Sakurada/Sagrada Reset

This is what peak performance looks like

It's irritating me that a girl with no ability to sense her own time resets would develop a habit of resetting time at all. She could be as morally upstanding as Jesus or whatever your peak morale performance is. That's completely irrelevant.
She has never succeeded in resetting time, as far as she herself is concerned. From her perspective, her ability doesn't work. Every memory she has of attempting it is a failure.
Before she teamed up with Kei, "resetting" would have been as unnatural to her as attempting to fly.
And yet she keeps doing it, and for some reason she even has a memory of how to do it correctly (which can be stolen).
If you try to view the premise of the story from the perspective of Haruki, it ceases to make sense.

She's gonna buy all the kit-kats, someone stop her.

Think of their abilities as like natural instinct for animals. Also Haruki thinks the events will change if she resets even if she doesn't remember the reset itself.

this is it we have finally reach single digits posters

2 more episodes until Kei gets blown the fuck out

>Also Haruki thinks the events will change if she resets even if she doesn't remember the reset itself.
That doesn't work, because all of her experience with the skill is whenever nothing happened.

I am starting to think everyone in this show gets blown the fuck out

wait so kit-kat lady was fine with the dream world when they only removed the monster? I suppose.

He sure is good at performing.

Since That bureau lady couldn't tell if Soma was lying, does that mean that she is not Soma anymore, and that she didn't hear the message when she was pulled out of the picture?

Yes
She is swampman

>swampman
wasn't she an android?

What did Kei mean when he said Soma died for "THAT?"

no bully lie detector please

Soma is fucking champ
I wanted to do this since she first shown up

What would you do to get her mad?

poke her tiddy probably

I don't understand a single thing that happened this episode

Soma died for Kei? Does that mean he's part of the original's plan? And is she trying to save abilities, or remove them? At this point it seems like most of the characters do hate their abilities.

I am not sure at this point
If she wanted to erase the abilities, all she would need to do was cooperate with Masamune, but she's clearly playing her own game
I think she's trying to make Kei a god in charge of the abilities, but I don't see how that addresses the issue of mortality that created the Bureau in the first place

Hmm, maybe not a god, because like you said, its still a system reliant on one person. She is definitely putting a lot of stock in his plan though. She seems to believe that he's the only one who can achieve the happiest ending. What that means is up in the air though. I can imagine that it will involve a lot of suffering for or leads though. Parallels between them and the original founders are too strong, and look how they ended.

So the whole reason abilities only exist in Sakurada is due to one of the original three ability users who caused everyone outside Sakurada to forget about abilities? And they're doing this because they need a small controlled environment in which to cultivate abilities until they have one that they can use to finally wipe out all abilities? Do I have that right?

That's what I gathered from it. But since characters in this anime don't talk like people, MC's deductions make it seen like he has precognitive powers of his own and subs can be a bit dubious, it's hard to be confident.

Let's say you were susceptible to heart attacks, so you take heart medication. Then, after a while, you have a heart attack, but survive. Do you stop taking the heart medication, thinking that, because it didn't prevent this particular incident, it couldn't ever have prevented a heart attack in the past?

It's hard to know how one's actions cause one to -not- experience something because, as you have put your finger on, that obviously means you didn't experience that in the past. But it's not hard to believe that the reason you don't have certain experiences is that it's the result of the actions you do take.

Time for weekly risotto.

Risetto

Product placement in anime make me laugh, always.

I didnt ask this.

I hope to see more carl's jr

>tfw your ability is to make people laugh
Could be useful in some situation I guess
I love how wildly variant the abilities are, you've got perfect future-sight that borders on omniscience and then you've got "cats"

She could become a manzai comedian

Well, that answered last week soma's message.
It could be used for dumbing down severity of a situation maybe, like when someone got assasinated and people just laughed at it and some crazy application for inducing ptsd by making a guy laugh at his family cruel death and stuff. At worst maybe some natural laugh track "technician".

don't you dare shit talk the cat girl

Is Soma's plan what actual 5D chess looks like?

Why was that necessary at all and how did he suddenly understand everything from it?

Could Welcome Home erase any memory or was it limited to abilities?
If it's the former, how is she related to the original trio? The new "keeper" is the son of the old keeper and old deleter, and the new witch somehow has the same face as the old. But this deleter bitch seems to be completely unrelated.

Someday this guy will actually give a fuck and it'll be amazing.

>was that necessary
Well, to see soma kill herself too for that, there is no other way I guess.

She has full control over all memories, both erasing old ones, and implanting new fake ones
She's probably not related at all, Bureau just keep useful people around, like the locking dude and kitkat nee-san

>take it easy brah, fuckin simple
Oh you.

