There is no such thing as Irish nationalism, only irish republicanism, which is inherently far left, ""progressive"", ""anti imperialist"" and marxist. Irish republicans were pro Zionist in the early part of the 20th century, before later forming close links Palestinian groups, ETA, Colombian marxist guerrillas, Red Army Faction, the Red Brigade, ANC, communist Cuba and others, all at the behest of their Comintern masters. Irish republicanism has no place here. All irish republicans are commies and commies should be dropped from a great height
Irish republicans and jew terrorist groups ://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/thebrokenelbow.com/2014/01/03/fascinating-links-between-irgun-and-ira/amp/
it's not rare for far left movements to show nationalistic tilts
Brandon Cox
Unfortunately not. This place is a laughing stock. Supposedly """red pilled""" and yet Irish republicans post on Sup Forums day and night
Landon Wood
I piss on every taig mural I see
Camden Smith
So that makes it okay? I suppose you could also argue that the USSR was nationalistic, they were I suppose to some extent. Should we start waving red flag?
Gavin Thompson
That doesn't change the fact the Irish are marxists and the Ulstermen aren't.
Aiden Taylor
Sadly the average American can't tell the difference between memes and reality. >Poland strong >muh 1/32 Irish heritage >Europe is finished >Jews are not all bad guys at least they kill sandniggers
If you purged the bottom 50% of burgers from this board quality world markedly increase.
Isaac Bennett
This is the truth. It's funny that Americans are staunchly anti red but then openly support the most marxist ideology in Europe
Andrew Hall
Those are just examples of "Notice me Sempai" displayed by the Irish since they're going through their edgy, rebellious stage.
Christian Harris
They ought to stop this foolishness and come back to Britain.
Justin Davis
>edgy, rebellious stage Since 1916? Lel
Gavin Sullivan
I think the IRA and Irish unity today are unquestionably left wing, in fact the entire country is on a leftward trajectory. But I do find it ironic that a Dane, from probably the most left wing country in Europe bar Sweden would raise this issue.
The original IRA which fought and won the war of independence, spawned the nationalist ,moralist Irish state which existed until the 80's. So I think it's more a matter of being anti-establishment.
Furthermore , the IRA co-operated with Germany during WW2 , with German spies being facilitated by them.
Justin King
I actually had in mind USSR as an example of nationalistic far-left state entity. But now all western left movements have matured and they excluded nationalism from their agenda. But there are always exemption like Ireland, but Ireland is a unique historical case. In other parts of the non-western world, like China for example, nationalism and socialism goes together.
Wyatt Davis
>Furthermore , the IRA co-operated with Germany during WW2 , with German spies being facilitated by them.
KEK . I bet a lot of the Lefties don't like to remember that.
Cooper Cooper
I'm 1/2 Irish 1/2 Dane, amerigoblin. When is the new Ethnostate gonna get here so I can git with the culture makin' already?
Hunter Jackson
>a Dane I'm Norwegian >the IRA co-operated with Germany during WW2 One incarnation of the IRA, for around a year. Until the Abwehr tired of them blowing up English civilians instead of armaments factories like they were supposed to
Justin Diaz
>the IRA co-operated with Germany during WW2
Because Germany was fighting Britain. All it shows is the Irish will side with anybody who wants to harm Britain.
Elijah King
>nationalism and socialism goes together Marxian socialism is internationalist
Nicholas Campbell
How about rational socialism? If someone needs help(surgery) they get it. If someone doesn't need help(nigs who can't get jobs cause they always causing crime)they don't get it(or they get a one way ticket to Africa, as to not overcrowd our prisons)
Jackson Cook
We are not debating the definition of socialism here. Are you trying to excuse the far left Marxism of the Irish by arguing the definition of socialism?
Tyler Campbell
Really there is no excuse for a board like/pol/ to tolerate the presence of Irish republicans. But then we let ourselves get swamped by reddit and shareblue so I suppose I'm not surprised
Jack Allen
Checked. I'm suggesting our ethnostate's national policy
Kevin Walker
Nice quads btw
Benjamin Moore
It's bizarre watching these people make excuses for the ideology of the IRA.
Parker Howard
Thanks A discussion for some other day m8
Jordan Murphy
The main IRA called the Provisional IRA or the Provos was not Marxist, there were Marxist members in the movement but they left and formed their own group the "Official" IRA, which fizzled out after a couple of years due to low support. I'm not denying the IRA had collaborated Marxists abroad but they also had ties to Gaddafi and Palestinians, does that mean that the IRA were Muslim? They worked with Nazis as well back in the forties. The truth was that the IRA needed all the help it could get and it didn't particularly care where it came from, whoever was an enemy of the British establishment at that time was a friend to them. The reason why there are so many communist murals is because the real members of the movement were out risking their lives, not painting walls.
