I've recently just finished watching the Sargon v. Anglin "debate." Without getting into details about thay shitshow.
I have one question for the more hardcore entho nationalist side of the alt-right:
Assuming you don't have a problem with violence, (which is ultimately required for you to achieve your desired state) why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave?
>inb4 "cuz you're a nigger." That's not a valid response imo. According to this country, as it currently stands I have every right to call this country my home as much as you do. Even then, I think having a sizable ancestry at least, constitutes some kind of consideration from whomever.
Race in America is the same big business that the Holocaust is for kikes in Europe Racism will get you a job after college and support your family Be thankful you shitty nigger
Michael Fisher
african americans are a special case because they were brought against their will, and will always be more American than Hans who got here via Paperclip. I just wish more of you weren't fucking idiots
Thomas Carter
We can form an ethnostate for blacks near the south.
Noah Myers
i didn't read but man it's almost as if i can smell your picture from here
disgusting
David Wright
But, what if I already concede to the fact that blacks are shit at running a nation?
Jeremiah Sanders
that said, I also think you live in the best possible time and place to reap the benefits of being black and using them to improve yourself and your people
nigger
Samuel Wright
Don't you fucking dare mess with Dixie
Isaac Morales
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave?
checked.
You shouldn't. The european/sub saharan hybrid is a species new and unique to the American continent. This species should be acknowledged and judged by its own characteristics. The onves with an IQ
Jaxon Stewart
Hi muh nigga.
Caleb Ramirez
Did you watch Tariq Nasheed vs. Jared Taylor? If you want to avoid violence do one of two things. >stop the left from creating white nationalist >support bolshevik ideals If neither of these happen, violence will and regardless of you ancestors you won't have the luxury of asking the mob the same questions you are doing here.
Dylan Hall
Nigger
Aaron Bailey
Kill yourself nigger
Brayden Ramirez
Why are you here brother? This place is filled with racist losers who hate people like us.
Tyler Nelson
If chickens can't secure their existence as a species by roaming wild, but by being farmed for their nutritional value, would you say blacks, as the shit tier for humans, should go back to being slaves? I wholeheartedly believe Africa should have run its course long before the transatlantic slave trade, where the best of blacks found out how to be civilized and outlived their worst.
Jackson Cooper
Because your group as a whole is a huge net negative.
Why should I be cursed with my parent's genetics?
Why should I have to go to a mediocre school?
Why should my friends also be low income?
Actions have consequences and there are things that happen in this world that you do not control that you WILL pay for (having a low IQ or poor genetics), collective punishment still exists and will continue to exist. Do children choose poor genetics, do they choose a mediocre school and do they choose to be low income? No it's a consequence of group choices (their family and their race), same thing with kicking you out, it's a consequence of your group.
The better question is:
Why should whites tolerate parasites?
Why should whites tolerate criminal parasites?
Why should whites tolerate criminal parasites who hate them?
Nolan Richardson
You have to go back.
Henry Bailey
because we don't care how you feel about it
Juan Richardson
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Blake Walker
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave?
The question is retarded. The white race is being killed off. You should ask yourself and your fellow non-whites, why does my race need to die?
Your boot is literally on our face, stomping the life out of us and we're dying, and you're asking us if we want ice cream or champagne?
And BTW in case you didn't notice, Anglin and Richard Spencer are both retarded for admitting they want an ethno-state, because just admitting it, makes it impossible to ever get it, it just give ammunition to our enemies, now non-whites win every argument.
Daniel Clark
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave? Will to power brah, it's not about should and should not. It's about is is possible or is it not possible.
Isaiah Nelson
Serious question guys. Is ANYONE on Sup Forums over 18? Please be honest.
Cameron Bell
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Ayden Diaz
>pol is one person I think black people should have their own ethnostate too, probably some of the southern states.
Jonathan Torres
is that a Rhodesian ridgeback?
Brayden Sanchez
Democrats are the real racists
Jaxon Thomas
The reason we want to seperate nations by race is the same Malcolm X did, whenever integration happens, the majority race gains an unfair amount of power.
Ryan Cook
Don't ever apologize for your race, pol isn't a place to treat as a rational discussion forum but rather should be treated as a place to laugh and and unleash anger upon others.
