I mean with capitalism and communism you're going to end up with an elite ruling class controlling the proletariet. That's inevitable. At least with communism anyone can be the elites while in capitalism it's basically a pseudo-caste system with the elite ivy league inner circle and everyone else. In communism since everyone's at least CONSIDERED equal the inner circle doesn't consider themselves a seperate thing from the proletariet and although they hold the wealth it becomes more of a position that can be easily abtained.
Like if you look at the party leaders of the USSR and Communist China, they were and still are former farmers and stuff. Even the leader of China used to be a pig farmer.
Lets put it like this, I am not horrible enough to go around murdering people to get to the top like in communism(Or well "State capitalism" the last known stage of communism) and I am comfy enough in capitalism in my current state.
Jace Barnes
Track record
Blake Smith
Because communism is and has always been a bait and switch scheme.
You blow sunshine up enough sheep's asses, promising them utopia if only they revolt and put up with an eeensy weensy "transition period", only the transition period never ends.
Neither scenario for why that happens makes a good case for the feasibility of communism. Either every group of communist revolutionaries acted in bad faith to seize power, or the "transition periods" are never-ending because the idea is fundamentally broken.
I'd say both are accurate. Communist utopia is the pipe dream of a German NEET who invented a head cannon theory of history because he was jelly of Chad capitalists.
Brayden Thomas
I would rather not starve
John Rogers
The only plus is that the 2nd gen communists always wipe out the 1st gen communists for not being communist enough
Isaac Brooks
I explained that the utopia part is bullshit, both systems will result in an oligarchy
Mason Wood
because even communists dont support communist you meme faggot
cough universal slavery cough I am already better off than a communist citizen, and I am below the "poverty line" I am just not a total tard with my finances so I got plenty of shit.
Angel Mitchell
They are a weird capitalist/brutalist system now
Juan James
Because I want a stable economy and to left the fuck alone China isn't communist
Jose Wilson
I guess that means North Korea is a democratic People's Republic too
Luke Clark
Oh, sorry, now I know Korea is democratic and also the Congo, Many Thanks.
Alexander Ross
Ruling party in China is only communist by name, idiot
Nathan Bailey
>muh wasn't real gommunism you dumb gommies fuggggg :D
Than what was real communism?
Henry Wood
Holy shit this is the actual worst bait I have seen in 2018.
Charles Butler
I wish this was a joke but it probably isn't.
Communism always ends in Red Fascism.
In capitalism at least not everyone is dying of hunger and the economy somewhat functions.
Bentley Kelly
Oh for fuck's sake.
Communism is stateless socialism, going by the dictionary definition of the term. Even now, however, China's economy isn't of the same type as it was in the People's Republic of China.
China is simply capitalist.
Camden Ross
They are communist if that's what you mean
>North Korea >Congo >democrat Sure
And their economics are communist, and their culture is communist, and their policies are communist, and their society is communist, and their people are communist, but not communist? You're a fucking idiot
You're actually the worst troll I've ever seen. Enjoy the ban
Austin Lopez
Dude... China was communist but after Mao died, Deng started doing shit like Special Economic zones, where all the rules are removed, They liberalized the economy, Class divisions didn't get less visible if not more. The only thing I got to say is that it still as authoritarian. In a way, it was real gommunism, it just didn't stay being real gommunism.
Bentley Wood
In communism people aren't starving and the economy functions. USSR was the only Communist country that collapsed
No it isn't retard
Charles Foster
>And their economics are communist, and their culture is communist, and their policies are communist, and their society is communist, and their people are communist
Logan Torres
>At least with communism anyone can be the elites
Holy fuck you are dumb
Jacob Collins
Name 1 economic policy that they have done since 1974.
Kevin Hernandez
Even if it worked out economically to the point of rivaling capitalism the chances of a communist government becoming corrupt and then tyrannically oppressive are 100%. It has no redeeming features as a political system and has already intentionally slaughtered tens of millions of people and killed many millions of others who it was ironically trying to aid, can you please just come to your senses already?
Isaac Lewis
>Troll r/anarchism detected
Carson Perez
Because its fucking dumb and I dont want to live in a fucking unisulated shithole.
Mason Clark
(((anyone)))
Lincoln Rogers
You're a really bad troll. Since you're Canadian you might get in legal trouble for that shit since trolling is illegal in Canada.
Carson Sullivan
You'er a fucking retard
Make it so government owns everything
Well you're being banned
Brandon Wright
lmao shut it nigger try and ban me you fucking memeflag using shill
Caleb Martin
>In communism people aren't starving and the economy functions
Angel Gutierrez
Last time I checked not many people are starving in China
I don't need to, everyone knows you're a shitty troll. Like not even trying tier.
Parker Morales
Communism has never worked and anarchy (end state of capitalism, or anarcho-capitalism) or "pure capitalism" has never worked, fuedalism was shit and fell apart, none of them will ever be anything but shit. They just don't work in the real world and both commies and libertarians are delusional shitheads.
Only some form of "3rd way" or basically capitalism with a safety net with regulations will ever work. Countries disagree on the exact balance but all functional modern countries have some form of this. When either the market side or safety net/regulations starts to falter, or to devolve into crony capitalist bullshit, the country starts to falter and crumble. That's why adults all advocate some form of this system and the only real debate is the precise mix.
Henry Brooks
China isn't 'real' communism. Just like the failed attempts aren't 'real' communism. Communism is an abstract idea that wasn't even completed by Marx. Even he didn't know what was supposed to happen after the revolution, because he never wrote about it. Communism is for toppling oppressive Monarchy, of which there are none in the world anymore. There is no point in having communism. It isn't even a sustainable ideology, as it is purely revolutionary. If you want communist economy, you might as well employ fascism, as it uses the same scheme, only allowing private profits if it benefits the nations as well.
Matthew Butler
>you're you're just a troll hehe Jesus fuck at least put some effort into your responses
Isaiah Ross
love me some communist culture
Lucas Myers
>failed attempts aren't real communism They are though
And China follows all 10 planks of the communist manifesto