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>17 kills in a school full of hundreds of unarmed children
in a way its good that edgelord millennials and the entire normieverse think the AR15 is the most powerful rifle on earth. can you imagine if would-be millennial faggots knew they were shooting a bullet designed for hunting squirrels?

i say we have a responsibility to spread the MSM propaganda that the AR15 is deadliest assault weapon machine gun baby killer of war since the atomic bomb. the last thing we need is pyschopaths using a real cartridge designed to kill anything under 800 lbs in weight. god help us if a normie school shooter gets ahold of a garand

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The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.

City people all voted for Hillary.

>niggers in commie blocks voting for gibs

.223 and 5.56×45 is what the military uses. It's accurate but not really deadly.

7.62x39 is where it's at. There's no semi auto long gun that shoots 30-06 rapidly. Youd have to use a hunting rifle.

City people like niggers?

Ohio ordnance HCAR

>It's accurate but not really deadly.
This is actually part of the point. Fucking someone up still takes them off the battlefield, but then ties up resources in treating the injured and evacing them and shit, and having field hospitals full of injured and dying men is damaging to morale. Yes the US has made its military policy to wound its enemies to death.

>city people, like niggers.

Just made this argument from .223 to 7.62x54r using visual aides.

thirty aught six is

BAR.
But nothing beats a Tigr9 .
Please Putin just let me have one Tigr9, I will marry a Russian gal and make lots of babies, just lemme have a Tigr9

If you destroy your enemies they won't come back. Why let them get away?

Forgot about the BAR. Nobody has one anyway except gun enthusiasts. There nearly impossible find, cost a fortune, and has to be fixed to semi auto.

7.62 Russian baby

I already explained. You wound a guy, he falls down and starts screaming and shit. This is demoralizing and similar to if you killed him, but since he's merely wounded and not dead and probably letting people know how not dead he is with all the screaming, your enemy feels obligated to retrieve him. This lets you shoot more people who are distracted. If they do retrieve him, he's now tying up whatever medical resources he's consuming, he's filling up their ability to care for people and he's demoralizing everyone by being part of a mass of wounded. The medics get overtaxed and stressed and lack of supplies still results in death and disease.

I thought 7.62x39 was supposed to have worse ballistics than 5.56 NATO. Like, it's lower velocity and over-penetrates, while smaller 5.56 fragments inside the body and does more damage that way.

no, it hasn't. 5.56 was selected because it is light, has great ballistics within 300 yards, fragments easily, has little recoil, and is just better than your average 6.5 cartridge. using a round designed to wound people is fucking dumb.

or you just shoot him, he dies, you bombard his friends with artillery and they die, and you can go back your FOB and have a beer with your friends.

What are some guns that are superior to AR15s?

I hope none of them find out what an FAL is. It shoots a bullet close to 30-06 size, and it's one of the most widely available rifles after the AK.

>It shoots a bullet close to 30-06 size,

Um no.

for school shootings? any hunting rifle if you want a better kill count, any dog-exterminator attractor if you want to wound as many people as possible.

or just a bomb. technically a gun. just a faulty one.

The problem is you just can't fire it full auto acurately, if you want to take a large number of targets you need a smaller caliber full auto weapon.

Fine, nitpicker. 30-06 is 7.62×63mm, and FAL shoots NATO 7.62×51mm. The point is, it's a semi-auto high-capacity battle rifle that shoots a deadlier caliber than AR15.

Or a handgun, why would you wan't to use a rifle in a confined space?

I dunno, P90 I guess? It's higher capacity and faster firing rate than the AR15, and its rounds are armor-piercing.

But in the US it's almost impossible to get fully automatic guns. Most mass shootings are committed with semi-auto.

America is degenerate nation. Earths tumour

>There's no semi auto long gun that shoots 30-06 rapidly.
What is a Remington 740 for $1000 Alex?

>Living in a city makes you not retarded.

Ok retard.

almost posted that exact example in my OP
same ballistic properties

You can buy one today at Sportsmans Wharehouse. 30-06 semi auto BAR.
Not the OG BAR that would cost 30 grand to buy.

7.62x39 akm for example now that is some deadly shit. Leaves a huge fucking crater when you shoot someone.

I have an Obendorf Munitions Mauser in 30-06

My garand was a heavy sob but I smoked plenty of nips with it back on Saipan.

t. rural and suburban retard

Yeah but it had a small capacity magazine.

