MGTOW dissected

The mental and emotional flaws and weaknesses that make up the MGTOW man:

>Loneliness
>Misplaced Blame (Leftists vs. All Women)
>Sour Grapes
>Paranoid Conspiracy Theories
>Porn Brainwashing
>Manchild Syndrome
>Internet Addiction
>Depression
>Victim Complex
>Sex Robot Delusions
>Laziness
>Jealousy of Better Men
>Fear of Rejection
>Poor Physical Fitness
>Obsession with Acronyms (OWA)
>Personal Insecurity
>Fear of Intimacy
>Plagiarized Feminism
>Emotional Weakness
>Artifical Womb Delusions

MGTOW is a trap for lonely bitter losers (much like feminism for women). Don't fall into it; misery loves company, don't give it to them. Better yourself and move on.

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>Comparing MGTOW to feminism
Please stahp. Most MGTOW men are everything you listed (yes I have all of those characteristics) however, we just stay inside and live with parents bothering absolutely no one. Whenever I do make human contact with the opposite gender I do not sperg out like SJW, I just have normal conversation.

Please do not compare the two

Then you are better than 90% of MGTOW on the internet. They tend to be just as annoying as feminists screeching about gynocentrism.
Just don't make your lifestyle annoying as hell and people won't mind

>lifestyle
rotting can hardly be called a "lifestyle"

you've admitted you have all those negative characteristics - don't you want to improve?
life is short

>>Internet Addiction
>>Depression
I only have these two characteristics. But I live alone, I have a good job with a good salary and contract prostitutes whenever I feel like it. This one from the photo was the last one that came into my home two weeks ago.

>reverse image search
nice try

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You are confusing MTGOW with NEET.
"Men Going Their Own Way" with "Not in Education, Employment, or Training"

MGTOW is redpilled and anti-jewish

They both are the same because they both think men and women are equal
Blaming women rather than their fathers is blue pilled

I actually came into this girl's mouth. She's 20, I'm 35.

Mgtows get the bullet too

Keep barking from a safe distance cause you are not actually dealing with your anti-mgtow propaganda descriptions

If marriage is so good, why do you need to shill for it?

But I believe that married men with children are happier than I am. They have some reason to live, to improve themselves and to improve the world.

>MGTOW is a trap for lonely bitter losers (much like feminism for women). Don't fall into it; misery loves company, don't give it to them. Better yourself and move on.
Sure thing, cunt

Watch this,educate yourself before posting

That's their reason to live user, you can find many other reasons to live.

I agree with OP

if leftism is so good, why do you need to shill for it by attacking harmony between white men and white women (who are poised to overthrow leftism in the near future)?

the confident nationalist TradWife claims the fragile and injured MGTOW

OH NO LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING!! REEEEEEE!!!

MGTOWs fear the unknown: romantic happiness

here's what science says:

>sciencealert.com/here-s-why-it-s-better-to-be-single-according-to-science

>"The beliefs that single people are miserable, lonely … and want nothing more than to become un-single are just myths," DePaulo said.

Seven years ago I fucked a girl, she told me she had a boyfriend. Three months later I saw she at the airport with her husband and a two year old on his lap. That was the ultimate redpill about women.

So if I'm a frustrated autistic incel, isn't everyone better off with me being single?

Nice strawman
And I don't think I even need to shill for it consideing more than half the population already are lefties.

Romantic happiness only lasts between six months or three years. Then comes the rest of your life without the freedom to go to the corner without giving explanations, without money and bound to responsibilities. I'm planning a four-month Europe trip. It would never be possible if I had to take a wife and two children together.

MGTOW is nothing you described, maybe some. True MGTOW focus on what happened in their mairrage and how they were screwed in the divorce. If anything I watched my father love and financially care for my mother; An Irish slut who in turn cheated on him for 13 years. When it came time to move so my father could provide for my siblings, my mother’s selfishness came to play. We moved, Ot only lasted two years. My mother divorced my father after 13 years of physically and financially abusing him and ran off to marry her fantasy affair who rejected her then. She continues to now cheat on her boyfriend with a disgraced druggie
lawyer. I have barely any Love left for my mother and wish to avoid vet having to care for such a degenerate. I wish only to focus on my future not put it into jeopardy by being screwed by the same situation.

