Basically we are a mixture between fiscal conservatives, keynesians, and neoliberals. What we believed
>military must be strong >U.S should overthrow tyrannous regimes abroad for worldwide freedom and to show dictators we don't stand for their treason to liberty >Israel benefits U.S more than U.S benefits Israel >the national debt can go on forever >the debt will pay itself off anyway with time if spending doesn't increase >low taxes on business >trickle down economics >low taxes on people >social security must remain strong and cover those who are unemployed but LOOKING for work >free markets >communism is terrible >sometimes people have to give up some liberty for more safety (TSA, NSA, etc) >drugs are harmful and dangerous and they should be federally banned, this includes marijuana >legal vetted immigration is great and should be encouraged >"establishment" is not a dirty word, in fact the establishment is great >
Thanks for proving this thread will offer nothing of value because you're a pathetic kiddie fucking degenerate.
Julian James
>Israel benefits America
John Wilson
They give America their patents for free. Without Israel our medical technology wouldn't be advanced, the internet wouldn't be as fast, and A.I programming wouldn't exist.
Grayson Taylor
Israel hides the cure for cancer and AIDS. They spy on everyone, blackmail our politicians bring us into wars, genocidde palestinians, hold nuclear blackmail over the worlds head, pretend they are victims, false flag themselves and us, they knocked down the twin towers, they did Vegas and Sandy hook, they killed JFK and so much more.
kys.
Asher Wood
What you are saying is the words of islamic terrorists and arab dictators like Gaddafi. Israel does not hold the cure to cancer or aids, they only spy on who they believe is a threat, they don't blackmail anyone, they don't bring the U.S into wars they REQUEST the U.S voluntarly, they are not genociding palestinians in fact the population is increasing. They didn't do 9/11
And no they never killed JFK that was Lee Harvey Oswald.
Luis Harris
>the national debt can go on forever
>sometimes people have to give up some liberty for more safety (TSA, NSA, etc)
>drugs are harmful and dangerous and they should be federally banned, this includes marijuana
>"establishment" is not a dirty word, in fact the establishment is great
>Putting fiscal conservative and keynesian in the same sentence
Why not just be a run of the mill commie cuck then if you actually believe this shit? You both clearly have a hard on for handouts and government controlling other people's lives with no sense of fiscal responsibility. Neocons are a fucking joke compilation of all the worst features of other parties that make NatSocs look good by comparison.
David Gutierrez
>Why not just be a run of the mill commie cuck then if you actually believe this shit? Because i support liberty and capitalism. I believe sometimes liberty has to be suspended in certain instances for security. For example if the TSA officer wants to touch you to check for a bomb and your autistic ass doesn't like it too bad. If you are browsing embarassing stuff on the internet and don't want a NSA agent seeing what you're doing then too fucking bad. It's for security. But i still believe in free speech, democracy, elections, right to trial, right to life, etc.
>You both clearly have a hard on for handouts I'm actually against handouts, SS should only be given out so people aren't starving on the streets
>governments controlling other peoples lives Only as much as they have to
>no sense of fiscal responsibility By fiscal conservative I mean low taxes. It's not irresponsible to run a debt you know is not a problem, YOU are the irresponsible one by not.
Josiah Smith
What's it like to be reviled by every high-information voter, left or right? Why are you losing so badly now? Do you think our revolutionary ancestors would be proud of your sprawling, unaccountable empire, or don't you care?
Connor Cox
>Because i support liberty and capitalism. *Except for all these areas where I don't
Yeah, exactly like a traditional "nuh uh socialism and communism are two different things" leftist cuck would.
Apparently you don't support the liberty of me to put into my body whatever the fuck I want, be it dicks or drugs. Also go check the 4th amendment some time with the rest of that shit. Because the founding fathers absolutely would have called your ass a statist fuck for implying any of that is liberty.
>I'm actually against handouts *Except the handouts that benefit me
Yeah fuck off with that shit. SS is a fucking ponzi scheme. Might as well support UBI "only so people aren't starving on the streets" if that's your only justification.
