How to prevent mass shootings while maintaining freedom against intruders and tyrannical governments:
Allow people to have guns designed for killing 1 or 2 things, not 10 or 20 things, eg: basic shotguns, hunting rifles, and pistols. If everyone has these, then there is power in the people, and pistols allow for defence against home intrusion.
ban semi-automatic weapons that are designed to kill multiple people or things at once - because there is no situation where this is justified.
Restrict open/concealed carry - if someone tries to mug you at gunpoint, they will never shoot you unless you have a gun too. If only muggers have guns, then they are easy to identify by police.
Nothing is going to happen, story will be forgotten by monday.
Eli Ward
I'd personally give every upset young male a gun if I could.
School shootings are good, they are a method of speaking up against injustice.
Social and moral decay, modern capitalism, and feminism, are the main causes of school shootings. A broken society causes young men to commit school shootings.
Over 99% of school shootings are men.
>they will never shoot you unless you have a gun too Many blacks and Mexicans shoot innocent people they rob for no reason, or because they have to kill someone as part of a gang initiation.
Hudson Carter
why don't you mind your own business and keep huffing the petrol ya abo?
Parker Sanchez
user is a kiwi
Jason Baker
>abo nice
Dylan Clark
The things you are saying are false. Niggers will attack in packs and kill people after they've robbed them a lot of times, plus I don't want to be at the mercy of criminals to not be killed. How can I trust people willing to break into my home not to kill me?
Plus you are asking to functionally ban the majority of guns in this country. You can commit a mass shooting with shotgun shells and pipes. You just make a slam gun receiver with a pipe, an endcap, cardboard, and a nail then you glue shotgun shells into the pipes and carry them around in a bag and just throw away the barrel pipes and spent shells.
Jason Kelly
>g-give all the s-s-sad and m-mad people all the weapons they want s-so they can be heard!!!! >t-the only way p-people will listen is if I s-shoot everybody >I-I'm really s-sad and n-need some weapons to p-prove to everybody w-what's wrong with everything
Gavin Brooks
You see these? You know what these are? They're freedom. They're safety. I'll tell you this, because your parents didn't tell you about the real world.
There are people in this world that are sick, either mentally or if you believe spiritually. They have no other goal than to inflict as much suffering as possible. Inanimate objects DON'T kill people, a human being did this. Human beings, not guns kill people, humans, not pesticide killed people. You say that without guns those people wouldn't have died, but they DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUNS.
Just like in Russia, where Ukrainians were stripped of guns, and starved to death. Just like in Germany, where who practiced a faith were stripped of guns, even those who fought for Germany, were worked, shot, starved, gassed, or left to die.
Now in comparison to the MILLIONS of people who died helpless, like those people did in that school, waiting for SOMEONE with a GUN to save them.
This is the world we live in. I'll take 17, mourn their lives and try tell the idiots in charge that a GUN would have saved them. But you, would have people with GUNS take our GUNS, and then what?
Do you think that someone, won't just do what that kid did, just on a massive scale?
Kid, grow the fuck up.
Jackson Peterson
>if someone tries to mug you at gunpoint, they will never shoot you unless you have a gun too. I see you've never dealt with niggers.
Aaron Sanchez
>changing the 4th amendment doesn’t mean that the police can just loot your shit goy, it just means they need less of a reason to loot your shit
Juan Walker
keep sucking faggot the NRA isn't done cumming in your mouth yet
Xavier Allen
>I see you've never dealt with niggers. I've never seen one in person.. only abos.
Aiden Baker
american reading comprehension is pretty bad, I know, so I will say this again:
you don't need to ban all guns if everyone has shotguns and hunting rifles, then there will still be power in the people
Nice job just reciting your opinion like it is a triggered response without actually reading what I had to say.
Jack Gonzalez
stfu fag molon labe
Cameron Nelson
how bout you fuck off and mind your business. The chutzpah of you non-Americans to think you get a fucking say.
Brandon Williams
Why dont americans mind their own business in other country's matters? 3 million are dead in the middle east because americans couldn't mind their own business.
Isaiah Roberts
Excellent idea. Let's enact a prohibition on some farmer with a target rifle in Vermont because someone 1500 miles away did something illegal. Seems fair.
Austin Thompson
>ban semi-automatic weapons that are designed to kill multiple people or things at once - because there is no situation where this is justified.
I hope Trump becomes Mein Furhur of America and the entire planet then and starts gassing shitskins en masse. You'll change your tune very quick when a tyrannical government you don't like is in power.
Carter Brooks
Thanks to the Anglo Iranian Oil Company (BP).
Owen Martin
fuck you americans are actually retarded.
Leo Ross
Psst, you can hunt with ARs and AKs.
