The reason for the IQ gap between Whites and Blacks has more to do with cultural/socioeconomic issues rather than race itself. Consider that mental tests from WW1 show Black draftees from a few Nothern States outscoring White draftees in several Southern States. After WWlI, Black and White American soldiers had children with German women. The children of these parents had identical IQ.
Race Realism Debunked
Hudson Barnes
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Christian Jenkins
Nathaniel Reyes
Mason Peterson
Twin studies. It seems that around 80% is based off of nature, the other 20% nurture.
Chase Hall
>literate black draftees
>IQ threshold for joining military
samples like that are worthless and don't anything
Samuel Adams
*don't debunk anything
Owen Garcia
Minnesota Trans-racial Adoption Study proved it's not to do with cultural/socioeconomic issues, negro.
William James
>cultural
ie racial
William Collins
The fact that you have to dig so deep just to get a doubt in should clue actual racists into your intellectual prestidigitation. Nigs gonna nig. It's played out forever.
Nignogs are Jewish golems. 0/10
Zachary Reed
Race realism is intended to distract from class awareness and perspectives on wealth distribution
Colton Diaz
The IQ test is not a valid measurement of overall intelligence I'll grant, but it is rhetorically valuable because it breaks the narrative of egalitarianism. Certainly socioeconomic factors and the nature of the questions asked both factor in to the average IQ which will be recorded in a human population. What people do need to realize though is that biology is the root and society is the flower when it comes to building a civilization. Due to the evolutionary adaptations of different human populations, certain groups will be more genetically predisposed to certain behavioral patterns.
Cooper Kelly
In order for the gaps in IQ to be explained away by socioeconomic factors, the socioeconomic conditions of blacks in the USA (because they're the only stats I know) would have to be 2 standard deviations lower than those of whites.
They're not. Not even close. If you read the Bell Curve, he did these calculations. He eliminated all possible effects (through complex stats that I don't even want to begin explaining) leaving only the biological factors and the gap was still 2 std deviations apart.
Race is real. Statistical analysis (and simple fucking observation) proves it.
Hunter Adams
that explains why africans would not have invented the wheel to this if not for other people
Logan Nguyen
Africans cultivated a culture that favored tribal tradition over progress. How intelligent they were as individuals took a back seat to worshiping their gods, upholding their sacrifices, etc.
Jordan Gray
I agree that it's retarded to identify as your race (when any race does it, including blacks), and I agree that there's absolutely nothing wrong with racemixing, but there certainly is an IQ difference.
Shit, I can't find the infographic...
Jace Stewart
Name one successful majority black country
IQ correlations:
Same person (tested twice) .95
Identical twins—Reared together .86
Identical twins—Reared apart .76
Fraternal twins—Reared together .55
Fraternal twins—Reared apart .35
Biological siblings—Reared together .47
Biological siblings—Reared apart .24
Biological siblings—Reared together—Adults .24
Unrelated children—Reared together—Children .28
Unrelated children—Reared together—Adults .04
Cousins .15
Parent-child—Living together .42
Parent-child—Living apart .22
Adoptive parent–child—Living together .19
James Wilson
This is the infographic that redpilled me on this topic.
Cooper Taylor
Black Americans are 30% white on average. Mix with a German woman (women carry most IQ potential, not sperm) and the child is average 35% black 65% white. The studies showed the mixed children has 5 IQ points differential. Close but not the same. Averages are good, but the extremes of IQ are the important factor.
I know 2 Masters graduates from Nigeria, from "royal" families, i.e the 1%, and they both have sub 125 IQs, and they're the cream of Nigerias educational system. They're smart, and hard working but they're not like the highly educated whites. The gulf is significant. Blacks very rarely have the 160+ IQ types required for great leaps forward in technology and discovery.
Have a look into IQ and the importance of the mother. Smart children only need a smart mother. The gut bacteria the mother transfers to the child is critical for IQ potential and brain development.
Look around you and be honest; black people really haven't contributed much. Stop deluding yourself. Mixed race children get most of their IQ from their mother, and if the mother is white, then there is your answer.
