What's it like for Europeans to watch America descend into fascism?

what's it like for Europeans to watch America descend into fascism?

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*Ascend.
Communism is descending, Fascism is Ascending.

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I wish a nigga would.

>what's it like for Europeans to watch America descend into fascism?
infuriatingly annoying, wish it was my country

Bernie got robbed.

This

Wasn't it Mussolini who was the "fascist" and Hitler the Socialist?

Yeah. Socialism for whites only. It's a lot easier to do without a bunch of sub-humans leeching off welfare.

even funnier that he got robbed by his own party

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Nazis were not socialists you moron. They were fascist. Much more comparable to something like state capitalism.

We must create a new idealogy for the American context, we must not steal National Socialism from the Germans because we are not German but American. We will use state power to ascend to a higher society.

It's perfectly valid to use natsoc ideas regardless of the country, people, history, etc. It just wouldn't be called NSDAP.

Of course, but I think there would be benefits to White Americans by tailoring it to us.

NatSoc isn't explicitly German, dude. They're just the ones who came up with the idea. That's like saying we can't be a republic because the Greeks came up with it.

But the Greek republic is not the same as ours, we made a version for our specific context and wants and needs. That is what I am saying.

isnt that girl a little too young?

Depends who you ask

Pre-Civil War America pretty much followed the tenets of natsoc/fascism (ethnostate, military state, ultranationalist, traditionalist, etc) We had it before, we just need to keep pushing back in that direction. We aren't likely to get a Hitler plus a country destroying crisis overnight that would allow an immediate radical change, so the best we can do is keep pushing to make America was it was originally intended to be.

im a big brother and that pic is breaking my fucking heart. God i wish i could be home and give my little sisters a hug

Nazi literally means "National Socialist"
Racist pinko fags are still pinko fags
sorry bud

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As America goes, so will go Europe. I hope it happens, for their sake as much as anyone.
Hitlerism was definitely on the capitalist side as far as fascism goes, but fascism as a wider movement was fairly socialist. They just rejected Marx and Bolshevism.

>descend

It makes me envious.

That is completely moronic. Assuming that just because "socialist" was part of the party name that they were socialists. Pick up a book once in a while eh?

No it wasn't "fairly socialist" whatever that means. I'm not a fan of watering down what socialism means to include countries like modern day scandinavia.

If these nuggets ever read Mein Kampf they would know Hitler used socialist because it was popular at the time. It was optics to gain broad support.

Nazism isn't fascism. Two similar yet separate political ideas.

Well said user.

It's depressing solely for the reason we're not going there with you.

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Look into Falangism and British fascism. Look into Georges Sorel and other protofascists, many of which came out of Marxism. Fascism was syncretic in nature, many fascists were overtly anticapitalist, and National Socialism is actually an outlier as far as the movement goes (though I don't oppose it and I think it worked well for the German people).

(((Marx))) is not the be-all end-all of socialism. That kike didn't create anything new, and it existed before him.

If we go the right direction, leafs will rise with us. You think we will let a Communist neighboring country suffer next door?

I took it as he's daydreaming about having a happy family

user, I will light the flare that will guide the B1 Lancers in.

Perfectly fine according to the frogs.

It's scary how many Americans in high places act like this is normal or even help this WH with its abuses.

Be scared, Jew.

I believe you mean authoritarian. Fascism was a political ideology separate from Nazism. Both ideologies saw economic archetypes as a means to an end, not the end itself. However both were complete rejections of Marxism which is what most commies think of for Soviet Russia.

