Why does fascism collapse whenever it's actually tried? It has a worse track record than Marxist-Leninist states...

Why does fascism collapse whenever it's actually tried? It has a worse track record than Marxist-Leninist states, they at minimum stayed in power far longer

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SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CHINK

stop undermining the west you stupid insect cocksucker, take off your larp flag i dare you

Chile is probably the most livable country in SA because they don't have to deal with being a post-communist shithole though.

Since when was Japan fascist?

Spain just changed government.

You're a maniac. Sounds like you need a breather, log off for 30 minutes before you come back

No it doesn't.
Fascism can only be brought down from overwhelming outside force, Fascism CAN'T fail on it's own.
>Spain
>Portugal
>Chile
Did exactly what Fascism is supposed to do, safeguard the country from internal subversives till democracy can be restored.
While Communism ALWAYS fails.

Hereditary Imperialism is the same as Fascism in their feeble brains.

He is right though in the fact that Fascism is an ideology that collapses under the weight of it's own unrealistic expectations though. And fast too, compared to other forms of government.

Fascism turns into an Orwellian nightmare that breeds rebellion and civil war all on it's own, pal.

Fuck you!
I'm Portuguese and we still love Salazar.

if success rate was the only way to judge an ideology, then why is Monarchism so frowned upon outside of countries that aren't already monarchies?

The inclusion of the Kuomintang flag in this pic triggers me the fuck out. Does the guy who made this pic not know that Taiwan exists? And that it's been a much better place to live than mainland China since 1949? Fucking moronic

since when getting nuked twice means collapsing under it's own weight?
muh expansionistic policies had existed since ever and are not exclusively fascist

Fascism here was a total success. Franco turned a middle ages country into a first world power. Now we have the GDP per capita than Japan and way higher GDP per capita per hour aka productivity. Thanks Fascism!!

*We have the same gdp per capita*

cause the kikes always shut it down

Lol, Fascism DID NOT fail in any of those countries. And especially so, in Portugal, Spain, and Chile. If any of those countries was as big as the US, they'd still be fascist up to this day.

thank you Fraquitop!

fucking kek
>Fascism turns into an Orwellian nightmare
Every state does. Britain isn't fascist, it's Orwellian. US isn't fascist, it's Orwellian. These are supposedly the freest countries in the world. It's illegal to deny the fucking holocaust in some non fascist european states. But yea fascism is so totalitarian.
>breeds rebellion and civil war all on it's own
That's retarded. A single ideology doesn't breed rebellion or civil war. Opposing ideologies do. Fascism never breeds these things, sides that oppose fascism do. That said, literally ever and all states have opposing ideologies.The US had a damn civil war. It's not only fascism you just choose to only look at it when it is.

Starting a war you can't win because of 'muh bushido' is a pretty strong example of an ideology sabotaging itself.

Also the firebombings of Tokyo killed more people than the nukes combined.

>Brazil
>Fascist

The Integralistas never ruled and Vargas purged them.

>the imperialists are why the USSR failed

>Fascism failed in Portugal
Kek

>Fascism can only be brought down from overwhelming outside force, Fascism CAN'T fail on it's own.

In Portugal it was defeated by inside, not outside. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution

All the leaders were midgets. If you take away a person's individual identity, the last thing they'd want to do is worship a fucking midget.

Didn't Chile's, Spain's, and Portugal's fascistic governments peacefully transform themselves into democratic governments when they accomplished the goals they set out to achieve?

Same with Japan, where the IJA ensign is used instead of the state flag (which hasn't been changed since Japan formed in the 1800's)

Fascism is the idea of a very few people getting to dictate what is and isn't the 'standard' for societal living. This breeds a culture of extreme corruption and isolationism. Two things that will degenerate into civil conflicts large and small, regardless of outside influence.

Couple this with the fact that fascism requires constant military expansion to in order to deflate these internal pressures and you have recipe for endless war.

It's a failed ideology and no amount of 'but muh Spain or 'but muh Chile' will change that FACT.

Why don't you include the Roman Empire, or the British Empire? Or the Chinese Empire?
Anyways communism for non western-Europeans is more about hierarchy than destroy hierarchy. Chinks and Russian communists (not Jews) were seeking for a new feudal lord to rule over them, they're genetically ultra-authoritarian and hierarchical born to be slaves or slave masters.

Not really, many people died and they were fought constanly.

It's because it wasn't real fascism. Real fascism has never been tried

Portugal had a non-violent revolution, but the other two transitioned through normal legal means.

>Chile 1974-1990
Pinochet was a neoliberal kike puppet

>Communist backed
Yeah no.

That's nonsense. You are basing your opinion on Marxist propaganda.

Chile never went to war against anyone.

Spain had a civil war, send some troops to help the Germans, and then after WW2 had zero wars.

Portugal had to fight wars in their African colonies, because of US and Soviet intrusion in their affairs, otherwise they would have had no wars either.

FASCISM ROCKS! IT TAKES AN ARMY OF JEW SHEEP TO TAKE IT DOWN!

Fascism is only destroyed if people try to destroy it. I’m sure you already know this though and have nothing else to do with your time other than >troll le Sup Forums, you pathetic worm.

Many of those countries are not facist. However it is true that while facism's obsession with strong leaders is a strength it is also a weaknes as facist states almost always collapse once the original leader dies.

Chile is the most livable because they have a ton of copper. End of story.

>Starting a war you can't win because of 'muh bushido' is a pretty strong example of an ideology sabotaging itself.
sounds just like japan throughout history, the only difference this time was technology
what about you starting a war with mexico and annexed everything from Texas to California, if you lost and now the whole us territory were split between the British and Mexican empire, could you blame democracy?

>what is a king

No it doesn't you dumb nigger, it does its job and then fades out, that's why communiggers are terrified of fascism.

