Why is this even allowed?

No one believes you need internet anonymity for political speech. Your using it get your cookies.

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It's a honey pot.
The NSA wrote the software Op.
Figure out if the NSA wrote themselves a back door.
And the security used in the Linux kernel - NSA wrote that too. Big stink because Torvald wasn't allowed to say they had a back door.

>Blabla bla, I don't understand how the NSA actually works.

>No one believes you need internet anonymity for political speech.
You need it in countries under dictatorship. Should be banned elsewhere. If you're not a criminal, you have no reason to worry.

>why is this even allowed
To keep us safe from you

>I disagree, but can't intelligently say way so I'm gonna LARP as intelligent and hope no one calls me on it.
Well, there is that.

Anyone caught using it should be subject to as summary wiener graph.

You are in spook mode, anything you are scared of can be traced back to the most logical cause, in this case the NSA, they don't have to create TOR cause they have backdoors in the motherboards.

not in our country but some people aren't as lucky as we are

>Should be banned elsewhere
Says the guy with the "don't tread on me" flag. Fuck you and your government nanny

>Not compiling your own kernel from source
>Not auditing all your software source code to inspect it for NSAids
>Not using OPENbsd

What is the best alternative to this?
-noob

Its been used by Journos to leak to Wikileaks and post stuff about Syrian civil war atrocities. It has very noble intentions. 99% of people cannot follow consistent opsec and pedo's always eventually get caught because they are reviled by everyone and the State puts more money towards jailing them as opposed to some kid ordering pot online.

The internet and everything it contains is provided by the government and private companies. It's not a human right to use it. Now get off pedo/junkie.

This. It was literally "news" in the mainstream media some while ago. It doesn't matter what OS you have or what you use.

I would love to make the government accountable for all the shit I say online.

Again spook mode, they don't have to watch you all the time if you think they do.

That's false; anyone with a GRsec kernel or OPENbsd was safe via virtue of paranoid security features.

tor was originally invented at universities in France and Germany.. nothing to do with NSA..

though France literally forced the creators to build in back doors for the French secret service as they were unable to go after terrorists using tor..

fuck .onion
i2p is the future

Again, fuck you and your government nannies. Pick another meme flag, may I suggest the donkey, mr big government

If I want to download cp and I don't pay for it, no one is getting hurt.
>b-but, you're telling the producers that there's a demand!
they already know there's a demand, that's why they make it. producers aren't monitoring websites that pirate their shit. It doesn't benefit them at all if they aren't getting paid for it.

>certain combinations of 1s and 0s can be outlawed

He was agreeing with you, spastic

Not technically and I'm to autistic to make the difference.

Downloading it duplicates the content, retard. You give it another avenue for distribution.

You should pray that all those resources the alphabet agencies have at their disposal remain in the hands of these pedo-sympathizing faggots

>thinks his warped morals are at all relevant to the realities of what can be outlawed, which is anything that a government can physically punish people for

Shut the fuck up about things you don't understand, leaf.
"Don't tread on me" was directed at foreign powers. We did more than tread on degenerates within our own society.

You are literally online right now. You can look things up before you post. It was created by the Navy and DARPA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)#History

Yeah keep asking your "higher powers" to ban things you don't like, you fucking cuck

Seriously, you're a disgrace to the flag.
>the federal government owns the postal system so they should have the right to read your mail if they so desire

if you don't like it then don't use the postal system

>If you're not a criminal, you have no reason to worry.
A sheep with a snake flag, how cute.

Not asking anything. Either the elected representatives do their job and enforce our laws or the people will.
In other words, either you're gonna end up being a nigger's wife in prison, or you'll be swinging from a tree.
There isn't an outcome where you're accepted into society.

>certain combinations of carbon atoms can be outlawed

It's not anonymous. Don't fucking use infrastructure created by militaries if you want to be anonymous.

You do realize even the founding fathers thought that mail should have privacy right?
accessible-archives.com/2011/02/the-postal-act-of-1792/

>Personal Privacy – To ensure the sanctity and privacy of the mails, postal officials were forbidden to open any letters in their charge unless they were undeliverable. Finally, Congress assumed responsibility for the creation of postal routes, ensuring that mail routes would help lead expansion and development instead of only serve existing communities.