I really wanted to put a sheeeit meme but then I read your message. No matter what race you are you'll always get here shit, but if you're black/jewish/arab and so on it's a lot more likely to happen.
Owen Wright
Well I would like to improve the state of blacks. But running for any sort of office would probably be first off expensive, and secondly pretty difficult because I would definitely run a platform that would be in conflict with the interest of the welfare state that occupy mainly all of black majority cities.
Robert Russell
The US is either going to split up (not happening) or turning into a fatter version of Brazil, so I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
John Garcia
Because it's a conflict of interest, it was a mistake you're on that continent in the first place
Although I think we could let you have it and take our whites back, it's all the same to us because we'll be rich on either continent
Logan Walker
The state is inherently 'violent' anyway, all policy is backed by the force of the state. Changing policy to have a group removed is in no means any more of an infringement on citizen rights than what is already happening to white people. In practical terms, whites are being infringed upon, and that won't change unless some sort of racial action is taken.
Adam Jones
If you are smart enough to maintain employment, and act as a cohesive unit within the civilization, I see no issue.
I take huge issue with unemployed niggers who act like I owe them something because of the color of my skin. What is a nigger you may ask?
It is an unemployed bum who thinks everyone owes them something. Niggers are usually african of decent. We have the term "white trash" for their Caucasian variants.
As far as I am concerned, tax paying land owners should be the only people who have a vote that counts. Want to not contribute and just pay rent? Fine, but don't expect your vote to count either.
Chase Barnes
hello american friend
Anthony Sullivan
Well I guess shooting you is justified in your opinion.
Disregarding common morality, and or laws, I would be totally justified in causing harm to you. Personally I wouldn't, but accordibg to your words I would be justified.
Ian Perry
Access to white people is not a right.
Ryan Edwards
Because we want to preserve the future of our people, as i'm sure you want to preserve the future of yours. immigration en-masse & interbreeding will obliterate our race from existence. Our race - the one responsible for practically everything in the modern world.
Jace Kelly
might makes right if we can make you leave and you cant stop us then it is what it is.
Joshua Rivera
You can have your own ethnostate of hang with the liberals. Violence is what the state does. Guarding borders, taxation, property rights, all of it requires violence.
Ethnostate won't happen, but if it does, it would be one are that is already mostly white. I would recommend checking out Marcus Garvey, who was a proper black nationalist who wanted black people to have sovereignty, not just a place in white society.
Thomas Morgan
Go back to Wakanda
Alexander Robinson
> as it currently stands I have every right to call this country my home as much as you do No, you don't. This country was originally founded as an ethnostate, it's just that such a state was implied and to think otherwise was absurd. Make no mistake, the founding fathers were extremely racist, and rightfully so. As another poster pointed out, your group as a whole is a net negative, which leads me to my next point.
>inb4 "cuz you're a nigger." >That's not a valid response imo. Actually, it is. Whereas you may pay your taxes and be a decent citizen. Can you guarantee your children will be? What about your children's children, and so forth? If you know anything about biology and regression towards the mean, then you should understand that while you, yourself may be an anomaly, you carry cretinous and destructive DNA inside of you. To which you may argue "Well then I won't have children." But that too, would require "violence" to enforce. So we're right back at square 1 then aren't we.
The simple truth is that your kind is incapable of building, or even maintaining a civilization. And the more of you any society harbors, the more it will decay. You represent a scourge upon civilization.
Landon Scott
>Why should whites tolerate criminal parasites who hate them? They shouldn't have to tolerate it, but my main point is that those blacks definitely have a right to there home as much you do. You two just happen to share that home.
You and your kind are leeching off our achievements and our resources. If you are so useful and ambitious, go rebuild your ancestral home.
Carson Diaz
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave? American nigs have been in America for like 300 years, they don't have to leave and i honestly don't care about Burgerland. In Europe, the foreigners who leech on welfare and/or commit crimes should be deported to wherever the came from
Xavier Lee
Why do ypu feel entitled to live among non blacks if nothing is wrong with. Lacks?
Gavin Watson
I don't believe in your rights.
