"Free housing. You cannot purchase apartments or houses. The government own all real estate, and give everyone rights to occupy a home, free of cost. There are no homeless people or beggary. Good work performance also give you a better home and many free gifts, and the monetary salary (if it does really exist) is not so important. Cost of living is almost ZERO."
Sure, North Koreans don't get paid that much, but they don't require much pay. They have free housing provided by the government and they get free food rations. The food rations are not fine delicacies, but they are enough to survive on without starving. Besides, look at the problems Americans have from having way to much food. Obesity, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, etc. North Korea is not the horrible shithole for the common worker that so many people make it out to be. They are not as technologically advanced, but their people have basic necessities taken care of for them. Which is something the United States cannot say.
Then pack your bags and get your ticket to your communist Paradise! Win-Win!
Oliver Cox
wtf I love communism now
Hunter Cook
Most North Koreans live in rural villages where it's still normal that the entire village pitches in to help build new buildings when needed, just like Europeans during the early Medieval ages.
So yes. They do have free housing.
Jacob Gomez
>Communism doesn't wo...
Daniel Sanders
Op in real life
Matthew Perez
Well have fun there, i hope you enjoy your stay in the gulag, your "communism" and theirs are waaaaaaaaaay other ends of the spectrum
Ethan Howard
America charges you to even own property. You lose it as soon as you can't pay your taxes
Michael Torres
"They are not as technologically advanced, but their people have basic necessities taken care of for them"
Xavier Green
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Hudson Walker
so, march 28th fire and fury? or is it a joke?
Benjamin Cook
>sure North Koreans don't have food but look at America where people eat food and get heart disease, therefore having food to eat is bad Therefore North Korea is a paradise please become alt communists now and join our discord where we go on lit and int promoting reddit r/communism
John Brown
I am not saying that NK is a paradise, but it is also not the hell that Americans make it out to be.
Joshua Jackson
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Ayden Rivera
While there is a kernel of truth to this, most North Koreans live in desperately poor conditions. Even the most privileged classes in the capital regularly experience power outages and food shortages. There are plenty of homeless people in constant search for food and shelter, mainly children, called "kotchebi" which the North Korean government denies even exist. The food situation is often complicated by the fact that the government uses any little scheme or trick it can to give the people less than what the government promises like filling dead pigs up with water and then freezing them so that they'll technically meet the minimum weight requirement for their monthly meat allowance.
North Korea is a fucked up country, it's not nearly as bad as the Western media makes it out to be, but it's still fucked up.
Liam Hall
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Jaxon Lewis
LMAO @ degenerate communist
Kevin Bell
How much longer till kim loses an foot do diabetes
Elijah Gray
>an foot >an kys nigger
Austin Miller
Hi comrade
Food is an excellent example of why capitalism doesnt work If the goal is to make money then you dont make nutritious food. You make addictive sugary fatty food that keeps the customers coming back. If you give them something that is wholesome and good, they are satisfied and dont need more. Secondly the most nutritious foods require little processing.
The very structure of the free market is unhealthy.
Gabriel White
When you advocate this kind of shit it's only proper that you move your ass there yourself and show us how great the country is, and prove such verbatim. Before you start shilling for this shit communism.
OPPSIE I almost forgot to tell you that you are subject to jail and punishment/torture if you dare criticise Kim Jong-Un, that people eat freaking grass to survive (and this has been proven). You are essentially BANNED from taking photos except of carefully prepared locations.
Do I also need to mention the many times the soldiers of north korea has opened fire at their own civilians when they try to flee?
Do you really think that people defect from North Korea and flee the country because they have a great life there? No they do not you dumb fucker, they flee because it's literally hell on earth except for the very top 1% in the goverment. Essentially the SAME which you try to fight against. But even worse.
Oh and that american student may have been a fucking idiot. But 15 years hard labour for trying to steal a sign? Is that your idea of a great society? May I also need to remind you that said student fucking died as a result? For a sign? Really nigga?
Eat a cyanide capsule and drink some bleach you disgusting commie. That you would even dare to praise such a repulsive country that tortures their own citizens is baffling.
Adam Cox
Just look at diabetes epidemic.
Find me a doctor that would advise her diabetes patient to stop drinking soda
Jacob Robinson
How much of this is true
Parker Perry
>He doesn't know f is a vowel Faggot.
Wyatt Cruz
>Good work performance also give you a better home and many free gifts
So North Korea is basically a form of state owned Capitalism?
Juan Anderson
Someone posted that it's against the law in Fatland to build houses from concrete. is this true?