>governments controlling other peoples lives Only as much as they have to
Literally what every single authoritarian prick tells themselves to help them sleep at night.
>By fiscal conservative I mean low taxes by running up a massive debt that I publicly state I have zero intention of paying back
Yeah, I'm 100% sure you are the type of person who has 50k in credit card bills, another 100k in loans, a double digit credit rating and just can't figure out why you can't drag your ass out of poverty or why you pay the minimum payment but the amount never goes down.
Money doesn't grow on trees you autistic fuck, debt isn't just some number on a piece of paper, they don't just "send you the bill". You probably are too fucking stupid to even realize you are paying interest on that debt or that the more money the government prints the less each bill is worth.
Zachary Myers
Except we won. All the intelligent people vote for us and we won the last six U.S presidents.
Kevin Richardson
There is a burgeoning dictator in the White House. What say you about that?
Hudson Peterson
>Yeah, exactly like a traditional "nuh uh socialism and communism are two different things" leftist cuck would. That's true though. As much as I am against all forms of centralized planning communism and socialism are different
>Apparently you don't support the liberty of me to put into my body whatever the fuck I want, be it dicks Neocons are for gay marriage now that the Supreme Court ruled it a constitutional right. We aren't evangicals
>Drugs No you shouldn't do that. You are damaging society and your country with it. You are destroying yourself, it's nothing but terrible that drugs are here
>Also go check the 4th amendment some time with the rest of that shit. Because the founding fathers absolutely would have called your ass a statist fuck for implying any of that is liberty. They often searched people, stripped searched people entering the country. Immigrants and people visiting often were searched fully naked during the American civil war. The Founding Fathers wouldn't consider that to be a violation that the TSA officer touches your leg
>Yeah fuck off with that shit. SS is a fucking ponzi scheme. Might as well support UBI "only so people aren't starving on the streets" if that's your only justification. UBI is money given to everyone. I'm against that. Only to those who need it, widows, old people, and the temporarly unemployed
>Literally what every single authoritarian prick tells themselves to help them sleep at night. Most authoritarians are psychopaths and don't need to tell themselves anything.
>Yeah, I'm 100% sure you are the type of person who has 50k in credit card bills, another 100k in loans, a double digit credit rating and just can't figure out why you can't drag your ass out of poverty or why you pay the minimum payment but the amount never goes down. Actually for someone my age my net worth is very high. I'm not in debt and in fact I own quite a bit of bonds mostly corporate but some government.
Jacob Flores
As soon as you come up with a label for your group like "neo-conservative", the left will spam the internet and media with associations to bigotry. This ensures that people steer away from your movement.
Luke Murphy
You're also too stupid to realize the U.S can print the interest into existance without causing inflation thanks to their excellent foreign policy
>drugs are harmful and dangerous and they should be federally banned, this includes marijuana
This includes Alcohol as well I hope. There is little evidence of medical usage. People are just getting high.
James Cook
yeah. He's taking down the zionist occupied governmetn.
James Brooks
I'm 100% for prohibitionist but I know that would never happen in this day and age. But if we're taking ideally yes I think alcohol should be federally criminalized.
Colton Stewart
he's pro israel.
Jonathan Sanders
NeoCons are the enemy of the people.
Parker Gutierrez
For liking the war on drugs, you sound high. Did you miss that the presidency was won on a nationalist, anti-immigration, protectionist ticket? Why did Bush get bullied off the stage? Why wasn't Clinton fifty points ahead? They lost their own rigged game to a carnival barker because neocons (Trotskyists) are falling out of favor with the electorate.
Lucas Brown
Yeah but that means Let the Jews have their own country and stay the fuck out of ours
Nicholas King
>Did you miss that the presidency was won on a nationalist Neocons are nationalist
>anti-immigration Anti-illegal immigrant. I am anti-illegal immigration too. However I see legal immigrants as the engines of economic growth which Trump does as well
>protectionist This is where i disagree with trump
>bush get bullied off the state Trump had better banter
>Clinton fifty points ahead Trump had better campaign
So basically neoconservative foreign policy is similar to how Trotksy wanted to spread communism? WOW big whoop
Jayden Gomez
Show us your flag, kike.
