Since the last thread was so popular.
For the aussie bro:
>More examples of being monkey pawed needed ITT
>This post by an user made me think... what has changed with modern dating?
>Related posts are welcome, and so is some redpilled discussion even from femanons. Just don’t announce your or a femanon because... tits or gtfo
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Well for the anons out there feeling down, there’s someone out there for ya
>lauv
Not bad user, not bad
A lot has changed.
Modern dating for example doesn't take place in locales. Some would argue that's good. But it also feeds unrealistic expectations on both sides, male and female. You *think* there's this enormous pool to draw from. But that's total poppycock for 90% of men and women.
Then there's pornography. Undeniably it has damaged male and female relations in a number of ways. Makes men and women insecure, weird ideas about what sex is or "should be" - because they're "pros" so we should emulate them, right?
He actually has some decent music.
I think there are still good girls out there, but they aren't nearly as vocal as the trash and they often get scooped pretty fast. It might take some time in modern society, but sooner or later most guys realize what they should be looking for.
>there’s someone out there for ya
You seem to think a persons line of reasoning is static when it's not, it's dynamic
Someone you are with now can change into a completely different person years after the fact
It's why I'm divorced and perpetually single , people change without warning or even a clear reason. Most of my ex's tried to keep in contact with me after the breakup, they didn't stop liking me, they just stopped wanting to be in a relationship with me, greener pastures and all.
People have a mindset that settling is some sort of punishment, and they want to move on to something different, not necessarily better , that's what drives the hookup culture of today IMO
I for one will not treat them as humans in the dating game.I'm sick of this dog whisperer bullshit in the dating scene where I have to pretend all of this shit I don't care to be.
I buy them like products as prostitutes. That's where all these ((liberated)) "women" belong
Like it took a while to meet a really nice girl at the university I go to, because she wasn't into the same mainstream snapchat/ party routine as everyone else, and in hindsight she was very hard to find.
Yeah but its just the mainstream trash where that logic applies, I think you should definitely be prepared in case you actually do meet a good girl.
The only way to get girls interested in you is by fucking other girls. The worst thing you can do is show interest because that comes off as being boring.
Current gf is with me because I was fucking other girls when we met and thinks I chose her, when in reality she was the least hassle.
The odds are low, years change peoples motives, goals ,wants and perceived needs
With no fault marriage, and the hookup culture the love life of everyone is a fucking lottery
Be warned, if you want to date and you don't know what to expect from this thread, it won't make it any easier for you.
That's the mentality of a cuckold, you know she's going to cheat, right?
>niggas still date and/or get married in 2012+6
What's the fucking point you insane cunts? "Dating" apps exist, you can get your dick wet for the price of a couple of cocktails, at least once a month (unless you look like shit), and don't have to deal with the person the cunt is attached to for more than a couple of hours.
>inb4 hurr jew preserve le white race
Fuck off.
Im fairly realistic. Im the 5’2 manlet OP from the last thread. Medfag and all so my career is solid but dating is lacking for attraction reasons. Never usually make it past first date, and Im pretty tired of just hooking up, it gets lonely as fuck after a while
This is a misunderstanding and the problem with divorce in general, which at one point didnt even exist.
A marriage and relationship is serious. Not a small matter. It requires intense focus like anything else worthwhile does. YOU will change. Your partner will change. You have to keep working at that. It's one of the fundamental problems with our decadent society right now; that we should always "feel safe and content." Laughable.
Your argument is weak here. You're saying "because people change, relationships are pointless."
This is folly because EVERYTHING changes, constantly. Every day is different and new. Do you disown your parents or best friend because they change their mind over something? It's silly.
>You're saying "because people change, relationships are pointless."
No, you said that, I said it's a lottery
You can't win if you don't play....
You are projecting,if you think I said relationships are pointless when all I did was point out their complexities
which is true
Relationships are a lottery?
Okay, If that premise is true, again, why should they not be pursued? Not getting hit by a bus on your to work is lottery. But everyone knows they should both ways before crossing the street.
right leaf is right
You need to change your mentality. I don't want to hear ifs, buts or maybes, I don't care about women doing this or women doing that, you've got to change. The women are out there, you've just stopped trying to find them.
You're just going to make things worse by pulling out of the market entirely, it's not the answer. No matter what anyone else is doing you have to take some responsibility for yourself. The dating market is toxic at times, don't get me wrong, I've been in and out of it a lot over the last five years or so. I've learnt many lessons and had some disheartening experiences. But I picked myself up and kept going. I'm still dating, I don't have a final answer yet but I know I will get there because my experiences are tending towards more positive over time. I'm getting better and I'm matching with better people as a result.
