Ask me anything
(Ulama means a Islamic Scholar)
Ama Muslim studying for Ulama
Ask me anything
mashallah, Sup Forums is an islamic board
What does Sharia law mean to you?
why you no explode like boom
Did Mohammed fuck a goat or a 6 year old child
Why and how the hell are you in Belgium?
when will you guys all go back to your own countries so you can have your paradise and allow is to habe our own as well?
Considering the numbers of the Kuffar are in billion how are we to efficiently convert or kill them?
Just killing a million would take a year.
A law system that is more Strict then the Western Justice system, Personally i like it but being realistic it is impossible to make it work with the current state of how people are
Depends on how you define as paradise, memebrain.
My grandparents Migrated here from Azerbaijan because belguim was asking foreigners to come work in their Mines, this was during the 1950s to 1960s
why do you talk like Islam is a race? it is not it is a belief, I think you mean The blacks and middle easterners?
no man should be killed for their disbelief, every man woman and child should decide for themselves what they want to believe in
Go back to the shit hole you came from.
Indians were better than you.
how does it make you feel?
Why do you worship a pedophile?
How true is this? 1/2
Because it is a based practice.
yet you hide under a meme flag ;)
i've seen these things before and all ican say is, that Islam exsists now around 1400 years and in only 30 years since the Mujahadeen got in power everyone started to hate Islam because all they did was kill westerners
but in those years from the Prophets (SAW) to let say the 1960s Islam has been very neutral
troughout those years,
The imbreeding i agree on it should stop as soon as possible, but i doubt you can blame Islam for it i think its more of a race thing
Limburg or Walloonia?
Wow, what an incredible intellect this "Islamic scholar" possesses.
Most people in those times Practiced Child marriage, Christians, jews. Pagans it doesn't matter all of them have done it, it just happens to be our Prophet (SAW) married Aisha, does this mean in the Quran it says to go out and marry Children? no.
khojaly best die of my life
Muzzies murdering from moehommad (the pedophile homosexual) to today is peaceful? No wonder you are hated.
if you are here to trash talk then please leave this is a asking Thread
Why don't you fuck off and die?
Ah seems you probably live quite close to me, Im from Genk.
I knew we imported Turks/ Morrocons but Azeris seem really rare to me.
How many do you think there are?
Muslims in a nutshell
Idiotic and barbaric talk yet you are the same people that call out blacks and middle easterners for being mindless brutes
could you please talk in proper english? i genuinely dont understand you
if you tell your jewish funded leaders to stop attacking 3rd world countries witch afterwards make millions of imigrants ready to come to your country
yes we are a minority, but we are turks so there is no rivalry between us and turks from turkey we always get along
even a child of 5 would know that isis targets everyone their jewish boss tells them to how can you even concider them muslims?
It's bullshit. There's a lot to refute and I don't have the time, but one of his first claims is that the Quran had different versions. Yes, but not in terms of writing. It had different versions of pronounciation.
This other arguments are copy pasted from the typical anti Muslim sites written by Evangelical apologists. The Quran also doesn't state the Trinity is made of up of Mary.
And IslamQA is a salfist site. It's not the standard. He also excuses persecution as a result of preaching. "Annoying" people is totally a reason to kill and maim others, especially when the preaching wasn't done constantly. Meccans made money of their pagan practices and so they didn't want another religion. And they also made the same argument Pagans made towards Christians: "not converting outside of the religion of my forefathers". The expulsion of Muslims from Medina is the fist act of violence, not the subsequent stopping of Meccan caravans. And the Jews in Medina were not all killed. It was one specific tribe among many who faced punishment as a result of breaking a treaty.
He also claims Muslims won because of superior numbers but that's idiotic considering Arabians come from a desert. They couldn't possibly outnumber the Romans and Sassanians. Deserts can't hold big populations, that's impossible.
The posts are full of twisting of some facts, exaggerations and adding lies. That guy also doesn't admit that the Roman's ally (the Ghassanids) executed a messenger which started the conflict between the Muslim Arabs and the allies of the Roman which tend accumulated into a bigger conflict. He also doesn't realize that Sassanian Persia had territory in the Arabian peninsula. It's absolutely retarded to suggest that empires like the Romans were somehow innocents who didnt du nuffin to deserve getting conquered.
His claims about the savants like Avicenna not being Muslims is idiotic because those thinkers argue for Islam in many of their writings
Kkk ans White power are afraid by the genious of arabica science
how tight is goat ass?
>Ask me anything
Name one accomplishment in the last 200 years.....
wtf are you trying to say you fucking algerian rat ?
