Telescreens >constant propaganda, as well as spying, smart TVs essentially Shit consumables >bad coffee, cigarettes, food, etc. everything watered down and shitty Thought Crime >UK polis now arresting bongs for tweets Doublethink >feminism means speak out against rape >but not if the perpetrator isn't white, how dare u
but wait, there's more!
Constant Proxy Warfare >Eastasia, Eurasia, Oceania >Russia, Mideast, US Two Minutes Hate >wat is pol
and on and on and on
War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength
yes, I unironically wouldn't mind if Trump was in all of our screens watching us making sure we weren't degenerates
Ethan Fisher
Orwell was a socialist and 1984 is a fictional account of not real spcialism
Noah Carter
It was ok. I preferred animal farm, even though it was more of a short story. I feel Brave New World was better at predicting the future.
Ryder Mitchell
its even worse than that OP. this is 1984 (thought crime, doublethink, newspeak etc) with the worst elements of brave new world (sexual degeneracy, constant barrage of information, rampant drug use) mixed in
Mason Wright
What an insightful lad the OP is. Fuck right off to high school, faggot.
Nathaniel Perry
Yes, I’ve read it many times. It’s fucking crazy how it’s slowly coming true.
Dominic Ward
1984 was literally guide
Jaxson Reed
big brother is pol. this is how the world would look like if pol ruled it. the author was a communist.
I agree he didnt mention christconciousness or the archons even once... its like 2009 Sup Forums not 2018 Sup Forums
Brody Edwards
2+2 is Common Core
Joshua Bell
why would Sup Forums want a 3rd world standard of living?
Wyatt Phillips
Why do hookers let me bust a hot one in their mouth?
Ryan Walker
Is it wrong that I feel the same way? Orwell was a proponent of socialism; is a degeneracy-free society the socialist nightmare? Was true freedom a mistake?
Austin Ramirez
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Austin Roberts
I would argue it is not, the principle behind 1984 was limiting information and encouraging hatred of an unmet enemy, and blaming said enemy on lack of luxury/freedom. While they are encouraging hatred of an unmet enemy, I feel Brave new world is more accurate.
>Excessive consumption of luxuries. >Excessive and continuous production of new luxuries. >Removing the idea of individual accomplishments in society. >Destruction of individual personal relationships, both romantic and otherwise. >Encouragement of promiscuity. >Drugs to keep the populous calm. >Stratification of population into clearly segregated classes, but each class gets it's own excessive luxuries. >Lowest class most dependent on drugs to function. >Amusement and ridicule of people who live as humans should.
Charles Baker
I don't know, but you do have issues.
There are very seldom reports of mass or multiple school shootings during the first three decades of the 20th Century, with the three most violent attacks on schools involving either arson or explosions.
February 26, 1902 Camargo, Illinois teacher Fletcher R. Barnett shot and killed another teacher, Eva C. Wiseman, in front of her class at a school near Camargo, Illinois. After shooting at a pupil who came to help Miss Wiseman and wounding himself in a failed suicide attempt he waited in the classroom until a group of farmers came to lynch him. He then ran out of the school building, grabbed a shotgun from one of the farmers and shot himself, before running away and leaping into a well where he finally drowned. The incident was likely sparked by Wiseman's refusal to marry Barnett. February 24, 1903 Inman, South Carolina Edward Foster, a 17-year-old student at Inman High school, was shot and fatally wounded by his teacher Reuben Pitts after he had jerked a rod from Pitts' hands to resist punishment. According to the teacher, Foster struck the pistol Pitts had drawn to defend himself, thus causing its discharge. Pitts was later acquitted of murder. October 10, 1906 Cleveland, Ohio Harry Smith shot and killed 22-year-old teacher Mary Shepard at South Euclid School after she had rejected him. Smith escaped and committed suicide in a barn near his home two hours later. March 23, 1907 Carmi, Illinois George Nicholson shot and killed John Kurd at a schoolhouse outside of Carmi, Illinois during a school rehearsal. The motive for the shooting was Kurd making a disparaging remark about Nicholson's daughter during her recital. March 11, 1908 Boston, Massachusetts Elizabeth Bailey Hardee was shot to death by Sarah Chamberlain Weed at the Laurens School, a finishing school in Boston. Weed then turned the gun on herself and committed suicide.
Cooper Lewis
orwell was a socialist
Luke Robinson
He also liked to finger young guys assholes.
Matthew Roberts
pol values strength (through military) and sexual abstinence higher than the standard of living. just like big brother. all the money goes to the military and the population is terrorized constantly into submission. everything is degenerate in big brother's world.
Eli Wright
It's a lovely mix of fusing the elements of control in 1984 with the strategy of Brave New World.
I'll prove it now: Why improve or seek to solve problems if short personal satisfaction is readily if not promoted in every aspect of society.
Josiah Morris
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Levi Hall
Yeah, I feel people get too hung up on 1984, but I would say our reality/future is looking to be a strange mixture, both Orwellian and Huxlian.