All this narcissistic women hating bullshit won't get you anywhere. OK so women are terrible, now what? Do you really think every single fucking woman is that bad? It's a toxic mentality, at least as toxic as the dating market as a whole is right now. You're ruining nobody but yourself. So carry on as you are, it's no skin off my back, or consider doing something about it. I know what I'd do in your position.
I never said they shouldn't be pursued
What the fuck leaf, you really are projecting
You need to read what I wrote, and stop reading shit that isn't there
This faggot is putting words into my mouth and projecting he's own insecurities
That retard isn't right about anything
All correct. I tend to gravitate to places that interest me and hopefully i’ll run into someone that shares the same interests, passions and other shit people match up with. Its a two part thing imo. You gotta both be attracted and mesh well with the detee per se
>take some responsibility for yourself
People can't see that it's a cultural problem, and not limited to the sex of person in the hookup culture
It's why I disagree with MGTOW so much and never say it's directly the fault of either the woman or the man
It takes two to tango
Men are just as much sluts today as the women are
Good post btw
I always wanted to hook up with a chick that's into coslay , but they always seem to be in a relationship
Kind of sort of. My current gf claims she settled on me because of the way I treated her - as a lady. But she also says that she likes the idea that I had had sex with other people before we met. She's a virgin btw and still is.
Women like to feel like they have a desirable person for a mate, and a good indicator of desirability is whether they've had other women in the past. That said, they also want to be treated "right." At least if they're a good girl. It's kind of tortured logic, but assuming the girl is pure or mostly pure, traditional, and pretty, it works out.
I mean, my gf got me for that reason. Maybe I'm an idiot, but whatever. Definitely don't miss boning other girls.
Well if you live near a weeb hub i.e. little tokyo, defintely check out a coffee shop or bookstore.
Exactly. I noticed something extremely pertinent, as I started being a better man, women seemed to be better women. Sure, it's all relative, but it's also real. By putting yourself out there and being true to yourself (pursuing your interests), you're being a better man and you will reap the benefits of these actions in the long term.
Thanks for the advice, will try it out
Now How long, god knows. But i’m okay with it, i put all my energy into my patients, but it does get sad going home to an empty house and get greeted by my dog. So it is a bit painful being alone sometimes, but hey, sacrifice is there for a reason.
That’s why I think mgtow is wrong in the sense that males don’t need a significant other. They do, we’re hardwired to find a perfect mate (albeit “perfect” in the sense that they mesh well and share your interests) and to lean each other for support, which is lacking for males atm.
>see example, Galentine’s day
Just don’t fucking weeb out. Just be chill and chat about your and their interests and see if y’all mesh well.
Right, the thing as a whole is fucked, but that doesn't mean every part of it is fucked. There are women out there, men just have to be willing to find them.
Finally, an OP that isn't a faggot! Very true OP. Men these days are smarter because their fathers have felt the full ass fucking of feminism and have passed on the knowledge to their sons. Good. We need these white THOTs and Roasties to be pissed off cat ladies.
Sup Forumss polemic in a nutshell:
> Third wave feminism
> Men are also to blame for letting it happen and becoming sluts themselves
> Not enough slut shaming
> Get fit and everything works out
> MGTOW being salvation or damnation depending on thread
> Stick to a traditional girl and take care of her
Me, I'm going to fuck as many girls as I can. That increases the chances of finding someone I would stick with. How do I make her stay? Make myself indispensible emotionally. Every ex I ever had has come crawling back. Every girl I was with was a few years younger. Current lover is 18. Still not into my 30's and market value is only increasing. I'm in no rush to fix anything.
Are you me?
Also OP here, I might try to have a daily general like this. I like the discussion. Its quite comfy
I don't know if I'm into women or boipussi. I feel like men are better than women at everything, even at being women. Have I become so much of a sexist I'm now gay? I doubt it. I don't pursue relationship with the boipussi I fuck, so I'm still heterosexual.
do men actually believe the newspapers? do modern men actually wake up read up some articles and make their mind about what women want and who they are today without actually talking to women? a man who reads nothing but news is no smarter than a man who reads nothing
Your argument denies actual experience with the matter
Also it's an ad hominem
>roasty over 30 detected
How did that cock carousal work out for you mama?
I'm a little bit older than you and I believe I'm a couple of years further along in my journey than you too so I'm going to tell you one thing: Be very wary of grass is greener syndrome. After sleeping with a dozen women chances are you will have encountered one that is compatible with you. The last thing you want to do is get lost in an endless search for perfection. This doesn't mean lower your expectations as well, but learn from your experiences and be a realist.
