Can someone explain to me how a human being, a fucking kid in high school with no martial arts training, can somehow summon fucking swords out of his ass and beat fucking demigods while at the same time beating assassins with enhanced spells by mythological sorcerers.
Luke Gutierrez
read the VN
Juan Martinez
Because he has a very power magical artifact inside him that changed his ENTIRE being into sword. He -is- sword
Brayden Martinez
>a fucking kid in high school with no martial arts training He got martial arts training and archery.
>can somehow summon fucking swords out of his ass He has something inside him that change his affinity to sword
>beat fucking demigods while at the same time beating assassins with enhanced spells by mythological sorcerers. That's the only legit complaint in your post.
Aiden Smith
this, avalon is literally more powerful than excalibur.
James Mitchell
Did you just imply that martial arts training teaches you how to summon swords out of your ass?
Nathan Roberts
Wow it's almost like he's using magic or something!
William Torres
No, I'm saying he got martial arts training while your post said he didn't. About summoning sword, the anime fails to show his prowess in recreating things in his shed. He just need to see and analyze it to create something. Read the VN. Anime cut out a lot of foreshadowing.
Dominic Collins
Saber literally trained him for a little bit, but yeah it's still bullshit.
Nicholas Turner
Read the fucking VN.
Hudson Martinez
he was only trained in projection by Kitsurugu and got martial arts from Saber. Also kinda sees Archer (Emiya) fight and can sync to him and gains his moves. Nevermind the fact that he has Excalibur's scabbard inside him
Mason Ramirez
Because he's a hero of justice.
Justin Robinson
Series would have been so much better if Shirou was an Archer and supported Saber from the rear but that wouldn't bee manly, so he has to come up close with muh swords.
Josiah Johnson
Because FATE is a shit series.
Carson Rogers
After tricked into reading the VN, my main complain in UBW route is that Shirou was able to use a fucking reality marble without becoming a vegetable for weeks or months. At the first 1/2 of the the VN, every time he traced something or enforcing something, he feel pain like he's gonna die. He also broke dishes and bowls everywhere. But conveniently, he was able to use UBW to kill Gil and be fine.
Another point I want to make is that his magic circuit can't hold all the pragna he needs to use UBW. EVEN IF HE FUCKED RHINO.
Nasu is a hack. This is naruto-tier level of storytelling.
Jackson Green
This desu. Shiro is more or less the embodiment of pure justice. He is the ideal hero.
Nathan Baker
Pic was HF Shirou tho. He just wants to save his girl
Kevin Rodriguez
Nasu's gimmick is having a huge chuuni powerlevel setup and then completely disregard it when it comes to the mc
Bentley Peterson
Well, Shiki's power was broken from the start.
Carson Nelson
>Can someone explain to me how a human being, a fucking kid in high school with no martial arts training, can somehow summon fucking swords out of his ass and beat fucking demigods
A Wizard Did It, idiot.
Levi Foster
trying to apply real world logic into a fantasy world
Adrian Nguyen
>a hentai VN has shit writing
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I don't even mind that Fate is stupid but it didn't even have the nerve to be entertaining or interesting. Everything about it is bland and boring
Angel Butler
He had an incredibly powerful magic artifact inside of him for 10 years
Evan Price
He fucking LOVES swords, user.
Logan Nelson
Like a buttplug?
Ryder Thomas
Yes. A really big buttplug.
Ayden Bailey
Shirou's magic is actually heretical as fuck. He can create something out of nothing, breaking one of the supposed "rules" of magic. His tracing is essentially a degraded form of one of the True Magics. Real projection magic doesn't function like Shirou's tracing at all. Normal projection magic would only copy the form, and would quickly disperse into the air, which is why Projection Magic is also known as Gradation Air and is considered to be a useless magic. The only reason Shirou's projected weapons can't last indefinitely is because he's copying existing weapons and the world recognizes them as phantasms that shouldn't be there. It's the same theory as Reality Marbles, the world senses a contradiction and applies a correcting force. Meanwhile, the teapots and other random crap he projected in his shed never disappear because he wasn't trying to copy anything.
