How long did it take you to come to the realization that there is no best girl in the monogatari series because they...

How long did it take you to come to the realization that there is no best girl in the monogatari series because they are all the best girl? Every single girl in the series is just as good as the other, and I don't mean "yeah they're all good but Karen is THE BEST" but I mean "these are all great characters and not a single one is worse than any other"

true except for snake because snake is absolute shit

Non-Japanese have no place discussing the Monogatari series.

I want to pay Kaiki to hold my hand.

The best girl is the one who barely avoided being in the harem because she knew the harem was a trap.

>posts the girl most likely to disagree with what he's saying

Snek is objectively worse than the others, the other girls even say so.

I also think Birb is boring as fuck

all the girls are great in their own ways, and theyre all best. but some of the girls are just bester

I want to carry Kagenui around on my shoulders

Snake is just as good as the other girls, just not as a part of the harem. That's the thing, she easily had some of the best development in the series, but she doesn't fit with the other girls.

She goes from being a pathetic piece of shit to a self-aware piece of shit, some progression

Agreed, how can some of them compete with the immortal loli?

So it's almost over, right?

What do we do then? How do we settle this war?

Who is the best written Monogatari girl?

We don't settle it. In the end, araragi has kissed every girl, or will kiss them at some point, will probably fuck most of them, at least the immortal ones, and will definitely marry at least 2 of them. It's a harem ending spanning across decades.

The donut imp

Hanekawa or Nadeko.

Shinobu, the entirety of monogatari is development for her and RRRgi

It's a really close tie between Shinobu, Senjyogahara, Kanbaru, and Ougi.

This.

>Hanekawa
>Well written
Maybe it's because Nekomonogatari bored the shit out of me, but I'm very confused as to how someone could think this.

I think it's more centuries than decades
We still get nearly all of monster season and probably something after that, no it's not almost over.
bat.

Hanekawa is only the best at suffering.

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Disgusting

Is Senjyogahara a cuckquean? Her boyfriend is obviously flirting with other women and she can't seem to care.

Nadeko is an unlikeable cunt. However, she's a well written character.

Today, in shit that never happened.

best girl

It was in his mind though.
Cat is a crazy communist anyway. she's not important at all for most of it

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Hitagi is so desperate for affection that she settled for a pervert adulterer who hallucinates lolis.

she would straight up murder him and whatever girl if he actually cheated on her though

Think about all of the people he's kissed during this show. Think about all of the naked women he's seen and boobs he touched.

Any sane woman would've dropped his ass. Senjyogahara hasn't.

>straight up murder him and whatever girl
First of all, how? She has no oddities left in her and the only think she has are some fucking staplers and pens. You know even Nadeko didn't fall for her bluff. In the ending "trailer" she even killed all of them at the same time, and not in the order hitagi said she should.
Also
>kissed bat
>kissed snail
>kissed doll
>kissed birb
>kissed bee
She's weak and that's just a bluff, you know it user.

Thinking about it, does Senjyogahara, the only girl that Araragi can do whatever he wants to, have the least ecchi scenes? Maybe Math, but that's it.

I don't think she has any way of knowing about any of those. He would never tell her about Karen, she wouldn't know about Hachikuji, Shinobu would never tell her anything, and it was him who got molested by Kanbaru. Can't think of any other instances off the top of my head.

Crab has the most lewd scenes though

She probably couldn't kill some of them, you're right. Definitely not bat, snail or doll, how can you kill what's already dead? I don't think she cares much about the undead lolis though. She would kill Ragi though

Then again, wasn't there the thing in Tsuki where she said "if you're close to dying and there's no chance of survival, I will suck all your blood and turn you and me into a full vampire again."? I don't think bat would care if he was okay with it, since he even promised to die when she feels like she wants to die.

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She could just kill him really, really quickly.

Is crab aware of this?

I don't think there's any way crab could kill him quick enough before bat would take action.

All of them have major character flaws. Not like "oh she's kind of stupid sometimes but usually really smart", but believable flaws like possessive or immature or insecure or has a quick temper. Actual, believable flaws that make them interesting for more than just their looks. It's enough to make some people hate certain characters while others love those characters.