Joshua Garcia
Psst, you can hunt without ARs and AKs
Ethan Reyes
CRIMINALS DONT CARE ABOUT GUN LAWS.
Jeremiah Green
Neat, uninvent them then.
Brayden Wilson
Utter bullshit. You fuckers hated Americans. You're saying this just to try to get a rise out of us. Now you're just giddy because Americans are dead, you never cared.
Mason Fisher
srly your gonna judge us when you you got 10x worst problems with Muslims
Tyler Evans
If you actually came here, you'd notice 8 out of 10 rifles on the firing range are ARs these days, mostly due to cost of ammo.
I don't hold it against you. You're probably still pissed about Americans screwing up the Fosters/Victoria thing.
Henry Gomez
the fuck
americans are so clueless about other countries, it is hilarious.
Jacob Thomas
>Allow people to have guns designed for killing 1 or 2 things, not 10 or 20 things
shitpost of the evening
Hunter Walker
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Dylan Cox
are the gun laws of the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and a whole bunch of other western countries just one giant shitpost?
Austin Gutierrez
Here's an idea. You go and kill yourself. How about that? What if you just go fucking die? That'd be great. Works for me.
Carter Morales
kk
Luke Edwards
> New Zealand Bad choice. Category B firearms are legal there.
Dominic Gutierrez
Why limit the rights of law-abiding citizens as a response to murder?
>cops the school fucking pays for runs away at the first sign of actually having to protect the children >swat team sits on their hands doing fuck all while children get shot to death >everyone calls these cowards "brave" for not doing their job >everyone will blame le evil assault rifles
Brayden Lopez
I un-ironically 100% endorse that. And/or dismantling public schools.
Jaxson Jackson
you still have the right to bear arms. you still have the right to form militia against tyranny. No rights are being infringed, you are just not allowing people to commit mass murder with high-capacity rifles.
Alexander Johnson
>they will never shoot you unless you have a gun too. If only muggers have guns, then they are easy to identify by police.
not true. however the solution to muggings is harsher sentences and punishments and more policing. Not giving everyone a concealed weapon. For example, it should be legal to banish criminals from cities.
Jordan Clark
Implying criminals have honor.
Nicholas Reyes
SHALL
Jason Watson
Neat, I'd be happy for bolt guns and trench mags to come back. Big boy rifles also tend to have better penetration so more collateral damage is a good idea.
Noah Kelly
Virginia tech done with pistols dumbass
Jordan Evans
>prevent you from using high capacity weapons >do not infringe on your rights
Pick one
Look, if someone wants to shoot up a school, a law won't stop them. Mags are cheap and plentiful. Ban guns, and you'll just have retards running over kids with trucks, setting schools on fire, or just bombing the place.
Jaxon Bell
So still legal to own, with a license. Or were you okay with us Yanks still having semi-autos with a CHL or whatever licensing mechanism you had in mind?
Joseph Young
Because we have hard power and you don’t. So fuck off and mind your business. If you really gave a shit about muh 3 million then you’d not be so concerned about 20 Americans unless you’re some kind of bigot.
Jacob Allen
>you are just not allowing people to commit mass murder Good good, man. That's already illegal. You guys have some interesting ideas how things work here.
Jacob Sullivan
Yes, because this worked well in Chicago, right?
Nolan Taylor
>he had an AR rifle >armalite rifle rifle ???? This is a sheriff?
Evan Clark
he didn’t have time to prepare, he had to stop at the atm machine
Juan Williams
How's about you kill yourself hobbit?
Ethan Allen
This is just Florida being Florida. Nothing to see here.
Easton Richardson
The gymnastics you have to do to defend your crap guns. Lmao at your life
Michael Green
Kinda harder to put a fire on something than to shoot it, don't you think?
Or, worst, setting timed bombs?
William Thomas
>Allow people to have guns designed for killing 1 or 2 things You have obviously never gone shooting It isn't like the movies where you easily hit your target if you're a good guy
Asher James
You just noticed?
Isaac Jones
You should stay out of Wellington if you think we're retarded. They've adopted our way of thinking there
Noah Jackson
now THIS is what I call edgy 5
Aaron Miller
> NZ Why do you care? Does your media only report things that happen here?
> ban semi-automatic weapons Nearly all pistols are semi-automatic, btw.
With regards to the underlying behavioral issues, I've come to believe cultural homogeneity is the only solution. That is the only way we'll have a framework in which to define robustly "deviant" or "at-risk" behavior.
Jeremiah Gomez
Good luck trying to ban a technology that is 133 years old.
Michael Gray
what does the age of the technology have to do with anything?
Christopher Parker
There has always been guns in the US yet the increase in amount of mass shootings has happened within the past decade or two. The guns aren't the problem. Something else is causing people to decide to shoot up a lot of people.