Thomas Bell
Sup Forums is like 4 hours hate, two minutes hate is colberts opening monologue
Josiah Nelson
The Virgin 1984 vs The Chad Brave New World
Sebastian Gray
lower classes are in 1984, upper classes are in brave new world
Josiah Adams
>HuRruRRp I wanna live in a shithole police state cuz peepul I h8 do things I don't like >Freedom was a mistake! >BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP This...this is some record shit. I mean even for Sup Forums.
Blake Campbell
Didn't so much intend to spark a /lit/ debate.
I guess what I'm saying is, regardless of which book modern society more closely resembles, it seems it might already be too late. It seems old Ted may have been right in that, the only hope for humanity at this point is a total collapse.
I'm afraid we crossed the point of no return many years ago without realizing. and, liek, fucking wat do
Ryder Gomez
We already live in a fucking prison. If we can't break out, we demand a better jailer.
Mason Parker
16
Liam Cruz
an ethno state where degeneracy is extinct and everyone is forced to work out and be healthy with 100% employment for all party members is Larping?
plebbit please go
The only person I would trust to take command of our 1984 Nationalist state is Trump
You must be 18 or older to use this site, kiddo. Sleep tight.
Nicholas Cox
Our adherence to the screen overwhelms all pharmaceuticals. 1984 is the life we choose.
Nicholas Smith
> if we can't break out NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE CUNT!
Jose Sanchez
fucking remove me from this earth already
Kevin Rogers
I'm not sure if our flag is the best or the worst example of getting out of prison.
Lincoln Foster
what kind of revolution can the common man bring against a nuclear power?
Isaiah Turner
2×2 then left to right. Division and multiplication have the same weight. You don't distribute the 5 to the parenthesis. Kiddo.
Anthony Nelson
The old way is 16, common core is 1.
t.teacherfag.
Juan Foster
NIG
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PEMDAS
Parentheses first, so 4
then Multiplication, so 5 × 4 = 20
THEN division, so 1
We fucking agreed to follow the same order of steps GENERATIONS AGO so that we could do math in any time and place and reach the same conclusions
it should be as obvious as saying ONE DOES NOT EQUAL SIXTEEN
what the fuck is wrong with you
you're saying you're down with common core? common core's aight witchu?uhh, no. no it isn't.
Henry Foster
No you don't read math like literature left to right. You follow the order of operations. Yes, multiplication has the same weight as division. However, if a conflict occurs, PEMDAS shows multiplication comes first then division. The 5*4 is in denominator, so you multiply first.
Wyatt Hughes
>Living comfortably is bad
We are living in a mix of both. We're living as if it's ok to pay taxes and have government take care of you and live lush but at the same time the majority is slowly falling into a lower class deprived of Rights.
Elijah Johnson
>then division You're a fucking mongoloid
Jackson Cook
PEMDAS is grouped like PE, MD, AS. PE has priority over MD and MD has priority over AS. stop being a nigger and learn how to math
t. engineer
Gavin Garcia
I'm sorry the education system failed you.
Samuel Cook
Also an engineer. I am the electrical variety. What are you?
Joshua Anderson
Another way to validate is to create equivalent expressions and evalue:
>20/5*4 = 20/5 * 1/4 = 4 * 1/4 = 1 or we can try >20/5*4 = 1/5 * 20/4 = 1/5 * 5 = 1 or perhaps: >20/5*4 = 20/1 * 1/5 * 1/4 = 1
Is there any way you can rewrite the original expression to equal 16? This seems more like those math trolls where people divide by zero except here it's division.
Carter Thompson
you guise are right 16 = 1 case closed
Andrew Foster
>an ethno state where degeneracy is extinct and everyone is forced to work out and be healthy with 100% employment for all party members Yes yes, you can't wait to be under the watchful loving eyes of Big Brother, because tyranny is A-OK when it's only happening to whites. kys.
Tyler Wood
>Orwell was a proponent of socialism
Young and middle aged, yes. The older man who wrote 1984? Not so much at all.
Luke Brooks
brave new world was correct in everything , the suspension of marriage for more liberal sexual activities ,the use soma aka marihuana ......
Ethan Morales
>Are we already living the nightmare, lads? It's so much worse than what Orwell wrote
Kevin Gonzalez
People seem to have the impression that propaganda only comes as a stern, overbearing personality and bold stylized lettering instead of the more insidious friendly face on late night TV.
Logan Campbell
>Muh Freedom where has it left us? our wives, and daughters are becoming property of Jamal on a nightly basis, we're scared to walk our own streets and must literally pay to keep "PoC" happy, 3rd world shitters come in droves and take all of our jobs and destroy our communities. If you don't believe we need a strong leader like Trump with infinite judicial and executive power you're delusional
Jaxon Fisher
>no proof
Blake Gutierrez
Trump is not, nor will he ever be the philosopher-king you think he is. A step in the right direction, and a staple of national protectionism maybe, but not worthy of the full power of the state.
Julian Bell
t.reddit
Michael Johnson
Such a stuff cannot last, when you only have destroyers and not builders its time up.