I used to date several women at once and constantly go in and out of my relationships, I believed fucking more women would get me to my goal sooner, but I realised I was wrong. Now I date one at a time, and if it doesn't work out with one I give myself time to stop before starting again. You are already clear on the fact that you're in no rush so maybe it's time to start being a little bit more selective.
Yes they do. Ans so do women. It's why many of them believe every man is a rapist or a murderer in waiting and become afraid of men
Can you link to the previous thread pls?
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Why do i even keep living?
Thanks, Mike
Thats good advice, like the two to tango user said, its finding someone that just meshes well, not necessarily the same personality etc, but rather someone that compliments your personality
>Modern dating
More like prehistoric mating.
Help me out.
I've been using Tinder since November, I'd say I've met 5 people where there was mutual attraction.
All of them, however, just ended up no longer responding to my messages after a few weeks.
One girl literally sent me a snap of her licking her fingers clean after cumming. Another one wanted to know my whole life story, kept on saying I was handsome, and we bonded over laughing at someone we both randomly knew.
One girl, who seemed lonely and unhappy, would chat with me every day and I'd try to cheer her up since she hated her job. Another girl I met up with IRL but she turned out to be fat and also told me she'd slept with 30 guys in one year.
I'm talking to another girl at the moment, again everything seems to be going fine so far but I can't shake the feeling that she's just going to stop responding to me sooner or later.
How do I spot time wasters like this before I've gotted interested in them?
Daily reminder
Wow, that kind of explains all the mass-shootings lately
>Your argument denies actual experience with the matter
i doubt that men have an actual experience with multiple women from different backgrounds and cultures, what they have are studies, opinions and articles about the topic which they seem to take as an actual evidence of what they believe, most men are unable to read any science paper past abstract and are heavily influenced by headlines and are only confirming their biases
i have found out, that what is being argued for in the media about both men and women is often the opposite in real life, no women are actually scared of me nor are they feeling more oppressed than they have been in the past, which is also a fact
I don't think much has changed with dating. I'm in my 30s and do pretty well. Generally, if you're a decent dude with an all right job, okay personality you can get just about anyone. I feel there's very few women I would have trouble getting and I'm slightly above average. Girls want you to be a man. Yeah, the bar for entry has gotten higher since girls are acting dumber but once you get through it you can still have the relationship you want. You, as a man, have to be a better person because you have become shit too and don't realize it.
A woman will match your manhood with femininity. The less manly you are, the less feminine she will be
Go to bars, clubs and raves
Dating sites are an impersonal meat market catering to women more than men
It's a buyers market for women, Clubs bars and raves are more personal and make getting laid easy, men and woman there want to fuck and aren't as pick as they don't exactly have unlimited options like a dating app
>pick
picky
Ok, sweet cheeks
I submit to your line of reasoning.....
Have some cheer me ups Anons
Can we see your tits now, I want to oppress you really badly
>i'm not a slut
>i'm a whore
I like that, it made me happy
Use tinder to meet someone ASAP. If you haven't set up a date within 10 messages within the first 24 hours move on. Most girls you meet on there will suck but the quicker you meet them in the real world the sooner you can evaluate them beyond a phone screen
are you ready for the return of patriarchy and arranged marriages?
They are reading about the experiences of men who have gone before them and know what they're talking about. Not that any of those men would be writing for any mainstream publication. Sites like Askmen are useless at best and counter-productive at worst.
I personally attribute my success with women on Roosh V, Chateau Heartiste and /fit/
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I haven't online dated since the mid 00's, but the same advice applies now as it did then - meet in person as soon as possible, for a quick drink or coffee. Otherwise don't waste your time continuing to chat them online.
What you've said makes sense to me, I decided to give dating apps a try because I was tired of being lonely but thinking about it I almost feel more isolated when I use them.
At least if I were out meeting people I'd physically be socialising, not virtually socialising.
I don't just want to get laid though, I'm 25 and I'm ready to find something long term, kids in the future, house, ect. I just don't know where to look.
That has to be bait.
She's honest, kind of have to respect that
I had a friend sleep on my couch Wednesday night. He'd had enough arguing with his wife and needed to get out of the house. I sat him down, got him a beer, put on a flick and spent a couple hours handing him red pills. Explained that all women are cowards, stupid, and immature and that they are so coddled that they can't handle the slightest inconvenience without falling apart. I told him if he wants to save his marriage, he needs to understand that he has to accept that he'll have to then relegate himself to the role of surrogate daddy to his wife and remember that she will always constantly lie through her teeth to him.
Also, if anyone wants legit relationship advice for the next 45 minutes or so I can help you out. I'm in my mid 30s and have my life in order and a better grasp of relationships than about anyone on here. Have some time to kill at work.
