The real Wakanda

youtube.com/watch?v=mtsa0MT2H4I

The Chinese man is right. Blacks neglected the infrastructure and technology left behind by whites. If they can't even take care of what is given to them, how do you expect them to develop an advanced civilisation all by themselves?

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>Build railways for the sole purpose of resource extraction
>Fail to educate local populace to any degree
>White engineers leave immediately after independence with no native replacements due to lack of education
>Western universities poach any talent from the local populace
>Post colonial corporations pull strings from behind the scenes and influence policy in favour of resource extraction rather than development

Hmmmmmm yes the black man is to blame

>Niger

Bizarre question. If someone left a Tesla with me and asked me to maintain it over a decade or two, I wouldn't know where to begin because I know shit about car mechanics, whether conventional or electric. In my cases, that's purely by choice though. Colonized people were marginalized by colonizers so very few locals had experience with the immensely complex tasks involved in maintaining a state and its resources.

The same thing happened in former states of the USSR, though to a lesser extent because locals were more involved in governance of the soviet republics.The capital of my homeland still has a huge cultural venue built for the Moscow Olympics that people have tried and failed to find a permanent use for since the 90s. It's just a graffiti magnet.

>getting lectured by a chink when everything they build eventually falls apart and kill hundreds of people

I wish I had my china webms.

>Aliens come down.
>Leave humans technology beyond their means
>Exchange them for resources
>Humans could easily look at and understand technology with a little effort.
>Let it rot.
>Instead of being grateful for the opportunity to see technology beyond their imagining they blame the aliens for not staying and babysitting them for all eternity.

Reverse engineering is a ting that humans do, why didn't Negroes?

>why didn't they just use the technology left behind by the race that murdered thousands of their people
Makes you think

Brainlet logic.

Poos still use some british infrastructure to this day.

This board really is worksafe Sup Forums.

>Leave humans technology beyond their means
>Exchange them for resources

A completely false premise. The infrastructure and technology brought to the colonies was not at the benevolence of the colonialists, it was there to maintain and enforce imperialist institutions and maximise resource extraction of a given colony. Again, Western powers created artificial, arbitrary states along ambiguous religious and ethnic lines, nations with no existing state apparatus and tradition of democracy or bureaucracy, making maintaining state projects such as railways and incredibly difficult task, especially given the fact that very few in the country had any modern Western education.

>Black people live in Africa for 100s of thousands of years
>"dem rok in ground are no worth!"
>Chinese in Africa for 6 months
>buy a shitload of land from the Africans, who've done nothing with it for millenia
>Chinese make a shit load of money
>"IT'S THE WHITE MAN'S FAULT WE'RE POOR"

You left out the part where the aliens literally give their police force quotas of locals to kill and asking them to collect severed hands as trophies.

If you oppress a population for long enough, your culture begins to represent that oppression and population understandably treats it with disdain and distrust.

>Build railways for the sole purpose of resource extraction
are you fucking serious? railways were build for the sole purpose of resource extraction in the first place retard
>Fail to educate local populace to any degree
they had thousands of years to develop themselves
>White engineers leave immediately after independence with no native replacements due to lack of education
because any white person is seen as evil or colonist in most countries in Africa. not to mention they are scapegoats for corrupt governments and dictatorships. How dare them fear for their lives?
>Western universities poach any talent from the local populace
that's a personal decition. people that have talent and have comfy lives don't want to go back to the shit life
>Post colonial corporations pull strings from behind the scenes and influence policy in favour of resource extraction rather than development
development is linked to resource extraction in every party and ay time of history. also they don't have the duty to develop those countries.

>Blacks
West Africans did okay with what little whitey left them east Africans didn't get anything, it's just the Bantus

>all these redditors trying to defend African failure

Lmao

as far as sub-saharan africa goes
South (except memebabwe) > West >>> Central > East

Why does everyone think that the white man is obligated to fix everyone else's problems? "failed to educate them", is it the white man's job to educate these savages? They should be grateful that they got free medicine, infrastructure and all other kind of technology that they would have never gotten access to, not even in a million years. If Europeans didn't decide to scramble Africa, Africa would be a wasteland with hardly any niggers in it and barely any cities, aside from a few in the Arabic part.