>The mental and emotional flaws and weaknesses that make up the MGTOW man:

As evidenced by?

Reminder to everyone that acceptance of comfortable lies is fundamentally blue pilled thinking. If someone is claiming something, ask for the evidence.

incels sent their own way.

But being a MTGOW was not a choice at first. The last time I fell in love was fifteen years ago. Nowadays I am grateful for not being caught in this trap. I love freedom, sleeping alone and being alone most of the time.

t.

I kek'd

>strawman
KEK
>more than half the population already are lefties
KEKEKEKEKK

>this historical illiterate does not realize that leftism rose to prominence precisely because of massive shilling for half a century

you've been psy oped

western women are too slutty. REJECT THE SLUTS

Hanging around women makes me wish for a nuclear winter

>no matter what wicked, twisted, perverted and degenerate thing women do, it's always men's fault

Kill yourself

u mean that hispanics & blacks r mostly leftist; whites r mostly centrist-constitutional-independents forced with 2 incredibly shit 'options' & have been aware of that 4 generations

Yes you are right, better sign an agreement which lets a stupid whore who didnt work her whole life get 50% of your hard earned shit.
>honey change the diapers, chads baby shat itself again!

nty faggot
The only reasonable time to have children is when you have your dream house, dream car and you've done everything you've ever wanted ~ around 40 years old.

Basically this.

They're such pitiful, insecure jealous men who nobody cares about, so much that you've created a thread solely to talk about them because you're asshurt your shitty generals get criticism.

Go be a fag somewhere else, reddit's more your style.

MTGOW is that guy who crosses you on the street when you're with your wife and then he remembers that occasion, maybe years ago, when he cum in the face of your beloved.

>As evidenced by?
this thread is full of asspained examples

here is one for instance:
and another:
and another:
and a MGTOW admitting to all of it:
>Most MGTOW men are everything you listed (yes I have all of those characteristics)

Sick post, virgin internet white knight.

>U disagree w/ me so ur lefty
Textbook strawman.
>etc.
So you admit I don't need to shillfor the left.

nice strawman

the left is dying and you're scared which is why you're still ITT

stay here, I know you will

pic source?

>Replies to barely ass-pained posts
Why are you even here? You know people don't like your generals, and you know it's basically just you and that christian australian who keeps them alive, beyond people shitting on your retarded theories and your shouting that everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist

You dared to leave the plantation. You're really, really bad goy and must be bashed relentlessly.

>Continue strawmanning
I'm not lefty, I don't care if the left dies.
More interesting is your idea that disliking current marriage is left.
And believing that marriage is worthwhile in the current year and everyone who thinks different is a shill is ignoring the problem, which allows the problem to continue growing.

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still strawmanning keep it up brainlet

Yeah, yeah. Everyone who disagrees with you is a jew. Congratioulations, you've accomplished the feat of being just as mentally retarded and ignorant as the people you're trying to lump other people in with.

Ah I see, it's bait. Ok.

Anecdotal. And given you're using example after you posted it means you're almost certainly post hoc rationalizing.

You've got a sample size of 4, and 2 of those don't openly admit any of those traits, so you have no idea in the broader MGTOW community at what rate these traits occur, and you don't have any evidence how frequently these traits occur outside of MGTOW and what the delta is, or have any error bars.

You're appealing to emotion which is what blue pill people do.

What you see in MGTOW discussion is well source statistics about divorce rates, alimony rates, child custody rates, male suicide rates. All backed by reputable sources and cross checked.

No anti-MGTOW thread ever posted has actually posted evidence about any of the negative claims about MGTOW, in fact none of them even inquire honestly about what MGTOW think or believe, it's just blue pilled shilling based on fee fee's. I challenge you to find a thread that contains anything close to reliable evidence or post some of your own.

I fucked committed womans twice and only knew that later. The first one was married, had a child and I just learned about her husband after fucked her three times. The second was the girlfriend of a guy who worked in the same place as me, and then I had to work in the same room as him. The two will never know the truth.

>don't you want to improve?
Nobody owes you shit, princess. I am sure that if he had real reason to change his way of life in his sight, he would have did so long ago.
Are you the same retard leaf who keeps spamming this shit here non-stop last few days? I probably explained you at least two times that there are currently severe surplus of men in society, and these surplus men just checking out of system in quiet and non-violent way is a best way out of this unnatural situation for everybody.