His UBW essentially has an unlimited supply of every material on Earth (he can't trace Excalibur or Ea because they are made from materials from other planes), which he can use with his tracing to make ANYTHING. He makes swords because UBW can record all the information about any sword he sees and automatically create a reproduction that is nearly as strong as the original, all the information he needs to trace a perfect copy is available in UBW as soon as he look at a sword. Archer's memories flowing into him and getting a look at Gil's weapon warehouse ensure he will always have plenty to choose from.
Ryder Butler
He would also spar with Taiga when he was younger, she even mentions it in the show. He was also part of the archery club, which he quit right before the start of the show.
Ian Russell
Would he still have this ability if not for Avalon?
Benjamin Lee
No, Avalon forcefully rewrites his origin into 'Sword' which is what gave birth to UBW.
Daniel Moore
>no martial arts training >literally has a fucking dojo in his home Nevermind the archery club etc.
How braindead do you have to be miss something like that?
Joshua Rivera
>He has something inside him that change his affinity to sword
Explain how he's able to summon bows, arrows, shields, rocket launchers, assault rifles and any gun for that matter.
Jeremiah Bell
Shiro learned martial arts from Saber in a few days and beat his future self with more experience? Nice story writing.
Dominic Brooks
NASU IS A HACK.
Daniel Rogers
>Implying you wouldn't chose the superhero ending.
It must be hard to be swayed from your ideals just because of some dirty female hole.
Jace Ramirez
>beat his future self with more experience Fucking speed reader
Gabriel Hernandez
The dude literally makes shit up as he goes.
Cameron Rogers
>I didn't understand a single bit of the series What part of him getting abilities out from Archer did you miss? Saber's training didn't do a single thing.
Connor Allen
He is literally a sword
Ryder Walker
>there are people on this board that wouldn't choose to be a superhero Disgusting. Hopefully Ufotable will surprise us with the movies and have movie 3 be following the Mind of Steel ending.
Julian Cox
That would be the last kick in the face to the wurmslutfags
Carson Wood
This is why people should read the VN. Shirou's development is a lot slower, you realize how hard he works to get as strong as he is. In the anime it just comes off as plot-armor.
Jeremiah James
I would kill for mind of steel
Charles Allen
can you imagine if people said that to game of thrones viewers? ahh you don't get why arya can create a dick as a nose out of nowhere? oh my, read the book you ignorant pleb get out of here, man
Brody Garcia
Tf are you even talking about? When does he ever project anything besides swords? Rho Aias doesn't count
Daniel Wright
>game of thrones viewers Who the fuck cares
Connor Howard
>secondary asks stupid questions Shocking.
Jaxon Green
>game of thrones
Hudson Perry
Just read the source material and you won't be a filthy secondary asking dumb questions about things explained in said source material.
Wyatt Garcia
>can you imagine if people said that to game of thrones viewers? people do say that and the show is specifically made so even a retard can follow it anyway
Connor Russell
>game of thrones viewers?
Matthew King
Usually the anime is an advertisement for the source material.
Owen Adams
> is the author on crack? No but he is on a drug that is 10 times stronger than marijuana. It's a miracle he isn't dead
Adrian Nguyen
The case if Fate it's pretty different since the complicated and convulted workings of the lore makes the story pretty hard to successfully adapt to anime
That and the fact that the structure works better as a VN
You should understand this, is basic fiction 101
Cameron Morales
Lurk 2 years before posting retard.
Dominic Richardson
Because it's a garbage show with poor writing.
That's it. That's why it's obligatory to read to the VN, because it can't stand by itself. That's literally it. Accept it, already. Everyone else did.
Carson Robinson
we all know the anime is shit you retard
Robert Allen
>expecting Fateshit to not be utter garbage
Brody Nguyen
That's not a good comparison because Game of Thrones doesn't have that problem, and is better than Fateshit
Luis Collins
>Kyuudou >not a martial art >Tiger Dojo school training as a kid >not martial arts
Colton Wilson
Dude plot power lmao
*beats your servant with half-decent karate skills*
Owen Harris
>Can someone explain Read the VN or watch the anime at the very minimum before shitposting about it.