Then disregard what I said, find a club or a group to join. Something that you can enjoy with other people that also attracts women of the same interest
Dating apps are garbage, you need to meet women in real life
Hell,start fishing in the company pond if you have too
>All I want is a bookworm qt
>every woman seems to be dumb as breaks who are addicted to their smart phones and social media too much
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Pic related...
Honestly if they have Snapchat, they can fuck right off. It only exists versus other means of communication for sexting stealthily and attention whoring. "Oh but I use it because of the cute filters!!! Teehee" GTFO with that bullshit.
It's not just women , it's the hookup culture of today. You are taking a bluepill and not even realizing it , he's 50% of that problem in his relationship and you are interfering with it from an outside vantage point.
You no better than a church gossip
You are the real problem, not women ,fucking shit starting gossip home wreaking fuck face bitch
Be honest with me. Where do you go to meet women?
>last thread
Link it
You Hugh Mungus
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That ass was worth it
They all turn up honest christian wife material once they hit the wall and want to find a betabux. If you're a man, in the most worst and horrible case scenario you can still impregnate one of this sluts and try not to marry her so you don't get divorced raped.
As for them, once they hit the wall they don't get to pick.
that smell, that smelly smell, that smelly smell that stinks. its roastbeef
I got back on tinder a few weeks ago. 20 or so matches later and I hardly talk to any of them. 2 girls I got numbers from, talked for a while, then ghosted them. No sex, no nothing. They practically threw themselves at me though which was the odd part. I’m just a fat unemployed basement dwelling student, but idek. It’s weird
funny thing, all women do this, they provide love, children and company for men, often in exchange for finances and better future, some men believe that his is cruel and not fair, but this is what religion systems have built on, based on our behavior in early human development
>provide love, children and company for men
thanks for the laughs my communist friend
Here's what's going to happen. Because this shit doesn't happen over night. They'll be OK for as much as a week or two. No more. Then she'll be up to her same bullshit again. Only now, she's going to be working up to pressing it harder because he's stood up against it and they had a "big talk". Women compulsively push limits until they recieve discipline for it. Then he's going to end up on my couch again within a month or two. That is when I bring up the principle of whether or not he wants to spend the rest of his life playing parent to another adult who has too much power over him to begin with.
>22 years old
>never had sex
is it even possible for me to start at this point? I feel like it would be impossibly awkward talking to anybody. autism btw
how to get over women completely in less than a year, no pickup lines or 'alpha pua' shit required
>no fap for a full 30 days
>on the 30th day without masturbating, watch a facial abuse video
>go to bars and people watch, mostly the women
>go to a club and peoplewatch all of the dudes that are terrified to talk to women
>visit an unattractive prostitute (this might be the easiest or hardest step depending on your level of disgust to possible disease or entrapment)
>attract a beautiful woman and then reject her of your own accord
Women 'change', men don't.
Women want men to change, men want women not to.
Women follow direct self interest and shapeshift around that evolving goal.
Do it.
Two tenants imo: if the girl and you are both attractive to each other and if your personalities mesh well.
Thoughts?
Nah I'm a guy, I just seen these supposed "redpills™" destroy salvageable relationships of my friends
You can't blame women for everything, at some point you have to realize you are the man in the relationship
It is absolutely possible. There are a lot of women that won't give two fucks how much or how little sex you've had. Put yourself out there, it's the only way. Stop making excuses and just do it. What have you got to lose?
try 27
it would be a little embarrassing to be honest. I have a very low self-cringe-tolerance
All women are whores
Only tradi society curbs women's whore nature
Good luck mating in jewed cucked society (you will fail)
this
it is probably a woman larping
Dude, let him handle his own rodeo
He's a big boy now ,give him emotional support, but don't sit there and tell him how you would handle things in his situation ,because it's his situation
You are single for a reason
You don't have to do all that to get "over women" user. All you have to do is learn their nature.
The moment I understood how women really are, that was enough for me to lose any respect I had for them.
Just abuse them sexually, and never marry women. Simple
No one cares about how many low rent thots you take down or how many insecure girls you can emotionally manipulate. Anyone can do that. This thread is about genuine romance.
La creatura!!!
Jeez she's an ulgier version of my mother.
Tips for finding wife material in a modern world.
>shaming language
no dude, i think they are manipulating you
its in her biological interest to manipulate you, so you can give her ressources. in a relationship she doesnt have anything to give you back, anything you feel is your love. btw neurologists found out that when women kiss men they dont realise love hormones.
women and men arent partners. there is a war going on and its is done by women and they are winning.