Apparently "memes" are the work of postmodernist fascists, according to our communist friends

Apparently "memes" are the work of postmodernist fascists, according to our communist friends.

Other urls found in this thread:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interior_Semiotics
youtu.be/I9lmvX00TLY
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

So what does Sup Forums think of this?

They're just not funny and that guy has a massive stick up his ass.

Also a meme for the lefties

>It’s a battleground the left will never win
>buzzwords and Democrat blah blah

The reason why they cannot win is because their movement is revolves around being PC. Memes aim to not be PC and cause laughter. You cannot fight laughter no matter your political ideology. Perhaps if they were willing to go against their beliefs and get offensive, they could meme. But as long as they insist on being PC faggots in order to assure themselves they have moral superiority, they will always lose.

I fucking love these Wojacks so much, they're hilarious.

TL;DR

sage

It's a simple case of the emperor not wearing any clothes.

I've been predicting this since the early days of the Obama cyber warriors and the JIDF, before SJW was even coined, that the time would come where mockery and ridicule bring down the feral left. They themselves used it to great effect during the 80's and 90's, now that it's being used against them they have no real defense against it because they take themselves too seriously. They wholeheartedly believe they're on the right side of history, this is why they can't meme.

actually great reasoning explaining why the left can't meme. At least he admits it

Yeah it's not really possible to mock anyone while still believing in holy cows yourselves.

Post a meme.

meme

>memes represent a hostility to critical thinking

Lolz gross.

...

He still doesn't see the immediate and obvious truth. The real reason the left cannot meme is things are only funny when then are born out of truth and pain. They don't have a truthful view of the world and don't live the existential oppression of the neet, so they cannot give the typical insights into the world that a good meme gives. The only part he gets right is that the left has things they will not mock, which holds them back. Why are they afraid to mock things? He touches it; it boils down to they do not have truthful concrete views that can withstand criticism from within, so they dare not mock certain things less their own mocking destroys their own views.

>listen and believe
>no goy! don't listen to those people
Their cult is losing, but still has some tricks left I'm afraid.

I only read the first paragraph.

This makes no sense. Jokes are not anti-democratic, they are jokes, they can't be dictatorial or democratic, an individual makes them and other people laugh or not laugh. That's all there is to it, that guy is overdosing on pure sophistry mixed to insanity.

Also, if anything, they encourage critical thinking because if a joke doesn't make sense to us, if it has no meaning, it probably won't make us laugh, unless we like nonsense. Leftism, not even once.

I'm not reading all that. Give us a quote or tldr

Most of this text sounds like a huge load of post-modernist bullshit. But I guess he is right on some level, the right is winning the meme war. I unironically think that memes are one of the highest forms of modern art currently available

bbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppppppppp

>distance, subject, distance, distance, subject subject, subject

Geez, cool it with the pseudoscience, comrade.

Holy shit, user, the degree to which the older two boys in that pool exactly remember childhood photos of me and my older brother is uncanny.

Are those my real parents? Is this photo why they took me and my brother away from them and gave us to the people that raised us?

Mind. Blown.

*resemble

Gay, boring, at no point do commies summon up any primordial energy. To think these are the people who once shook the world to the core.

You can just smell the Zizek and superficial Hegelianism oozing out of the post.

>to be fair you need a very high IQ to participate in a democratic society
>etc

THAT'S WHAT I DISLIKE ABOUT COMMUNIST THEORY, IT'S A BUNCH OF SELFIMPORTANT COMMUNIST CROCK

Okay this is a bit surreal, on Sup Forums you type maybe one or two sentences, or a well structured post to convey a message, these lefty/pol/ folks are writing novels to try to explain something. Soooo much tl;dr, sooooo much filler and 'look at me I'm smart' language, fuck that.

>wall of strawman
>admits defeat like the cuck he is
Wew lad

Accurate.

>all that text that probably says nothing but self felatio psueudo intellectual babble
>it's the capitalists and the fascists fault
>no one reads it but agree because that much text must be good and smart

communists in a nuthshell

>restating things over and over to pad your hollow text masquerading as an analysis

lul I love when brainlets attempt to appear smart for their even dumber friends

Imagine being this thoroughly confused about the world lmao. I particularly like the references to the Congo civil war and Islamic terrorism, which are evidence fully in support of white nationalist ideology.

They are actually correct in their argument though, they say the Left lose the meme wars because there are topics the Left will not mock- eg. racism. Which make the Left look like the boring establishment instead of the rebels.

The left can't meme so instead of gitting gud they are just gonna call memes racist. I'm sure this will be very popular, especially with young people

This. The left can't meme because they are full of shit and never come around to succinct conclusions. They go on and on quoting their dead faggot comrades, but fail to produce one line of commonly observable truth.

They do this in their memes, too. It's why they are so terrible. Just wall text and talmudic bullshit.