Landon Young
Because he has Avalon inside him that literally made him a sword and gave him retarded healing capabilities.
Also Shirou gets incredibly fucking lucky. If you read the VN, there are like 50 situations where he could have easily gotten himself killed.
Charles Johnson
it's fucking magic dude.
Jack Howard
WAIT
HOL UP
So he can pull off all this shit because his affinity/origin is "Sword". F/Z mentions Kiritsugu's is severing bonds or ties....so what the fuck is this "Origin/Affinity" thing supposed to be or represent? I don't think it was ever explained in the VN.
Tyler Butler
Son where the fuck do you think you are? You fucking dumb cunt, read the vn or stop asking retard questions. Or perhaps do the entire world a favor and drink a mug of lighter fluid.
Xavier Jackson
>read the VN He doesn't have to, it's explained in the anime very early on. OP just lacks reading comprehension.
Parker Gutierrez
He's literally a magical human/sheathe hybrid. You'd know this if you read the VN.
Leo Kelly
>it's about to become a thread about the technicalities of magecraft My favourite.
Sebastian Foster
Why couldn't Archer fully beat Berserk? he used UBW and everything.
Jose Stewart
All these years later, how can people still be this stupid?
Liam Gomez
He didn't want to
William Ward
It's just a metaphysical concept the denotes the core of someone's very existence.
Elijah Peterson
...He doesn't. The only thing he summons are swords.
Tyler Butler
>that scene where shirou traces a large hadron collider to smash gilgameshs atoms
Jaxon Sullivan
>forgetting shields
Chase Jenkins
It's a magic shield though, it isn't a physical object.
Adrian Garcia
grorious katana can cute through everything because it's was folder 1000 times!
Gavin Taylor
still not a sword
Carter King
And he didn't use his ability to summon swords to make it, dumbass
Dylan Peterson
>Bows and arrows He summons a sword that turns into a bow and arrow, actually.
Cameron Sullivan
Well fuck you too Nasu.
Leo Bennett
That's a porn game
Gabriel Russell
That fact rally seems to trigger normalfags for some reason.
Hudson Johnson
A shit porn game at that
Lucas Richardson
Archer sped up the learning process
> "At the first 1/2 of the the VN, every time he traced something or enforcing something, he feel pain like he's gonna die."
because his Circuits were all fucked up, from Kiritsugu's incorrect training regiment, until Archer set it right.
the pains stop after that.
Ryan Davis
>Defensive equipment is also possible, but it requires two to three times as much magical energy.
Camden Thomas
It's not a porn game, it just has porn scenes in it to sell better.
Dylan Gonzalez
Here, we call that an eroge, newfag.
Gabriel Martinez
> arrogant fucking Servant who is a complete pushover when it comes to close combat
Asher Lopez
...
Jason Gutierrez
We got prisma. Sure it's not OG illya but it's got three different Illya clones and one mind of Steel Shiro. Worth it in the long term, maybe.
Dominic Rivera
Because Archer was fighting Berserker 1v1, and Berseker is at his strongest when he's constantly attacking. Only reason Gil won was because he was constantly aiming at Illya, which kept Berserker on the defensive. Gil outright says the Barserker would've stood a chance against him if Berserker disregarded Illya's safety.
Hudson Wood
>Nasu's gimmick is having a huge chuuni powerlevel setup and then completely disregard it when it comes to the mc
That's the epitome of chuuni, though
Jaxson Hill
Almost every Chuuni writer is guilty of this not just Nasu.
Evan Turner
Could Kotomine sheathe his sword in Shirou?
Bentley Jenkins
Tbf Kotomine was a pretty badass hand to hand fighter
Brayden Reyes
it's magic, no need to explain shit
Aiden Turner
demigods are not omnipotent beings.
Nathaniel Davis
>no need to explain shit >not explaining it via extraneous rpg rules and arbitrary conditions It's like you don't understand fate at all