Owen Reyes
Just came here to say this.
Ryder Green
North Koreans who escaped have been the ones saying how shitty it is there. They lived there YOU didn't. I'm sure as hell not going to take your word over someone who lived there.
Luke Baker
>free everything AKA 100% funded through theft >not hell
user the vowels are: x,a,e,i,o,d,p,u, and sometimes k.
Austin Cruz
Fuck off chink
Parker Wilson
>Sure the housing is actually well below sub-par but... >Sure the food is terrible but... >Sure it is still more backwater than advanced but... No thanks prefer being comfy in my bed right now on my laptop as I'm making a pizza.
Josiah Cruz
Yeah try reading it. She was actually one of the lucky ones who lived a high society life with her doctor husband. When she defected she didn't get to continue living that life in South Korea because she herself had no skills. She left North Korea not because of a bad life but to get better medical care because even though her own medical care was free in North Korea because of her husbands position it wasn't as good as the care in China. So she left for China found out she had to actually pay for her medical care and since she had no money and jobs in China didn't pay enough she went to South Korea. With no skills she could not get a good paying job to be able to afford healthcare. She signed papers renouncing her citizenship and became an asylum seeker. Most asylum seekers from North Korea are not in her situation where they are given such high class benefits.
Her problem lies in the international definition of asylum seeker and what it means when relating to North Korea. Asylum seekers are not the same as migrants or refugees. Asylum seekers are those who have applied for refugee status while residing in a foreign nation but not yet received it. While this would allow them to rescind this request in most situations the same is not true of nations like North and South Korea where they are still technically at war with one another. She is considered an asylee at risk because if she returns she could face heavy consequences from her former nation. Until she has completed her refugee process she can't repatriate. Once she completes the process and is either accepted or denied then either she can request repatriation or she will be sent back anyways based on the denial.
CNN fails to mention this point of law and why it was enacted in the first place.
Luke Rogers
I want to see this post actually come out of North Korea. This, this is just boring.
Joseph Price
Some of it.
You can now take photos of multiple locations, including rural areas. They are no longer in a famine, so they don't just eat grass or anything like that.
Some defect, some stay.
It isn't hell on earth for everyone except the 1%, you can read/look at plenty of rural villages that are clearly not in the 1% who live life that would be the equivalent to rural China. Is it as great as capitalist countries? Nowhere near, but I don't consider that to be hell on earth.
It's not a great society by any means, but being a sensationalist will cloud your ability to actually learn about it.
Jayden Baker
^This. I completely and accept the fact that capitalist countries are far more technologically advanced. I am aware that under communist rule the profit motive doesn't exist so there is far less incentive for tech advancement, but capitalist countries fail massively when it comes to providing their people with basic necessities. As a communist I am willing to let go of a lot of modern tech gizmos to ensure that basic needs to met as long as I work. I am also willing to accept much slower technological innovation than capitalist countries.
Andrew Williams
If a person works 40-50 hours a week on minimum wage in America, he or she still cannot afford the basic necessities. Even a single bedroom apartment, food, clothing, and medical care in America is not affordable on minimum wage. For North Koreans it is.
Carter Johnson
You just suck at managing a budget. You suck really bad at managing a budget.
Nolan Thompson
lolwut this is false. t. wage slave
Luis Parker
True. They also blow up liberals and subsversives. Why aren't we bros, comrade?
Ryan Brown
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Ryan Adams
DPRK is thew hero
Levi Morales
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Oliver Sullivan
To be fair, my cost of living would be much lower if I never traveled, only ate bugs and tree bark, wore the same grey clothes every day, and rode a 1975 Schwinn Stingray everywhere I went.
Jackson Mitchell
Beautiful city, and living proof that centralized economic planing can work.
Isaiah Johnson
Just gotta remove the Judaism from Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, etc. then it all works.
Cooper Cox
Rural North Koreans are not eating tree bark to survive.
Carter Lewis
I'm going to need a source on that because I know it is possible because I can definitely afford it so I know it is a possibility and this image says nothing about the study. What do the researchers mean by 'Fair Market Rent'? Do they take this data from people claiming not being able to afford it in the part of the city they want AKA overpriced crap? Does it take rural into account? There's plenty of shit to account for in this kind of crap.
Your image says absolutely nothing. It is less than worthless, it made me waste my time.
Michael Robinson
You even get free vacation time to scrounge for food when they government runs out (which is often)!
Amazing right!