Leo James
basically the dream of the 'ethnostate' is that you would eventually WANT to leave and join your own ethnostate in Africa or wherever after a sufficient amount of time passing proved beyond doubt that 'ethnostates' were objectively better in every way.
nazism is and always has been a civic religion engineered to produce a gestalt supportive of endless (and thus doomed) military aggression, and nothing more. it is a tool used to create conflicts, by those who profit from them.
Eli Moore
pretty much this.
Jacob Lewis
DUDE WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?
Michael Hernandez
>stop the left from creating white nationalist Okay sure. But another question I have is that, why do have to retreat to such an extreme? I mean I'm literally going an anonymous convesation with people who want me out at all cost.
But you don't see me treating to the comfort of some black interest group. Doing so is pretty weak in my opinion.
Connor Jenkins
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave?
You shouldn't. USA should be partitioned and your people given their own country inside north america, it's only fair.
Charles Gutierrez
>Racism will get you a job after college and support your family
*Crying racism will get you a job after college and support your family.
It's sad but true. I'm personally against it.
James Cooper
What do you think is the solution aside from blacks opening their eyes, like you did? What else can we do? I'm all for anyone wanting to join in, contribute, and most of all shut the fuck up.
Whites are only 10% of the world's population, yet are the most industrious and innovative race the world has known in the last 600 years. Whites unlocked the secrets of DNA and relativity, launched satellites, created automation, discovered electricity and nuclear energy, invented automobiles, aircraft, submarines, radio, television, computers, medicine, telephones, light bulbs, photography, and countless other technological miracles. Whites were the first to circumnavigate the planet by ship, orbit it by spacecraft, walk on the moon, probe beyond the solar system, climb the highest peaks, reach both poles, exceed the sound barrier, descend to the oceans depths... The majority of the world’s blacks/browns cannot even feed themselves. Whites have to provide food, medical, financial, and engineering aid to every black/brown nation. Blacks/brown cannot survive without White charity. Reality. Fact. Show me one black/brown nation we shld emulate. Show me one of those people not dying to get into a white nation where order, civility and potential are real. And yet, once here, it is the blacks/browns who are responsible for the majority of crimes and receiving the most welfare. Sad. Very sad. Whites - remember with pride your exceptional history and revolt against racist POS animals like self-hating Pelosi, the black caucus, BLM, the hate-riddled jihadists, the hateful-illegal invaders and the Jewish mafia who hate white Christian males more than anyone has yet dared admit. All of these haters want to live in the world created by White Christians while tearing down the only people capable of building it. They fight like vultures over their demise and scramble to grab everything from them
Bentley Ward
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave? Because multiracialism is an atrocity against whites. Therefore, separation, however it is achieved, is the moral duty of humanity.
Lincoln Gutierrez
1. Non-whites have been brought into the country without ever asking the population. White people don't have to except their extinction, which is going to happen if we don't change the current trend. 2. There are non-violent ways of removing non-whites, we can give incentives for them to leave. Forced deportation is only the the last option if nothing else works.
William Perry
Hey nigger get the fuck back to the cotten fields or ill lynch you and your fucking family got it?
Juan Martinez
Why are over half of these comments coming from people in Europe? Get the fuck out of our business. You don't know a damn thing about the Untied States. Fuck you, and fuck your (((cable television))) perspectives.
Cooper Edwards
>a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself
Kevin Diaz
of course the islamic caliphate France wouldn't mind niggers staying in AMERICA
Josiah Cruz
>as the shit tier for humans I mean, intellectually I've conceded we are. But physically we're pretty top tier. >should go back to being slaves? No, because at that point they don't have freedoms. Yeah sure they're pretty shit, but that shouldn't be the entire basis of denying them their own humanity and free will.
Isaiah Johnson
>You shouldn't. USA should be partitioned and your people given their own country inside north america, it's only fair. Even if the majority of Americans somehow decide that segregated ethnostates (and obviously ethnic cleansings) are OK, there would be too many fights over which group gets which area. This is just dumb and unrealistic
Nathaniel King
They have a right to have their own piece of ethno-state here just as much as paco. The problem is fixing those communities and it's people. >Pol is ridden with cia and nsa and black mailed pedofiles.
Robert Nelson
You shouldn't have to leave the country, and neither should anyone else based on ethnicity. I'm sick to death of this 'white nationalist' crap, it's just as collectivist and racially obsessed as anything the left spews out their collective asses.