Not all memes are sadistic unconstructive mockery.

For example fashwave. It makes fun of something but at the same time offer an alternative.

...

...

(Left meme)
>How can i compare this to Hitler and explain that to my audience as if their retards

(Right meme)
>How can i take this bad situation and find some redeeming humor in it.

There's an art to telling a joke and foundation of it is doing it such a way as to not shit all over your intended audience. The left has this weird obsession with treating their intended audience like they're morons so they come across as either retards or condescending asshats.

Yeah that's the biggest issue i have with that text. Memes, as Dawkins originally coined them, are units of self-propagating information, a cultural analogue to genes. Humor has nothing to do with them.

...

This lefty basically is trying to frame meme culture as simple cynism.
He is saying:
> You alt-righters are dangerous an antidemocratic becasue you mock our unperfect solution in this unperfect world that is eventually going to reach perfect utopia if only we keep this course of action.
> So any kind of mockery or action trying to change course is an act only originated from cynism and mediocrity.

A reading of the situation that is completely wrong and just too full of himself.

Agreed, if anything, only memes that "lots of people" share get any attention. how is people choosing to share or not share not a type of democracy?

people don't really use that definition anymore though. I've noticed it is a sort of right-wing thing to take the idea of memes seriously as a scientific framework.

Typical leftiest thinking. "If I can't have it, no one can!"

Jesus, this guy sucks at writing. It doesn't matter what you are saying if you don't do so with clarity.

Memes and humor are effective as they can cut directly through the pretension and cultural baggage and speak directly to the individual. This guy is talking about the abyss like Sup Forums doesn't look at it ever fucking minute of every day. He finds refuge in ideology and doctrine, we laugh at the abyss. We open others eyes to the truths of this world as best we can. We learned long ago, we care too much and too deeply about the world. When you first open your eyes and you see the abyss and the normies going about, they know about the abyss, at least the top layer, they just don't care and you care too much.

Also this guy is pretty much saying the only way to fight the abyss is to get rid of individuality. Classic commie mistake, the system never takes into account human fucking nature.

Seriously fuck this guy, why did I even bother reading that drivel.

TL;DR for this post-modern vomit:

Boohoo the right keeps mocking us but they don't really understand our positions they don't truly understand the glory of Marx and so their memes are wrong checkmate fascists. Also some things should not be mocked because they're super srs bsnss and the fact that we don't mock such things just proves we're superior to ebil nahzees. Also memes are inherently mean and the reason racist supremacists win meme war is because they're mean too, unlike us kind communists

In reality the reason memes work so well for us is because a lot of right wing topic are completely marred by taboos, and humor in the form of memes is an excellent way to break those taboos

>*White people*

The left cant meme becaise they are all shit people. Memes come from the heart which is why they humorous. The more soulful the person the better the memes. A bunch of pathetic self hating nihilists cant create anything. Its ehy they created modetn art, a genre built to celebrate lack of tallent and creativity. Leftists think shoving spaghetti-o's in your pussy is art because if they didnt they might haveto confront the reality that they are souless zealotts no more unique than the 1000s of other hipsters who do exactly the same thing to feign creativity and individuality. Theyve ruined Hollywood and the music industry, there is nothing creative about releasing the same mumble rap or capeshit every month.

i almost feel bad for the person who typed all of that

do you have a link to the spaghettio pussy video?

Autistic basement dwelling fataases is more accurate

Reads like a load of pseudo-intellectual bullshit from a slavish-minded midwit who cannot think outside the ideological box in which his indoctrinators placed him.
Attempting to "psychologically analyze", ie make a shitty strawman, one's opponent is really pathetic and betrays the fact that the one doing it has no real argument or critique.

>one of the highest forms of modern art
I've thought the same thing; they contain so much of the human conditionn and are universally understandable. Not only do they function as a from of Visual expression, but there is an art in employing them in an effective manner.

It's beautiful really.

Please see Not only that, the guy root meme culture and the alt-right efforts only in cynicism.
Not like the alt-right actually propose a lot of alternatives and is willing to do the sacrifice.

It's a completely retarded reading of the situation.

And could be really dangerous.

Like when the international judendom show pictures of dead kids to female voters to open borders of unwilling nations.

Those are memetics in action.

tl;dr

They aren't smart; they're "smart". A wise man can explain the ultimate truth in a single word. A fool speaks forever.
Leftists have been trained not to speak Truth but to convince you that they're smart so that you believe they must be right. They live in a world devoid of Truth. Their entire existence is a delusion.

Also the right has reality on its side, its easy to out meme the left when the things you meme are things the average person can easily relate to. The memes about the left are only popular because they are true. The lefts memes againat the right are pretty much "youre racist" "youre sexist" "if youre against x it means your y" "if you arent a nigger loving commie youre secretly a jew" and most people can see through it.

The person who wrote the text in OP is obviously smart. They're also displaying arguably manic language.