What about North? WHERE'S NORTH FUCK YOU WHY DOES EVERYONE IGNORE US REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>as far as sub-saharan africa goes

That's why. It's not fairly comparable, you're practically a different continent. Meds and arabs instead of blacks. Obviously you're much better than them.

You're just arab rape babies who go to other countries and blow up.

> be africa
>human civilization literally starts on your front door
>lmao still be niggers who do nothing for thousands of years

hmmmh yes whitey

>Colonized people were marginalized by colonizers

Depends on the colony, really. British colonialism usually used native power structures.

No, what happened was neo-colonialist policies plunging the country into a civil war.

You are such a racist with profoundly deep-seated disdain for Africans. Why do you frame your argument around your false notion that the African is hobbled by a genetic inclination towards a victims mentality? Your entire argument is dripping with white superiority and black inferiority. On the on hand you suggest that the African is incapable of understanding the technology brought to Africa by white Europeans, and then on the other hand you claim that those same white Europeans took all the talented Africans back to Europe. Are we to believe that there were no Africans willing or capable to take the initiative and ask questions as a way of self educating themselves on the basic use of that technology? Are we to believe that there were no Africans curious enough or intelligent enough to figure things out on their own? Are we to believe there were no Africans who realized the enormous potential of their land and were willing to take the initiative to turn that potential into a force for improving Africa?

Your post can be summed up thusly — “Blacks are inferior to whites, and so we whites must pity the victimized blacks and take care of them as a creature whose worth ranks somewhere above a pet but below a child”.

>I get triggered by black people in popcorn flicks, because popcorn flicks are important

>Western universities poach any talent from the local populace
>Wakanda could easily poach these talent if only they would be open to the idea of immigration

It's pretty ironic considering the amount of destruction caused by the Chinese cultural revolution. The Chinese tried to completely annihilate all remnants of their old history and culture.

who is giving African police quotas?

>Somewhere in Africa
>Tribe X oppresses minor tribe Y
>Tribe Y comes into contact with strange white people with guns who really want to trade
>'Dudes, if you keep those assholes from Tribe X off our backs we'll trade you whatever you want'
>European powers go 'Aight cool. Want to run our administration too while we stick to the sidelines and become filthy rich?'
>Tribe X are now the bitches

Colonialism in a nutshell.

End with the Europeans going 'And now we live here too!' for the North American situation and 'You didn't need that left hand anyway you fucking savage' for Belgian Congo.

And pretty much every post-colonial civil war is Tribe X getting back at Tribe Y by introducing them to the wonderful concept of ethnic cleansing.

>Arab rape babies
Ouch that really hurt. Especially when everyone goes out of their way here to point out that they're not Arab because of 'muh Amazigh/berber roots baka
>Be tunisia
>in between two oil giants
>have zero resources themselves
>Libya doing retarded shit and deporting their shitskins to the borders
>algeria sending their criminals to live in the Chaanbi mountains to fuck that area more than IT'S ALREADY FUCKED
>morocco getting cucked by their monarchy every day and still pretend they're better than us because fuck it
>live comfy freedom deprived life pre 2011
>no hijabi women
>no one praying in public
>hailed as secular
>top notch tourism, german and french fucks littering every corner
>2011 revolution happens
>muh democracy
>muh Islamic based government
>muh right to dress in a garbage bag everyday
>Libya sends rapefugees to our borders and we take them in because we're kind and wholesome
>employment rates plummet
>suicide rates and vandalism skyrocket
>suddenly every incompetent fuck decides they want a part of muh democracy
>one dumb fuck blows oneself in a hotel and single handedly ruins the country's income foundation
>no more tourism, le heroic algerians and ruskies step in to save our economy
>fuck up our streets, litter everywhere, rape our women, bring drugs and shiet
>we don't even get gibs anymore because muh independent most progressive secular country in /Mena/
A-at least we're not niggers yeah? heehe

That doesn't mean colonization was the perfect set up for the development of thriving countries. The white man took what they wanted to take and left, not before they could guarantee they would keep getting what they wanted in a limited degree (French troops in Africa is an example). Colonization has good and bad points, that is what I mean.