Do you also read up on general philosophy? Or is it just Islamic scripture? Not even for your education, spare time counts too
For example I read Jungs man and his symbols and it tries to explain the unconcious and religions effects on it and as a Christian Ive become more pious for it
It shines a whole new light of the purpose of religion without actually refuting any existing theology from any religion
what do you think about moderate muslims like pic related hot arab model
Why don't you elect to live in Islamic society? Why do you espouse the superiority of one civilization while living in a completely different one?
When the West finally stops being nice and gets rid of you lot, would you prefer to be gassed or shot?
those that make race a higher priority then intelligence are idiots
zoophilia is not allowed in islam i think it is time to study before calling out one for hes Faith
interesting may i ask if you are a muslim yourself ?
Oh and he also makes many lies like Farabi being executed. The guy died during the age of 80. If eh was going to be executed for his views, he'd have died earlier. There is no mention of Farabi being executed in any historical source, contemporary or not.
Claiming that every accomplishment was Greek is nonsensical. The Book of Optics by ibn Haytham was not a Greek accomplishment. It argued against Greeks like Euclid by using experiments. Holy fuck, the guy who wrote those posts is a moron. Just because it was closer to some Greek thinking doesn't make it Greek. Aristotlte didn't use experiments to support his idea of optics.
There's also Al Kindi who did advanced cryptography for its time by innovating in cryptanalysis by frequency analysis, being the first one to do so.
You don't have to tell you're a Muslim, we can see the flag
I'm agnostic, as I have issues with theism and it's hard to re-conciliate evolution with religion.
>"Annoying" people is totally NOT a reason to kill and maim others, especially when the preaching wasn't done constantly.
>those that make race a higher priority then intelligence are idiots
You're right ahmed.
He didn't choose to migrate in the West. See She is half Dutch, half Arab.
Source on the literature? I am interested in reading.
Have you read Kierkegaard?
Most of the IQ data from third world countries in the Lynn study are taken in the 1950s, where as some of the Western IQ data is more recent. I believe there is an IQ difference but it's not as big. More recent worldwide IQ studies are needed before reaching a strong conclusion.
in 200 years arabia has been silent i tend to look more during the Golden age of Islam witch had many Polymathicians and Phycisians
also during these times Hospitals and schools were being created for everyone to go to
not to mention one of the first universities was build in Morocco
not Philosophy im study Islamic Scripture but Indeed Philosophy can change ones views fast. its quite intriguing
for me it doesn't matter as long as that person doesn't become a erotic model or a pornstar, its a shame to the religion when they call themselves 'muslim'
I'm too young to move out to another country I was born here and I tend to stay here until I'm done with my education
being very realistic i doubt that will happen and if it does then the west will still be under controle of a greater enemy, but to answer your question i'd rather be shot because being gassed is unpleasend i think
Is islam an inherently violent religion
Is it just easy to manipulate Islam’s teachings to violence
To be fair, it's not a first in human accomplishments. But the satellite was 100% designed by Emaratis so that makes the UAE more competent than the vast majority of countries in that field.
she identifies as muslim and "tries" to pray 5 times a day while dating and drinking, would you allow this to happen in an islamic society?
Whatever can help you sleep at night moktar
i have a friend who is half syrian, and he drinks and hangs with us all the time.
when he gets piss drunk we always feed him pork, and the idiot doesn't mind even if i tell him( when he is sober he despises pork)
did i condemned him to hell?
Is homosexuality a sin?
Simple rule in Islam is don't bother other people, unless they break the NAP then fuck their shit up royally.
>no man should be killed for their disbelief, every man woman and child should decide for themselves what they want to believe in
What a shit thing to say. The holy book you’re studying explicitly states that it’s AOK to kill infidels. With those attitudes you’ll fail Jihad 101.
how is it a shame shouldn't islam be modernize my father is a muslim and he eats pork and drinks all the times with his buddies and he married my mom and didn't force me to ever be a muslim, one time I went to the mosaq with him and everyone seemed like a strict asshole.
Isn't Sharia law only applied to muslims, however if a non Muslim wants it, can it be enforced?
>Muslim studying for Ulama
>Ulama means a Islamic Scholar
If you're going to be an Islamic scholar why aren't you using the correct term? It's "alim", "ulama" is the plural
you know very much about History i am very intrigued
race means nothing to intelligence you know how many white belgians i know that cant point Poland on a map?
this is a commen saying with anti islamic westerners, but i have to tell you its a qoute pushed by jewish men that hate islam
all you will do is target islam and have a useless war with islamists while israel will watch and fund both sides like the jews do for 400 years now
It appears you do not have the slightest idea of how the quran is built up. There is a chronological order of the verses that needs to be taken into account. The verses you are talking about are verses from a part of the quran that was revealed during war times. In other words, they are ordering a defensive behavior. This, you can see by the next sentences of the verse we're talking about. Check it up. I won't do all the work for you. It's the 9th sura.
