Overlord

>The 12th volume, where justice is confounded. Featuring the attack of the heinous Demon Emperor, Jaldabaoth.

>The Holy Kingdom, which takes great pride in its long peace and which is defended by a great wall, is assaulted by an allied army of demihumans.

>The supreme commander of the allied forces is the Demon Emperor Jaldabaoth.

>The Holy Kingdom faces destruction at the hands of the cruel and merciless Demon Emperor.

>The liberating army that seeks to aid the suffering citizens requests aid from the Sorcerous Kingdom, a nation of the undead that are the mortal enemy of the Holy Kingdom

>Led by the Sorcerer King Ainz Ooal Gown, the Holy Kingdom sets out to destroy the Demon Emperor Jaldabaoth.

Who is ready for sasugasms in SEPTEMBER 30TH

I was ready for it this Tuesday.

Who's ready for JUST revolting?

> SEPTEMBER 30TH
Also known as october.

It's only $99.99 user.

I'm ready to see him go completely bald at 23.

That'll be all too familiar to me.
Let the man become addicted to alchemy and develop paranoia.

So did Demiurge conquer the beastmen offscreen or is it gonna be his actual summons for the army?

He already has paranoia. Every second thought that he has he assumes Ainz has already predicted. Demiurge is going to completely break his mind when he's done with him.

Maybe doppelganger will be jaldabaoth with demiurge being at ainz's side to insure demiurge cover doesn't get blown?

Aren't most of his lvl. 1 maids, as well as Nabe) doppelgangers? Can they mimic his appearance as well?

Nop they are cute homonculi with an appetite

I'm too hyped to wait another 2 months.
I need my seasonal dose of spooky skelly and I need it NOW! it's 3 seasons too late yo.

I have already reread the whole thing again since june. Twice. Send help.

>Jir: THIS GUY IS A MONSTER WHO PLOTS EVERYTHING
>Ainz: oh, my friend Jir is here, lets go say hi.

I honestly hope Jir calms down and becomes buddies with Ainz.

>some time later in the future
>albedo finds tabula smaragdina
>she doesn't want to serve anyone other than momonga
>albedo tries to kill him with the ss squad
>she fails and gets heavily injured
>tabula smaragdina finds ainz
>"ainz, what have you tone to albedo?!"
>spaghetti everywhere
>"ainz... you're too dangerous, abandon nazarick now or I'm going to kick you out!"
>panic and more spaghetti
>ainz tries to explain but tabula smaragdina doesn't believe him
>tabula smaragdina convinces rubedo and the others in the ss squad to assist him
>ainz groups all the remaining nazarick military forces together
>the next 2 volumes keep revolving around battles between the NPC forces
>another 2 volumes for ainz vs tabula smaragdina epic battle
>*wild 3rd player appears*

Thoughts?

>SEPTEMBER 30TH

Nah. I think looking for the other "supreme lords" was just an excuse for Albedo to make her loyalist faction/secret police that could rival oppositors, and she has no real intention of finding other players but probably does not intend to kill them.

What I would like to see is sinething like this:
>Nazarick completely conquers the NW, with minimal losses
>An entire volume of Ainz and the guardians ruling over the world. They roughly understand that in a few hundred years a new batch of players will show up and challenge them
>After a century of developing technology and perfecting Nazarick's defenses, the new challengers finally materialize on the NW
>It turns out to be most of the other 40 members of AoG; they formed another guild in Yggdrasil 2, that came out just after Yggdrasil one was shut down.
>The members are appaled by the atrocities Ainz and their former NPCs did
>4 final volumes revolve around the former AoG guild members invading Narzarick

Ainz will eventually give him a racial transformation item and in a century or two he'll get along with Ainz.

That is a terrible idea and you should feel bad for typing it out.

One of the main points of the entire series is loneliness and the fact that Ainz's last bits of humanity are from the memories of his guildmates. Having all 40 of them appear just to call Ainz a shit is just terrible.

