How come he can stick a sword through a wall and evade Todoroki's ice and fire in a narrow street?

How come he can stick a sword through a wall and evade Todoroki's ice and fire in a narrow street?

Shit. I don't know.

His quirk is actually quite shit. Let's be honest. What makes him so dangerous is his physical ability and technically once he gets taste of your blood game is over.

Also I guess he sort of has some charisma. Lunatic that he his but he really does believe in what he says. Weird character.

I hate when they suddenly go inconsistent with power levels.
Oh well, it is a shounen after all.

training obviously

It's not even incosistent. Aizawa has similar skills. His quirk doesn't work against mutation quirks and we see him take down a few people with those.

I'm not sure how I feel about a "power"less villain who is incapable of being a long term enemy due to his significant murders

there's a caution that people have to not go 'too far' and stain would never suffer from that, so that part is realistic

but just for exploring what heroics are, and providing a safe springboard to the rest of the story, he's ok

It's a superhero setting, base human level is higher than in real life. Batman has dodged sniper fire before.

>How is a villain who have been training himself for much longer and have more experience able to keep up with a hero with very little experience in the field who just started using his second power a month ago

I do not know user

Other than All Might most characters have to plan in advance with tactics for every battle, and Stain just excelled at combat like Bakugou, plus he actually always killed so while one side tries to suppress, other is trying to maim or kill.

Also, he did try to avoid large scale confrontations like aizawa as well. One big theme is that many quirks are quite USELESS - the working ones are the ones that had thought put into them i guess.

Just look at Uraraka, or that navel laser prince.

>It's a superhero setting, base human level is higher than in real life

Nothing in the story implied this tho.
The show wanted us to believe they're normal humans who happen to have quirks, so they build around that. This held true right until Stain fight.
Aizawa did not do anything super out of the ordinary. He's a skilled fighter, but you didn't see him jumping several meters in the air or sticking a fucking sword in the wall AND standing on it.

I hate dumb fucks like you the most.

Yeah, well it is forgivable i guess but you are right. In most mangas like this, that subtlety of achievable feats gets lost after the origin story and what not. Then they just start jumping like crazy or having crazy strength and the explanation is usually "training" or something.

Holy shit it's a fucking battle shonen anime, why the fuck are you taking it seriously? Are you that autistic?

>The show wanted us to believe they're normal humans
Stain isn't a normal human thus your argument is null and void

Todoroki has been trained since he was capable to do so by his dad.

>Aizawa did not do anything super out of the ordinary.
He defeated an army of villains by himself in the first season

Stain went to hero school as a teen and then trained for another 10 years after being kicked out. Do you just love being proven wrong over and over again?

It was quite different than any other shounen in that it was very consistent. I'm just disappointed it's slowly turning into like every other shounen out there, powelevel wise.

Are you incapable of comprehending what you read? Stain is a normal human with a quirk. His quirk isn't something that allows him to do what I wrote in the OP. He shouldn't be able to move like that no matter how much he fucking trained.

>Nothing in the story implied this tho.
Actually it did. People who are out in the field are much stronger because *gasp* they trained themselves more so than regular humans

By careful positioning and combat prowess. Well, he did not really "defeat" them, more like suppressed them and he did pay the price for it.

If that's your fucking logic then Aizawa moves even better than Stain

>By careful positioning and combat prowess
He literally just charged through the crowd
>Well, he did not really "defeat" them
He did. They were left incapacitated fort he remainder of the battle and his quirk had nothing to do with that it was his combat prowess which the show does bring forth is a thing for heroes to learn.

>trained themselves more so than regular humans

There's a limit to what a human body can do.
Entire point of the show is that people have quirks, a "supernatural" part of their body.
Someone whose quirk is mind reading, shouldn't be able to break a wall with his fist, no matter how "experienced" he is. Get my point now?

>applying logic to a generic battle Shonen

Retard.

>Stain is a normal human
HE IS NOT. Just as this user pointed out he went to hero school and trained himself for 10 years before going on his crusade. That's not something a normal human would do

>There's a limit to what a human body can do.
Yeah you lost this argument already so I don;t know why you keep posting

The crowd was made out of cannon fodder. Well, it is still unrealistic that one man can defeat ten guys armed with pipes lel.
> his quirk had nothing to do with that it was his combat prowess

This is true. Even Uraraka was crazy strong against Bakugou which makes no sense, but it really is a great manga. Well,, if actual human biology was involved most of them would be dead already from sheer exertion and muscle tear.

