Reminder that if you want a Saint given to you for the next year, just reply to this comment. So far we've had some very eerie connections between the Saint and the one who asked.
Justin Davis
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Elijah Cruz
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Daniel Evans
Bad popes do not mean the Church is bad, user. Men are weak and fallible. They have done awful things and I hope they repented or may they burn for eternity. Surely this is rather testament to the Church? If the Church was made by these such men, surely it should have collapsed over a thousand years ago? The Catholic Church is only standing because it was created by Christ.
Aaron Bailey
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William Morgan
>Roman Church >established by Jesus When will Romans stop lying to God and the world?
Thomas Johnson
must a christian wait until marriage for sex?
Angel Adams
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Adam Rodriguez
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Ayden Rodriguez
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Liam Roberts
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Grayson Carter
>Catholic Church is only standing because it was created by Christ. >Catholic Church™ by Christ. kek
Anthony Sanchez
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Tyler Miller
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Josiah Jones
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Isaiah Garcia
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Eli Flores
It would be an honour to die in the name of my Lord.
Ethan Thomas
>not a single source for any of the assertions except for fucking Gibbon, a completely biased source
>Pope is infallible when he defines a doctrine concerning faith to be held by the whole Church sure
Cameron Jackson
Matthew 7 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
>in b4 Father's will is do works John 6 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Yeah they aren't yet. They're mentioned in Revelation 17
Carter Nelson
>vatican-romanism
Leo Wood
>Revelation 17
Julian Gonzalez
>Citing Ex cathedra, which requires an extremly narrow set of circumstances to be considered infallible, as proof Catholics believe the pope is "God on earth" Like I said, you know nothing about Catholic Dogma. There have been only 7 doctrines declared using papal infallibility, and none of them were by any of the popes you've posted
Jack Murphy
Guy what do any of these verses have to do with proving Catholicism wrong? John 8:24 (You quoted this) > I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.
Wtf does this have to do with anything? Are you that fucking moronic that you think I don't believe Christ is Lord?
Cooper Miller
Thoughts on SSPX?
Austin Miller
so the popes were gods on earth only 7 times in special circumstances?
Bentley Evans
The Pope has never been God on Earth. The Pope has been infallible certain times, but he has not and will never be God.
Grayson Nelson
Holds internally inconsistent views.
Ryan Morgan
It proves salvation to anyone that believes on Jesus which is not what cuckolickism teaches
Josiah Jackson
Also, thoughts on Christian gnosis? Fourth way and stuff like that.
>infallibility means being god on earth Once again, showing how little you know of Catholic teaching. Infallibility is defined as " We teach and define that it is a dogma Divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves and not from the consent of the Church irreformable. So then, should anyone, which God forbid, have the temerity to reject this definition of ours: let him be anathema."
Wyatt Rodriguez
Good thread. Keep it up
William Clark
Care to give me a quick rundown?
Ryder Price
What the fuck has your pastor told you? I literally went on a retreat this weekend where every second of every day we prayed to Jesus to have mercy on us for our sins and help us overcome them.
Daniel Walker
if you think you need to be a good boi then you aren't saved
Landon Thompson
>implying the english speaking people are roman catholics No.
Brody Hill
Are you literally suggesting that I shouldn't be striving to please God with my actions everyday?
Whose the heretic again?
Lincoln Harris
aka God on Earth
Jacob Gutierrez
Jesus: >be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect
user: >if you believe you need to be good then you aren't saved
Jace Kelly
Absolutely none of that says "God on earth"
Brayden Hall
According to Jack and Diane Ruhl of the National Catholic Reporter, who decided to research this particular topic, since 1950, the Vatican has spent $3,994,797,060 to keep the issue of sex scandals hush hush. That number may even be a bit conservative considering the amount of “under the table” dealings have taken place which were uncovered in Spotlight investigations.
Most cases were never reported nor were they taken to court, leaving their reality in the dark.
The figure is based on a three-month investigation of data, which includes a review of over 7,800 articles from LexisNexis Academic and NCR databases and information from Bishop-Accountability.org. Reports from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops were also used.
Sebastian Jenkins
Can you read? I said if you think you need to be a good boi, I didn't say you shouldn't try to be
Saved by faith, rewarded by works.
Sebastian Wood
Example from the last thread They view pope as borderline heretic, sometimes even go beyond that border, declaring him to be non-catholic, but still cling on to the idea that he is pope, head of the church that consists only of catholics. They also view it sometimes prudent to NOT follow what they view as valid papal authority. They can be approached for sacraments, though.
Christopher Powell
>Saved by faith, rewarded by works. Which is not what you said. You said "if you think you need to be a good boi, then you aren't saved"
Cameron Wilson
Scismatics who have no reason to exist now that the FSSP is a thing.
Connor Young
Matthew 18:3 >And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
You have to be good to get into heaven it is written.
Asher Myers
Who do I get? I'm not Catholic, but what the heck.
Jonathan Russell
>12-21-17: Ex-abbot jailed for 18 years for abusing boys at top Catholic school.
>The former Ealing abbot and headmaster, known as Father Laurence, was extradited to face 19 charges of indecent assault and buggery against 10 former pupils.
>He fled to Kosovo with £182,000 from the Vatican bank in a bid to avoid responsibility for the abuse at fee-paying St Benedict’s School in Ealing, west London.