Kayden Turner
Exactly you are all unironic ideological descendents of marxist. Now go away you brand of "consevatism" has destroyed this country.
Jace Gonzalez
Yugoslavia was isolationist, Ron Paul wants isolationism, therefor Ron Paul is a Yugoslav socialist.
t. retard logic
Robert Sanders
How does it feel to know Brazil 2.0 won't be any of the shit you listed here because spics and hapas can't into military and are generally retarded? When the last boomer dies so will your Jewish dream
Noah Ramirez
Mexicans are the greatest soldiers.
Joshua Jones
Do you know neoconservatism was started by a bunch of left-wing Jews who realized the left doesn't give a shit about Israel? So they started conning Christians. If you're a goy and a neocon you're a tool, protecting Israel is the only reason neoconservatism exists. It's why the Iraq War architects were 90% Jews.
Isaac Thompson
No, they're not. The US has lost every war where they featured prominently. They will also lose any technological advance the US still currently holds because their 85 iq can't compete with Chinks or even Slavs and Norks
Owen Ward
When are you guys going to stop sucking Israel and Saudi Arabia's dick? Also, how does it feel to know that you're entire Middle Eastern geopolitcal strategy is falling apart? Iran is expanding it's infulence all across the globe and grows stronger with each day, Iraq is going to be controlled by pro-Iranian shias, Assad remains in power and Syria is now Russian, Lebanon is now pro-Hezbollah, Saudi Arabia is a paper tiger that got destroyed in Yemen, Afghanistan is overrun by Taliban once again, Pakistan is now Chinese and Turkey is controlled by an anti-american dictator that is killing your kurdish allies right now? Sucks to be you guys.
Levi Flores
The U.S loses because they don't have ENOUGH minorities in battle.
Charles Morgan
And you wonder why your voterbase has abandoned you. You're deader than the dems.
Jordan Lopez
Israel is great and Erdgagon LOVES America.
David Mitchell
What exactly are you trying to slide, kike?
Adam Reyes
You can't westernize the middle east. I understand the merger of Sun Belt conservatives with Israel nationalists and that Buckley is your god socially and Friedman your god economically. Also, I can see why you needed the Bush family because Rockefeller Republicans went full globalists and pretty much operate the establishment wings of both major parties.
NEvertheless, I do have a question. Do you think the Episcopalian-Presbyterian elite get along with AIPAC?
Nicholas Bailey
When will NeoCons arrest and imprison John Brennan for his role in facilitating the 9/11 hijackers?
Because if your answer is anything short of "within a month" then you're proof Neoconservativism is a cover for the deep state
John Miller
>Erdgagon LOVES America Yeah, he loves America so much that he threatened to kill US troops in Manbij if they won't leave
Hunter Price
Stop bieng retarded. The Neoconservative founders were all anti Stalin Trotskyist. Neocons are a slap in the face to true conservatism, Old Right, and a blight on this nation.