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One of these days some wild man if gonna take chainsaw to school and show the world how it's really done.

>There's no semi auto long gun that shoots 30-06 rapidly.
I'll take "M1 Garand" for all the shekels, Jim.

Anybody got links to the vid of him shooting through walls?

This round must be at least 50 cal.
Rite?

You know it's fake, only 17

that happened and videos exist?

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Yeah, the reasoning for choosing 5.56 is what you said, but the reasoning for using FMJ instead of HP ammo is to wound instead of kill. Hague Convention and all.

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looks like a .75 to me.

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Orlando
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Aurora
San Bernadino

>All done with AR15
I'm starting to think every time MSM starts crying about this gun and gun control;
It's probably another staged event.

M1 Garand, M1919, Browning Bar to name a few more.

I dont think this generation of kids have enough upper body strength to lift a loaded FAL.

.308 is a powerful round my uncle shot himself in the thigh with one and after 3 surgeries the motherfucker might lose his leg.

It does, and the 5.45x39mm which is the standard commie cartridge is even more deadly. 5.56 is more deadly than a .308 within its range of fragmentation, which is between 100-200 yards depending on the length of the barrel and velocity of the ammunition. Past the range where the round fragments it's basically a hot .22. The 5.56 designed to wound thing is a meme. It's a light cartridge, that's incredibly flat shooting, and it's devastating at close to medium range. You aren't going to reach out to 1000 plus yards with it effectively, but there's a reason why it's the world standard for a military cartridge.

you mus be a kid the "R" In 7.62X54r stands for rimmed that rim on the bottom of the case un like the 7.62x39 which is Sks and Ak 47 round or the 7.62X 25 which was a pistol round for the Torkerev pistol and some converted PPSH's
or the 7.62 Nagant for the Nagant revolver


learn a bit so you don't sound like a lib tard

>M1 Garand, M1919, Browning Bar to name a few more.
I was never into Semi autos at all. I prefer slide or lever action. I love my Remington 700, and when I saw the 740 series I fell in love. I keep meaning to get one. It is not legal to hunt with in my state, but w/e. Its a sharp looking gun, and if as good as a 700, I would be thrilled.

Wtf is this another meme flag or another flag for sweden

You're a moron, kill yourself asap

Uh the PPSH was designed around the 7.62x25 round.

>long rifle round
>thigh
Care to explain how this happened? Is your uncle 9 foot tall?

>All done with AR15
Because everyone cant stop talking about muh ARs and thats all the normies think guns are when there is so much other shit out there. But fuck competition, AR15 is the only gun and .223/5.56 is the only cartridge

I always assumed a semi-auto shotgun with a big mag like a saiga would be perfect for such work.

>ARs
They think AR stands for Assault Rifle. That is why. I can think of no other more logical reason, and this is even mental gymnastics.

so the story goes that he mounted an optic on his the rifle because it belonged to a friend and the guy i guess who has handled firearms for at least more than 10 years plus doesnt understand how to mount one. So after hes done tests the zeroing with a quick grouping when the motherfucker stole my laser bore sight. so he leaves it loaded puts it under the back seat of his truck and it just goes off. this is what his son tells me who is 9 and its like unbelievable too me because he went against everything he taught me when i got into owning a rifle.

City ppl also tend to be the softest and least emotionally well adjusted people.
Put your enemies through empathy hoops, toy with their mind, leave em unable to fight but crying in pain pleaing for aid.
There we go.

oh god stop it with your fucking faggotry. The energy of the round is meaningless if it doesn't hit it's target, and the 5.56 is designed for accuracy so that you hit your fucking target. As for lethality, no small arms are designed in such a way as to be dependably lethal when hitting a non-vital organ.

no one cares. If the military wanted to use JHP rounds they would, but there's a reason they don't. When shooting an unarmoured nigger who's broken into your house at 1am, JHP is better. In a war, FMJ is better. No soldier is going to want to use JHP rounds in an actual fire-fight. They won't penetrate cover and thin kevlar would stop them, forget about ceramic plates.