Ainz has repeatedly stated that if any of his guild members were to call for him stepping down, he would do so in a heartbeat.

But that's the kicker. After hundreads of years of loneliness, he is forced to choose between the world that he has created and ruled over for centuries or his former friends. The NPCs are forced to make the same decision. Also, the irony of the invincible Narzarick being invaded by its former creators, killing their own creation in disgust. Think of the character conflict that would generate, it would be fascinating.

He would, but would the NPC's accept it? They have repeatedly said that Ainz is the only Supreme Being that stuck to the end and did not abandom them. Also, he build and incredible ammount of loyalty among most of them. Even if he accepted it, if some of his mates decides to start undoing everything that he did during his reign there would be heavy dissent in Nazarick, and they would pressure him to go back, at the risk of civil war.

That's true but, are we certain that he'll do the same even in front of false accusations? will the loyal NPCs allow him to step down when he was the only one who really cared for them till the very end?

I can imagine the 40 supreme beings appearing all at once but that would be for a Overlord 2.0 novel if that were to be the case, still, I doubt it would turn out so horrible for Ainz.

>I doubt it would turn out so horrible for Ainz.
Actually, when I imagined my little scenario there I pictured Ainz probably winning. How fun it would be to see them going through each floor in Narzarick, just to finally reach the 10th floor, weakened and few in number, to fight the final boss waiting for them just as planned: Aiz Ool Gown. It would tie everything together perfectly to me.

Sometimes I dream I'm Evileye in Shalltears sex dungeon, and she forces me to do all sorts of humiliating stuff.

That would be a very interesting dream if you were a girl, user. But since you're not it's just weird.

>weird
Why? my Yggdrasil Avatar would be a cute girl of course.

I understand we're all little girls here Sup Forumsnon. Still, actually dreaming about being an animu loli is just taking it too far.

>loli
Would it be more normal if I dreamed I was Albedo getting boned or boning fem! Satoru?

>dreaming about being an animu loli is just taking it too far.
If he dreamed of being a loli that gets gang-banged by a group of faceless old men then THAT would be going too far.
user's dreams of getting intimate with other lolis are sweet dreams.

I already feel dumber after reading that

/u/, you're drunk, go to bed. But before that, can you give me more info on that female Satoru image?

I want evileye to be bullied and in despair after finding out momon is ainz

She'll be Entoma's snack in a few volumes. Honestly, if Ainz decides to kill her nonchalantly and then feed her to the cockroaches while she cries, the nips would lose their minds. unfortunately, since she's a popular character she'll probably be fine or at least not die horribly.

I wonder if she'll really despair, or just be happy that he's immortal like her and they can stay together forever.

yea, shes too popular to die at this point because as you said, nips would lose their mind and boycot or something since its not like arche where character appeared only for 1 volume but one that spanned over multiple volumes. I recall EE was ranked pretty high in popularity poll

but the least she can do is be in despair and bullied

She's too much of a do gooder. If she finds out he and his crownies killed her friends and other countless innocents, it's over.

everything was fake what do you mean?

>popularity poll
Higher than Shalltear and Maruyama's #1 girl next to #2 Shalltear, maybe she should have been the guardian of the 1 to 3rd Floors after all?

> I recall EE was ranked pretty high in popularity poll
Too high. And that's considering a good portion of the voters were anime-only fags. If she shows up in the second season, she'll basically be unkillable as a character, and it will drastically affect how she's written on the novel. Nips just can't get enough of that moe, I guess.

it doesn't necessarily mean she'll find out that jaldabaoth was under ainz's control, does it? after all, they're going to have a 1v1 in the next volume too, all it changes is that the knows that ainz was the hero who saved her from the evil jaldabaoth, other than brain unglaus who recognized shalltear, nobody else should have any clues to make a connection between ainz and jaldabaoth (enri's village maybe since the maids go there sometimes but I doubt it will make any difference).