Ryder Reyes
The US has over 320 million people and is $20 trillion in debt. North Korea is also JUCHE not Communist. Its more akin to a Strasserist National Socialist society, which means, oh boy get ready, no open borders, no refugees and no immigrants to feed and take care of, leaving more and resources money for the North Korean people themselves.
Circumstances are apples and oranges.
Luis Jenkins
shilly as it gets but one thing you are forgetting jong un,nkoreans are fuckin starving.by the hundreds of thousands and you can be killed by anyone official having a bad day.just admit your gay idea of communist utopia is bullshit.aint gonna leave the ground,that plane is full of shit.
Dylan Wright
>SPECIAL, VERY STRONG PUNISHMENT FOLDED OVER 1000 TIMES!!
Mason Peterson
>almost all the states where you need to work a shit ton in order to afford rent are blue states with obnoxiously high state taxes.
color me surprised.
Parker Cook
>Government owns everything Oh great, so I get to be poor forever.
Jackson Gomez
yeah ur right,they eat tree sap.
Adrian Clark
Capitalists not only provide for their own dead weight, we provide for the dead weight of our ungrateful, spiteful, idiot subhuman neighbors.
Eli Ward
Under communism, all of your time is spent working for shelter, food and everything. You will never have disposable income at all.
Also note how real estate prices are worse in left-wing areas.
Mason Cox
Dude did you know they have a bread and eggs day in cuba once a week where everyone gets free bread and eggs?
There are no fat welfare cases in Cuba, thats for sure.
Nathan Turner
As opposed to:
>working to pay rent on an apartment you dont want and all your disposable income spent on consumerist garbage you dont need
Jeremiah Cox
>all your disposable income spent on consumerist garbage you dont need
Or..... you invest your disposable income to own your own business, or a business you think will be profitable, or you donate it to a cause you believe in, instead of ceding all of that to the state, to do as it wishes without any checks on their power or decisions whatsoever.
Oliver Walker
Don't want it don't buy it. Nobody forces you to buy anything except the government. Maybe that way you could actually afford an apartment you would want.
Hudson Murphy
yeah but who is living this way?
>i dont know how consumerism brainwashing works advertisers use psychological tricks to convince you spend $$$ of their garbage. casinos keep it cold to make you stay awake and keep gambling. you know this.
Joshua Price
>I'm not responsible for my own choices. ebin
Matthew Moore
NK government decides who lives or dies. Sounds awesome!
Joseph Lee
Serious question, Why don’t you move there if you love it so much?
Robert Clark
>i liekz gommunism because i'm a hobo so dey'll gib me house!
Ayden Jenkins
>America charges you to even own property. You lose it as soon as you can't pay your taxes don't do your share in NK they shoot you in the head. When is the last time you fed a neighbor or helped build a house?
Julian Sullivan
>yeah but who is living this way? For publicly-traded companies' stock, about half of all Americans have some of their income invested.
Josiah Myers
depends on local building codes.
Juan Morris
Sadly, thanks to our state slowly consolidating and nationalizing industry, fewer and fewer Americans start their own businesses, and would rather feed the beast. This coincides with the increased poverty and disparity between rich and poor.
James Brown
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Nathaniel Smith
North Koreans get free housing, free food, free medical care, free clothing, and they earn a small bit of money each month to spend however they want. They do get disposable income.
Jack Powell
no shit.. min wage is for teenagers working part time. If you continue to work min wage as an adult, you are an idiot. boo hoo.. can't afford a Mercedes with my paper route!
Ian Garcia
What does me building a house have to do with land and property taxes? I'm explaining that you can only own an asset in America so long as you can afford to pay taxes for it
So then, is it really yours? Or are you just being allowed to use it?
Isaac Wright
>free >free >free >free When will communists pick up a book on economics? I'm not asking for advanced stuff, just read the fucking basics that's all I want.
Brody Rogers
owning is cheaper than renting.. but keep on renting.. you are smart. my mortgage is less than 300/m and I have 80 acres.
Nolan Thompson
If you work hard and follow the NK's government rules, then you advance in society. Under capitalism I no matter how hard I work I will not move up because employers profit the most when they pay their employees the least. I would bet NK has higher social mobility than USA.
Ethan Watson
tell me where you can find free land
Wyatt Martin
And I bet you dip into the precursors before you ship them to mexicali
Joshua Gray
Don't want a merc benz. I just want to be able to afford a small apartment, food, clothes, a cheap shitty car, and healthcare. Why is that so much to ask based off the minimum wage?