Why, because I value privacy? GTFO of here leftist faggot. People like you make me sick

You're a fucking disgrace to America
>wah wah wah this protocol may be used for crimes so it should be illegal

Because its not. The fucking feds will hassle anybody who tries to operate an exit node.

wait what??? is tor a honeypot yes or no. you're making me nervous

Code is protected by the 2nd amendment, and for us non americans it is protected under free speech laws.

Fuck off NSA/CIA. You're just butt hurt that your queen lost and despite your propaganda, we all didn't bow down and lick Hillary's pussy. Just kill yourself.

do you have something to hide?

Underrated and reasonably rare

Use privately owned systems. They can't read your messages without a warrant.

Hardware has backdoors (as exemplified by the Spectre/Meltdown scandal) that bypass all software, but Torvalds has nothing to do with this.

Because you're a pedo enabler.

I'm a disgrace to your shitty fantasy of what America is.
It's not about crimes it's about enforcing a morality.

As to the retarded Postal Act argument, yet again it's about foreign powers.
The Founding Fathers were not libertarians regardless how much you want to pretend they were.
They did not believe that people should be allowed to live by their own morals within a society. Everything they said about personal liberties was in the context of a unified society with a shared culture and ethnicity.

Daily stormer

>being against (((privacy))) that is illegal gun and drug trade, terrorism and pedophilia makes you a communist

Kill yourself you liberty-stomping kike, Tor is a tool used for privacy from the government and their brainless enablers, like yourself

>invented civil liberties
>not civil libertarians

The quality of shilling on this board has really gone down the drain in the last couple years.

It's a game of cat and mouse with Tor. The military uses it's tech and they let anyone use it, even for nefarious reasons because if you can't catch pedos or whistleblowers on it (two of the most sought out types of people by govts) then you can intercept their military communications. Basically Tor is a huge experiment by the U.S. military.

>ARE YOU FUCKING GOYS GONNA USE CHROME OR WHAT?!

did you do something wrong desu

Yeah but ever since the cloud storage revolution they haven't needed us to provide them with nodes anymore so they are trying as hard as possible to criminalize using networks like this and put the genie back in the bottle.

Anyone who says that does not understand the extent of modern internet surveillance, by both governments and corporations, nor their eagerness to punish you for wrong-think.

Guatemala dropping some knowledge

You get to have privacy from the government when everyone obeys the law of this land.

So come on, prove to us how much you care about privacy. Advance the cause by deporting yourself to some shithole country with all the liberties in the world because there's not a functioning government there.

>because liberty sounds like libertarian they must mean the same thing!
Try harder.

Tor is maintained by leftist cucks

Congrats fag, most jew post of the week

ha

Good thing for the people of my country and yours busybodies like yourself don't have any say in policy. I'll continue to use Tor, as is my RIGHT, and you can continue to cry about it, you impotent faggot

It was not writtern by the NSA you fucktard. It was written by United States Naval Research Laboratory employees, mathematician Paul Syverson, and computer scientists Michael Michael Reed and David Goldschlag in the mid-90s, with the purpose of protecting U.S. intelligence communications online. That said, It is backdoored like a dirty whore on all fours. The way the Silk Road went down, and the Tor pedo busts around the same time, all proved it to more than penetrable. They were able to track down the Road's server in Iceland, and took it over for months before seizing even it, straight honeypotting bitches. Use with caution, or not at all.

>And the security used in the Linux kernel
You mean SELinux? Pretty sure most people don't even have it enabled. Setup tomoyo it's easier anyway.

>tor internet defense force playing full damage fontrol trying to pull in poor suckers into using their DoD funded "freedom" network that is in reality the most monitored network on the internet.

if someone did nothing wrong, why hide it?

>couldn't muster an argument
>T-thank goodness you guys aren't in charge here!
It's such a worthless and neutered state as it is, do you think I give a shit? You'll be England in 10 years anyway.

Remember when bait was subtle? Kekeridge farms remembers.

Clean water and power are provided by big corps and government, as is phone service, all 3 were deemed human rights and ma bell was even forced to run phone lines nationwide as a result.

The internet has replaced the phone in the same roles, it's a necessity because the ISP lobbyists and propagandists made it one.

If the internet were to essentially stop functioning, that technology from LAN on up to satellite and trans-continental fiber were somehow shot out beyond repair, you honestly believe it wouldn't be catestrophic?