Enri will be the savior of this vol, another of demi's plans ruined, the despair.

Beastmen have their own countries so he must have picked up the scattered demihumans in the area plus his summons.

I really do hope Maruyama doesn't get affected by the polls. Polls affecting future events feels cheap.

>I really do hope Maruyama doesn't get affected by the polls
Well, he wrote Albedo in because the publishers predicted (correctly), that the story would be more popular with a heroine. In the WN Demiurge was pretty much the coadjuvant to the protagonist. Don't think they won't pressure him to do this kind of shit, and don't think he won't do it. It's just a LN after all.

Would a female skeleton have more emotions than regular Ainz? How would AOGs relationship play out if Momonga was female?

>How would AOGs relationship play out if Momonga was female?
Not at all. Albedo is attracted to him because she's a succubus and because Momonga made her that way. Shalltear, because she was made to have bizarre fetishes that make her sexually attracted to corpses.

If Ainz was a she, I don't think Demiurge, Cocytus or Sebas would be incredibly attracted to femme-momonga. If anything, nothing would change: Shalltear would still be attracted to him/her because of her fetishes and power fantasies, and so would Albedo if fem Momonga programmed her to be that way.

I mean with her guild mates, would female Satoru be a cake and all alone?

How the fuck would I know? That's completely up to the writer at this point.

Well a cake is a japanese lady over 25.

this is retarded and conflicts with how Ainz/Tabula/the NPCs would act.

Adding a player Ainz knew into the mix would only hurt the story.

Would the rape scene at least be more erotic? What if Albedo is the first person to confess to fem!Momonga?

I think the fact that she's a vampire will skew her view a bit, after all ainz and his kingdom would be the only ones who would accept her as she is. Especially if she talks to Ainz one on one and doesn't get the fucked up reinterpretation of his goals that the npc's have.

>Would the rape scene at least be more erotic?
Fucking how? It's a skeleton. How would that make a difference?

Prepare the summoning of Nigel!

What if she ends up working at the orphanage?

No tabula won't betray ainz unless she's corrupted by her evilass build which could be plot point for the players that arrive, ainz is lucky he's a skelly.

Ainz was missing a few several AOG member statues meaning they didn't give it to him so they might have come over.
They should be small time members who don't have much influence in building nazarick or talking to ainz so it shouldn't be tat bad.

>Demiurge that high

Weird, thought people preferred Cocytus over him.

>conflicts with how Ainz/Tabula/the NPCs would act.
Do you mean that the personality of Tabula wouldn't cause an accident like that? I considered that Ainz hasn't talked to him in who knows how many years, since people tend to change or assume that others change, there's a possibility he would think that Ainz turned evil for some reason yet unknown to him and maybe he'd try to "fix him up" even though it's just all a misunderstanding and Albedo was acting on her own (in the hypothetical events I made up I mean).

>a player Ainz knew
That's probably inevitable, I don't remember where but somewhere I read that one of the guildmates couldn't attend the closing event ingame because he had to meet some evil person irl which is probably related to the guild or the game in some way. I doubt the author will just leave this detail stagnating till the end of the novel, he's probably planning to make use of it somewhere in the story, eventually.

>tabula won't betray ainz
I know, rather than betrayal it would be self-righteousness in this case, since Tabula assumed that Ainz did something that caused the NPCs to turn against him, including Albedo and Rubedo who are his personal creations.

By the way, I assumed that Rubedo and the others would follow Albedo's orders to the letter since she's the 2nd in command in Nazarick right after Ainz.

He would probably feel betrayed by Ainz for changing his creation from Nazarick's cumdump into a respectable lady.

"I hate this...
Don't leave me alone
Satoru..."

