or else you come off as a massive faggot
Landon Flores
I was not offended m8, work on your reading comprehension. I just found it trashy as shit and lost interest when it was evident it was all the show had going for it.
Owen Ward
I liked klk for the action and I respect your opinion for not wanting to watch it
Parker Garcia
It's great if kept in moderation
David Morales
Please don't use hime next time you decide to shitpost.
Jason Robinson
It's the only reason why I'm here, to be honest.
Zachary Parker
I dont like it when its out of place in the show, also I find onsen episodes trite
Grayson Robinson
I love it, cause I'm a lewd dude.
That being said, fan service is why I'll never watch anime in public or around anyone else. Because you never know when it will appears, and I don't want some dude on the plane looking over and seeing lewd shit on my screen
Angel Martin
I don't like it. Unnecessary panty shots and bath scenes do nothing for me but take me out of the story and annoy me.
It's especially heinous when it's an otherwise entertaining action or sci-fi show that I would recommend to friends or family and all of a sudden there's awkward shit in it that's stupid in-context and would make me look like a creep with none for suggesting it.
Stop putting in shitty fanservice. Save the swimsuit and bath scenes and panty shots for the box set so you can still profit off all the lonely otaku without shitting up the main plot with it