Venezuelan migrant crisis

Border between Brazil and Venezuela right now, and these are just the people trying to enter legally after crossing a jungle.
Why don't Europeans and burgers take some of them?

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infobae.com/politica/2018/02/16/el-gobierno-oficializo-la-flexibilizacion-del-tramite-de-residencia-para-ciudadanos-venezolanos/
zonaprop.com.ar/propiedades/2-dorm.-de-calidad-y-equipado.-zona-centro.-43062170.html
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youtube.com/watch?v=LBQv-Wi__Uk
youtube.com/watch?v=jwhBEjDTgNY
youtube.com/watch?v=rVLOQB5kGGw&t=1435s
rtp.pt/noticias/pais/portugal-ja-acolhe-milhares-vindos-da-venezuela_v1052799
haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-grudgingly-agrees-to-allow-venezuelan-converts-entry-1.5492571
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>Why don't Europeans and burgers take some of them

We must do our part
brookings.edu/opinions/venezuelas-refugee-crisis-will-exceed-syrias-we-must-help/

sorry monkey man they're all yours

Fuck off memeflag we’re full

Your countries have a similar culture, they'll assimilate quickly

So does yours btw. Both wuz romans and are he poor guys in it's region

Haha nothing epitomizes a jew kvetching more than an EU flag poster.

Funny that we, the territories of the United Provinces, the Argentine Confederation, were the places in which civil war, Indian raids and wars with neighbors were the usual.
Brazil was peaceful and we were the sick man of South America. Constant war since 1810s up until the 1870s and some minor battle still in 1880s. Look at us, now receiving the people from the "jewel" of the continent.
And now, the sons of "The Great Liberator Bolivar" are the shame of the continent.
Colombia was always violent, don't include them here, and they are doing somewhat well now.
But Venezuelans are not only ultra nationalists, but they have always hated every one of their neighbors and even the southern cone countries.
I say let them suffer, we already got about 30.000 Venezuelans as refugees. Why? they always thought themselves better than us and despised us.
They had a huge country, full of resources and they just ruined it, and now they aim for our country...

Kill em all

South America is the continent of wasted potential. And it's all thanks to race-mixing.

Sorry kike.. our government is run by white supremacists now. They'll be genocided

We already have enough Mexicans and Guatemalans.

sale conquista 2.0???
asi erradicariamos las tomas.....

>ultra nationalists
Is that bad?

Mexicans and Guatemalans are just larping, they're fakefugees

Not only them
Argentinians are sometimes pretty dumb when comes to patriotism (i'am argentinian) also they tend to hate british people because of the Falklands War.

Not at all. But they now come like wet puppies crying for gibs and compassion when historically they were incredibly proud people.
They put Chavez in power, they CHOSE their fate and now they ask for a chance to ruin our countries.

If patriotic Venezuelans did this to their country, what are they going to do to ours?

Can't do worse than the natives tbqh

honestly this, my grandparents use to hate everyone around venezuela. colombians were violent, brazilians monkeys, argies pride morrons.
the venezuelan golden age was taked down by cuban commies pretty much since the 60s and now we become the biggest shithole in SA. karma is a bitch, i guess
>t. Venezuelan
no worries argie bro, im planning to leave in the next year or two

Where you going?

lewd ID

KEK!
I love this kind of argument, meanwhile in real life we MILLIONS of migrants living here, in fact we don't even know how many because the last government said it was racists to ask them for origins.
But the fact remains that all of Latin America wants to live here, we don't call them, we don't need them and never did.

Even Chileans want to live here, we have about 200.000 of them living here, and mostly they only come to study for free and then go back to Chile.

infobae.com/politica/2018/02/16/el-gobierno-oficializo-la-flexibilizacion-del-tramite-de-residencia-para-ciudadanos-venezolanos/

>crying for gibs
i havent met a single venezuelan in argieland jobless and asking for gibs, unlike argies..
spain or germany since i have family there

That pic is how I imagine the 3rd world: Tropical, some desert/green and hoards of brown people

LMAO meanwhile this is my street

Thank god my dad spread his white seed so I can enjoy being the master of the world

So who's passing where?

Look mi negro I have not beef with people like you. I'll be ok with letting about 10.000 total immigrants get here every year, using a vetting system to assure they are honest and educated people.
But to let hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans straight from the gate of hell that your country is right now, NOPE.