Am I the only one who is really bothered by the writers' inability to write credible human interactions?

It's not inability, it's completely intentional.

Urase's dad's ability is to erase certain information from the entire world. He uses this ability to erase information about abilities from the world. Urase's mom's ability allows her to specify a place and cause that thing/place not "lose" that thing. She uses her ability on Sakurada and allows the city to not be affected by dad's ability.
their abilities are still in effect because Kagaya has place a lock on them. Urase wants erase abilities to save his parents

What's the point then?

The oracle speaks the truth to those willing to listen.

Ohw ait, right. I keep forgetting that their son is the smug guy, not the big guy.

but nothing feels better than seeing Kei lose for once

Man this is getting complicated

Nice episode, some new information on the urachi guy and family, soma's message. I couldnt find stuff to get confused to, I guess some will return next episode as some "Aha!" moment if I remember enough about this episode. Dream world guys getting "locked" was pretty brutal, well, its the bureau.

keikaku doori
as
FUCK

WITCH

You know, this reminds me.
On episode 1 they said almost all abilities are useless or not relevant enough to even be worth it.
But we've been seeing god tier super powers left and right.

Well it makes sense that the crazy abilities would come to the forefront of the story more often.

kit-kat episode next week

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So is this guy Kei's dad?

I want Ukawa to slide her Kit-Kat into my throat.

But what are the odds of all these extremely powerful ones just happening to be in Sakurada.

no

Well there's still tens of thousands to choose from. Even if only 1% of abilities are powerful that's still plenty.

And even then some are just powerful if you think of the retarded way they are used.
Like the guy locking stuff.

I personally wish for Urachi to succeed in his plans.
It would be interesting to see how Kei and Misora's relationship develops from there.

you will find out at end of this arc

What would Kei even do if abilities all disappear?
How would he indulge his fetish for keikaku?

in the eyes of kei's parents, he doesn't exist

Yeah, urachi is pretty much Kei but with more resources.

Actually, why is Kei trying to oppose Urachi's plan?
Does he even know what he's trying to achieve to begin with?

test

got a banned notice, right?

what are you implying, I just wanted to say test

risetto.

I guess Kei wanna play x-men a bit longer with the abilities in Sakurada.

Why hasn't anyone taken the soma cardboard stand yet.
Also this cafe looks incredibly plain.

>coasters
I know which one I would get

I want her to be happy.

Soma died so that when she is revived, she is not the same Soma who sent those messages to Kei. When they ask her with a lie detector, she says the truth that she hadn't told him anything about those incidents, because it wasn't her who told him about them but rather Soma who had died.

KEIKAKU DOORI

Only suffering for the Witch user, that's her job.

>so you take heart medication.
But that's the complete opposite.
From her perspective, she has never taken the heart medicine. Why should she suddenly start?

But she did so much for her beloved. She even died for his sake. Why can't she get just a little bit of happiness?

To make your simile fit the actual situation it needs a little reworking:
Let's say you are informed you have a heart condition and there may be times where you would want to take some medicine.
So whenever symptoms appear as described, you pull out the medication, but you drop it by accident and it's lost. The symptoms pass and they were probably just anxiety anyway. Later you meet your doctor, who tells you that you only had some placebo pills anyway. Then he gives you another packet of medication.
How often does this need to repeat itself before you stop thinking that the medication (which is (almost guaranteed to not contain any active ingredients) is actually necessary to fix a heart condition that might not even exist?
Placebos only work if you have some measure of trust in them.

All those kitkat, so many lives will be saved

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He is pretty scrawny actually, I'd feel like a girl if I looked like him.

are they all robots?

why did she die?

R-risetto!

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Of course Haruki knows she has reset previously ("taken the heart medication"), because sometimes she learns that she can't reset because she had already done so. Given her original rules, this meant she saw someone crying ("had a heart attack"). Now, again given her original rules, Haruki can now believe one of two things given what she knows: either things do not change when she resets, in which case (as far as she knows) it's no skin off her bones nor anyone else's whether or not she resets; or, while this particular person cried and resetting didn't change that, it could be the case that other people she saw crying pre-reset were saved by other resets she's doing, and she doesn't know for sure only because, having not seen these people cry post-reset, she would have found no reason to reset

In either case, as far as Haruki knows, resetting is a-OK. Either it doesn't change a thing, in which it is mostly indifferent whether or not she resets (although it might make her feel better to reset anyway), or it can save people from crying, in which case she should obviously do it given her rules.

Is this the first time Kei has been shirtless?

