Why isn't "Horror" a popular anime genre?

Why isn't "Horror" a popular anime genre?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

because it's hard to make a cartoon scary and the anime industry is lazy as fuck

It's hard to get scared of something in a chinese cartoon, best they could do would be ambient horror but that would actually take effort or jumpscares which gets pretty cheap the more you use them.

Live action horror tends to be popular because it's cheap to make

In prose form, it's popular because people have a fascination with fucked up shit

Animation is incredibly cost ineffective so you either gotta milk the niche market (otaku) or go for broad appeal

Besides, all the most successful "horror" is horror hybrids, like action/horror Resident Evil or comedy/horror like Ghostbusters or even fantasy and sci-fi horror like Berserk or the Aliens movies

But there's been plenty of scary VNs. If still art can be scary, why can''t art in motion?

horror derives from being relatable and seemingly real. 2D is neither.

Does SnK count?

because it's more fun to watch shows about gay school girls

I dunno.

But SnK isn't scary.

isn't jigoku shoujo running this season or some shit?

Horror elements can work in certain anime. I'm still waiting for my 'First day on the job, shits gone terribly wrong' cop anime.

just watch the Higurashi anime. It threw all the suspence and exposition, which were the highlights of the original VN, and made it just "cute girls killing each other".

Horror is basically fantasy that makes you feel scared. You could argue that crime novels about fucked up shit, or works that deal with how reality sucks are pretty scary, but none of those where made as "horror". Horror is supposed to be visceral and/or "not real". That's why it's a genre.

Ghost Hunt had a part that was pretty damn creepy. If only more of it was like that.

Japanese live in a horror story every day, why would they want to watch one?

this is true, they exist only to be slaves to japo corporations and then inevitably hang themselves in their literal forests of suicide, also most don't even make it to adulthood since pretty much all of them that arn't the top 1% of their class either go full NEET or Suicided or they end up living an IRL horror story themselves before getting murdered or some shit.
being japanese is suffering.

Because unless you want to put a lot of money into your project, you're going to get cookie cutter lifeless animu character designs, settings, and sensibilities.

fucking crybabies, they live in one the most developed countries in the world and they whine because "wahh society is mean". If they really hate it they should either man up and stick it to their bosses or just get out. It's not like they won't be recieved by other countries. Quite the opposite in fact, since they are not latinos or muslims.

it doesn't sell

because it all falls apart horribly

>defiled Megumegu
I'll never get over it

Horror has to have the "this could happen to you" element, which is especially hard to pull off in animation. Slasher and zombie flicks are especially ill-suited.
Surreality works better. They could probably get some decent ideas by ripping off Twilight Zone episodes.

totally why nips are all kids and just a handful of adults over there

>If they really hate it they should either man up and stick it to their bosses

What? So they can never have job stability ever again?

That's the kind of shit they pull over there.

>But there's been plenty of scary VNs
Name one

Cause the horror anime/manga I read usually turns into shounenshit as the story progresses, thus ruining its intended effect.

No there haven't

Because no matter how hard they try, shit turns out like another or that recent one with the bus full of people

When this picture came out, it was being posted 50 times an hour on Sup Forums and it became an insta-ban.

Just look at their faces, contorted with pain and suffering.

Holy shit, I never realized there are hardly any cop anime out there.

Reminder
youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

Pfff, look at all this Africans. All happy and shit. Nothing wrong must be happening there!

Wait a second that balloon...

Either a very small balloon or a very massive niggress.

Or maybe objects look smaller the further away they are from the observer...

Hmmm.

o lawd
I couldn't finish watching that.

Retire already, old man.

>Horror has to have the "this could happen to you" element
No it doesn't. It only requires immersion.

Saya no Uta

The bitch on the left was pretty fucking terrifying.

DELTA P

Though once you learn what's actually happening, it becomes more of a thriller and not exactly horror

I found it more depressing than scary. Sure, the theme is scary, but the actual plot is more tragic than anything.

Horror in general takes talent, that's why.

Because it's usually done poorly and terribly, plus the jump scares are cheap.

Are you 10?

Made in Abyss is popular right now

Because most are shit. Ether everyone has amnesia or it's incredibly intense sadism that has no chance in hell of ever getting adapted.

Also the horror ends up being in the background of some shitty drama harem between the protagonists who are usually really unlikable or just generic as shit.

What the fuck is that?

Does anyone, as an adult, actually expect horror to be *scary*? I know that I don't. Almost nothing fictional is capable of scaring me. But that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy horror, or that I don't think that any of it is good. There are other things that it can provide.

My nigga.

Lovecraftian anime when?

MiA is hardly horror.
It'll have some fucked up suffering shit in a few episodes, but it isn't scary.

Madoka was pretty Lovecraftian, but it wasn't horror.

I find it funny that japs in pop culture understand the idea behind cosmic horror better than americans, who only use the "lel tentacles and shit" trite.

I hate horror, what kind of edgy faggot wants to watch scary things? Who likes seeing suffering and death?

Anything can be horror if you think about it too much

>murrikans in charge of not being dumb
>ever

It's more psychological horror once the initial shock value of the gore wears off, which admittedly doesn't take long. I liked it a lot more than I like most horror stuff, since the focus was more on the plot than just trying to scare you.
What didn't you like about it?
It's actually my favorite VN, I should reread it sometime.