>There's a lot to refute and I don't have the time, but one of his first claims is that the Quran had different versions.
There are textual variants, you idiot
>The Quran also doesn't state the Trinity is made of up of Mary.
Perhaps, but the author certainly had no idea what the Trinity was
>And IslamQA is a salfist site. It's not the standard.
Somewhat true but it's the most popular one
>It was one specific tribe among many who faced punishment as a result of breaking a treaty.
And just looking who has and who hasn't pubic hair is not a good standard of determining who's guilty
>It's absolutely retarded to suggest that empires like the Romans were somehow innocents who didnt du nuffin to deserve getting conquered.
Sure, it was all defensive. The Muslims just had to conquer an empire from Persia to Spain (and invade France) to defend themselves. Not to forget the raids on Icelandic fishing villages by the Barbary pirates
When will pol take the final red pill?
>race means nothing to intelligence you know how many white belgians i know that cant point Poland on a map?
Are you retarded or do you just have no idea where you are?
hello, your prophet was a nonce and so are you
Fair enough. I can respect Muslims who live in their societies and leave us alone. The "use the welfare state as a stealth jizya" and "outbreed the Europeans to conquer them using their social programs mendaciously in bad faith" types are the ones who get the gas.
It's like, fight us on the battlefield. Using white people's social programs to try to outbreed them and sponge off them, it's so underhanded and jewy. Those types are basically Jews with rape gangs and suicide vests instead of high interest rates.
you have to go back. Islam is sandnigger gibberish unworthy of devoting your life into
You guys do realise that IQ is nothing more than gauging how well a person can do well in an western education system right?
he drinks so that is a major sin, but the pork feeding is your sin because he did not know it was pork but he does sin again because you admitted and he did not mind
were did you hear that? from your local Salafist preacher?
if islam is modernized then it will fall in the same claw of degeneracy like Christianity
yes its only for Muslims I don't know why many non believers fuss about it
does it matter?
On what basis is it gibberish. Have you taken the time to actually read the Quran?
After USA fags i have enough, idk how they study things but it like like factory of golems who know only his field of science, maybe less but not anything more.
>reading one source to be a scholar
I can tell you right now that that's a lie. Heck, the Quran states that we should be kind to all people regardless of their faith and only use kind words. " Those who killed a person brought death to all of humanity". I don't know where you get your information, however the Jews are really good at dividing and conquering
modernization would solve a lot of the problems you can suppress human nature like your relegion tries to do
race doesn't matter what matter is a personals will to educate themselves if you think that race truly means intellect then how come there are so many dumb westerners as well? I thought because they are white they must be smart right?
you are very delusional for having a blind hate to a faith
>were did you hear that? from your local Salafist preacher?
Try Ibn Rushd
>"The Muslims are agreed that the aim of warfare against the People of the Book, with the exception of those belonging to the Quraysh-tribe and Arab Christians, is twofold: either conversion to Islam, or payment of poll-tax (jizya). This is based on [9:29]: “Fight those who do not believe in God and the Last Day and do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden—such men as practice not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book—until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.” Most lawyers likewise agree that poll-tax (jizya) may also be collected from Zoroastrians (madjūs) on the strength of the words of the Prophet: “Treat them like the People of the Book.”"
That's from al-Bidaya
>does it matter?
Well it shows you're either not very knowledgeable about your own religion or you're LARPing
Kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammad (Quran 33;57-61)
Kill all Muslims who leave Islam (Quran 2;217/4;89/Bukhari 9;84-57)
Muslims cannot be friends with infidels (Quran 5;51)
Wife beating is OK (Quran 4;43)
Raping your wife is OK (Quran 2;223)
Proving rape requires 4 male Muslim witnesses (Quran 24;13)
Muslims are guaranteed entry to heaven if they kill non-Muslims (Quran 9;111)
Non-Muslims are pigs and apes (Quran 2;62-65/Quran 5;59-60/Quran7;166)
Muslims are allowed to behead non-Muslims (Quran 47;4)
And look what happened to your country. It's full of degenerate losers who are extremely confuses. For a country that was founded on limited government, your women seriously replaced you with big daddy goverment. After all, Satan wants people to be free so they can easily fall into sin
It does because Muhammed is the perfect example.