>There's a limit to what a human body can do.
>Entire point of the show is that people have quirks, a "supernatural" part of their body.
And the main point of the show is to go beyond what your body can do hence "Plus Ultra". I wonder how you going to weasel yourself out of this one.

>Aizawa did not do anything super out of the ordinary. He's a skilled fighter, but you didn't see him jumping several meters in the air or sticking a fucking sword in the wall AND standing on it.

Yeah he just swings around lamppost to lamppost with his scarf like fucking spiderman.

You're incapable of connecting the dots it seems.

He can train himself all he wants, there's a limit to a human body.
No matter how much you train you'll never be able to jump from wall to wall while evading Todoroki's ice UNLESS you have a quirk which would allow it, but he doesn't.

>I wonder how you going to weasel yourself out of this one.
Are you the same dude from a week ago? Holy shit you're obnoxious.
Them going "beyond what a body can do" doesn't mean shit cause it should be impossible.

Anime was consistent with this logic until the Stain fight, as I said so already.

Because battle shounen writers fail to understand what exactly peak human fitness is and just write low tier superhuman agility. Stain and Eraserhead really bring down the argument that non quirk users shouldn't be heroes.

well you could claim that was his equipment supporting him and him using gravity and elasticity of the fibers to swing.

I'm not sure if OP legit retarded or baiting at this point

I only watch anime so I'm not familiar with that scene.

If manga failed to explain why he can move like that all I can do is write it off "dumb shounen crap" and move on I suppose.

Really disappointing, maybe we'll get a proper shounen with little to no asspulls in a few years.

>Get into a first battle against the big bad
>I'M GONNA GIVE IT MY ALL!!
>suffer brrain concussion

From the perspective of the writers there really is no other option but to reduce everything to willpower, even negating physical damage, or the show would go poof in several issues.

>Stain and Eraserhead really bring down the argument that non quirk users shouldn't be heroes.
Except they do have quirks dumbass, No where in the show does it state that having a quirk meant that you shouldn't actually know how to fight ? That's why Urakara is training herself in combat in the anime

If you count that as an asspull you probably shouldn't be reading shounen.

Yeah, so OP is baiting. Maybe people surviving Bakugo explosion should be asspull too?

His quirk is not that bad, compared to the average hero quirk and especially compared to the average quirk in the population. Of course from Todoroki's perspective, who is literally bred to have a top hero quirk, it kinka sucks. But for any project which allows you to plan beforehand, if he can get blood samples of the relevant people it is an extremely useful quirk, even if he didn't have his physical ability. If it weren't limited to just blood as a bodily fluid, it would be a top quirk.

Or maybe it's not REALLY a 1:1 copy of our universe and what a base human can accomplish is much more impressive, and maybe just maybe it doesn't even need to be implied because it's a fucking comic book.

You people really are fucking idiots. I never said that exact scene was an asspull.

But most certainly later in the anime/manga there will be asspulls cause show is inconsistent already. I just can't wait for Midoriya to pull something out of thin air because why not.

>Hero sucker: Stain!
>A wicked monster that relieves men of their precious semen!

>The only one that can cum inside me IS ALL MIIIGHT!!!

>You're incapable of connecting the dots it seems.
Nah you're just wrong and you can't even disporve my point given that you're relying on "Stain is a regular human" as a tactic which has already been proven false given that he isn't a regular human and now you're using "real world" logic in a manga about people who use superpowers, can survive explosions, being engulf n flames and can fire lasers out their abdomen.

Was kinda disappointed when I first read the manga and Deku gained One for All. I thought it was going to be a normie superhero that just used his mind to defeat villains.

Luckily it had other things that were good about it.

Reminder that Uraraka was able to CQC Toga while Jobber Head got stabbed.

that same claim can probably be applied to Stain's equipment (particularly his sword)

>muh consistency
All you're really upset about is someone is able to accomplish something without a sharingan am I right?

...