Grayson Murphy
I live in Dublin but if I lived in the North I'd have to support the DUP/Loyalist parties Irish "nationalists" are all leftist muh "racism is an English construct" rapeugees welcome faggots
Jose Robinson
Aw
Jacob Nelson
This. Irish nationalists are all pro-refugee types.
>British establishment
Are you pretending the British people don't despise you lot?
Dominic Baker
Czeched. And agreed. The mental gymnastics is sometimes quite impressive
Christian Torres
Whats the difference between IRA and real IRA?
Colton Garcia
bump for Ireland
Lincoln Carter
The IRA are quite marxist and the Real IRA are VERY marxist.
That's Ulstermen for you.
Robert Morgan
The ideology of the IRA was that Britain should cease its occupation of the six counties and that Ireland should unite into a single 32 county Republic, as described in the Proclamation of Irish Republic in 1916.
Leo Sullivan
>The main IRA called the Provisional IRA or the Provos was not Marxist Pic related >the reason why there are so many communist murals is because the real members of the movement were out risking their lives, not painting walls But the gunmen allowed such murals to be painted. They could have told the painters to stop doing ANC/Che Guevara/ETA stuff. They didn't
All irish republicans are communists
Nolan Gray
Forgot pic
Luke Sullivan
BASED Ireland dindu nuffin!
Ryan Mitchell
That's an Ulster protestant mural
Caleb Smith
Irish are the niggers of Europe
Christopher Wright
Americans really are a bit thick
Nathaniel Brooks
Irish like basques are terrorists cucks schizoids who enjoy bombing white children while getting their women fucked by niggers.
Angel Hernandez
Irish aren't nationalists. They are just anti-British. They don't care if every Irishman is raped to death by niggers as long as they aren't British niggers.
Angel Garcia
>a single 32 county Socialist Republic Ftfy Seamus
Ayden Long
Separatist traitors need to be stamped out across Europe.
Matthew Cook
>But I do find it ironic that a Dane
FFS. I stopped reading right there.
Adam Moore
When will we carpet firebomb these traitors to ashes? I don't feel like they should have a place in a white state
Daniel Carter
Duh brits wuz Nazis? Sheeeeeiiiiiit
Ian Reed
BASED unionists!
Evan Thomas
>But I do find it ironic that a Dane
Austin Hill
This obviously.
Grayson Ramirez
A lot of the northern Ireland loyalists are user.
Benjamin Adams
Plenty of irish nationalists on here who are not pro-refugee
>Are you pretending the British people don't despise you lot? Are you pretending brits are people?
Aaron Turner
It's funny you say that because I always noticed disgust in the tone of some of the English when talking to them. They wouldn't even hide it and offend me casually.
But I never actually react because I pity the English to be honest. My sister was a teacher in Ireland. Making ok money. A recruiter from England got onto her. She wasn't really interested but they paid for her flights and accommodation if she attended the interview. She felt pressured to go so she went. She did a half assed interview and was offered the job in a school near Watford a couple of days later for excellent money.
She said the standard in education was terrible. She has pupils counting their fingers to do easy calculations. A lot of pakis don't respect her as she's a woman. If you ever raise your voice at a kid for being a smart ass, you get in trouble. There was case where a male teacher was removed from the building by security for cursing at a student.
So you can act all superior to the Irish all you want, but your country has being going downhill for a long, long time. The quality of people in your country is getting worse and worse.
Nolan Wood
Loyalists remind me more of Scots than modern Scots do.
Evan Ortiz
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Sebastian Jenkins
>Norway
fuck off Vicuck
Alexander Wilson
He is some rotten looking man
Bentley Flores
Wow. A few unionists used to fly israel flags to annoy the Palestinian loving republicans. I totally change my mind about everything
Robert Turner
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Wyatt Lee
Look there was undeniably a Marxist fringe to the movement but the reality is that contrary to what Sinn Fein would like to believe most members of the IRA only cared about ending the Unionist oppression of the Catholics in Northern Ireland (in which case they were successful) and securing a 32 county Republic. The communists were a vocal minority that sadly were tolerated by the rest of them instead of being purged, and this allowed some Marxists to infiltrate the IRA's political wing and subvert the IRA's image into something red instead of green. For a better understanding watch this video m.youtube.com/watch?v=rv2gZpw5iWo
Landon Jones
Like I give a fuck about that traitor
Ethan Morgan
You may not but most of you countrymen love him.
Ian Wright
Gerry is a rat who is despised by real Republicans
Parker Cook
You have no idea what you are talking about
Aiden Martin
I agree, but a lot of your countrymen support commie Corbyn. We all have our problems and fair share of useful idiots.
John Hughes
>Separatist traitors need to be stamped out across Europe.