>racial transformation

> No more! I'm sick and tired of living in a constant fear! Now I will drink the bottle of poison which I secretly switched with my stomach medicine and end my life.
> At least I would never have to deal with this inhuman diabolic mastermind again.
> Farewell, this imperfect world!
>*glup*
>...
>...
> Umu.
> Can you hear me?
> Hello, my treasured ally.
> It seems some evil assassins had managed to poison your food
> But fear no more! To prevent you from being poisoned ever again, I had asked my subordinate to help you a little help in this matter
> I think you've already meet Shalltear before
> Now you don't have to bother with an heir and we can plan our diplomatic relations for the next ten thousand years
> But I have to go now. Goodbye, best buddy.

If he was turned into a vampire by Shalltear he will become her slave in body and soul, with no hope of getting into her pants (bloomers?), remeber in the WN when Brain comes from the thought of imagining Shalltear with her brides but never being able to participate or enter her home, could you imagine a worse life than that?

>two whole months away

dont worry user, August is just a 60 day month and Septemebr is just a 150 day one, itll be over in a flash, just like septembruary 2015

>Jircniv decides to kill himself
>makes absolutely sure he will die by hiring multiple assassins and putting 101 plots into place
>surely he will die and be free of the Sorcerer King now
>But just as he's about to swallow his poisoned wine, Ainz messages him,
>"I just realised the vassalage of the Empire is only while you're at the helm. I would hate for you to pass away suddenly."
>HEADCANON: SPIN ON
>"The Sorcerer King knew I'd do this"
>"If I kill myself, he'll avenge himself on the Empire in horrible ways"
>"I can't die!"
>Unfortunately the various assassins didn't get the message
>Jircniv spends a week dodging all his would be killers until he can explain the situation to them

.Meanwhile Ainz wonders how to encourage Jircniv to have a child. "It would be nice to ensure the succession and that the Empire doesn't fall into civil war."

Why is clementine's picture squeezed in one tiny corner?

>squeezed

You are correct that there is plenty of foreshadowing and dramatic theming in Overlord for the main conflict to be internalized to Ainz and his ambitions and desires and relation to Nazarik. However, your scenario doesn't correspond with what's been set up so far and in honesty is pretty badly written.

For example, it's been made exceedingly clear that Ainz is alone in this world and no players exist for him to find, despite him desperately wishing to. This loneliness is a huge part of Ainz's character, and is likely to be one of the central pillars on which his future character development will depend. I agree with you that Ainz vs his guild is interesting, and I even agree that will become a real conflict in the novel. However, it will not a direct fight like that. One thing Maruyama has been proficient at is subtlety, and I fully believe Ainz's battle against the guild of Ainz Ool Gown will happen inside his head and the values he believes in.

To elaborate, Ainz's entire current motivation is based upon the legacy of Ainz Ool Gown and his former online friends. However, when you think about it, isn't that really pathetic? After all, they were only online friends. Ainz may care about them more than anything else in the world, but that doesn't go the same for them. They would gladly abandon him at the drop of the hat if it was more convenient that way. Deep down Ainz should know that, because that is exactly what happened. In comparison to the relationships he had online, aren't the new friendships he is creating in the NW far more "real" and meaningful?

(CONT)
There will obviously be a point in the future at which Ainz will have to choose between his current friendships and old non-existent friendships from the MMO. The story is directly set up with those two being at conflict. However, how could he possibly justify that? How can he put casual acquaintances he barely knew over "real" intimate friendships with those who would give their life for him? It's only currently possible because he knowingly deludes himself and overly romanticizes the past. However, he is a logical man at heart, and should eventually realize that the ground he walks on is made of sand. If you really dig down and look into his core motivations and justification for his actions, there is nothing there. He is a miserable, lonely man who makes himself even more miserable for a reason that only exists within his own head, not based at all upon reality. In that case, why can't he be happy? He obviously wants to be happy, so what is stopping him? There is literally only a single thing that's standing in his way: that is himself.

Overlord is really a lot deeper than people think it is, but it's kind of a pain because it feels like I'm the only person who noticed these themes.