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That's mostly because the majority of this trad-wife/anti-mgtow shit is pretty much on level with the average criticism the group would usually face elsewhere. It's pretty much bare mininum social shaming and no actual constructive criticism because it's kind of difficult to oppose a group who's advocating for fairness in court systems and some actual insurance to starting a family/forming a relationship.

It's likely the canadian/australian combo of /twg/ posters are shitposters getting off on meager (yous)

i honestly dont believe the Demonrats will survive being a primary party in the US after Trump; they have lost literally, everything, except 4 the shadows they continue 2 hide in -- ironically the ppl against privacy r those that want(((need))) it most

Nobody cares about mgtow stop talking about them you fucking leaf

>Blaming women rather than their fathers is blue pilled
women initiate most 'irreconcilable differences' divorces because they can get a new dick and steal the husbands resources, enforced by the police.

Its easy to be MGTOW when women never wanted you in the first place. The only real MGTOW I've ever heard of is leonardo dicaprio. He could get any woman he wanted, these girls all want to marry him. But for his entire life he said no thanks, did what he wanted, worked on the movies he wanted to do and basically just did his own thing. Still not married at 40+ years old. That's the real MGTOW. You regular guys don't even have options.

You're right it is social shaming. That's kind of bottom of the barrel techniques for attempting to get other people to behave in ways which they would not otherwise act.

When something is a bad deal for someone, such as the risk of modern marriage, you have to put artificial pressure into the mix in order to sell it. Good deals sell themselves.

The really smack-yourself-on-the-forehead type stupidity here is that MGTOW are defined explicitly as men who reject social expectations of them and instead of going societies way, they go their own way. That means understanding the social shaming pressures of society and ignoring them. Conditioning yourself to respond to evidence. Generally what we consider being red pilled.

So the idea that shaming would somehow work on MGTOW is sort of stupid, it's kinda like expecting to pour gas on a fire to put it out. When people try and shame MGTOW for opting out all they're doing is strongly reconfirming that marriage and fatherhood in the current state of the west is not something appealing in and of itself, it's something that needs to be sold through some aggressive tactic.

>Its easy to be MGTOW when women never wanted you in the first place.
You know that men are expected o put in a ridiculous amount of tedious work to be wanted.
It's a very big and real problem for roasties that men aren't putting that work out.

That's true. I also have no scientific evidence, but my personal experiences and the stories I hear are mostly in favor of MTGOW. I have several MTGOW friends, most of them are CHADs who have already fucked so many married women! I do not want to be the beta male that will raise their children. Here in Brazil a man took a DNA test and found that his ten-year-old daughter for whom he was paying alimony was not his. Then he went to court to stop paying alimony. The judge (woman) denied the request and said that for the child's sake and for the fact that she had him as the father, that the man should continue to pay the pension. It is like being a victim of fraud and then being condemned to support the fraudster.

you know it's true

Mate, I've said this plenty of times to other people:

Modern progressives, liberals and the lot have little to no understanding of the human condition, they're almost always thinking through a lense of ideology and socialization and instantenously have no ability to recognize that the stigmization they're trying to apply on right-wingers and anyone who isn't as left as they'd want them to be, isn't going to work.

Shame doesn't work, especially in a society like our own. Traditional mannerisms and normal behaviour is becoming "Shameful" under the current dogma, and there's obviously going to be a revolt against that. Not only that, but the left does not know how to understand it's enemies, instead it'll use the same methods it uses against it's own members to keep them in line, and it'll continously try to do.

It's like what gays are to christians, every time a christian gets angry at a gay, a gay is gunna hype up their gayness, much like every time a libbie gets angry at someone who's minorly different to them in political views is likely to become even more disenfranchised and pushed away from leftist ideology.

That's why gamergag, trump and a lot of other political successes for the right have happened, because the left is too fucking stupid and narcissistic to actually realize that it could benefit a lot more from being inclusive rather then have a strict dogma.

Exactly and soon they will start killing those who rely on logical fallacies.

OP is a very badly drawn meme, like from a subhuman commie organization. Or a monkeybrained cunt. Or both.