Day evil white. Fuck off

Really.....

Cro's them magnons

If you dump Islam, you’d fit in well in Europe, it’s an Atheists paradise there

>That doesn't mean colonization was the perfect set up for the development of thriving countries.
You're right, the despotic tribalism they otherwise would have had would've been so much better.

Liberia, it was an American colony solely for freed slaves to return to Africa.
well, look at it now...
youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo

The black boys brought spears to a gunfight. Should've invented something more advanced than a pointy stick if u didn't want to get colonized.

>The Chinese tried to completely annihilate all remnants of their old history and culture.
Yeah that's why their official state policy was 'Socialism with Chinese Characteristics'

wahhh wahhh wahhh
blah blah blah
>thread hidden

so..... National Socialism?

A term which was coined after the Cultural Revolution and Mao's death.

We're still waiting for a black person to invent the wheel.

That's especially true in the Congo where that was filmed

But of course because Africa didn't have the conditions conducive to the development of an advanced society like in Europe and Asia, Africans are obviously at fault for not inventing railways themselves according to this thread.

And the documentary is about a Belgian colony, not a British one

Try rereading his post

Blacks are pussies like women. Everything is white men fault!!
Kinda telling.

the train lines falling into disrepair, which is what the thread was talking about, is objectively the fault of the europeans for (a) withdrawing and (b) not bothering teaching the locals how to maintain them

you can't argue this, regardless of what you think about colonialism, africans, europeans or whatever

could've at least have invented the wheel

you only know about the benefits the wheel provides because you've grown up around them

if I took you into say the rainforests of papua new guinea as a child and dumped you with some local tribe that had never seen a white man before I guarantee that you wouldn't have thought of the wheel either.

the native americans were very advanced for a people that had been completely divorced from europe and asia. they invented the wheel and used it in children's toys, but they never realised the benefits it could serve for society. that's because the benefits aren't readily apparent. the wheel is so, so much more than just a circle.

I highly recommend reading Guns, Germs and Steel. it has some very good arguments about why societies around the world developed to the extent that they did and why others never developed beyond certain points.

>This thread caused a swarm of black dick pics to appear in a homo rage
>By telling the truth

Good job.

stop going against the narrative

Sub-saharan isn't all rainforest. The wheel could definitively have come in handy in a lot of places.Or a plow for that matter. Or some scribblings. Even the vikings hacked stuff into rock and wood.

I prefer "Why Nations Fail" by Acemoglu & Robinson

when did I ever say sub saharan africa was a rainforest? if you got that from the PNG comment then you're a fucking retard, because that country is fucking north of australia

yes the wheel could be useful, so could skyscrapers and mobile phones. but they're fucking retards because they didn't invent them though hey

africans are literally niggers lmao

>round eye pig say open up and trade
>do it or we could.e back and fuck you up
>they do it
>Japan is a modern nation in decades
>one of the most advanced nations on the planet today

Curious

The situations aren't remotely comparable

>you're a fucking retard
rude

>when did I ever say sub saharan africa was a rainforest?
i mentioned no wheel in sub-sahara. u started blabbling about rainforests. I assumed you meant to say that sub-saharan africa did not have an environment that created the necessary incentives to invent the wheel or something like that.

>they're fucking retards because they didn't invent them though hey
yea

Like native americans? Vietnamese? Practically anyone with braincells (plural)?

>u started blabbling about rainforests
hmm remember mentioning it once and in the context of you being taken out of western society and said nothing about the second part

Al-Azhar kicked us out because we gave women equal rights in inheritance. :(

>"DA WYT MAN STOWL DA BLAK MANS RESORSEZ!"

You mean the resources that they had absolutely no understanding of or use for?
It's like getting mad at someone for wearing and selling your old used clothes.
>"HEY! WE DIN NO DAT SHEIIT WOZ WURF MONEY! GIBS DAT SHEIT BAK YO!"

don't see anything about that in the post
all he gave was an objectively true reason for why infrastructure in post-colonial africa fell into disrepair

>moving goalposts again

yeah that's what you did

lol @ black people who blame Africa's state on white people. European nations have been through so much shit, so many famines, conquerings, goverment overthrowing. All of them are fine today. Hell China had a rough history too, they're fine today. Why is it that African nations are the only ones who can't get their shit together? I mean if these truly were the descedants of highly intelligent Egyptians, where the IQ go?