We are simply not guilty of anything happening there, and we have unemployment, not lack of workers.
We were a violent shithole full of dictators, pic related, But we managed to sort ourselves out and now we have far too many problems to help every single one of you guys, sorry.

We reached a point we don't care about any migrants
Just come in

You aren't the master of anything lmao. Take pride in your own accomplishments.

Doesn't matter, our society still holds together better than any niggerdome.

Let them in, Bigots!

Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world.

However, the typical way to do business with PDVSA involved major bribes to people involved.
The Petrobras scandal is a drop in the ocean compared to how PDVSA operates.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chavez estate has wealth rivaling the Saudi royal family hidden in some Swiss bank account. They definitely took a larger cut out of every deal.

Because we have less Venezuelans that enough to fill the stadium of Ferro.
Wait until the "poor persecuted people" start to flood us, they will not be doctors and bar owners, they will be pic related, and their sons will be Argies and vote the same policies that got their beautiful country ruined.

source?
also fuck off we're full

This. I've actually met Christmas in Florida and Santo Domingo. They blame it on "economic warfare".

If (((they))) want us to take the blame for shit our ancestors did, we'll also take pride in shit our ancestors did. It goes both ways user.

*chavistas

That's kangz mentality. You can take pride when you've actually done something to further Western civilization and your nation. Otherwise all you get are a bunch of entitled neets with 0 accomplishments.

>But to let hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans
most of venezuelans who come here are ok tier since the average fabela tier venezuelan cant pay for 600usd plane ticket, those are going mostly colombia and brazil.
>using a vetting system to assure they are honest and educated people.
well by 2015 (dont know about the numbers right now) 88% of venezuelan migra had college degree
>We are simply not guilty of anything happening there
true
>we have unemployment, not lack of workers.
wrong, theresfucking tons of work in BA only, but most of argies are too confy and lazy to take a full time job unless its a blue collar job. it literally took me 3 days to find a job here, been here for almost 6 months and as long i have a place to stay and food in the fridge im ok

>phoneposting
Yep, just like Paraguayans blame a 150 years old war for their constant shitholeness.

It is always the same
>Argies are lazy
>Argies are scum
>Argies don't know how to work
>Argies have no culture
>Argies are hated by everyone in Lat Am.
And then they want to come by the millions to live here with us...
Buenos Aires was one of the smalles and shittiest cities of the Colonial Empire. Bolivia and Peru were incedibly richer with their minerals and hundreds of years of focus by the Crown in making them the center of the colonial economy.
Only criminals, cattle herders, smugglers and some Creoles lived here. And we fought our way to the top, and now we must feel guilty for it? Indians still raided our towns in 1880s for fucks sake!
Venezuela is one of the most gifted places one earth, they could live of oil and tourism alone. It is the people that are guilty, not us, not the "global conspiracy".

Send them to the Middle East to colonize, spread Christianity and cuck the Arabs

If we can exchange som muslims for them, sure. But you gotta take some to get rid of some....

are there a lot of muslims in Norway?

>but most of argies are too confy and lazy to take a full time job
Even if that's true, then how do importing 1.000.000 low skill workers would help us?
>they are not millions and not low skill
Fine, why would we need to import 50.000 more college degree workers if we can produce them ourselves?
How is it good for us to lower the price of college degree workers even more when we have 47 public universities than could produce them instead?

And again, Argies today are victims of decades of brainwashing from Leftists policies. We are not lazy by nature, if that was the fact, YOU would be in your country taking Argie refugees.
You can live here, I don't care, but we don't need you and that is fact. We are ok alone, we have always been.

Why the fuck should we take these spics? Fuck off shlomo and take them in Western Europe. There is no sympaty for communists here.

And I don't want to sound like a deranged nationalist because I'm not.
If we were to have this conversation face to face you would understand my points maybe easier.
I'm just sick of the meme that we are literal scum and worthless while all of the continent wants to live here.

I would rather send aid then let more people in.
Find the couple of people that are skilled. Tell the rest they have to go back.

>Fine, why would we need to import 50.000 more college degree workers if we can produce them ourselves?
becuse those 50k you are producing spect to get a blue collar job the same day they just graduate, and they rather to be jobless on streets asking for gibs insted of work whatever the pay WHILE they keep searching for a better job.
>I'm just sick of the meme that we are literal scum and worthless while all of the continent wants to live here.
you are right on this. in fact ever since im here even tho most of the population is lazy or stupid at least i could say most of the argies i've meet are kind people and not the tipical morron image the whole world as painted as.
now if you excuse me i have to leave my workplace now and move to my 2nd job today.