>12-21-17: Catholic Church Bishop Says: ‘Children are asking to be raped’
>A New York Catholic Bishop has caused outrage after claiming that victims of pedophile priests only have themselves to blame because “children are asking to be raped”.
>During his testimony, Cunningham not only said: “the boy (the victim) is culpable” – he also referred to victims as “accomplices”, saying it was “what they wanted” and they were “asking for it”.
The Vatican cult isn't Catholic either, false advertising.
John Rogers
It is somewhat amazing that autistic prots keep coming into these threads as though they think they can change anyone's minds.
Angel Cruz
Its becoming pure like a child read the verses both before and after. Also while the KJV is a decent choice in a bible there are much better alternatives.
Adam Stewart
nigger I didn't even look up the next verse when I made that comment. Did you because it clearly supports what I said. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Julian Edwards
>12-19-17: $5M bail set for priest accused of abusing North Dakota boys
>Prosecutors allege that Sayasaya abused two underage siblings from 1995 to 1998, while he was assigned to the Blessed Sacrament Catholic Church and St. Mary’s Cathedral in the Fargo area.
I did, that's the point. If you stated earlier you didn't have to be a good boy to enter why would you have to humble yourself or make yourself better to enter. If faith alone saves you why would Christ say this or do what he says to do in Matthew 19:16-22.
Wyatt Smith
Can someone give me a valid reason to believe in god?
David Turner
>12-08-17: NY Catholic Church pays $40 million to sex abuse victims
>Just over $40 million in compensation has been paid to 189 people who identified themselves as victims of clergy sex abuse, the Archdiocese of New York said in a report released Thursday.
>The archdiocese noted that the Independent Reconciliation and Compensation Program ended Nov. 30, but some additional claims are still being processed.
You have to humble your self to believe on Christ for your salvation. Being humble would be knowing you deserve hell but accept Jesus' free gift of salvation, being prideful would be thinking you're a good enough boi to get in
Hudson Anderson
You won't roast in hell
Samuel Johnson
Praise Jesus
Gavin Cook
That's not a valid reason for me if I don't believe that hell exists.
Brayden Morgan
Some of the most prideful people I know believe in God however they are still sinful. Just because someone accepts there is a force that is obviously there and stronger than them doesn't mean they're humbled.
Isaac Anderson
lol you are nuts my dude
Bentley Bell
>Bad popes do not mean the Church is bad, user False theology and heretical dogma does mean to church is bad, though.
Xavier Stewart
You can look dope if you become a priest. Think about it if God was real he would let his servants look dope.
Andrew Richardson
>heretical dogma Such as?
Nathan Lewis
>12-15-17: Catholic Church Singled Out In Australian Sex Abuse Report
>The Australian reports: “More than 15,000 people contacted the commission to share their experiences of abuse, more than 8,000 of them spoke personally with the commissioner about the trauma it caused, and approximately 2,500 cases have now been referred to police.”
That stuff is bullshit from the likes of theosophy and gurdjieff. Read Maximos the confessor instead.
Gavin Barnes
How is this a bad thing?
Charles Young
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Alexander Collins
>no citation for the quotes but randomly quotes hmmm
Carson Brooks
I’ve decided on beer. It’s going to be real hard on me since I just flat out enjoy it. I don’t abuse it but I love the tastes and comparing the different styles, I always have one when going out to dinner.
The idolatry thing goes under the first commandment.
"I am the LORD your God: you shall not have strange Gods before me."
Now to get to the thing that irks me most here. There has never been a numbering system, only you protties seem to be imposing specific numbers to the commandments. There are 10 commandments yes, but that does not make each commandment a specific number.
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before me.You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above,or that is in the earth beneath,or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Thats all the first commandment for us. Just because we don't have them enumerated in the same way you do, does not make us lose any of the commandments.
Nolan Evans
>The Vatican submitted to the Moneyval evaluation process after it signed onto the 2009 EU Monetary Convention and in a bid to shed its image as a financially shady tax haven whose bank has long been embroiled in scandal.
>In the prior 2015 evaluation, Moneyval urged Vatican prosecutors to actually bring charges in some of the 25 money-laundering investigations they had opened.
Brandon Wood
Mary brought forth the incarnation of God through her own free will, thus she is just as the mediator of salvation.
Robert Harris
Catholicism has no place in America it is a blasphemous and idolatrous bastardization of Christ's will. You are destined for hell
Elijah Reyes
>What is Maryland You are very ignorant.
Carter Clark
>On June 28 this year, Italian police arrested a silver-haired priest, Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, in Rome. The cleric, nicknamed Monsignor Cinquecento after the €500 bills he habitually carried around with him, was charged with fraud and corruption, together with a former secret service agent and a financial broker. All three were suspected of attempting to smuggle €20m by private plane across the border from Switzerland.
>Prosecutors alleged that the priest, a former banker, was using the Institute for Religious Works – the formal name for the Vatican’s bank – to move money for businessmen based in the Naples region, widely regarded in Italy as a haven of organised crime. Worse still, Scarano (who, together with the other men, has denied any wrongdoing) had until only a month earlier been head of the accounting department at the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See, the treasury of the Vatican.
Parker Nguyen
The Catholic Church is also the most charitable organisation in the world.