So they haven't evolved as much as other races, and their undeveloped ways have nothing to do with anyone "stealing their resources".
Glad we agree.

>I highly recommend reading Guns, Germs and Steel

THIS

REMINDER:

>True to his electoral promises, Nkrumah went to work putting the economic and social fundamentals in place. This encouraged the people to work even harder. Nkrumah firmly believed that political independence was meaningless without economic independence. [7]

>Thus, by the time he was overthrown in the CIA-inspired coup, Ghana had 68 sprawling state-owned factories producing every need of the population—from shoes, to textiles, to furniture, to lorry tires, to canned fruits, vegetables and beef; to glass, to radio and TV; to books, to steel, to educated manpower, virtually everything![8]

>Nkrumah wanted to industrialize Ghana within a generation, and everything was on course until the Americans and their British cousins (according to their own declassified documents) used some disgruntled and self-serving Ghanaian soldiers, staged that terrible coup on 24 February 1966 that truncated Ghana’s progress. It was a major setback, not only for Ghana but the whole of Africa.

>But Nkrumah was overthrown, and we are now left with nostalgia and what might have been. After the coup, the IMF rubbed salt into our injuries by sending a delegation to Accra to tell the military junta to discontinue Nkrumah’s industrialization programme. And they did! And, as a reward, some of them got airports named after them!

This isn't an isolated incident either but a general pattern of what happened when African countries tried to follow the path that the West had.

>1948-1991 Britain and US supporting Apartheid in order to gain access to diamonds and gold of South Africa. Following apartheid, they helped install a neoliberal economic regime that ensured SA could not raise wages and had to accept US agricultural dumping.
>1960- 1993 France helped keep Houphouet-Boigny, who in turn helped with coups against Nkumrah and Sankara, in power for 30 years in Cote d’Ivoire.
>1961: Pan-Africanist Patrice Lumumbu, Congo’s first independence leader, in office two months before being assassinated with help from Belgium and US on direct orders of Eisenhower.
>1965-1997 The US installed Mobutu as President, and Congo/Zaire’s poverty levels rocketed.
>1966: Ghanaian president Nkrumah promoted policies were simple keynesian economics, the same that had allowed Europe and the US to recover and build a strong social safety net after WW2. He was forced out in a US backed coup.

>1967-2009 France supported Bongo’s 40 year dictatorship in Gabon, guaranteeing France access to the country’s resources.
>1971: Britain and Israel took down Obote in Uganda. Obote wanted to nationalise the colonial British banks, The Uk wanted to retain it’s ability to extract wealth even after “independence”.
>1972: Portugal assist in assassination of liberation leader Cabral in Guinea Bissau and Cape Verde
>1975 Angola finally gains independence from Portugal. After independence, US, British, French and Portugal get involved in the civil war which last till 2002.
>1987 Thomas Sankara, President of Burkina Faso who advocated for pan-African unity and called attention to the crippling loans of the IMF, which were forcing the Global South to remain poor, is assassinated with French help.
>“in the Western imagination, Africa is stereotyped as a continent plagued by corrupt dictators, with the supposition being that Africans are perhaps too ‘primitive’ to appreciate the virtues of Western-style democracy. But the truth is that ever since the end of colonialism, Africans have been actively prevented from establishing democracies. The legacy of strongman rule in Africa is a Western invention, not an indigenous proclivity.” The Divide- Jason Hickel

>it's a Sup Forums is butthurt again - episode

>and?

Must've been some crafty Neanderthal to get him some fine homo sapien bitch

or

my ancestor was raped!!!

>Yaay Oppression olympics won by whitey

thats easy.

>How mant tries did whitey get?

lol

come on now dont make the bullshit argument so easy to break.

maybe fins out what went wrong and use that as an argument

instead of going

>See niggers had the 1 chance and they fucked it up

gotta do better

whats that movie about that real event where a bunch of spear chuckers won the battle against gun tot'n Brits

What kind of retard waits for somebody to invent shit that already exists?