It results from trying to understand the world when your basic premises are wrong. No matter how you enter the inputs, you get the wrong answer, because your facts are just not true. It leads to these insane convoluted theories of reality and within these communities you get status points for being able to wriggle around these word games.

The entire history of the Talmud is basically this

Video was pulled from youtube but this is the wikipedia article on it. I bet i can find it on liveleak maybe.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interior_Semiotics

Does this exist in smartphone backround resolution?

I like how his definition of anti-democratic is anti-commie.

They post the same way they meme.
>pic related, fresh from /leftypol/

it's nothing

I think i found the video

youtu.be/I9lmvX00TLY hopefully its the directors cut where she fingers herself with the spaghettios

And I forgot the pic

well he's right, the average person doesn't listen to political arguments, but they do blindly repeat memes

>Seriously fuck this guy, why did I even bother reading that drivel.
You read it so other wouldn't have to read it.
You read it to make sure other anons understand why this block of text is wrong.
You read it, because you want to stay informed on what tactics the left is trying now.

But really, you put to words what I was thinking but having trouble expressing. So thank you.

>"the socialist position is that the key to their suffering lies in the contours of their consciousness
lol what?
socialism is literally, "THE FUCKING CAPITALISTS DID THIS"

Thanks for the image

What a garbage meme. You won't see this in the ADL hall of fame any time soon.

Holly shit. Its a abomination.

>In the video, Stolz spends two and a half minutes opening a can of SpaghettiOs, then pours them into a pan and adds water and dirt while reciting a poem: "Dirt is all around us, everything is shit. We apply meaning, value, and worth to the shit surrounding us. We live by this meaning, and by our words, we live by worth, and apply value, but, everything is shit"

Do you think they have lost their identity as a natural creature? A dog or a bird never sulks in misery, why do they choose to live this way?

A man who does not understand the world cannot be smart. They're a fraud. Give me a downy who has humbled himself to reality and accepts Trutg before a Harvard graduate who lives a lie. The Downy is wise; he is smart. TheHarvard Graduate is a robot, a high IQ drone.
Intelligence isn't a clear cut as we think.

The reason the left cannot meme is the left cannot do original thought and the essence of memery is original ideas and memetic mutation of ideas. All leftists can do is spout back the orthodox positions indoctrinated into them, they cannot look at already existent ideas, images and concept and rearrange or alter them in such a way as to present entirely new and challenging ideas and concepts.

>Mind. Blown.

Pure pottery

If it takes more than a paragraph to make a point, you're probably not making a very good point.

>Yeah it's not really possible to mock anyone while still believing in holy cows yourselves.
Hey, I believe in quite a few sacred cows, of course I'm willing to have fun with and find the humor in my own sacred cows and my own side.

The left cannot create; they can only destroy. They wallow in the ruins of their own destruction and call it liberation from order.

Also, how the fuck does it take her so long to open a can?

>I've thought the same thing; they contain so much of the human conditionn and are universally understandable. Not only do they function as a from of Visual expression, but there is an art in employing them in an effective manner.
>It's beautiful really.
I guess you put it into words better than I ever could have. I don't know much about art, and I've never been an artistic person, but I do know that modern art sure as hell doesn't speak to me

Some more.

The Gish gallop is strong. The left can't meme because they are children parroting their parents.

cryptomerchant

...

It's punishment, they are destined to live like this forever, they will repeat their miserable existence in different skin. Forced to watch as humanity abandons them, forced to see their own ugliness.

We are favored.

...

I may be completely off the mark here but:
Traditional forms of Comedy (e.g. Late Night Talk Shows) typically skew towards Leftist ideologies
Alternative forms of Comedy (e.g. Dank Memes) typically have Conservative leanings

They both utilize satire and parody and typically are at the expense of others.

Explain this phenomenon Sup Forums

duh, we're writing the book on 4g memetic warfare. we the propagandist now

FUCK

>In reality the reason memes work so well for us is because a lot of right wing topic are completely marred by taboos, and humor in the form of memes is an excellent way to break those taboos
Another reason memes work so well is that they can take complex concepts and convey them simply in a way most people can understand intuitively and on an emotional level.

Contemporary art is based upon abstraction; it's meaning is completely lost to the viewer.

Memes, however, are predicated upon the nesssceity to share information; they are built inherently to bring meaning and understanding to the world. They inherently bring order. Those that do not, those the obscure Truth cannot propagate.
They are the ultimate form of Art.

Do your own googles, Satan.

You are implying Colbert can even compete with a dank meme?

Furthermore, a meme can only succeed if the true human collective (consisting of individuals) approved of it

Just watch the typical late night comedy of the last 10 years, there’s no actual humor, it’s just
>x said y
>omg, can you believe it? It’s current year and x talks just like hitler. Le evil nadsi r-right?
>P-please clap