I think he's legit autistic. In show its stated that there's a reason Stain goes after a pro by his or herself its not like he's all powerful to anyone but three rookies.

It would be interesting to see what quirks breeding Toga and Stain would produce. Probably all blood related, but a combination of both quirks would be extremely versatile.
Endeavour eugenics program where he breeds future top heroes from captures villains when?

In prolonged fights, neither of them can defeat a good quirk user without their own quirks (both of which are about disabling).

You can definitely see how good equipment can change the battle in this series - for instance Uraraka actually doesn't have any good support equipment while Bakugou thought about strengthening his quirk.

For most characters it is nothing more than clothing which shows what they lack.

Kaminari was pretty useless before his equipment upgrade

But it is consistent
train well = become ninja

I just proved that all characters that trained well physically can obtain such a feat.

I want my strategic battle shounen MC.

I'm pretty sure toga let uraraka CQC her because her aim was just to take her blood.
Also Aizawa was caught surprised by that back flipped stabbed plus it wasn't deep. You can't call him a jobber just because he got stabbed once.

Since eraserhead has that long tentacle like scarf (how the fuck does it work?) she should've asked for some doc oc like tentacles to bring something close enough for her to touch

That certainly seems to be the case.

So why is it that All Might told Deku he can't be a hero at first? Why did he tell him to become a police officer, if everyone can move like Stain, given enough training?

It is very inconsistent and you're all pretty much defending the show cause you're fanboying at this point.

You want more asspulls?

Even the avengers couldn't stop him

Not even trying anymore

Kaminari is the most glaring example of a useless quirk turning useful. One for All is just a pure battle quirk so not much thought to be put there . But most characters still use their quirks badly.

The support group is definitely the important one - without it, most good quirks would be either power, strengthening, or your slightly weird but battle useful ones.

>defending the show cause you're fanboying at this point.

Or your argument can be flawed. I mean people who defend an anime doesn't necessarily have to be fanboys. Do you believe everyone that disagrees with you are fanboys?

>people taking OP seriously after a few post

I don't, but given some of the arguments like "Stain is not a normal human" really tends me to believe they're blind fanboys.

Everyone seems to forget that people with quirks are stronger and faster than quirkless people.

If you think Stain's bullshit, you should read the spinoff manga. Knuckleduster's explicitly stated to be quirkless but he's physically stronger than nearly every character.

Quirk humans are naturally stronger than normal humans.
Look at all the shit bakugou does do you think someone could fly around with explosions like that without breaking their arms because of the force?
Also shouji's quirk is actually only reproducing body parts on his tentacles, but he has a grip strength of 540 kg and can carry around two people on his back effortlessly eventhough his quirk itself doesn't give any physical enhancements.
So quirk humans probably have super or peak human physical capabilities on different scales.

The reason he's scary is not because of his parkour skills, it's his quirk. Just one fucking hit can disable a person which makes him almost unbeatable in 1-on-1 battles (which is all of his battles except the one he is defeated in).

If a person with the same quirkless skills as Stain fought Stain, Stain would still win because of his quirk alone.

>So quirk humans probably have super or peak human physical capabilities on different scales.
Or they just have to train their bodies extra hard to use their quirks without hurting themselves

It is possible that all of Shouji's arms are average strength but since he has six of them it adds up to 540

Why are you still giving him (you)'s?

Humans are obviously much stronger in the My Hero World, Bakugo's explosions should be ripping people to shreds but they just end up heavily bruised.

This isn't some special trait, anyone can theoretically do this in the world of My Hero, its why Deku should have been looked down on for not actually training but wanting to be a hero. Bakugo was able to chase down Deku using 5% and eventually win against him. Deku is using 5% of All Mights power and someone who had been training all his life was able to defeat him.

All Might was able to handle all of OFA when he first got it, of course his OFA was weaker then Deku's, but the difference couldn't be more then 20%-30%. If Deku had trained like he should have, he could have handled it like All Might did.

Yeah, but physical capabilities they need to have to not get hurt by their quirk is clearly above human, especially for people of some of the kids their age.

Maybe, but he can still carry two people on his back with little to no effort whatsoever.

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Way to prove you animeonlyfaggots don't have a functioning brain.