>what is remote wounding

To any new fags the .22lr if it's too hot a load would be overkill for a squirrel. A .223 would explode a squirrel. The only people who insist on muh large cartridges are the same who insist on muh sports car or muh hummer aka dicklets. Use whatever round you're comfortable with. That said the .223 is meant more for wounding which is what you want to do in war time. Bringing a full battle rifle to a school is a joke should bring a carbine.
HAHA JK FBI HAHA

shotgun with 00 would be better.
Nothing better in such an area, medium choke.
Not taht I would do anything.

Also in a war you want to wound instead of kill. If you kill them it takes very little effort on their part. If you wound them it take time and effort to stabilize and move him. You win wars through man hours and shit like that in my limited understanding.

>small arms

can you read, nigger? No small arms caliber is designed to kill upon impact of a non-vital organ. Do you understand my words or should I simplify them?

lol, no. If there was a magic bullet that instantly killed someone even if it hit their pinky finger, the military would use it.

Fucking leafs

>Not bird shotting the track team
haha i mean that's horrible but ya silly gunlets

Everything is vital. If I blow a fuck-huge hole in your hand good chance you will die.
Also hyper-sonic rifle rounds are small arms dipshit.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock_(firearms)

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>Doesn't know DoT is always superior to DD
LOL I dunno at this point this has been a long day what do we do now leaf?

wow you are a dumb nigger we had that item once we used it twice and royally fucked over the world.

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>bird shot
will just wound.
Buckshot at close range from the right angle will nearly sever the spine and strip away all the flesh off a man.
Probably blow a child in half.
Not that I have an interest.

got you senpai

no shit bird shot wounds its all about the spread not the power.

>wounding
No death is nice and final. Making people live and suffer is a meme.-

If you blow up my hand I will die? Are we talking in Somalia? Are we talking like getting hit with a musketball in 1545?? Are you retarded? Any first world military's combat medic equipment can deal with someone's hand getting blown off. Civilian paramedics and hospitals can easily deal with this as well. How do you get your understanding of the way things work in this world? What books do you read? You clearly have no idea how things work in the real world.

Also...hypersonic rifle round small arms? Oh god.... what are you calling hypersonic? The MP7, for example, fires high velocity rounds, but I certainly wouldn't call them hypersonic (and they aren't very lethal). Hypersonic is a term usually applied to aircraft and missiles that can achieve at least mach 3, but more often mach 5-6. Most rifle rounds already travel several times the speed of sound. So they're already hypersonic. You done?

>First I'll take your tendies.
>Next I'll take your waifu pillow
>Your fingers? I'll leave them so you can cry online about everything I took from you.

>>bird shot
>will just wound.
Yeah but wot if...
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i dont think you understand i man walked into a library on a college campus and shot a girl at less than 3 feet with birds hot and it barely broke the skin. theres no suffering from bird shot. the only reaction is a will ferral getting punched in the nose reaction.

>Are you retarded? Any first world military's combat medic equipment can deal with someone's hand getting blown off. Civilian paramedics and hospitals can easily deal with this as well. How do you get your understanding of the way things work in this world?

>people dont go into shock
>people dont bleed out ever in first world countries

>getting shot in brain and dying instantly
>getting shot in hand and slowly bleeding out because no one could help you and you die 1 hour later

yeah, these are totally the same thing.

Thats what Im getting at. My steelshot doesnt even always get geese. I wish I could use lead to hunt waterfowl.

>1 hour
5 minutes maybe 10 if you can slow it.
If I shoot you in the legs you will die within 1 minute if I hit an artery.

dont spread bs about a cartridge its bad enough with the kib loonies out there. but im glad i went with an m1

>bomb
>technically a gun
No

Buster Keaton Nooooooo!

i posted above my uncle shot himself in the leg it stuck the femoral artery. he survived for longer than 1 minute just now after 3 surgeries they think the damage is sever and they will have to amputate.

>Drumphf handing out tax gibs

Yes let's all jump on the anti gun wagon as part of a "plan" libshits trying to be clever everybody

Im assuming you managed to halt the bleeding or that the projectile worked to deal the wound?
Otherwise he would be dead as fuck senpai.

15-5=10

AR10 would be the controllable, preferred alternative. 100lb teen isn't gonna lug a BAR around too well.

why are you still arguing? Are small arms calibers designed to kill upon impact of anywhere on the body? No. Of all the times people are hit with a bullet, what percentage of those impacts are fatal? 10%? 5%? I'm right. You're wrong.

Yer cant hunt wif a AR15

>not using meme ammunition

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