Mason Jones
muh dick
muh dick
Tyler Rodriguez
sauce?
Jack Williams
Or you can realize that most of the wealthy people in the world are Jews and arrive at the same conclusion.
Bentley Moore
Niggers aren't dumb because they're poor, they're poor because they're dumb.
Sebastian Nguyen
Did you even finish reading that wikipedia article? This retarded pseudo-science study is debunked right then and there. God I fucking hate you for making this thread.
Sage this slide-shit, ffs.
Samuel Russell
Shut the fuck up nigger you have zero evidence.
Ryan Fisher
Ok I’ll give that to you. That still doesn’t negate the fact that northern blacks were intellectually smarter than southern whites.
Landon Russell
I just provided two sources. Lmao
Angel Jenkins
"IQ" is not a scientific designation for anything.
Luke Rivera
That one is simple. US army turned down all who fell below some cognitive treshold. Therefore, black GIs in occupational forces were not typical representatives of population.
Cameron Johnson
>its 2018
>people still "argue" over well established facts, with phoney made up "counter arguments" which are based on nothing, just feel good speculation
>when the debate was already settled at least 5 years ago here
>and racial realism has won on all fronts
christ, why dont you cunts fuck off already
Alexander Morris
definitely confounding variables in this study, good point user
Nolan Rivera
most people dont understand the influence of culture on a person, which usually goes hand in hand with race
Gavin Johnson
I invite you all to skip with the non-scientific bullshit and watch this documentary about the truth about race. It will change your mind and life!
Jaxson Baker
>The reason for the IQ gap between Whites and Blacks has more to do with cultural/socioeconomic issues
Yes and blacks have shit culture that they themselves created. Blacks will not adhere to white culture. Therefore race realism stands.
Josiah Johnson
I thought Sup Forums was a board of free speech and debate, not your nazi echo chamber?
Gabriel Evans
thats just your jew excuse to spam garbage on this board, you should be banned.
Juan Hill
Exactly
Mostly this. Selective pressures encountered by Europeans of Indoeuropean descent did preserve many of the advantageous Neanderthal genes from the ancient hybridization with the original H. sapiens. Basal African humans totally lack these sequences while modern Africans are very low on them due to limited backmigration and lack of selective pressures to retain these genes.
Justin Hernandez
You're not debating anything, nigger asshole, you're just saying you believe something and refusing to back it up somehow fuck off back to plebbit.
Jason Sullivan
I literally provided two sources. Are you blind retard?
Aaron Campbell
How does this debunk race reality :S :S :S :S :S :S :S :S :S :S :S :S :S
Mason Cruz
The SAT and LSAT is proof race realism is real.
We're talking about a sample size in the millions with every distinguishable variation and STILL blacks come out under no matter what variables you change
Noah Young
I think Jensen covers most of the issues.
Plus "black" in this case could range from full blown Africans to quadroons.
These could be comparing octaroons to whites.
Charles Carter
ACADEMICS; PLEASE RESPOND!!!
Hunter Wilson
Two "sources" from a fucking century ago before the discovery of DNA put a fucking loaded shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger, nigger asshole, no one needs your idiotic nigger babble.
Xavier Barnes
You won’t get any, just a bunch of poltard neckbeards sperging out over actual evidence that debunks their entire racist worldview.
Evan Green
FUCK OFF NIGGER ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
EVERY ASPECT OF BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE AGREES WITH US
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET OFF MY BOARD
Asher Sullivan
Oh yeah lol
Josiah Jackson
If you have the 'Morality and Abstract Thinking.png' please update it to this one. I made that image over a year ago and there is a part two that is always left out. This is the full story, images could not be included due to file requirements.
Jace Jones
Nah not really most scholars believe that tge ancient Egyptians were nubian blacks but you don't believe it
Oliver Adams
Anyone worth his salt admits the differences in IQ are mostly genetic.
They have studied this to death, there is nothing environmental that we have discovered to increase IQ.