Knowing BnHA there's probably a law that says the quirkless cannot be registered heroes (for their own safety).

The entire fucking point of the thread is that I don't read the manga so I was asking if it was ever explained later.

Given everyone's replies here I can safely assume it's not explained. Show is inconsistent in power levels, I understand that now.

You're a fucking retard.

>thread shows that anyone in that series can achieve such a feat
>"this is inconsistent powerlevel bullshit!"

>I'm just disappointed it's slowly turning into like every other shounen out there, powelevel wise.
What do powerlevels have to do with Stain sticking his sword in a wall and standing on it?

He shouldn't be able to do that.
They're portraying him as much stronger than he actually should be, according to the rules of the manga/anime.

>he still tries to argue with mha kiddies
stop it already you fuck

You'd be surprised how many legitimately retarded people are out there, thinking they're smart and all, while what they actually do is flailing their poor reading comprehension

How so ?
Shigaraki in his fight against Aizawa was already superhuman

>It's another "why don't Midoriya become a quirkless hero?" argument
>Cites Eraserhead and Stain as examples
>Cited examples fight revolves around the use of their quirk
Goddamit speedwatchers

>according to the rules of the manga/anime.
What rules? Everyone has been capable of feats that would be considered superhuman in our real world outside of their quirk abilities.
Nothing in BnHA has ever suggested that sticking a sword into a wall is outrageous or unachievable.

Not to mention that none of this has anything to do with powerlevels, like I said. It was just a maneuvre that looks cool and makes sense as far as the average reader is concerned. It wasn't a sudden boost in power, or even a matter of a "stronger" fighter being treated as entirely invinvible to anyone considered weaker than him, regardless of tactics or quirk matchup.
You just don't seem to understand what powerlevels are.

Anyone who reads the manga (and with Gran Torino's talk with Izuku coming, the animeonlys too) should know that in their society freely using quirk is reserved only for people with hero license
I'm going to bet they'll just conveniently forget that after it airs

>Aizawa did not do anything super out of the ordinary
He threw multiple people 30+ feet into the air at the same time in the very first fight he was ever in. Then he had his face repeatedly used to crack concrete and walked it off within a couple months.

They already established that in the anime.

You can at least somewhat pass those off as the product being incredibly skilled.

The real bullshit is being able to straight up tank several blows to the face from someone whose quirk gives them superhuman strength.

But Shouto did the same in his fight against Izuku. His 5% power is just a sliggt boost in physical capabilities

>whose quirk gives them superhuman strength
You forgot to add it was being used in a way that isn't even as as strong as Bakugo base physical abilities without his quirk.

>caring about realism
The point of fiction is to give a big middle finger to reality and substituting real world psychics for what the author think it's best. Every argument in this thread is retarded as it is made by non author people who still clings to reality.

It uses the same plot-hole as raildex, where on top of having magical abilities, most of the characters have slightly superhuman strength and speed. So Stain is like a human x3 that trained to be an Olympic athlete, everyone else is a human x2 who trained normal.

Index is well written though compared to this shit.

>His quirk is actually quite shit.
Yeah, but Stain is more than just his quirk. He has trained himself, his mind and his body, to operate around his quirk. Even without it he'd be a great warrior, with it he's able to end a battle quickly.

Let's also not forget that until very recently his quirk was unknown, giving him a big element of surprise. No hero would actively think to avoid spilling blood around him, and once they did it was over before they even knew what's going on.

What disappoints me isn't that he's able to beat Todoroki, but that he lost to a bunch of teenagers in the end. Personally I think it'd be a lot more satisfying if the teenagers wore him down and he lost to Endeavour or Gran Torino in the end.

Quirk users are super human. This means they have super human strength, agility, and sometimes "intelligence". He apparently has a charisma about him. Or an aura of intimidation. Also, it's a fucking comic book. Go fuck yourself.

This pretty much. It's pretty clear you can train your body to be sorta superhuman. In Stain's case, his speed is outright noted to be S rank in the databook which is all sorts of bonkers.

Look at all those fucking scarves, nigga. You know he means business

Is Endeavor a phony?

^

did anyone else think he was going to be some monster looking like thing with white pale skin instead of this. he looks so much more monster like in the manga.