Dirty paedophile worshipping satanists
You gotta realize that not all Hadith are true and there are some that are unauthentic. And these Hadith are proven to be unauthentic, so basically we don't recognize these Hadith nor adhere to them
>race doesn't matter what matter is a personals will to educate themselves
Race is correlated with IQ. IQ is correlated with job perfomance, crime and other things. If you want to disprove that, find me a person with an IQ of 80 who works as a professional theoretical physicist.
>if you think that race truly means intellect then how come there are so many dumb westerners as well?
Look up what a bell curve is. We're talking about averages
>I thought because they are white they must be smart right?
Do you like anime?
Wut? There's literally one ahadith in that list and it's from Sahih al-Bukhari. The title pretty much says it all about the reliability of the hadith in that work
Averroes would roll in hes grave if he would see that
and Jizya is not so bad compared with the kosher tax
Yet Britain harbored Alexander Crowley and loved him. Try to compare the too. Mohammed was a saint who stood for rhiteousness, plus what right do you have to say how a scociety worked 2,000 years ago
It's the wife beating correct? Well allow me to clarify. There are disinformation agents who will mistranslate hadith's to make us look bad. Wife beating is scorned in Islam . What this means here is basically showing displeasure by not talking to your wife when you are displeased.
There are no textual variants you moron. The difference was in pronunciation. They were different styles for that. You don't even know Arabic, you're talking out of your ass.
>Perhaps, but the author certainly had no idea what the Trinity was
Christianity was very incosnsitent during the 6th century. There were Christian sects who believed Jesus was the literal son of God and others believed that Jesus was the son figurative yet still God in flesh. The Trinity makes no sense when it comes to monotheism. It was an attempt to reconcile Roman polytheism with Judaism.
>Somewhat true but it's the most popular one
In English perhaps. It's a Salafist site anyway.
>And just looking who has and who hasn't pubic hair is not a good standard of determining who's guilty
They were soldiers of the tribe, who were essentially the men of age. Their tribe were treasonous and so they faced the Old Testament law regarding treason.
>Sure, it was all defensive.
Essentially it was, besides invasion of Iberia and attempt to invade France which wasn't done by the Rashidun who were the contemporaries of Islam's Prophet.
>Icelandic fishing villages by the Barbary pirates
I didn't claim those were defensive you idiot. Barbary pirates were no agents of some Islamic state until they allied with Ottomans. Besides, that's close to a millenia after the beginning of Islam.
You're a massive retard for thinking empires are some innocent didnt du nuffin agents. I'm particularly glad they got destroyed, especially since they practiced massive ethnic cleansing by deportations and subjected the region into continuous war which completely destroyed food supplies and spread misery everywhere (See Roman Sassanian war).
>Averroes would roll in hes grave if he would see that
That I'm quoting his work? Doubt it. We can go to other scholars as well if you insist. Here's Ibn Khaldun for you
>"Thereafter, there were dissensions among the Christians with regard to their religion and to Christology. They split into groups and sects, which secured the support of the various Christian rulers against each other. At different times there appeared different sects. Finally, these sects crystallized into three groups, which constitute the (Christian) sects. Others have no significance. They are the Melchites, the Jacobites, and the Nestorians. We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Qur’ân. (To) discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is (for them to choose between) conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death."
Quote from al-Muqaddima of course
>and Jizya is not so bad compared with the kosher tax
The whole dhimma thing (which includes the jizya) is clearly making non-Muslims second degree citizens. Don't try me on this
no its too degenerate for my Soul
what about Discipline and people who try to expand their iq by studying physics for example, sure you can say bell curve but you cant call out a whole race on being mongrels because most lack that Education
Is Earth flat?
>race means nothing to intelligence
>The whole dhimma thing (which includes the jizya) is clearly making non-Muslims second degree citizens. Don't try me on this
Some Christians didn't pay the Jizya because they served in military campaigns along Muslims like some Arab Christian tribes.
Jizya is essentially like Zakat tax which the non-Muslims didn't have to pay. The claim that they were second class citizens is nonsensical given the fact that modern concept of citizenships don't apply in nations where citizenship didn't exist. They were a multicultural society where, for the most part, different cultures/societies were under different rules within an empire with the result being mostly from their culture.
And Jizya was also a replacement for similar land taxes before. States gotta make money.
Indeed there are other factors as well like parenting issues, cultural issues, and motivation etc. The point is that all humans share different perspectives and beliefs that actually allows the human race to grow. Say what you want about the Aztecs, but they were more hygenic than Europeans, and they built a city on water
>every man woman and child should decide for themselves what they want to believe
Wasn't every child born as muslim?
Give it about 100 years and it will.