>Just steal it

Japan was quickly introduced to modern technology by Europeans who didn't arrive to subjugate them first and then once a major European power declared war on them they were able to fight them off since the gap had been bridged

that was never possible for African nations

All current Neanderthal genetic legacy in modern Sapiens stems from male Neanderthal/female Sapiens unions, not the reverse as far as we can tell.

Either male Sapiens/female Neanderthal unions didn't produce viable offspring, produced offspring that were sterile (like Mules) or all the descendants of such unions died out.

>Guns, Germs and Steel.

haha nice meme bros

>Fail to defend your country
>Put your selfishness before your country and traditions
>The white man is to blame

look up the history of liberia m8

Not agreeing with them that the book is entirely worthless but the author's central argument that all differences in human societies boil down to geography is overly simplistic and likely purely because the author's chief discipline is geography. Hammers, everything is a nail etc.

The claim that certain species aren't suitable for domestication and that some regions lack species suitable for agricultural work is objectively false, the Russian fox domestication experiments decisively disprove the former and the latter overlooks the fact that modern draft animals are the result of generations of selective breeding. Eurasian horses weren't any more suitable for riding in the Bronze Age than zebras are today.

Large scale agricultural societies struggled to develop in subsaharan Africa because of shit like Tsetse flys and malaria far more than the ludicrous idea that it's impossible to get a zebra to pull a plough.

Ok, Mr Smart guy, tell me what African countries should have done after the colonialisation period ended in the mid 20th century as far as economic and social policy.

>Eurasian horses weren't any more suitable for riding in the Bronze Age than zebras are today
Equitation Scientists say otherwise
theconversation.com/why-zebra-refused-to-be-saddled-with-domesticity-65018

I read that Wakanda has been around for over 10,000 years. I wonder why they can't into space??? Their technology is advanced and impressive, but they didn't improve a lot for over 10K years while Europeans/White Americans can into space in a short period. In addition, Europeans would be a hyper-advanced race in 10K years later.
BP just annihilated my suspension of disbelief.

kek

being a 3-digit negro must be so frustrating

> zebra are not really “people friendly” and as a species they do not fit the criteria for domestication.
>they do not fit the criteria for domestication

Opinion disgarded, Dmitry Konstantinovich Belyayev disagrees and some deluded website crying IT CANT BE DUN!!! doesn't change that. Domestication is simply the selecting of desirable traits over generations, thinking animals exist in the wild 'pre-domesticated' and some animals you can simply walk up to a slap a saddle on is retarded.

>these requirements include displaying a desire for comfort, being easy to tend, being useful and showing a fondness for man.

These are traits that are selected for as part of the process of domestication. Wolves don't show a fondness for man, dogs do, because dogs are wolves that have been selected for that trait. So do Mr Belyayev's foxes.

They're comparing Eurasian feral horse populations or even domesticated horses, with zebra, which have never had any attempt at selective breeding pushed on them, then claiming horses are inherently human-friendly.

This is the equivilent of saying the Banana proves the existence of a God because it's so perfectly adapted for human consumption. Look, it even has a little ring-pull on the top and peels easily!

Also, horses in the Arabian peninsular and fertile crescent had to deal with fucking lions and shit too so

>"But to survive in an environment where there is an abundance of large predators including lions, cheetahs and hyenas, the zebra evolved into a particularly alert, responsive animal that flees in the face of danger but also possesses a powerful response if captured."

is retarded as well. There were still substantial populations of big cats all throughout Eurasia at the time the domestication of horses began, as far north as Germany and Siberia.

A country's economic success is limited by the cognitive ability of its workforce. In other words, it's quite limited what they could have done.

>Guns, Germs and Steel
nope

I think about this movie all the time. I now "its all so tiresome" in real life too.

Reminder the congo was nothing but rainforest before the white man.

Wheels are developed in societies with open landscapes like the desert or grasslands, of course forest niggers wont invent a wheel. Euros only have wheels due to sandniggers.

haha btfo by a comic