The United States is not a white only nation, and I'd never want it to be. I know plenty of people who immigrated to the US legally from crap hole countries who love this country and are successful, and at the same time I know plenty of stupid white people who were born here who are idiots. OP you have my respect! Don't let these white nationalist losers deter you!
Joshua Adams
Reverse the question... Why, after intruding in another people's country for centuries (?a dubious claim?) should you not stop whining and blaming your hosts for things that are your responsibility. Statistics, which we have miles of, prove how dangerous your biology makes you even under the best of circumstances in the wealthiest society on earth. Sociological proves that even a drug pushing, house burgling Nord has a massively greater chance of producing progeny that will be of benefit to society whilst your descendants are highly likely (off the top of the chart likely) to produce heinous criminals or at the very best whinging useless neets that take no responsibility for themselves and pass that responsibility off onto your hosts and victims. There are exceptions of course but they are like rocking horse shit to find and even then they share many of your flaws; and Sociologically you cannot judge a group by the exceptions you must judge the group. >>>>this is your question answered. I hope you are happy now. Please go and improve Africa, they, unlike us, need you (to chop up for juju).
Ian Taylor
explain this away then nigger! If you really htink you fucking apes are compatible why do you murder and pillage and rape non-stop, only like degenerate shit and insist on blaming us and forsaking the white man and Christ for giving you everything
Grayson Richardson
Vast majority of American ethnostate fags are larpers You know why? Because they never actually try to form their own communities in isolated regions of the midwest, they just bitch and moan about it online.
Jace Young
Your welcome for allowing subhuman to use the internet... Nigger
Adam Gutierrez
not at all in a post civil war scenario, which is what we're probably looking at within the next 50 years.
And if not 50, with certainty in the next 100
Brandon Jackson
white minority goverment that genuinly works for the good of your state imho if the whole of africa had 10% whites just running the goverments and the important shit and the blacks just following that would be best for everyone
Benjamin Kelly
Maybe don't bend over to kikes next time.
Colton Adams
>just happen I do not think this was ever the case. It is like a squatter who stays long enough or has children during the 14th amendment. You were taken from your real homes by Jews and had to be brutalized and dehumanized under their rule where Jews fought to keep slavery alive. The obvious solution is to deport every slave and slave ancestor from which they came, but I perfectly am OK with an ethnostate for blacks near the South.
Juan Cruz
>I have every right to call this country my home as much as you do. Because that right was given to you by the people who founded this country. These people have been robbed of their power in the meantime, so you get to do whatever you like. It should be in your interest, though, that these people never rise to power again because you might find yourself on the next boat to Liberia.
Leo Nguyen
I don't give two shits about what you think is valid.
Easton Gray
You're fat.
Eli King
You were brought over on a stinky boat, you weren’t ever meant to be a citizen
Gabriel Campbell
Since your question limits itself to some ameriburgers, lemme state that by the looks of your arm you're prolly 12 and need to eat some fucking bacon.
Jacob Carter
The US will never uncuck thmselves and start killing niggers, too many redneck ancaps, you're safe. As far as Europe goes there WILL be a bloodbath (or at least massive deportations) and as far as what you wrote as adequate for a mass genocide to be considerate immoral (which seems to be time of recidency and good citizenship), niggers and muslims in Europe have done any of the two. So the question is, would you support or at least contrast the opposition in creating an ethnonationalist revolution in Europe?
Luke Powell
We could run the nation for you I guess.
Liam Barnes
based blacks exist but, they as a group will always seek to undermine us...
Nathaniel Morales
I'm going give you the inside tip. Nobody cares about Sargon.
If this fat simp "Sargon" was any sort of a roadblock I would have personally smashed his stupid little opportunist cynic YouTube gig many years ago. The guy is a non-issue, ok. Just some low IQ British snobbic.
People of consequence do not care about Sargon.
That's all
Luke Gomez
You paid a nigger, didn't you?
Liam Cruz
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Colton Rogers
You may be confusing a globalist state that seeks to destroy all identity and culture in order that one power may rule in a totalitarian way with a normal state like England which throughout its history always welcomed foreigners as guests or settlers but in reasonable numbers that are not destructive to everything that is decent and good and right in society.