Luis Barnes
so many anti Trump shills tonight. wtf is going on with Sup Forums?
Evan King
1984 got all of his ideas from Revelations in the Bible. He just modernized the warnings.
Luke Anderson
You cant be serious, the guy is nowhere near the level he needs to be to pull the US out of this. No man currently invloved in the quagmire that is the American state is the one we want holding all the cards. The ones cleaning out the swamp have their jobs, clean it. And the ones whose job is to lead, will lead. Trumo is not one of those men, he is there to clear the way if anything.
The modern state of 56% education. Thank god I was a homeschool fag.
Evan Collins
I am genuinely curious now where you fags organize. Is it a forum? A discord? IRL lol?
Samuel Sullivan
I'm glad that you have your finger on the pulse of the imageboard and are prepared to elaborate on its opinions.
Sebastian Brooks
Orwell was one of the smartest goys in existence. He predicted EVERYTHING. Western democracy is truly dead.
Thomas Cook
>telescreens Pic related was entirely about the influence of television on the mass majority. Everyone brings up 451 because “MUH CENSORSHIP!!1!” but Bradbury himself once clarified that it was more about media influence on the general consensus.
Hudson Ortiz
1984 is a great book, but I really don't get why people keep referring to it when criticizing the modern world. There are much creepier books when it comes to relating to our reality. The Brave New World was way more accurate, and it was written in the 1950s. Fahrenheit 451 was also pretty accurate when it comes to technology and isolation. Orwell was a smart man, but his thinking was much more restrained by the zeitgeist than that of Huxley and Bradbury.
Leo Nelson
>you are experiencing the second wave of communism before totalitarianism.
Brandon Fisher
Brittbongs are living right in Orwell 1984.
Levi Garcia
Can you remind me of who that artist is? I remember his shit from deviantArt, but I forgot the name.
Robert Russell
Honestly no single work best describes the route our world is taking. 1984 really does predict the state surveillance network, the concept of changing language to try to extinguish rebellion, and the use of forced ideologies to keep people dumb and misdirected, while A Brave New World really does highlight how hardcore the modern bread and circuses have become, while Fahrenheit 451 relates to the destruction of culture and history to keep a society molded how the powers that be want it.
Easton Hughes
>our wives, and daughters are becoming property of Jamal on a nightly basis, You...actually believe this horseshit, don't you?
Yeah you're insane. In his 13 months in office that man has done exactly 3 things right: 1. axed the TPP, 2. laid down the law to the Chicoms on their economic theft and 3. called out businesses on their overseas tax dodging and job outsourcing. He's also refused to go after businesses for actually HIRING illegals, instead pushing for a hugely expensive and unnecessary border wall, stuffed his cabinet with billionaires, opened up our National Parks for economic exploitation and passed a budget-breaking tax cut for the 0.0000000000000001% while proposing utterly ridiculous and unneeded military expenditures to be paid for on the backs of the poorest and most vulnerable of our citizens. It's Reagan's trickle-down bullshit on coke and steroids. At least in the foreign policy sphere he's hanging tough on North Korea and standing with Israel, so he's not a total fuckup.
Lincoln Martinez
The progression is, in this order, Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green, Brave New World, 1984, We.
Then like the creatures upon the Mote in Gods Eyes, we will collapse and begin the cycle anew
Josiah Jenkins
God hates communists.
Levi Richardson
Damn I totally forgot all about Newspeak. I really should revisit these books. You're totally right.
Elijah Lopez
>across the board tax cuts are bad They cant cut spending and they dont want to cut spending, but Id rather they do one right thing and one wrong things than two wrong things simply because they cant do everything.
Adrian Clark
Cutting taxes - income - while increasing spending - debt - is always wrong, and irresponsible, and if it goes on long enough will utterly destroy the economy.
Isaiah Butler
People have always been shitty, OP. This is just the modern kind of shitty. Here's hoping it's the shitty that kills us all.
Benjamin Lee
>whats bad for government is bad for us I disagree, the poor governments are easier to evict. Also they'll have to cut spending anyway all we have to do is avoid giving in to communism between now and then. Then you can just nationalize the debt and sell it like Hitler and Hamilton which can then be used to fuel American industry.
David Hill
>it's another doing math on Sup Forums episode
Hey, it's saying both methodologies are legitimate, not that the answers themselves are equivalent. Even the most anti Common Core people don't think this is teaching kids that 1 == 16 you willfully ignorant faggot
Liam Allen
>9gag
Noah Martin
the notation is ambiguous. It could be 20 over 5(2x2) or it could be parantheses and then left to right, which is 16. Troglodyte.
Ian Smith
Surreal
Hunter Murphy
Thats a terrifying thought. Id take brave new world over 1984 any day of the week.
Id enjoy being content desu
Joshua Wright
Read Brave New World for fucks sake. Socialist or not, Orwell was a great author and 1984 is a great novel but Huxley was so much more on the money.
Almost makes you wonder (((who))) could be pushing 1984 to make people think they have problems that don't exist instead of Brave New World which is a much better critique of the direction of modern western society.