The thing that pisses me off is that some of the faults they're literally never punished for. Like Birb.

They are linked, there's no way she can kill him as quick as Gaen and even she had help from the sword.
Nobu and crab never talk, no way she's aware of that. She probably knows that she'd have to "fight" bat after that but I don't think she knows that bat will also turn rrgi full vamp again.

Name 1 flaw this character has

The thing is, Senjyogahara is basically incapable of killing him for real. His vampiric regeneration has only gotten stronger over time, and if she were to push it too much, she runs the risk of nature itself actually making Araragi a vampire again, since she would be forcing Araragi's body to use vampiric traits. He can't just turn off his regeneration, by not relying on it Araragi is just avoiding situations where he would have to use it at all. And even if she were to try to kill Araragi, she can't do anything worse than what Kagenui or Hanekawa have already done to him, and he has made a full recovery from those situations. It's all one big bluff and Hitagi and Araragi both know it is, but Araragi goes along with it because he doesn't want Hitagi to know that he knows it's a bluff. It works because Hitagi assumes he's too dense to undetstand that she really can't kill him. Or maybe he really doesn't know and he really is that dense. Point being, Crab can't kill RRRgi

Where do you guys even read the LNs? I can't find them anywhere, or rather, they're not complete at all

She wasn't nice about killing Araragi. Should've at least let him get last words in, maybe call his family and tell them he won't be there for dinner tonight, or tell Crab that she was really just part of his harem.

That's pretty much it. Well she could indirectly kill him if she pushed him too hard and he's classified as dangerous again, but then again I don't think Kagenui and Ononoki are capable of defeating full power Kiss-Shot and rrgi

Either the official ones or fan translations.

>Senjyogahara keeps trying to kill Araragi but it doesn't work
>Tries for hours and hours but can't do it
why is my mental image of this so cute

Can't speak for others but I don't dislike Nadeko because she's not part of the harem (Kagenui's not part of the harem either and I think she's cool. If Gaen would stop dumping massive amounts of mostly obvious exposition whenever she showed up she'd be cool too). I dislike her because I didn't find her arc that interesting. It is different, which is why I think most people latch onto her, but outside that one scene in Nadeko Medusa where she snaps in the classroom (and I think it made an impact more for being sorta uncharacteristic of the sorta shit HanaKana voices than anything else) I didn't find it as interesting or entertaining as almost any other girl's. I lost interest in Kaiki as a character too after we found out his backstory in Hana so maybe I just don't care for this type of character in general.

For what it's worth I didn't like her back when she was part of the harem either though.

Tsukihi is just a kid man, it'd be unfair to really sit her down and talk about her character flaws. She has plenty of time to grow out of them. I think she's babied to an extent, but she's kind of at that weird age where she's not really a kid anymore but she's still young. She's also the youngest child, and they tend to get away with more things for longer than older siblings can.

With Gaen it's her way or the highway. She thinks she deserves the last word in everything because she has much more experience and thus treats everyone around her badly because she looks down on them. From an outside perspective you think that she's always right and so everyone should just do what she says. From an inside perspective, she treats others like kids and she's the adult who makes all the rules. It's demeaning and irritating after a while.

Yeah, and where would one find those fan translations? I've already checked Baka-Tsuki

But it was part of her plan, wait for owari 2.

>who barely avoided being in the harem because she knew the harem was a trap
That's not what happened though. She's just never around, in part because Gaen actively tries to keep her away from all the stuff going on around Koyomi.

That being said Koyomi considers her out of his league anyway.

I mean, she IS out of his league. Everyone else is attracted to him because he's a rad vampire who solves their problems, but she's even cooler.

Literally just search for them and go through the websites. Which one are you looking for?