Jordan Mitchell
You self identify as a black liberal? You sound stupid, why not just say you are a black liberal if you are one. I don’t “self identify” as a reactionary, I fucking AM one. This “self identity” shit is a one way ticket to me disregarding the rest of your post
Blake Smith
They were brought here against their will and their is nothing wrong with killing them or sending them back against their will. Hans is more American because he is a nigger slave descendant people felt bad for
Thomas Reed
With crack
Jaxson Sanchez
Can you define black?
Bentley Moore
By the way e-celebs glow in the dark.
Leo White
>inb4 cuz you're a nigger Who enforces those rights, black man? Is it... a bunch of white people in robes and cop uniforms? You are at our mercy and don't necessarily have "rights" once there's no authority to protect you.
Dumb niggers don't understand power. 0/10
Jayden Reed
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Luis Wright
>he drank the liberalist coolaid lol
anyway, i guess ill answer your question. >"cuz youre a nigger" is not a valid response no, it is. but it requires a bit of elaboration. the character of a people is tied very heavily to race. its not 100% determined by race mind you, but race influences much of your perception of things. this is why there are communities that are naturally racially segregated: people act according to their race. by and large blacks follow an extremely ingroup focused mentality, the whole "crips and bloods" thing. the majority are also not contributers to the country in any substantial form, with their own noteworthy contributions being the increase in population and debt they bring. this comes from the long standing psychological evolutionary traits that blacks have come to hold: extreme tribal preference, worth within the ingroup being proportional to percieved strength etc. these are all carry overs from your ancestry as an african. now compare this to asians. they also tend to segregate themselves if they can find enough numbers (case in point: canada, australia). asians, and specifically the chinese very rarely commit actual crimes. they follow rules and guidelines extremely well. they have done so for thousands of years, and as a result they have evolved to specialize in being able to follow rote instructions with extreme efficiency. this is why asians are good at math and hard sciences, but tend to find difficulty in lines of work that require a bit more creativity. this doesnt mean chinese people cant be creative, but that they are naturally predisposed against creativity and will have to work to overcome that handicap.
as a result of these evolutionary differences, the races will always clash, and the races will always find themselves more at home with their own kin. continuing to reside in the country will only breed distaste for you over anothers race, and they will come to resent you too.
Cooper Gomez
lmao nigger, you should go back to affrica and amerifats back to europe probably
Carter Ross
>Assuming you don't have a problem with violence, (which is ultimately required for you to achieve your desired state) Violence wasn't required to do the opposite, to run white nations into favela status. You just needs jews in media gaslighting everyone 6 ways from sunday.
Aaron James
This is the ultimate solution: paying niggers to get sterilized.
>It's 100% voluntary for all parties. >It doesn't involve violence. >It can be done through private companies and so does not require majority votes.
Not all niggers will participate, but enough will that we can get the nigger percentage down to 5% in no time, and people will see all the advantages that accrue to our society without niggers.
Ryder Myers
>why should a person like me, a person who was born here, pays his taxes, no criminal history, keeps to himself, and has ancestory that dates back centuries in the nation, be forced to leave? Blacks make up approximately 13% of the population. I personally support the creation of a new nation, given approximately 13% of the territory of the US, with no exclaves, usable farmland, and reasonably large coastal access. I don't think you should "leave" in the sense of "go back to Africa."
Kevin White
You can have CA and NY. The condition is you have to keep ALL races currently living there, to do what you will. Be fun to see how long it takes you to destroy those established states.
David Thomas
>The white race is being killed off. Show me where the global non-white population collectively got together and demanded the genocide of white people than I'll agree.
>You should ask yourself and your fellow non-whites, why does my race need to die? First off, I don't think so. I like muh white wimminz. I ask them constantly and they usually retreat to an us versus them dichotomy that you're literally projecting.
>Your boot is literally on our face, stomping the life out of us and we're dying Again show me where there are non-whites performing mass genocide on whites. But in the context of Europe I can understand your sentiment, if you're main objection is mass immigration which I'm also against. I think you should close your borders and kick them out. I'm not in favor of that.
>now non-whites win every argument. Yeah if they decry racist or "white supremacist" to the brain dead sheep they do. But to those of us who are bit more nuanced in their thinking knows that's not a valid way to permanently defeat an ideological opponent.