>because sometimes she learns that she can't reset
No. She ALWAYS learns that she can't reset.
There is not a single incident of her being able to reset because that is not part of her timeline. That's why from her perspective, the ability is a placebo. Yes, she theoretically knows that it means that she has already reset time. But that's not how humans learn to do things.
Humans learn to do things by doing them. And if you've never reset time in your entire life, then you can't have a habit of resetting time. You may have a habit of unsuccessfully ATTEMPTING to reset time. But given the way our brains work (not reinforcing things that don't work), that's really fucking weird.

risotto

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No, she sometimes learns that she can't reset. In her continuous experience, sure, every time she has tried she realizes that she has reset previously, but (again, given that she knows this about her powers) obviously that means that she has reset successfully before. She also doesn't know for sure whether there were times she reset in which, post-reset, she then did not attempt to reset again to find out that she had already reset successfully because something had changed; that would obviously be outside the realm of experience.

>Haruki thinks in weird ways
Hi, I'm glad you finally caught up to where we were like two months ago. But you seem to not understand that she has an innate understanding of her powers that exists prior to the actual experience of her powers; saying that it's weird doesn't take this into account.

I know I'm late, but holy fuck that coaster of Eri Oka riding that bike like a madwomen (it was the scene were she hit the fuck out of Haruki) made me bust a gut laughing

>No,
>But yes
Thanks, for the roundabout admission.

>obviously that means that she has reset
It does, but that doesn't help her with her problem. It doesn't even give her reason to think that this timeline is better than the previous one. All it means from her perspective is that she's unable to reset time.

>>Haruki thinks in weird ways
No. Haruki thinks in normal ways for most of the time. That's why she can walk, and do many other things. Her brain reinforces behavior that is successful. That's the only way for you to learn things.
It is only in regards of resetting where she doesn't do that.

>she has an innate understanding of her powers
Which is canonically wrong because when her memories were robbed she was no longer capable of using her ability.

It made me smile hearing Haruki say that it can't be helped.

>roundabout admission
>"I can't read"
Try again. Her continuous experience is one thing, what she knows is another. Her experience is that of not currently being able to reset at particular times, therefore she knows she has already reset in the "past".

>from her perspective...she's unable to reset time
No, it means from her perspective, given what she knows about her powers, she's reset successfully before. If she didn't understand that she had powers and was going around saying "resetto" and not seeing anything happen, then obviously it would look like she's unable to reset time; but then she does understand that she has powers and therefore that's 100% irrelevant.

>thinking in a "weird way" regarding your powers which literally turn back the clock means you have to be a blubbering idiot in every other aspect
>you can only learn by experience and not by, say, reasoning
Hmm.

>canonically wrong
I don't see how this makes it wrong. She had an understanding of how her powers worked and then Oka Eri blocked that off.

You object to it being called "innate" because you have decided that, for some reason, Haruki's understanding of her powers had to be originally external to herself i.e. learned. This is despite the fact that you yourself understand that there is no experience that Haruki could possibly have that could teach her that she has powers because the very nature if her power means that, if she uses it successfully, she never has the experience of using it successfully. And you hit this logical contradiction and you think that, rather it being your own problem because you are insisting that knowledge can only ever come from experience despite not putting forward a reasonable epistemology that says so, the problem is with the writing.

Am I correct?

>Her experience is that of not currently being able to reset at particular times,
Those "particular times" being every time she tries to do it, or, for short: every time.
>what she knows is another.
Yes, but what she learns is in contrast to what she learns. It is only by holding on to what she knows despite everything she experiences every time she can know that she theoretically has that ability. She cannot learn that it works because she cannot experience it. That's the entire reason why you are pushing for inherent knowledge. Focus.

>but then she does understand that she has powers and therefore that's 100% irrelevant.
She does understand that she has the power except whenever she wants to use it, and she does understand (as evidenced in the show) there is no reason to assume the new timeline is better, rather than, say, worse, than the original. But either way, neither of those come into play in the current situation. She is unable to solve the problem with reset. Either she was at exactly this point before and resetted at exactly the same point of time or there was something else that happened that may still happen and as a consequence this problem is now in existence. Either way, the reason is psychologically speaking irrelevant. You cannot explore that which is outside of your realm of experience. And so the only thing she can take from the whole thing is that her Reset is useless.

>Hmm.
Not an argument. In fact, it's a lack of argument.

>if she uses it successfully, she never has the experience of using it successfully. And you hit this logical contradiction
No, my main problem with it and this bit are actually two independent items. Even if she knows in theory that her ability works, she still has no successful experience with it and thus should not turn it into a habit.