In Europe Separatists are commies too often because western euros have a weird anti-hierarchy sentiment. Communism in non- western euro countries is mostly about reinforcing submission to a greater power, serfdom, like somewhat trad and nationalist peasants who are seeking a lord, despite what jews tried to do that was the opposite. Instead communism in the west is about breaking bonds with the greater power and breaking into small weak, powerless groups to whom separatists want to totally submit.
Bentley Rogers
Nonsense Typical irish lies. Sinn Fein are the political wing of the Provisional IRA. They are the IRA's mouthpiece. Many Sinn Fein politicians are ex IRA.
Ethan Morgan
>a lot of your countrymen support commie Corbyn
He loves the Irish too.
Michael Hall
The IRA were a unification movement, not a separatist movement.
Juan Torres
The average irish is nigger terrorist.
Landon Phillips
They want to separate Ulster from the United Kingdom
Jaxon Perez
The Irish aren't people.
Chase Morales
He loves lefties. I'm not denying that we have a serious problem in this country, I just hope we find a cure soon.
Connor Bell
And you want to separate Ulster from the rest of Ireland.
Isaiah Walker
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Isaiah Martin
And by killing them we would be cleaning the gene pool from anti- hierarchical antifascist genes. Kill separatist across Europe is a eugenics must to end socialism from our people genetics. Maybe Flemish separatist can avoid it
Jayden Howard
That already happened
Blake Ross
See
Justin Turner
You did that yourselves.
Evan Edwards
>you want to separate Ulster from the rest of Ireland It is separate. Cry harder lefty bitch
John Sanchez
Will you please STFU, Mohammed.
Levi Turner
>They don't care if every Irishman is raped to death by niggers as long as they aren't British niggers Irish are niggers themselves, just that they are big cucks
Ayden Powell
And Catalans are pure Aryan
Luis Hernandez
There are other right wing separatists in Europe
Gabriel Morris
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Jackson Wilson
Monaghan, Donegal and Cavan are in Ulster and the Republic of Ireland.
Benjamin Gray
Like these lads
Levi Nguyen
My father was best friends with a PIRA member and would go to see him in the 80's when he would stay just over the border in a farm house, which had no electricity and only an outdoor toilet.
The problem was the PIRA were just a split from the inactive Officials, who were marxist lenninists and they were the only ones defending nationalist communities after the Officials refused to, as they saw sectarian violence as a tool of the bourgeois state.
This meant the only active group doing anything was the PIRA, because the Official IRA were Marxists and the old nationalist base of the pre-OIRA nationalsits had died off and had no arms.
So if you were a true nationalist in the North you had no choice but to join. It was kinda like how many nationalist patriotic Russians fought in the red army. Not every soldier fighting for the red army believed in the ideology. They simply wanted to defend their peoples from being wiped out and their lands taken and germanised.
The Provo council war full of Marxists, but the rank and file were nationalists. I would never support PIRA or Sinn Fein because of their left wingery, but the cause of a united Ireland seems fair to me. If another nation occupied my country and had settlers there, I would be leaving bombs in their pubs and shooting their families.
Asher Richardson
I have no issue with this. Niggerland for the niggers, Irish for the fenians, Britian for the Anglo master race.
Luis Harris
So the borders of Ulster cannot change over time? Can Germany still be called that, you know, since east Prussia is now Russian and Silesia is now in Poland? Ignorant paddy
Ayden Cook
>I have no issue with this.
You've no problem with abandoning thousands of our people in Ulster?
Jack Ortiz
What u got against dogs? Personally I would trust a dog over a human any day a dog ain't going to steal my wallet a dog ain't going to fuck my girlfriend
Carson Taylor
From 1930 to 1969 the IRA was a traditionalist Catholic movement that forbade any of its members from expressing communist views. After the split happened in 1970 the Provisional IRA denounced the radical socialism of the much smaller "Officials". Provisional IRA leaders like Seán MacStíofán and Ruairí Ó Brádaigh were devoutly religious and anti-Communist. It is pure historical revisionism to suggest that the Republican movement was ever completely dominated by socialists.
Luke Barnes
Yes they were, they were a split from the Officials and all its leadership was marxist and socialists. Most rank and file were not, but the bloody provo charter called for socialist state for gods sake.
Benjamin Ward
Separatism is inherently antifa. All whites need to unite to conquer the world. Even for self-defense, do you think that the huge Chinese problem is going to solve itself?
Austin Price
If they care so much about being british then come to England and scotland, their ancestral homelands.
However most of the prods in the North are chavs. Never seen so many nike Tn's and ar max hoodies in my life.
Jacob Young
Sinn Fein=MI5
Cooper Jackson
They shouldn't have to abandon their own land if they don't want to sorry sweetie.