You can crash in Canada though.

Maybe they shouldn't have voted for fucking commies

Some yes.

Good luck mamahuevo marico no joda!
It is true that our human quality has been going down and down, I juts think we can solve it ourselves.

Their elections were rigged tho

Why not? Some, I assume, are decent people.

thank god my grandpa escaped from that shithole

where's their version of Pinochet?

No shit, commies always rig their elections. That's not to say they couldn't have stopped them from getting into power in the first place.
And remove that memeflag, faggot.

>Why the fuck should we take these spics?
well, the same way your guys are a plague in Spain

> Pic related
> El lovecraft del norte

Oh dios mio.

We'll take the big titted good cooking women

>i havent met a single venezuelan in argieland jobless and asking for gibs, unlike argies..

Calling Jhonies and Jessis """"argies"""" is like calling a chain migration Somali a anglo-american burguer.

> And I don't want to sound like a deranged nationalist because I'm not.

I am. We are full, so fuck off.

Commies get the bullet first.
Liberals get the bullet too.

We need nationalism and we need it now.

Yep this also. I don't deny we have our share of names to be purged.
But since 1995 the constant migrations from Paraguay, Bolivia and Peru have changed our demographics so much.
This giant slum called Villa 1-11-14 (union of three formerly separated slums) is about 60% foreign inhabitants, and many of those "atives" are juts their kids that got citizenship.

Negro please. Alberdi was 1000 times more of a nationalist than you or any other pseudo facho peronista. And he hated darkies as well.

I like some things of the historic peronism i'm not going to lie. The country is splited in half between peronist and anti-peronist ideologies when the real problem is nationalism vs internationalism.

The peronist is infected by commies and the liberals are infected by international judendom aka (((globalization))).

We need to cut with the bullshit and create a national front.
We need to pull the mask and call the things by their name (without going larpi natsoc territory). The real problem are internationalists (left) and globalists (right).

>taking in socialists
They are worse than Muslims. Burn every single one of them

>The peronist is infected by commies and the liberals are infected by international judendom aka (((globalization))).
Well, you seem not to be a total normie by saying that.

But the final division is between people like me who likes small government and individual freedom vs people who like forced taxation and obedience to a leader.

How much money would it cost an average American to move to Argentina? Would they need to know Spanish?

We need maids, no problem....I love Venezuelan maids :)

about 2 grand a month and YES, you need to learn spanish

>Would they need to know Spanish
Yes, like 90% of the people would not understand you, also Spanish is easy as fuck, come on user!
By now the USD= 20 ARS (pesos) so about 20.000 dollars would rent you a decent flat like pic related for 2 years in many big cities.
zonaprop.com.ar/propiedades/2-dorm.-de-calidad-y-equipado.-zona-centro.-43062170.html

And the cost of living depends on what you want to do, if you get a job right away then good, if not get about 5.000 dollars to last 3 or 4 months.

they don't want amerilards there for sure

>20.000 dollars
Do you mean $20,000 for a 2 year lease on that apartment? That's quite a lot.

How are "big cities" in Argentina? Are they crime filled shit holes with lots of poor brown people? Would I be targeted/discriminated against for being an English speaking American?

What are police like in Argentina? I think one of the best things about living in America, even in black parts, is that there are a lot of police with fast response times. I can't imagine living in a brown or black city with shitty police.

>says the spanish muslim on Sup Forums

So you are okay with subhuman banging your daughter ang giving you goblinos as descendant if they want small government?

The liberalist meme is a hell of a drug.

I posted that particular flat cuz you Americans have bigger standards of living than us. But you can rent a flat like this for about 450 dollars.
zonaprop.com.ar/propiedades/alquiler-dpto.-por-escaleras.-1-dormitorio-habitacion-43034975.html?labs=I-spark-sep-&labs_source=Recomendados_ficha_propiedad_desktop&userid=0

Basically you watch your back at nigh, you do not go to hostile zones if you are not familiar with them or the inhabitants and you stay alert with police, some of them a criminals. It is to long to explain here, you should do this:
>Go live in a tourists residency
>stay for a month
They are filled with foreign leftists but the help a lot to understand the place you're living in. You'll see we are not more different than you in most things.

watch videos like these to get real street view info about the big cities
youtube.com/watch?v=LBQv-Wi__Uk
youtube.com/watch?v=jwhBEjDTgNY
youtube.com/watch?v=rVLOQB5kGGw&t=1435s

From the pics of that apartment, $450 seems like an okay deal. A $500 apartment in the US would get you into a complex with section 8 (government assisted housing) people, which a lot tend to be thieves, criminals, loud, and just very unpleasant and dangerous to live around. Is $450 a month affordable to most Argentines?