From Wikipedia:

To protect the German people and currency from volatile market forces, the Nazis also promised social policies like a national labour service, state-provided health care, guaranteed pensions and an agrarian settlement program.[188] Agrarian policies were particularly important to the Nazis since they corresponded not just to the economy but to their geopolitical conception of Lebensraum as well. For Hitler, the acquisition of land and soil was requisite in moulding the German economy.[189] To tie farmers to their land, selling agricultural land was prohibited.[190] Farm ownership was nominally private, but business monopoly rights were granted to marketing boards to control production and prices with a quota system.[191] The “Hereditary Farm Law of 1933” established a cartel structure under a government body known as the Reichsnährstand (RNST) which determined “everything from what seeds and fertilizers were used to how land was inherited”.[192]

The Nazis sought to gain support of workers by declaring May Day, a day celebrated by organised labour, to be a paid holiday and held celebrations on 1 May 1933 to honour German workers.[193] The Nazis stressed that Germany must honour its workers.[194] The regime believed that the only way to avoid a repeat of the disaster of 1918 was to secure workers' support for the German government.[193] The Nazis wanted all Germans take part in the May Day celebrations in the hope that this would help break down class hostility between workers and burghers.[194] Songs in praise of labour and workers were played by state radio throughout May Day as well as fireworks and an air show in Berlin.[194] Hitler spoke of workers as patriots who had built Germany's industrial strength, had honourably served in the war and claimed that they had been oppressed under economic liberalism.[195] The Berliner Morgenpost, which had been strongly associated with the political left in the past, praised the regime's May Day celebrations.[195]

The Nazis continued social welfare policies initiated by the governments of the Weimar Republic and mobilised volunteers to assist those impoverished, "racially-worthy" Germans through the National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV) chairman Erich Hilgenfeldt organisation.[196] This organisation oversaw charitable activities, and became the largest civic organisation in Nazi Germany.[196] Successful efforts were made to get middle-class women involved in social work assisting large families.[197] The Winter Relief campaigns acted as a ritual to generate public sympathy.[198] Bonfires were made of school children's differently coloured caps as symbolic of the abolition of class differences.[197] Large celebrations and symbolism were used extensively to encourage those engaged in physical labour on behalf of Germany, with leading National Socialists often praising the "honour of labour", which fostered a sense of community (Gemeinschaft) for the German people and promoted solidarity towards the Nazi cause.[199]

I consider National Socialism to be a kind of fascism. Both the Strasserite and the Hitlerite varieties are German strains of fascism, the way Falangism was for the Spaniards and Legionarism was for the Romanians. Capital-F Italian Fascism is another variation on the same theme. The view of economics as a tool rather than a goal is one of the things that I feel characterizes fascism as a wider movement. Fascists aren't bean-counters.

Marxism is communism

Not socialism

This strategy was used much more extensively than you think. The nazis frequently co-opted socialist iconography and aesthetics as well as a handful of moderate leftist policies with the main goal of appeasing Germany’s center-leftists, thereby isolating the far-leftists and damaging their ability to ever gain popular support. As it turns out, appropriating the less radical elements of communism is essentially the ultimate form of anti-communism.

What should Jews be scared off? They received tax cuts for the ultra rich to leave and you're staying with the debt, goy.

Also, I believe that fascism is inherently authoritarian, and that on the edges it's debatable where true fascism and the wider sphere of authoritarianism begins. I tend to draw the line between Franco and Hitler.

Anons don't realize they have things called airplanes and private jets nowadays

Anti capitalism and social programs /= socialism

Yeah I know nazism is exactly fascism. But they still used had a fascist economy. Basically state capitalism with a few unique concepts like pursuing autarky etc.

>The Nazis sought to gain support of workers by declaring May Day, a day celebrated by organised labour, to be a paid holiday and held celebrations on 1 May 1933 to honour German workers.[193] The Nazis stressed that Germany must honour its workers.[194] The regime believed that the only way to avoid a repeat of the disaster of 1918 was to secure workers' support for the German government.[193]
This proves point more than yours.

Ok, you can consider it to be, but it's not. They are similar, but neither is a breed of the other because neither begot the other. Hitler didn't come up with Nazism by taking fascism and changing some things and Mussolini didn't take Nazism and change some things. They are both separate products of the environment consuming Italy and Germany. Two similar yet separate ideals.

*Isn't exactly fascism

They are too busy being transformed into fucking caliphates.

Leafs are not like people. Their ancestors hated freedom and they still bend the knee to the Royal Jewess today.

>descend
you mean ascend. Though nothing of the sort is actually happening

It's beautiful, gives me hope for my country.