We followed Hitlers Nationalist philosophies in Nippon and they enjoy a quality of life unequaled in human history. Just Imagine how wonderful it could have been with McAuther instead of Ike?

Pinochet missed one.

And Venezuela has a ton of oil yet they suffer from constant shortages of basic goods.

This is true. Fascism does rely on a cult of personality, but so does communism.

Hmmm what a coincidence all those facists states reached their goals at the exact same time their leaders died.

How could you not want to give your life for this Great Man?

>having defined social standards causes your country to collapse

Like how Venezuela is livable because it has a ton of oil?

portugal was never fascist you fucking brainlet
they even banned the fascist party
>chile is fascist as well
wew its autism

Well, he was good at purging Commies at least.

>Germany
>Italy
>Japan
Brought down by (((outside forces)))
>Spain
>Portugal
Not really fascism
>China
>Chile
>Brazil
Lel wtf

So by that logic Venezuela should be a world power

I would say communism is more oligarchical in nature which is why generally ML states tend to last quite long. What surprises me is that there is no facist literature trying to address this problem.

Portugal was more of a conservative authoritarian state, than a Fascist state in a similar manner to Nazi Germany, or the Italians.

Brazil never had an Integralist government wtf
The closes to fascism we reached was during the Estado Novo under Getúlio, and it was fucking based
good ol' times
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lol wtf? there was a peaceful transition from 40 years of 'fascism' to a democracy, after said fascism made Spain the 9th global power after being totally ruined by the Civil War

>Pinochet and Franco died before the government switched
No. That and the fact they came to power through popular means makes communists reee to no end.

To you and all the other posts. The venezuelan economy is a huge clusterfuck and nobody is denying that. However I don't see how that has anything to do with chile and furthermore Norway has the almost exact same system if not even more socialist, so it's rather a spesific failiure rather than a fault in the system.

??? did imperialists invade the ussr?

That is what we McAuther implemented, Nippon is a fine example of an ethno-state run with Nationalist polices

What do you mean when you said "ML States"?

More like purging his own former allies and the clergy, whom he killed more of than commies

Norway has a system NOWHERE NEAR what Venezuela has.

Chile is the most livable because idk living between mountains automatically makes you wealthy and laborious

That’s funny. Antifa are strollin’ the streets without a care, while natsoc soys are sperging on their keyboards, and trying to order tikitorches online. Oh, and you White ethnonationalists are also shooting up schoools full of white kids. And then defending it. Strong work, there.

Franco died about a year before his government collapsed and Pinochet likely fell to ill health. I wouldn't actually call either of them facists, but I hope you're not denying that facists often if not always use cults of personalities.

The Latin American clergy was infiltrated, so that was a necessary task.

Marxist-Leninist aka. Stalinist aka. Red Facist

Fascism isn't a ideology is a fact. And it's the most common social system in humans.
All human pre-1945-1965 civilizations nations, kingdoms and tribes were fascist. Hierarchy works. Evolution would had wiped out hierarchies if it was a bad social organization, but like patriarchy hasn't been wiped out, quite the opposite: it's the almost the only form of social organization. A stupid general who takes fast decisions is better than 100 "geniuses" or technicians doing nothing but deliberating. Sounds familiar? That example is democracy, and a tip: doesn't work

Do you know anything about norway?

Got it, thank you.

Norway doesn't even have the same oil revenues that Venezuela does either.

>Bb..b..B..but that's not REAL fascism!!!

Underrated

thid
that meme needs to die

Any political system can be good, or bad, depending on the quality of life outcomes for the average person.

Not every country should be a democracy, because for some countries, due to their human development, communism will be a better system.

Eventually they will "progress" from one system to another.

The problem with the modern world is that everyone is being told that they should be living in a (((democracy))), because that is the only (((good))) system.

Brazil's Integrelism has been tried?

in the montains either you work or you die

Is NK fascism? NK is an hereditary monarchy.

Gook and Russian communists (not Jews) were seeking for a new feudal lord to rule over them, they're genetically ultra-authoritarian and hierarchical born to be slaves or slave masters.

No

but actually we have to deal with sjw and fucking niggers coming to my country.
HELP!!!!!!11

>Racism

What racism? Because of the Haitians you're letting in for some reason?

I thought Chile's demographics were pretty homogeneous.

Not yet

go fuck yourself paco. your nation is the poorest developed in europe, and your people are negroidal.

Are Integrelist still a thing? Do they have rallies?

only on the south, leaf

Lol, what kind of traditionalist are you?

Yeah it didn't fail. Fascism was a responds to Republican communists, crushed them and returned power to the Monarchy. Thats pretty successful.

>Just Imagine how wonderful it could have been with McAuther instead of Ike?
Or Patton

Nope
now only some Sup Forums-tier dudes take it seriously and try to maintain the ideology alive

literally in comic sans

you can't make this shit up

>Liberation Theology is traditionalist

I dont know much of it gonna learn Portuguese to read some books on it.

because most of those countries were defeated in war.

>Because of the Haitians you're letting in for some reason?
Because the actual ((socialist Government)) it doesn't enforce the immigration laws and allows to enter cheap labor without education (niggers), thus favoring some businessmen and the government itself, since they would not raise the minimum wage in the country.
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Because fascists usually bully people as strong or even stronger than themselves and their ideology is usually about expansion of their their and about their own people unlike communism which only bullies way smaller nations such as Afghanistan,the baltic states,poland(granted Germany did it too but it was fighting the allies as well),romania and fascist are way more let's say way more closed off than democracies and have fewer allied nations. In the times of peace they do way better than other nations. National Socialist Germany built more roads in 5 years than countries such as mine from eastern europe in over 70. It depends on how you look at it i guess

When humanity died and gave way for our new god Capital.

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