David Myers
luckily the US is only in decline now. Thousands dying each day of cheap heroin. Country filled with immmigrants poor infrastrucutre third world health facilities literraly finished country, only good thing about it is elon musk, honestly he is you last hope
Jeremiah Howard
We have the largest voter base and will win the next elections as we have won the past
> Do you think the Episcopalian-Presbyterian elite get along with AIPAC? Want to know a big secret. There is no such thing as the elite. It's just people who get into certain positions and then lose those positions. There's no "elite"
Christopher Taylor
>military must be strong armed citizens is a good enough deterrent against invasion. if people could carry guns on planes 911 wouldn't have happened >U.S should overthrow tyrannous regimes abroad for worldwide freedom and to show dictators we don't stand for their treason to liberty nice goal. wrong tool. we should hold our noses, increase trade with the worst ruled countries, enrich the citizens of these countries so they can challenge the political establishment. >Israel benefits U.S more than U.S benefits Israel the "clean break" strategy has backfired. we should have good relations with israel because they are western culture but we shouldn't embolden their shitty foreign policy >the national debt can go on forever see greece. we're bigger but the same principles apply. further credit downgrades in the future raising interest payments, leading to a snowball effect >the debt will pay itself off anyway with time if spending doesn't increase rand paul just tried to get the republican congress not to ramp up spending. did the neocons have his back? >low taxes on business cool. >trickle down economics don't be a cuck who uses the left's terminology. wealth is created through individual productivity. it isn't handed out from above >low taxes on people cool >social security must remain strong and cover those who are unemployed but LOOKING for work just get a god damn job >free markets >communism is terrible >sometimes people have to give up some liberty for more safety (TSA, NSA, etc) end the wars, keep the security theater up for a short time, and this problem ends for good >drugs are harmful and dangerous and they should be federally banned, this includes marijuana creating the black market is what creates thug culture and gang violence. let legit businesses make the money so niggers have to get real jobs >legal vetted immigration is great and should be encouraged gibsmedats >"establishment" is not a dirty word, in fact the establishment is great no
Juan Brown
No, it's proof 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy
yeah sure he did
Stop being stupid. Neocons are opposite of communists
Last time I checked Trump made America great again. And Elon Musk is a liberal faggot who relys on government gibsmedats to keep playing with his toys
Justin Fisher
>communism is terrible
America has all of the planks in the communist manifesto
Aaron Stewart
>armed citizens is a good enough deterrent against invasion. if people could carry guns on planes 911 wouldn't have happened Sorry but that is a saftey risk .Weapons of war do not belong on our streets or planes. People should have guns but not on the streets
>nice goal. wrong tool. we should hold our noses, increase trade with the worst ruled countries, enrich the citizens of these countries so they can challenge the political establishment. When dictatorial countries accquire more resources they don't give it to the people, they expand their military
>the "clean break" strategy has backfired. we should have good relations with israel because they are western culture but we shouldn't embolden their shitty foreign policy I can see that
>see greece. we're bigger but the same principles apply. further credit downgrades in the future raising interest payments, leading to a snowball effect U.S holds the world reserve currency, interest rates will be low forever
>rand paul just tried to get the republican congress not to ramp up spending. did the neocons have his back? Neocons wanted more spending but at some point we have to STOP it. At at least ONE point
>don't be a cuck who uses the left's terminology. wealth is created through individual productivity. it isn't handed out from above I use that term the same way blacks say nigger. It's a left wing term but we can use it for our own adcantage
>just get a job Yeah but what if someone gets fired, loses their home, can't shower so they can't get hired again. They need some help to get another job
>end the wars, keep the security theater up for a short time, and this problem ends for good Ok that may work
>creating the black market is what creates thug culture and gang violence. let legit businesses make the money so niggers have to get real jobs That's how you get Weimar 2.0
>gibsmedats No, i never said give the immigrants anything. Make them work for what they get.
Josiah Wright
Not at all actually.
Levi Young
>win the next elections Heh There is no amount of kids you can harvest to stop what's coming.
Juan Harris
I find you in a strange position cohen. Neocons are utilitarian in their beliefs but you are more philosophical. This will leave you permanently on the outside of an order thats context is already disolved.
Zachary King
You saying the neocons won't include me?
Henry Lopez
Pretty much. I admire your sincerity though.
Camden Roberts
You didn't answer my question.
I'll repeat it: Neocons repeatedly use authoritarian nationalism and the greater good to justify their schemes, which rarely if ever have a net positive result in national security, safety, or the economy.
Ex-CIA head John Brennan knowingly fast tracked the movement of the 9/11 hijackers prior to the attack, and has been involved with torture, conspiracy, etc., in the following years. He is also believed to have converted to Salafism or Wahhabism, known extremist sects of Islam which bleed into terrorism.
He has more blood on his hands and he never gave a damn about the great good while committing atrocities.
If there are neoconservatives left who are truly commited to the ideals of authoritarian nationalism and the greater good, then they by definition would want traitors like McCain and ex CIA John Brennan tried and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
So I ask you again: Do you anticipate the lawful arrest of traitors like ex CIA John Brennan in the next month?
Luis Evans
Please use "AMA" in the OP so it hits my filter, thanks.