>contract prostitutes
Any normal person would be ashamed of such behavior

this
>muh shaming is always bad
retarded MGTOW logic, lots of social shaming is a normal healthy part of society

if someone shames you for being a fat digusting slob, does that automatically mean that being a fat digusting slob is awesome and holy and that person is just part of a grand conspiracy to "keep you down"?

It just seems like a cop out from low status men that can't get a woman. Its like when ugly feminists say they don't need a man, the truth is they don't have the looks to even get a man in the first place. Its just a coping mechanism honestly. If you're not an attractive tall guy, you need a lot of money and status to make up for it and most of you guys just don't have that.

My wife and I went on a 2 month trip through southeast asia. We've been married for 4 years and I still love her as much as the day I met her. Just because you've had a shit experience doesn't mean you represent the reality. Reality is is that yes, women do live up to their stereotypes, but instead of being the better person and learning to deal with them while retaining your dignity and respect, you go online and brag about how you're better off without them.

I hope you wake up one day. God bless.

samefagging?

REMINDER

This.
Just leave me be and don't fuck with me or else I'll make it my sole purpose to hurt you and your kind in unimaginable ways.

Can someone explain to me what MGTOW is? Are they just men who don't want to marry women?
I could understand not being attracted towards the average female these days & reserving yourself for someone with high standards, but from what I've seen MGTOW seems like it's controlled by opposition, in an attempt to decline the white birth rate.

I met a woman who received alimony from her ex-husband to look after her two daughters. She spent most of the money on shoes, clothes and going to nightclubs. She put her daughters in low-quality public schools. Imagine yourself in the father's place, seeing your daughters having a quality of life below what they could because their mother prefers to spend your money to hunt dicks, setting the example for your daughters.

Wouldn't that basically imply women are shallow pieces of shit?

REMINDER: posting about traditional women on other parts of the internet does not break any Sup Forums rules

not sure what brainlets you're trying to convince with your post

exactly
see in the OP:
>Sour Grapes
big part of MGTOW for a lot of guys

>Calling anyone else a shill when you're literally spamming two sites with the same copypasta

Seriously nigger?

>implying incels sent their own way cum on anything other than tissue

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Yes, but if we're being honest so are men. We want hot thin young girls, we're shallow as fuck.

t. muh tradwaifus, i swear dey ain't protend

>Implying of implications
Ya'll know how many goddamn'd chubby/thick fetishists there are? I knowa a lotta men who'd date a girl who's got a personality worth a shit and it's a lot more then guys who are into sticc

It's interesting because if you look at the closest thing we do have to evidence, say for example the many "intro" style posts to MGTOW forums and informal polls done in MGTOW forums what you find is MGTOW are a broad category of men, they differ in many ways, some are essentially PUAs, some are true incels and admit it, some are currently married men who want to leave, some are post divorce wrecks.

But you're right, and it's worse in other places. The alimony/child support in Canada is fixed at the rate you were earning during the split, so if you're wealthy and say sell off lots of assets the year you split and they value your child support in 10's of thousands a month, they'll keep it fixed there even if you can't sustain that.

In France paternity tests are ILLEGAL without the wifes consent, if you're ordered by a court to pay child support and you suspect the child isn't yours, and you want to prove it, you can't or you go to jail.

That's how MENTAL things have become. And we're just getting started, if you look at the legislation they're pushing through house of commons in the UK there's alimony without marriage coming, so yea...this is no joke.

>Modern progressives, liberals and the lot have little to no understanding of the human condition

And how are the people on this board and other right wingers any different, being so quick to demonize anybody not in their social group?

>they're almost always thinking through a lense of ideology and socialization

Who isn't? The right is just as guilty. look at how Arizona citizens defended and rationalized Roy Moore's sexual misconduct.

>the left is too fucking stupid and narcissistic to actually realize that it could benefit a lot more from being inclusive rather then have a strict dogma.