I see it too. Some people complain that Ainz is overpowered, but fail to realize that the conflict of Overlord is purely internal. It all revolves around how Ainz is his own worst enemy in many ways.

There are plenty of challenges for ainz but they won't be done cause the author has to cater to the OPmc fags or he'll feel like he's let them down.

I'm not sure about that. PDL is strong, but can be reliably taken down with multiple Floor Guardians, like with that giant tree. DDDL is countered by undead like Ainz and Shalltear, and wild magic has very limited uses, and has yet to be fully fleshed out.

If you're talking about feasibly combat-related challenges, then no, they do not.

Technically the NW does have some fighters which could give him trouble in specific circumstances. However, geopolitics render that fact irrelevant. The effective power Ainz can project is so much greater than any other faction that he has no realistic rivals whatsoever. While his enemies are disparate and at conflict with each other, Ainz commands a highly centralized state with perfect loyalty and operational capacity. In any military sense, defeating Ainz is like any other country defeating the modern day USA. Any such defeat would be more self-inflicted than anything else, being a failure to achieve a certain objective instead of succumbing to a superior force.

All of Ainz's conflicts so far have been self-inflicted. Even his most difficult fight would have been trivial if he used his full might. His greatest enemy and risk for safety in the Shalltear fight, for example, was never Shalltear herself. It was he himself, who placed himself in a dangerous semi-suicidal position when there was literally no practical reason for him to do so. Ainz's greatest enemy right there (and also throughout the rest of the story) was his own mentality, which is consistent with its central theme. People who want a "real" challenge for Ainz and Nazarik to face are missing the point of the story.

But maybe I'm being too harsh. If you read closely enough, you can see that there is in fact a "real challenge" being set up in the future for Ainz, one that can easily keep up with his full might combat. I wonder if people can tell what that is?

The god-tiers from the Slane Theocracy seem promising, but I have a few concerns. Since they were never part of yggdrasil, wouldn't they vulnerable to time manipulation and eath manipulation? If so, why? Only players from Yggdrasil invested in that, and for the sole purpose of countering other players. They would have no reason to take measures against that.

I've just treated Overlord like Touhou from day one. Sure Reimu is going to rape everyone but it's still fun to watch the characters interact with the world and each other.

He won't,jir will think at yomi level 100 while ainz isn't even playing yomi against him causing him to outplay himself everytime

Clementine seems to have used a martial skills similar to Ainz's time stop but which wasnt stopped by Ainz's aint time stop measures.

>I wonder if people can tell what that is?
Albedo and her squad would be the obvious choice.

Entoma a shit.

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She's the sweetest little rose bud that Naz'rick ever knew
Her eyes are bright as diamonds they sparkle like the dew
You may talk about your Clementine or sing of Albedo
But Chair/Shalltear Bloodfallen is the only girl for me!

>god-tiers
God-kin, m8.
They are slightly above maid-tier.

Actually a few of them are even below maid tier. Lance kid, one of the strongest, is tought to be about Solution tier by Shalltear.

Plus meidos probably have much better gear.

I tend to forget there are other god-kins and only meant KC and CD.

Nah, one of them even had a WCI, they're probably fairly equal on gear now they don't have anyone who can wear that.

Wow Shallchair losing to EE
Demi should be higher

This would be one of the very best outcomes for this story honestly

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The same was said about Arche you remember her and the outcry it created?
It was clear enough he has no problem to kill a popular character off for the sake of the story and not for its fans.

Albedo was created also for the sake of Ainz getting a free hand, in the WN HE was it that was stuck in Nazerick and had to deal with all the administration stuff that got shifted on to Albedo.

Giving Ainz alot more interactions with the world.

>lakyus below a hamster.

>implying she can even defeat an armored hamster, be it in appareance or power

Waste of pure noble chuuni blood.

>Enri 13th
I guess only 3764 people in Japan have taste
(Well, 41,419, but Ainz's victory was assured beforehand, just as he planned)

Reminder

I want to make her unworthy of her armor