Would it be difficult to realistically lease an apartment in Argentina when I don't know any Spanish?

But a $800 apartment in the US would get you into a building with a gym, pool, professional landscapers, and nice balconies. It's funny what $300 difference is.

Guys, I'm packing my way to Ecuador soon, what precautions should I take? I'm going alone hoping the best.

Wish me luck

Fuck off kike , take them in Israel

>totally not a strawman
user you can do better.
As I said, Alberdi was, some times unjustly, very fixated on replacing our Gauchos with english workers. Liberalism is not synonymous with cuckoldry.

beware of colombians when they say BARAATOOOOH

Get off my country reeeeeeeeeeeeee
Argentina is cool in my book, most of its people seem to be disgraceful leftists, but the few right wingers are good.

>Would it be difficult to realistically lease an apartment in Argentina when I don't know any Spanish?
Yes, dude is like going to Rural Tennessee and asking for beer in Spanish. Also they may think you will trick them by later claiming that "you did not understand the terms of the contract"
Here we are all potential thieves so the business guys are very paranoid about everything.
Install fuckign Duolingo and come here for a month, live with other foreigners, fuck a dutch whore, party the argie way and go back, you'll be ready by then to move.

Why is that? Never been abroad btw

Nearest neighbors so go fuck yourself.

We handle Cuban refugees. Mexico isn't a repressive dictatorship (yet) so fuck them.

rtp.pt/noticias/pais/portugal-ja-acolhe-milhares-vindos-da-venezuela_v1052799

Portugal is already doing their part. Step it up, other Euros, they can't take all on their own.

Good luck on your journey friend! I don't know much about Ecuador but I guess I would tell you the basics. Stay out of trouble, work hard, be good to others, try not to to converse with undesirables. Also if you're carrying money on you make sure not to keep it all in one place. Strap some to your thigh, put it in a can or pull off some James bond shit and put it in a secret compartment in your shoe. You never know when someone will try to mug you and it's best to not lose everything all at once. Also carry water because it's always good to stay hydrated!

We are already plenty of niggers here, why don't they go to israel?

>most of its people seem to be disgraceful leftists
Argies that go to Brazil, specially in the south, are scum, mostly.
They are the typical leftists who shills for massive wealth redistribution but goes and spends 10k dollars on a vacation to Bombinhas or Florianopolis.
>good for your economy tho
>you get to fuck nice Chetas tho

So what you're saying is; this isn't because of socialism.

I recall hearing a few years ago when Chavez died that his daughter was worth US$4b. Turns out Communist leaders redistribute all of the wealth to themselves.

im SI te vas por tierra que es lo más probable, los colombianos te intentarán sacar dinero por lo que sea, tienes que estar muy pendiente marico, cuando pase por Barranquilla, cada vez que escuche uno de esos zambos decir eso cuando les pregunté el precio de lo que sea, ya sabía que me intentaría joder, taxi, comida, hasta el conductor del expreso que tomé desde cucuta hasta Barranquilla me intento cobrar de más porque según el tenía más equipaje del que permitían, cosa que era falso porque de una vez fui a preguntar a la misma tickera

Israel is doing their part. Now it's your turn.
haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-grudgingly-agrees-to-allow-venezuelan-converts-entry-1.5492571

When I was in the USA I did get a nice argie girl, still friends with her on FB and instagram, her pictures with her amigas make me think Argentina has some of the best women on earth (better than ours even)

I hope things improve there brother, Brasil is about to go through some bad times if I am right, might even become a refugee myself there.

We have done our part. We have other problems to think about, we don't need a new one. They can go somewhere else, we are full.

I would take cute latina with nice bunda. My net worth is about several million dorra so I can afford that. Too bad Russia is so far away.

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you mean like we did to you in the 50s Luigi? or did you forgot that 2 millions Italians went to Venezuela after wwII?