And how is the right any different? They have their own dogmas which they demand people comport themselves to, many of which are a closed community that shun contrary ideas.

see
>Paranoid Conspiracy Theories
go outside and you might see other human beings
you are simply projecting your misery and failure onto others, while doing this you are incapable of seeing the world accurately, you are blinded by your own misery

Shhhhhhhh

>MGTOW is a trap for lonely bitter losers (much like feminism for women). Don't fall into it; misery loves company, don't give it to them. Better yourself and move on.

t.roastbeef

are you seriously denying womens nature?

here some facts for white knights.
1. women cant love like men do. they dont release love hormones when kissing men unlike men.
2. they are by nature treacherous and hypergamous.
3. they view males as tools, which is why they complain about objectification. its projection on their parts
4. its in the females best interest to manipulate you, so you give her more ressources.
5. women have a sisterhood. they will defend each others vile behaviour (beeing slutty)
6. single mothers raise their sons to be pussies, for 4 and 5.
7. women push for abortion laws, banishing of fault divorces, banning of paternity tests.
8. their reproductive success relies on deception. (fucking the alpha male and then passing the baby as yours)

all the arguments against mgtow are just shaming and ridicoule. why dont you make good arguments that would push men to waste their time with women?

>techniques for attempting to get other people to behave in ways which they would not otherwise act
Allow me to explain one thing. They say that their goal is to improve birthrate. I refuse to believe that they are that dumb, because you need to be dumb to not understand that birthrate is always limited to the number of women, not of men, and thus you dont waste efforts on men if you're about birthrate. They lie in your face.
Thing is, only reproductively successful man has real motivation to contribute into society. Right now there's only so much females available who can make man properly reproductively successful, significant portion of people who read this will never encounter one just by law of statistics. Such men have no motivation to contribute.
But right now """(((western society)))""" is in serious shit, and needs every contribution to prolong this existence. By laws of nature and logic it deserves to go down in flames to pay for not managing its resources(women being most important of these) correctly, but those of its members who have something to lose now look at those who have nothing to lose and leave, and are INFURIATED.
>how dares this faggot go MGTOW and not care for fate of MY offspring! He has to contribute for us, fight for us and die for us! I know exactly that he most likely wont be able to have offspring of his own due to severe shortage of marriageable females, but his inaction must not be tolerated, he has to return to plantation and be ready to become cannon fodder if necessary!
This is what everyone who bashes you for you outlook really wants for you - to be sort of lower caste eunuch provider for his offspring. They dont give a fuck about what you achieve for yourself, they just want you to spend your life for their sake. They have no ways to force you though, only laughable attempts of social shaming (to which any man with 100+ IQ supposed to be immune). When you see somebody trying to pull that on you, spit him in a face.

She's probably still young and beautiful. Wait a few more years. Look other marriages around you.

not only in France, in Germany aswell

Beyond jokes tho, you'd have a point if it weren't for OP and his australian counterpart literally shilling a point that men "Adore women" and women "Admire men" and some bullshit. He implies that men would love a woman with flaws and that women only appreciate men worth following. If you're tugging the same line, then it's a bit silly to go around like that.

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Yes, the right's equally as bad when it comes to demonization. However, more then often I see a lot more right-wing types going about trying to educate and understand others, as much as they might shit on and banter, you'll find the meme that nazis push their infographics and links while lefties sit around and expect you to know what they think is true to life.

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I think I might had been a bit to broad, and a little over-estimating your capability to not try to pull this out of proportion. Intellectual superiority and narcissism is rife inside leftist communites, and reddit and a lot of other sites a like will outright ban, censor and mute anyone who opposes them, and they're likely to see ANYONE as their enemy, I'm not just talking about mister spencer, I'm talking about the average person who might disagree with a minor portion of their talking points. They'll outright exclude them.

On the flip side, you've got Sup Forums's Sup Forums and a fuck ton of youtubers and other communities associated to the right-wing who have completely open doors to discussion and debate, and they're likely to want to talk to who're their up against while the left will likely assume what their opponent will say, 1719L or whatever they're called made a great video on this about Jordan Peterson's interactions with that Emma chick.

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You'd likely fine that while the conservative wings are exclusionary, they're not dumb enough to completely give up their tennants because an opposing party might agree with them on such things, like freedom of speech and individual authority over one's self.

>And how are the people on this board and other right wingers any different, being so quick to demonize anybody not in their social group?

oh look its another fucktard who thinks Sup Forums is one group/club who all think the same

get fucking rekt you nasty cunt

Im part of women going their own way