>Think about all of the people he's kissed during this show.
Yotsugi and Mayoi kissed him.
He only kissed Shinobu (who Hitagi is having to accept anyway) and Karen (it's just sibling skinship t.Koyomi)

Pretty much...all of them? Any that are fully translated instead of just chapters. I've already read Bake, Kizu and Nise on Baka-Tsuki long ago before they were licensed and taken down, plus I've found Otori fully translated online, but no luck with the rest

I don't need her to join the Araragi Harem™
I just want her to have more banter with the guy like in that one episode of Koyomimono and maybe sit on his shoulders one time

No he kisses bird too

>(it's just sibling skinship t.Koyomi)

>I didn't cheat on you with my sisters, anal is just skinship
>I didn't cheat on you with Hachikuji, she's a ghost, I was basically fucking air
>I didn't cheat on you with Yotsuga, she's like a sex doll
>I didn't cheat on you with Shinobu, she's not a person or a vampire, so I really didn't fuck anything at all
>I didn't cheat on you with Kanbaru, she's the one who raped me

Only the last one is viable

I'm just quoting the other user ya idiot.
Besides Nobu and Hachikuji are clearly superior

>implying Koyomi wouldn't use all of those excuses anyways

He never fucked any of them, and most of them kissed him, so not cheating

There is a very good chance that he has fucked Karen

Looks like a Pokemon trainer

Coincidentally Kanbaru, Hanekawa and Sodachi are the ones Gahara's worried about.

Just taught her the proper ways of dental care.

>both his sisters admitted to Hanekawa that they were brocons
>RRRgi admitted to monkey that he was a siscon
>toothbrush scene shows a very clear sexual attraction between both characters
>they lived together alone for a long period of time

Just family bonding, bro. Aren't you glad they are a close family?

But with both his sisters being who they are, there's also a good chance they were teasing Hanekawa and not talking about being brocons in the sexual sense for real

pretty sure their parents are there, we just never see them

Are you sure we're talking about the same series here
>Karen is literally always craving for brother dick
>Tsukihi is a yandere for her brother
>Both of their boyfriends are described only as "Just like Oniichan"

How do you get bored of tantrums and extra cheeky banter? I could understand you thinking she's a brat, or annoying, but not boring.

fpbp

Even if they are there, their parents are hardly home and when they are it's later at night. There's nothing keeping them from fucking like rabbits except for shinobu.

Nah, a few years later in the timeline it's just Koyomi & Karen in the house. Dunno the exact specifics but to my understanding, their parents get transferred or promoted and for work purposes relocate somewhere else, and Tsukihi moves to America to study dance or some shit. By this point both Koyomi and Karen are cops and they both live together in the family house by themselves.

It's mentioned that Karen cooks his meals and Koyomi does the cleaning around the house too.

Aside from bat, cat has the second most focus as a side character in the entire series. Her relationship with araragi, the image that she has to keep up and the stress and envy that result from it, and her coming to terms with her inner demons, all that was pretty well written

ougi is so boring though oh my god

she's so spoogi though, she's fun

Her decisions caused: all the Ougi fuckery, Hachikuji going to hell, Araragi starting to go full vamp, Kaiki getting bopped, Tadatsuru getting fingered, Kagenui and Oshino getting stuck in the middle of nowhere for months, and murderous Nadekami. It's basically all because she tried to strongarm Shinobu into being a goddess.

>Hachikuji going to hell
This was going to happen regardless to be fair. Actually in Hachikuji's case blame all the specialists that were around for apparantly finding Hachikuji too harmless an oddity to bother dealing with her despite her pretty tragic circumstances.

>Kaiki getting bopped
He had this coming since atleast the time he sent Kagenui to fuck up Araragi's family, why list it as a negative?

I disliked Ougi in everything but Math's arc where I really enjoyed her as a character.

I suspect that Gaen herself is a bit miffed about having to sacrifice one of her pawns when it could have been avoided.

Basically she lost 3 of her pawns. She even said "It's a shame it has come to this" and "With no one left I have to start acting myself."

They were tied up. Kaiki was lost.

Reminder that Bird was literally fucking vaporized and then woke up like it was nothing

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>pink hair rrgi
What did they mean by this?

All of their hair is fucked. The Araragis and Hanekawa especially

She was not stronger. But she was fucking batman.

No she was fucking Kaiki

She's fucking both.
Even worse.

Danm burn

Because if not, Araragi, Bird, Bee and Cat would all have black hair, and that'd be bad bc 90% of those are just their hair.