Because idiots conflate horror with blood and guts. The best "horror" movies have little to no violence. Building a scary atmosphere or sense of dread works a thousand times better. The Ring was the scariest movie I ever saw as a teen and that had almost no blood or gore. Sure it had some cheap jump scares but most of the scares were created with great tension building and creepy imagery. It can be done but good horror takes true creativity and a bit of a twisted personality and sadly those are rare combinations.

Eh, Madoka doesn't really count, despite some slight similarities.
American's haven't fared too well at it either in tv/cinema but have had some decent stuff in board games and one video game.

delet this.

...

You know, Higurashi does mess with your head. I knew the usoda scene was coming and it still scared the shit out of me. It was mostly the eyes.

Nyarlko exists.

...

>What didn't you like about it?
It's not that I didn't like it, it's just not scary.
It's basically the same level as Dividead, and at least that had ghost blowjobs.

But I mean something actually lovecraftian, not something that just borrowed 2 elements and called it a day.

The first volume was great, but I didn't like the second as much. Do they get better after that?

The picture isn't scary but my face feels itchy and it's disgusting

Someone post the webm of this.

Jesus fucking Christ, why does this pic just make my body itch?

Even the best horror anime and still not great. It is either a hard genre or the nips just suck at it.

I liked the third the most, where it starts to get into the broader story and mindfuckery

I usually not into horror stuff, and I scare easily, so that could be why I thought it was worse than it is. I liked it more for the plot than the horror anyways.

Comparing the Corpse Party anime to the Corpse Party game is a prime example of this. The game is capable of both creating a tense and oppressive atmosphere as well as putting dead people everywhere. The anime is just cheap blood and guts.

I've actually had that one downloaded for a while now, but just never got around to it. I'll have to give it a shot once I finish up what I'm playing now.

I want an anime that goes for horror in a different way. Gore and jump scares are not enough. I want to be freaked out.

Like, imagine a normal anime about cute girls doing cute things. Then suddenly on chapter 3 the protagonist just looks at the screen with a thousand yard stare and starts mumbling "help me help me help me" for 5 minutes straight. After that the episode continues like always and the next one too. Imagine the fucking shitstorm fans would make.

Or pulling some medium blending and making appear a real white horror face out of nowhere. Have some shadows always following the protagonists on the background. Shit like that, without any explanation or effort.

Trypophobia is a bitch.

The average anime artstyle is terrible at looking scary. Only a few selected mangaka have a style that looks unsettling.

I didn't know I had this phobia

Literally the only "Good" horror anime is mononoke and it isn't even scary.

Yeah why isn't it popular? I really wonder hmm, why don't people like this?

What am I looking at?

Shiki was a decent horror anime. Hairstyles ruined immersion a little bit.

Horror is a normie genre

Yeah no, that sounds like something you'd hear in a boring creepypasta.

>Have some shadows always following the protagonists on the background.
I liked the early parts of the Higurashi VN, where MC occasionally hears a second set of footsteps behind his even though nothing is around, right before weird things happen.
To me, the best way to do horror is subtle mystery, not being in your face with something that doesn't really make sense.

Well the problem is that if it is too subtle it loses all the charm. I want it to be noticeable enough to scare people or make them think ("did this just really happened?"). Things like foosteps work perfectly in 3d but in anime i dont feel they are as scary.

Are you implying there's not a lot of successful anime that are normie garbage too? If anything that would only give people more reason to make horror anime since the audience is bigger.

What happens when you attempt to use uninitialized arrays.

This is actually a really good point which answers OP perfectly, and it's ignored in favour of "cartons cant b scary???" Never change, Sup Forums.

Because horror is a shit genre.

the problem if you've actually read lovecrafts works is that even most lovecraftian content deviates from the themes that should make it lovecraftian. to hope something on the other side of the world would actually get it right is unlikely.

This is strikes me as correct, but to add to that it's more popular in literature because the author can just offload the problem of making things scary to the reader's imagination so they only have to handle the ideas and pacing. With visual works you need to have someone with real artistic vision to even have a chance of making something really good(this is partially why manga has successful horror series which rarely ever cross over to anime). On top of that there's all the other normal stumbling blocks like direction and writing quality. Once you have those sorts of limitations on top of being budget starved in an expensive medium like anime there's practically no reasonable way to do horror, let alone good horror.

That said I may just be biased, as I've never found almost any horror outside of literature to be very good.

Eh, in Madoka the whole story revolved around humans being somewhat important, even if it was only to a race of sociopathic magic talking wish cats/ovaries. A key part of lovecraft/cosmic whatever in my mind was always human's relative unimportance in the scheme of things, and when some human bumps up against the edges of the unknown horrors and starts raving like a loon it's more because whatever they bumped into swatted at them like a horse flicks it's tail at biting flies or violated their whole conception of self in relation to the universe, rather than because they are worth noting.

Thanks for the laugh

nhk ni yo-

Because it usually turns into comedy.

This, Another was a 10/10 comedy and nothing else.

Cause it won't sell unless it's a survival game format, Ousama Game is getting an anime.

Ever since Murricunts decided that jump scares and gore porn are horror, there hasn't really been many good western horror works either.