If you know of a solution go ahead and get a nobel prize,
the world is willing to pay you billions for the low IQ cure.
Easton Campbell
bait thread
>in all fields
Jeremiah Cruz
It dosen't but race dosen't exist most of the differences you think of can be explained through genetic mutations, natural selection and climate adaptation
Especially the skulls, for example negroid skulls come in many shapes snd sizes some are smaller some are much larger but skull size is difficult for forensic anthropology to identify in the real feild beacuse of admixture
Joshua Flores
Of course race exists you fucking moron cladistics predicts it. Wherever cumulative selection for some genetic mutation occurs in a trend a race is diverging from the people who didn't have those cumulative mutations to one which possesses them exclusively. That is race. Now shut the fuck up.
William Ross
No they don't. You are literally crazy and that is why nobody takes you seriously.
Hunter Howard
The Black-White IQ gap exists even when both races are raised in identical environments.
sciencedirect.com
Anthony Collins
It already got debunked, see:
Besides that, what real-world evidence is there for Africans being as intelligent as Westerners? There are no great scientists, civilizations, achievements, etc, which require a high average IQ.
Brody Harris
>MTRS
>Rushton and Jensen
>color of crime
>human history
vs. study with
>selective bias (draftees, 3% of whites excluded, vs 30% of blacks)
>vague racial status (Algerian bastards are included in the stats, and "African American" in this time included octaroons)
>men and women being 8 points apart in spite of the general population being more or less equal
Racists utterly debunked
Wyatt Evans
You haven't lived among niggers have you?
These people can hardly tie their own shoes.
Logan Lewis
Yes they do absolutely what you think the Egyptians were blonde hair and blue eyes? Lmao! There are many scholors that point out that they were nubians
They migrated out of Egypt and into sub Africa genetic test have shown african Americans carry 1/10 ansestry from egypt with them
academia.edu
anthrogenica.com
The genes of sub shararan africans
Dylan Hall
Lol!!!
Julian Collins
>Several other researchers have been skeptical about the value of the study for illuminating the causes of racial IQ differences.
>Arthur Jensen has pointed out that the white girls in the study obtained an average IQ eight points below that of the white boys, suggesting a sampling error, because in the WISC standardization sample the average IQs of boys and girls are equal (among the mixed-race subjects in the Eyferth study, there was a small sex difference of 1 point, favoring boys). He has also noted that the IQs of the children's mothers and fathers are unknown, and that white and black G.I.'s in Germany were not equally representative of their respective populations, since about 30 percent of blacks, compared to about 3 percent of whites, failed the preinduction mental test and were not admitted into the armed forces. He further argues that the selective preferences of the German women with regard to sexual partners may have influenced the results in an unknown manner. Moreover, nearly all of the children were tested before adolescence, i.e. before the genotypic aspect of IQ has become fully manifested. Finally, Jensen suggests that heterosis may have enhanced the IQ level of the mixed race children in the study.[8]
>Rushton and Jensen have further pointed out that 20–25% of the fathers in the study were not African Americans but rather French North Africans.[9]
>military weeds out dumbest blacks from service
>quarter of "blacks" in study weren't actually black
>this is constantly touted by "cultural only" proponents
Sad!
This exact topic has been posted twice by the same user. How pathetic.
Hudson Ortiz
It would be nice if everyone was equal.
Why on earth would you think average intelligence would be the same among all groups of people anyway?
Why and how would natural selection even achieve that?
Anthony Butler
Egypt was Ethiopian in their own words
sacred-texts.com
Ancient Egyptian nubian DNA
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Keep in mind that the recent DNA test of the Egyptian mummies were ones of the 18th B.C arab invaders of Egypt not the 2200 BC Egyptians that built the pyramids
Charles King
>posting MULTIPLE threads with the exact same argument and premise
look at this absolutely fucking disgusting piece of shit
>
Seriously, you dont care about facts if you're going to make two or more fucking threads, you're just spewing shit that you take for granted, not here for any thoughtful conversation
You need your fucking severed head on a pike, you dumb fucking propaganda spewing useful idiot
Brandon Jenkins
>Yes they do absolutely what you think the Egyptians were blonde hair and blue eyes?