Italian fascism is not the same thing as fascism in the broad sense. That's what I'm saying. There isn't descent of one from the other, but they are cousins, and later fascist movements took from both, as well as from other thinkers that predated Mussolini. Fascism is a kind of political ideology that includes National Socialism and Italian Fascism. Palingenetic nationalism, third positionism, and authoritarianism all characterize fascism.

But I suppose it's a semantic point and not a serious issue. Even if National Socialism weren't a kind of fascism, I'd still support it- just as I'd still support Franco over any modern politician.

I'm so jealous. Trudeau is kind of like out Obama, so hopefully we'll get our Trump in a few years.

Really? I only know about Italian fascism. Any books to recommend on the broader style of fascism?

>state capitalism
Ask me how I know you're retarded.

did I miss something? how is america turning fascist?

No idea. It's more complicated than that but state capitalism is a pretty good description. Same as state socialism is a pretty good description of what the soviet union turned into.

Checked

woah can vr do that?

The books of any particular movement that you may be interested in, really. Leftists are honestly kind of right when they say fascism has no theory, it's a very nationalistic movement and so while you can see the commonalities no fascist stepped back and wrote a treatise on what unifies the various movements. It would have happened if it had existed past the war, I think, but the movement was crushed so quickly that it was never done. Protofascist movements like Futurism, natsyn, etc. are less nationally focused and therefore can kind of give a glimpse of what have might of been.

I think the best idea is to promote pro-white policy without explicitly saying so.
>defund planned parenthood in white suburban areas
>tax cuts for rich and middle class
>strict immigration policies
>school vouchers (helps white middle class families make the cutoff for private schools)
>voter ID laws
I'm sure there's other stuff you can do but you have to approach the issues in a non-ideological way. Only look at what the end result will be for white families. Once you get the pop of whites back to 90% you can really push for a NatSoc style government.

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GTFO reddit scum, you have absolutely no idea what real fascism is "ohhhhh noooo he called CNN FAKE NEWS HE'S ATTACKING tHe FoUndAtiOn oF oUr SoCIeTY FASCISSSST"

Go back to plebeddit normie

(((((that's not REAL socialism))))))

He's right yknow.
Marxism stole the term "social" and tied it to a retarded anti-individual international economic system.
NSDAP took it back, where it belongs.
In a National system of Producer oriented capitalism.

>America is *ascending to fascism
What the fuck are you talking about? We elected a civic nationalist who's party is going to lose power in 9 months...

>Nazis were not socialists
wat

It's jewish fascism, so i'm not very comfortable, no.

*whose

you guys had it once and fought against it

You should probably try visiting a european Nation if you think America is ascending into fascism.
No, I take it back. Stay in california

you know nothing.

bigthink.com/paul-ratner/fascism-101-what-it-would-take-for-it-to-come-to-america

They cooped the red flag just to troll communists and mocked conservatives who weren't in on the joke.

youtube.com/watch?v=1FUZFy9Nd9s

Lol. Everyone is coming with us for good or Ill.

Same

And North Korea is a democracy remember?

I would happily form a fascist European confederacy. Just make a supranational army and clearing union and let each individual nation manage their own laws.

tfw I've fantasized laser guiding targets for our liberators

First post is the best post /thread

Not yet but some brother. Soon

B-BUT THERE IZ SOCIALIST IN THE NAYME GUISE HELLO~~?

none of the nazis on here know anything about nazi germany other than propaganda lmoa

youtube.com/watch?v=Igxcxj6wM-k
just replace Nazi and Jap flag with EU and Israeli flag

Yeah tell us about it?

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the minute you go full fascism, just annex us

DPRK means ''Democratic Republic of North Korea''. Do you think North Korea is Democratic?

pretty hard, considering that its not.
larp elsewhere antifa-gget

painful, my grandparents escaped the brutality of fascism.

Making you sub-human abos go to school and wash your asses wasn't fascism.

h-white as snow but the regime didn't seem to think so.

Jealousy considering that the left is responsible for the islamisation of Europe a mountain of corpses and thousands of raped women and children while their gov forces them to pay the stay of these criminals with their taxes.