Cooper Peterson
You can't uninvent it. I can make a 30 rounder in my garage with some aluminum. The only reason I buy them is because they'll no doubt look better and it's quicker.
Jacob Jackson
The only thing your faggotry will do is get more people robbed by niggers and shitskins
Noah Anderson
>guns arent the problem everything else is
You cucks are worse than the jews
John Jackson
SHALL
Nathaniel Perry
>gun culture has been a thing for nearly 300 years >only become an issue in the last twenty They're pretty clearly not the problem
Lincoln Williams
I like that perspective. I haven't been alive long enough to know that it is a recent thing. It's not like I care to research about the history of mass shootings in another country to that extent, so that is a novel viewpoint. Perhaps it is because of the easier access to these guns, or because it actually is something intrinsic. What would make it relatively exclusive to the USA though?
Caleb Clark
If guns were the problem we'd see a constant amount of mass shootings throughout history considering that there has always been million of guns in the US.
Jonathan Robinson
but there haven't always been a large number of high-capacity rifles.
Zachary Stewart
Yes there has, shit son, google the Winchester Repeating Rifle.
Jason Jackson
Its not easier access to guns. Guns have always been around and there's always been a black market. It has to be a mixture of many things: mental health, glorification of violence, the media attention these mass shooters get, etc. If you look into a lot of these mass shooters a majority of them suffer from some type of mental illness.
Gabriel Watson
And the majority of gun crime doesn't involve high-cap rifles. And the two school shootings with ARs had worse high scores than an asian with pistols
Ayden Taylor
Our people are more mean-spirited and cutthroat in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and celebrate a culture of vapid attention whoring as a path to success more than any other nation.
Jordan Gomez
Based Australia has had zero mass shootings since its regulative gun reform
Anthony Baker
then why do shooters often kill themselves afterwards?
Christopher Rodriguez
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Ian Williams
no
Ethan Martin
Because they're mentally ill and were planning on offing themselves anyways but decided they didn't want to die nobodies. So they go off a bunch of people then suck off their gun so their name is known.
Justin Campbell
What else would you do? Live in prison forever? Fuck is wrong with you?
John Morales
Leftists take and take and take and eventually there's nothing left. Leftists by nature do not have restraint nor do they understand moderation. Everything they do is excessive.
So no, faggots, you can't have my guns.
John Scott
And how many people cloud you realistically kill with that garbage gun?
Henry Ross
>suffer from some type of mental illness.
Owen Cruz
/thread
Cameron Jenkins
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS NOT YOUR PROBLEM YOUR OPINIONS ARE IRRELEVANT THEY MEAN NOTHING
Nathan Russell
it's not the shooters I'm referring to as the vapid attention whores, it's the perceived enemy the shooter is targeting. If your end reward for lashing out at this system is the ultra-pleasant American prison system, and your life is already miserable to the point that you decide to kill your peers, then it's probably a better choice to off yourself.
Jaxon Robinson
Does ten million dead in a civil war over confiscation make you pop your rocks?
Aiden Reyes
>Based Australia has had zero mass shootings since its regulative gun reform
That does not prove causation.
Benjamin Carter
If guns were the problem, other countries with lots of guns (many in Europe) would have a comparable level of school shootings in-line with their rates of gun ownership. They do not.
Thomas Long
Why are New Zealanders such massive faggots?
Angel Roberts
I am not saying that all guns need banning. I am not a leftist, I am a centrist. I just think that semi-automatic rifles are unnecessary for hunting and target shooting, and are easily used for mass homicide. If you can tell me how the benefits of assault rifles outweigh the cost of lives, then I may be swayed.
Josiah Bell
My sides
John Smith
And tell me the number of muslims, I mean british citizens who know their ass from their elbow, much less the ability to perform complex tasks like operating a firearm?
Logan James
NOT GIVING THEM UP WITHOUT A CIVIL WAR, FAGGOT!
Brody Hall
>Gun culture has been a thing for nearly 300 years >Guns that can shoot more than one bullet per minute have been a thing for 150 years >Automatic guns have been a thing for 100 years >mass produced, highly efficient, automatic and semi automatic guns have been a thing for 30 years.
Aiden Stewart
fair enough, but if there is a problem with american culture that promotes shootings, it doesn't change the fact that assault rifles make it easier.
Blake Butler
>Australia has over 10 mass shootings in the two decades before 1996 >After 35-person mass shooting, bans almost all instances of gun ownership >Zero mass shootings since >"B-but no causation!"
Sebastian Brown
Can you guys just keep talking? Like keep it up we need to figure out what makes you so fucking backward and the only way to do that is to pick your messed up brains so keep going please