It would be the stuff of fucking apocalypse movies immediately, people would be rioting in the streets worldwide. Internet access is needed to apply for fucking jobs, telcom rely upon it fot their services now, the banking industry would collapse immediately without it, there would be no news reports to explain the situation as nobody could communicate digitally to spread information, hospitald rely on the internet for patient information which is now stored on the cloud and to order medications etc the list goes on.

By 20 20 we should have the BOGnetwork set up

It will be a user server unless your a pedo

Then you will be gassed

>the banking industry
try nearly every single business that purchases things across state or country lines. if you're on an exchange with another business you'll be able to call them, but once it gets to the inter state or country level everything is packaged and sent over the infrastructure that handles all internet traffic.

Someone might elaborate further, but afaik, three-letter agencies log every download of Tor.
Downloading basally gets you on the list. And from there they can operate any backdoor imagineable, it does not even need to be built-in Tor.

There is no private internet that functions for the things the internet is used for. And as for a hypothetical duplicate side by side cloneweb, it then becomes government property automatically.

The government owns the fucking concept, once a private equivelant becomes functional it is no longer private. But muh natural monopoly.

The tor client is basically Firefox, in which the NSA has found at least 1 major vulnerability, but refuses to tell the public
They can use this vulnerability to identify individual Tor users.

So yes, you're not anonymous when using Tor.
Don't do stupid stuff!

>hello fellow libertarians

What if I'm hiding behind a VPN?

>everything that isn't explicitly a human right should be controlled entirely by government and institutions

kys

>Why is this even allowed?

becasue im willing to kill you to stay free

Don't you have a (((google chrome))) update to run on your chromebook? Oh and be sure to "backup" any "private" files you may have on your physical drive to the (((cloud))) like a smart goy. Wouldn't want the "virus scans" to miss a single detail bud.

The absolute state of the goyim...

traffic shape corrilation is a huge vulnerability that no one can fix.
>still using gecko in 2018
damn talk about a mountain of technical debt.

the state of goyims

>call them
Which would no longer be an option. Everything has slowly been moved to a digital equivelant including phone services. It has become as important as anything that was ever deemed a "necessity" in the past: it's just a matter of huge payoffs and sniper lobbyists keeping it from being treated as such

Your machine is ridden with backdoors. Tor just needs to establish a connection with those, doesnt matter if it is via VPN.

>enforcing a morality
fuck off

This kills the goyim

There have been mulitple stories in the last few years about how NSA (or any intelligence service) can extract details of the tor network by controlling enough end nodes.
If you are still using it for illegal shit you are retarded.

quads of truth
thread over

>Why is this even allowed?
To piss off big government

>Goldschlag

I just don’t understand how anyone can safely browse it. One wrong click and you’ve broke the law. I also don’t see the point in it unless you’re a pervert or drug addict.

Libertarians only LARP as patriots

>entirely by government and institutions
You forgot to add "people", since we're the ones that take over when something results in harm to society because it's NOT being controlled by a govt or an institution

Admit you're a degenerate freak who hates pesky conservatives because we stop society from tolerating you.

No you're not.

ok fbi

If you are still using it for doing illegal shit you are retarded.

>Admit you're a degenerate freak who hates pesky conservatives because we stop society from tolerating you.

Freedom of association, faggot. Look it up. You can have your socially conservative enclave in a libertarian society, totally free from paying into socialist programs you disagree with.

I use it to dodge ad trackers.
why should 3rd party companies sell my profile like beanie babies?
plus it's hillarious the whole LOL LE GOBMEN CANO SEE ME USIN DA NET

the markets need to reopen i need my heroin

> the whole LOL LE GOBMEN CANO SEE ME USIN DA NET
LARP

I know my coms must be absolutely haram atm

K

Wasnt the vulnerability wrt tracing back to users some traffic analysis of nodes?

Test

Tor is only really used by low and mid level criminals. The high level ones (like politicians, rich people, etc) do their shit right in the open, even on the clearnet, using "legitimate" businesses with genuine storefronts. They just have their minions hire proxies to do all the dirty work so it's pretty much impossible for them to ever actually get caught. Tor is a tool for these types to keep tabs on anybody deemed a threat to their supreme authority.

There are literal public Google Groups that exist solely for sharing child porn. I'm not kidding in the slightest.

wo spooky gobmen are hiding under my bed