I never said that, you retard.
Ancestry of ancient Egyptians:
>sarkoboros.net
>Here we mtDNA and nuclear DNA from mummified humans recovered from Middle Egypt that span around 1,300 years of ancient Egyptian history from the Third Intermediate to the Roman Period. Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more Near Eastern ancestry than present-day Egyptians, who received additional Sub-Saharan admixture in more recent times. This analysis establishes ancient Egyptian mummies as a genetic source to study ancient human history and offers the perspective of deciphering Egypt’s past at a genome-wide level.
TL;DR you are still crazy
Good one.
Jack Brown
>quarter of "blacks" in study weren't actually black
Elaborate?
Ryan Sanders
Hello mexicano, é foda ser pardo né?
Jace Lewis
>thought Sup Forums was a board of free speech and debate
So you post multiple of the same threads?
You really are a fucking disgusting piece of shit leftist, and the average white american male probably wouldnt hesitate to put you out of your misery, given the chance to get away with it
Parker Allen
Hola que paso?
Kevin Roberts
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>Ancient DNA from Nubian and Somali wild ass provides insights into donkey ancestry and domestication
What?
Actually, I'm done with you.
Dylan Wood
at least learn how to be deceptive using stats so you dont get called out by the first 13yo passing by
Connor Campbell
Thank you for correcting the record.
Anthony Barnes
>Egypt was Ethiopian in their own words
How does that prove that "blacks" are as intelligent as whites? And Ethiopians may have black skin, but they're not "black". Race is more than skin color. See:
>For example, east African groups, such as Ethiopians and Somalis, have great genetic resemblance to Caucasians and are clearly intermediate between sub-Saharan Africans and Caucasians [5]
>Most recently, Wilson et al. [2] studied 354 individuals from 8 populations deriving from Africa (Bantus, Afro-Caribbeans and Ethiopians), Europe/Mideast (Norwegians, Ashkenazi Jews and Armenians), Asia (Chinese) and Pacific Islands (Papua New Guineans). Their study was based on cluster analysis using 39 microsatellite loci. Consistent with previous studies, they obtained evidence of four clusters representing the major continental (racial) divisions described above as African, Caucasian, Asian, and Pacific Islander. The one population in their analysis that was seemingly not clearly classified on continental grounds was the Ethiopians, who clustered more into the Caucasian group. But it is known that African populations with close contact with Middle East populations, including Ethiopians and North Africans, have had significant admixture from Middle Eastern (Caucasian) groups, and are thus more closely related to Caucasians [14].
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I'm not going to address the rest of your post as it's unsubstantiated nosense.
John Ward
I’m actually larping dumbass. I want to hear real, irrefutable arguments that debunk these arguments Incase I ever run across a liberal that use these studies to disprove race realism. I’m doing this so I can rile you guys up and think critically about the validity of these studies. And the reason why I posted two is because people didn’t actually throughly debunk the studies at hand, they kept deflecting by posting info graphics and stupid memes
Julian Cox
Wow, another one.
Embarrassingly pathetic, considering how easily debunked his argument is.
Cooper Sanders
> muh throwing gibs at nogs makes them smarter
KILL YOURSELF
Ethan Martinez
See
Ryder Richardson
And it's not acceptable to post the exact same thread multplie times. Please fuck off.
Xavier Robinson
Like i said that new 2017 study was really the "arab Egyptian" invaders of 1800 B.C not 2200BC those mummies can be easily explained
Blonde hair on mummies explained
Remember the ancient Egyptians migrated out of Egypt and into sub africa there are many different africans with different hair texture and skull shapes that developed beacuse of climate adaptation just beacuse they are all negroid skulls dosen't mean they are all the same in terms of size
And i think you are also missing the point here
Ryan Morgan
So tell me what is "black" according to you? Larping Christian