Aiden Lopez
>Under capitalism I no matter how hard I work I will not move up Work smart not hard. You are not becoming wealthy because you suck at making your labor worth enough to get a good pay. You clearly are also not smart enough to create a product or service people would want to buy so that you can start your own company. Keep blaming other people for your incompetence. Yeah, the system where people have the freedom choose who to give their money to is immoral. Other people having free will is immoral and you should get everything handed to you on a silver platter.
Julian Wilson
>Under capitalism I no matter how hard I work I will not move up because employers profit the most nobody moves up in the US?.. bummer dude. People can make 6 figures making UTubes but you can't do nuffin.
Connor Powell
>I just want to be able to afford a small apartment, food, clothes, a cheap shitty car, and healthcare I had that at 17 and I grew up in a trailer park. Sounds like you never took responsibility for yourself. Go sign up for a free trucking school and make 40k minimum.. or make excuses.. don't really care.
Anthony Thompson
>"FREE" (shitty) housing >"FREE" (shitty) food (lol not really) >"FREE" (shitty) medicine (from the 1920s) >"FREE" (shitty) clothing >"FREE" (shitty) meager play monies to use at government regulated fun shoppes
Move there pls memeflag. They have free internet too for shitposting.
Jose Taylor
So when communism works it is not communism?
Cooper Mitchell
>free housing >no electricity what a bargain
Parker Young
Remember in the 90's when like a third of their entire population starved to death?
Michael Wood
The fast food model is entirely about delivering food as cheaply and conveniently as possible. Healthy food is available in abundance and often doesn't cost any more than a value meal. If someone gorges themselves on "addictive sugary fatty food" it's because they aren't willing to cook their own food, nor spend an extra few dollars for a better quality burger.
Fast food is a glaring example of just how efficient capitalism is compared to communism. It demonstrates that an entirely parallel, highly efficient food system can exist simultaneously with a slower, less efficient, higher quality one. Neither precludes the other because they both have a large niche in the market.
Jack Rogers
North Korea takes care of their people unlike evil USA
I've got to warn you though, unauthorized photos smuggled out of North Korea show thin, malnourished children, grocery stores with bare shelves, with produce that is clearly spoiled and unappetizing to look at (to say the least) Adults who have managed to escape are often suffering from illnesses associated with Mal-nourishment, riddled with various parasites, and showing signs of growth deficiency. This is not speculation, it is a fact, documented with photos, videos, statements from defectors, statements from those who managed to get a look at the real North Korea. And, by the way, it's not shocking, this is a country that is not only under the thumb of a dictatorship, not only suffering from the absolute stupidity of Communist leadership, but it is also isolated, and isolated because of the idiocy of their leadership.
So, with that being said, enjoy North Korea user.
Nathaniel Rivera
for the less than 10 that have left, there are millions that have stayed
That tells us that maybe it isn't that bad of a place after all
Nicholas Ward
"Led by the United States, the international community is crippling North Korea’s economy. In August and September, the United Nations Security Council passed resolutions banning exports of coal, iron, lead, seafood and textiles and limiting the import of crude oil and refined petroleum products. The United States, Japan and South Korea have each imposed bilateral sanctions on Pyongyang to further isolate the country.
We are trying to inflict pain on the North Korean regime to stop the development of nuclear weapons and missiles. That’s understandable. But in the process, we are also punishing the most vulnerable citizens and shackling the ability of humanitarian agencies to deliver aid to them."
Wew, I guess we should reinstate slavery to give niggers their free housing back. Our bad.
Austin Gray
North Korea is getting better because little Kim is moving the market more towards capitalism. He fully intends to make his country China 2.0. Communism always fails.
Julian Flores
In the US, you can! Regardless of what our closeted socialist politicians and media members say, there is tremendous upward mobility in the United States, even under our flawed crony capitalist system. People move in and out of the 1% all the time, and the majority of people who grow up poor will move into the lower-middle, middle, or sometimes even upper middle-class or better. That's how it is supposed to be under capitalism, if you strive for greatness and try to carve out your own place within the economy, you can, so long as your are willing to work hard. The special college snowflakes won't tell you that, but you can achieve things.
I find that this is better than everyone running around being equally poor.
Robert Walker
How are people supposed to cook their own healthy meals in America when they have to work 3 minimum wage jobs 60+ hours a week to barely pay the bills. This isn't counting regular house and hygiene chores also. Lets see you work that many hours and still manage to cook healthy meals and exercise.
Aiden Long
Wakanda.
Josiah Ward
ITT: people actually believing communist propaganda.
Even what they claim their whole system is about cannot and is not being delivered in any way shape or form. That's how much that system sucks.
